Hempy Headquarters

[TorturedSoul]

I have a couple in flower that don't give me a steady stream of outflow in the nature of peeing cherubs, but I do get runoff. My assumption has been that the roots must be massive. The plants don't appear to be in any stress, so I shake off any concern.

I can't seem to get them cleared enough to get that steady stream. Any suggestions?

Any reason why you cannot drill/punch/melt another hole (at the same level as the first!) in the other side of the container?

I hope S&WB gets the pumps figured out soon, it's been a problem for so many decades. Mississippi River water is so loaded with crap, 9.8 pH from the tap? Crazy ... I remember a "Field Trip" in grammar school (Catholic school of course ... its NO!) and the nuns took us to the water treatment plant. What an eye opener that was for a 10 year old. I still drank from the garden hose after seeing the process, but it forever marked me and always gagged a little in my mind.

If that made you gag, you should have toured a wastewater treatment plant. I was impressed by all the things (and all the critters) that deal with the biologicals. I was a lot less impressed with the fact that many, many chemicals (we have nearby chemical plants) that seemed to just pass on through. And don't even get me started about the time when the rains had been heavy for three or four days and I was told, "If you get bored playing mad scientist in the lab" (I was a night... visitor) "and come looking for me, watch your step, because two of the tanks are overflowing and you'll have to walk all the way to the back fence to stay out of the mess." This was at a location directly across the road from the river - so the overflowing sewage was entering the ecosystem. I never did find out if this was a unique thing or if it was a semi-regular occurrence. But the guy who was working nights there didn't exactly seem worried about it, so I'd guess that it happened often enough to not raise too many eyebrows.

 

[Gauge Steel]

This was at a location directly across the road from the river - so the overflowing sewage was entering the ecosystem. I never did find out if this was a unique thing or if it was a semi-regular occurrence. But the guy who was working nights there didn't exactly seem worried about it, so I'd guess that it happened often enough to not raise too many eyebrows.

No harm. Its not like a billion cows, a million goodhearted yet ignorant po folk, 1/2 million Wal-Mart and Mega Church parking lots,thousand or so illegal dumpers and tons of nitrogen based fertilizers running off from those sweet corn and watermelon field's we all love to eat in the summer time have not already added yumminess to it.

and uhmm well you know those pot growers who flush thier nutes down the toilet Hush......:icon_roll

 

[TorturedSoul]

EDIT: Sorry, that was rude of me. If someone wants to let the world go to hell in a handbasket because everyone else is doing the same, who am I to argue?

 

[Tead]

I don't think this might be considered flushing, but I do tip the buckets 45 degrees and drain the bottom before I water/feed. Sometimes very fine perlite particles come out if the perlite is brand new (I'm cheap, I reuse perlite many times over).

Sue,
Do you ever "poke the hole" before watering? Roots and fine perlite can sometimes restrict the flow IMHE.
I think Hempy (still seeking for the origin of the word relating to HydroWeed) in pure perlite is the most forgiving and easiest way to grow MJ indoors.

Tead,

Your journal is exceptional, I've read every page. big Props dude, well done and helpful to many I'm sure. Being a born and raised Yat, I had to read your journal start to finish. I lived on Crete St in 1973-1975! And I'm a retired IT guy, would love to sit,yak and burn one with you if I were still there. Two siblings still reside there, one uptown (transplant, no silver spoon) and one in Bucktown. I hope S&WB gets the pumps figured out soon, it's been a problem for so many decades. Mississippi River water is so loaded with crap, 9.8 pH from the tap? Crazy ... I remember a "Field Trip" in grammar school (Catholic school of course ... its NO!) and the nuns took us to the water treatment plant. What an eye opener that was for a 10 year old. I still drank from the garden hose after seeing the process, but it forever marked me and always gagged a little in my mind.

Cheers
Keith

Crete St.... Dats the land of the Bayougoula!
I can't imagine this neighborhood in the 70's. Coulda been a tough area.
Bucktown! Crazy Johnie's closed a few years back. I miss them greatly.
The S&WB may be on it's way out. The mayor is looking to bring in outside contractors to run it. Got a water meter cover hanging on my wall tho!
Next time ya visit the siblings, send a note... we'll go find good fried shrimp poboys!

 

[Hash Hound]

I couldn't resist squeezing a hempy into the grow room.

This is a Scotts Dark Side I was gifted.

Started a few days ago 12/12 from seed in a rockwool cube, planted in washed perlite with a teaspoon of OC+ at hole level, half tsp of Dynamite Red a few inches above and another half tsp of OC+ a few inches above that under the cube. (the dark stuff on top is mosquito dunk debris from a sip of water she got this morning)

 

[Gauge Steel]

I couldn't resist squeezing a hempy into the grow room.

This is a Scotts Dark Side I was gifted.

Started a few days ago 12/12 from seed in a rockwool cube, planted in washed perlite with a teaspoon of OC+ at hole level, half tsp of Dynamite Red a few inches above and another half tsp of OC+ a few inches above that under the cube. (the dark stuff on top is mosquito dunk debris from a sip of water she got this morning)

Welcome HashHound! Looks Clean!

 

[Skullman420]

I try to grow as energy efficient and eco friendly as possible. It's very important to me.

EDIT: Sorry, that was rude of me. If someone wants to let the world go to hell in a handbasket because everyone else is doing the same, who am I to argue?

 

[KeifKeith]

I try to grow as energy efficient and eco friendly as possible. It's very important to me.

All my vacuumed runoff gets cut with half tap water and used on the rest of the jungle of plants I grow. Most of my outdoor potted plants and some in the vegetable garden all love runoff juice! I'm the only thing that gets wasted around here!

 

[KeifKeith]

Crete St.... Dats the land of the Bayougoula!
I can't imagine this neighborhood in the 70's. Coulda been a tough area.
Bucktown! Crazy Johnie's closed a few years back. I miss them greatly.
The S&WB may be on it's way out. The mayor is looking to bring in outside contractors to run it. Got a water meter cover hanging on my wall tho!
Next time ya visit the siblings, send a note... we'll go find good fried shrimp poboys!

Tead,

I too have several S&WB irons, 3 different sizes! I knew lil Moon as a teen, and his sister less so, older than our group. Mitch ... Like who wants to be mayor of NO? Not enough money on earth to desire or be in that job.
I might be there in December to see family, if a 3 week gig passing through Biloxi and a few other casinos pans out. Good to meet ya Brah, hopefully later in person.

Keith

 

[SweetSue]

The culprit was Cal mag at 4mls per gallon I backed it off to 2.5 as per above. However I have never seen adding grow nutes to lower pH. ....

My tap water comes out the same as yours Gauge and when I add the RX Green Solutions and CaliMagic it usually drops it to around 3.8. They tell you to not worry about it unless your pH falls below 3, and it's never gone that low for me.

I still don't have much experience with bottled nutrients. RX Green Solutions takes all the work out of hempy IMO by eliminating the pH adjustment, and the plants love it.

Which reminds me.........

May I introduce Industrial Plant, my first attempt at germinating in a solo hempy.

Tonight she'll have the protection of the dome. It's not on there locked down, so it shouldn't get too hot for her.

This was crazy easy to pull off. Took this seed only two days to pop up out of the perlite. It was the last of a set of five seeds I bought over a year ago, in hopes of using the 8:1 CBD:THC to treat psoriasis. The previous four seeds all failed to germinate in soil. I may have found my new method of germinating.

 

[MagicJim]

May I introduce Industrial Plant, my first attempt at germinating in a solo hempy.

Tonight she'll have the protection of the dome. It's not on there locked down, so it shouldn't get too hot for her.

This was crazy easy to pull off. Took this seed only two days to pop up out of the perlite. It was the last of a set of five seeds I bought over a year ago, in hopes of using the 8:1 CBD:THC to treat psoriasis. The previous four seeds all failed to germinate in soil. I may have found my new method of germinating.

Amazeballz

 

[SweetSue]

Amazeballz

Thank you Jimmy. Made me smile real big. *giggle*

 

[Rang3rDang3r]

My tap water comes out the same as yours Gauge and when I add the RX Green Solutions and CaliMagic it usually drops it to around 3.8. They tell you to not worry about it unless your pH falls below 3, and it's never gone that low for me.

I still don't have much experience with bottled nutrients. RX Green Solutions takes all the work out of hempy IMO by eliminating the pH adjustment, and the plants love it.

Which reminds me.........

May I introduce Industrial Plant, my first attempt at germinating in a solo hempy.

Tonight she'll have the protection of the dome. It's not on there locked down, so it shouldn't get too hot for her.

This was crazy easy to pull off. Took this seed only two days to pop up out of the perlite. It was the last of a set of five seeds I bought over a year ago, in hopes of using the 8:1 CBD:THC to treat psoriasis. The previous four seeds all failed to germinate in soil. I may have found my new method of germinating.

one if the high cbd strains I've been wanting to try ! gonna keep an eye on this plan ...also I'm thinking of going hempy for my first grow ? ...would you recommend for a first timer ?

 

[Tead]

would you recommend for a first timer ?

Ya know... you'd think Tead would scream "Oh hell yes!" here.... but maybe not.
I mean.... if you don't make yourself familiar with soil grows, you're missing a kind of 'reference' or 'standard' if you will. Plus, soil's easy... really easy.... so easy that it's hard to screw up (tho way not impossible).
Perhaps doing a soily or two while you familiarize yourself with the plants is a better choice.
Perhaps not. One could sure make an argument for just starting in hempy.
Meh. 6 of one, 1/2doz of the other.

 

[Tead]

No harm. Its not like a billion cows, a million goodhearted yet ignorant po folk, 1/2 million Wal-Mart and Mega Church parking lots,thousand or so illegal dumpers and tons of nitrogen based fertilizers running off from those sweet corn and watermelon field's we all love to eat in the summer time have not already added yumminess to it.

and uhmm well you know those pot growers who flush thier nutes down the toilet Hush......:icon_roll

And Tead gets all his water from the very bottom of that toilet bowl.
Man.... whyamihereagain?

I couldn't resist squeezing a hempy into the grow room.

This is a Scotts Dark Side I was gifted.

Started a few days ago 12/12 from seed in a rockwool cube, planted in washed perlite with a teaspoon of OC+ at hole level, half tsp of Dynamite Red a few inches above and another half tsp of OC+ a few inches above that under the cube. (the dark stuff on top is mosquito dunk debris from a sip of water she got this morning)

So, I've been wanting to see Dynamite in action. Very nice.
Tead measured a tsp of osmo at 4g. You've got 6g of osmo going, plus the dynamite (dunno about their feeding rates). That might be a touch rich in what appears to be a 2L.

The irony of growing something in one's first hempy with the words 'Dark Slide' in it's name is not lost on Tead and may soon be appreciated by yourself as well. Fun.

Tead,

I too have several S&WB irons, 3 different sizes! I knew lil Moon as a teen, and his sister less so, older than our group. Mitch ... Like who wants to be mayor of NO? Not enough money on earth to desire or be in that job.
I might be there in December to see family, if a 3 week gig passing through Biloxi and a few other casinos pans out. Good to meet ya Brah, hopefully later in person.

Tead's porch or deck is very welcoming. It's seen a few visitors from the threads over the years, but screams for more always.

I'll share a couple of very fun local tales from a native New Orleanian buddy of mine...
Tead's buddy MrX was a fun guy. He had a collection of like 30 streetcar poles... you know... the big poles they use to move the top connections around... always mounted on the front/back of the streetcars. He had stole them from streetcars on St. Charles over his teen years. He claimed each one was from a moving streetcar.
Later in life, when Tead met him, he was working his way thru the Audubon golf course's various greens. Not with the traditional clubs. He was enjoying different young ladies on the various greens over the years. He made it to 8 before he got married... I've not queried him on his current status... now that he's hitched, that would be none of Tead's business... plus we don't really go drinkin much any more.
Side note... his father was the King of Rex just the other year... I suspect he'll be there soon enough as well.

Such a funny unusual world down here. Tead feels sorry for those that live in less spectacular places.

 

[TorturedSoul]

Ya know... you'd think Tead would scream "Oh hell yes!" here.... but maybe not.
I mean.... if you don't make yourself familiar with soil grows, you're missing a kind of 'reference' or 'standard' if you will. Plus, soil's easy... really easy.... so easy that it's hard to screw up (tho way not impossible).
Perhaps doing a soily or two while you familiarize yourself with the plants is a better choice.
Perhaps not. One could sure make an argument for just starting in hempy.
Meh. 6 of one, 1/2doz of the other.

BAH! If you don't want to start with hempy... Which is fine, although it's as simple as a pot / bucket / 2-liter / plastic cup - that you punch a hole in, down low on the side - fill with a relatively inert media, stick a plant in, and water every day or three, lol... But if you don't want to start with that, drag a big Rubbermaid tote out of the closet and empty it, go dig through the aquarium stuff in the basement for an air pump and some air stones (or better yet, a small, inexpensive aquarium power head), punch 420 holes into a Solo cup, stick a plant in it, cut a hole in the lid of the tote so that the cup sits mostly into it, and hand water the plant until the first root grows through one of the cup's holes and reaches the nutrient solution in the tote. Wham, DWC hydroponics with a reservoir large enough to grow a tree - or solidly fill an 8+ square foot scrog screen.

Not quite as simple as a hempy. But as easy to accomplish as managing to successfully hit the ground after you've already fallen off the ladder, lol. Sure, a person can screw that up (don't sleep walk into the grow room and pee in the reservoir :icon_roll ), but a 20 to 30 gallon volume of water makes a pretty good foundation for a large root mass. If done correctly, it'll help its plant survive fairly extreme temperatures for short periods of time, or less extreme - but still unsavory - ones for much longer, due to transpiration and a very oxygenated root zone.

But, again, hempy is simple and easy.

I've never done it with plants grown from seed, only clones. I find myself wondering, if I wanted to germinate and grow a bunch (well... several) of seeds, and flower/harvest them ASAP without bothering to extend the growing period for quality's and size's sake... and intended to do this in a set of 2-liter bottles... Would it be better/safer/??? to use a soil mix with a lot (maybe 50%) of perlite instead of 100% perlite? I haven't gotten around to thinking about whether or not to keep the reservoir idea yet. If I do, I'd probably go with a higher percentage of perlite than if I do not.

I'll still be doing some clones in little hempies, too, so don't break out the pitchforks and torches, lol. I realize the above breaks with the traditional hempy idea.

And Tead gets all his water from the very bottom of that toilet bowl.
Man.... whyamihereagain?

Because you like to live at or below sea level in a time of global warning? I sort of do the same thing, lol - I smoke cigarettes.

So, I've been wanting to see Dynamite in action. Very nice.

+1 . I remember seeing mention of it in the big Osmocote+ thread. (I think?)

The irony of growing something in one's first hempy with the words 'Dark Slide' in it's name is not lost on Tead and may soon be appreciated by yourself as well. Fun.

Lol. I used to congratulate new cannabis growers for taking the leap over to the dark side. But then... I realized one they that what they were actually doing by this was leaving the dark side, and joining the side of light!

Tead's porch or deck is very welcoming. It's seen a few visitors from the threads over the years, but screams for more always.

I'd like to visit one day, but you've kind of scared me with the descriptions of the heat. I think I might be part Eskimo (or more likely, it's the Russian and Northern European blood that's still running, albeit very dilutely, through my veins). Does it cool off and snow a couple... few... six inches or so in the Winter, at least? I don't mind the cold, lol; I only sweat when it's cold if I'm actually doing something.

 

[Skullman420]

The dark side! The Devil approves!

I used to congratulate new cannabis growers for taking the leap over to the dark side. But then... I realized one they that what they were actually doing by this was leaving the dark side, and joining the side of light!

 

[Tead]

I find myself wondering, if I wanted to germinate and grow a bunch (well... several) of seeds, and flower/harvest them ASAP without bothering to extend the growing period for quality's and size's sake... and intended to do this in a set of 2-liter bottles... Would it be better/safer/??? to use a soil mix with a lot (maybe 50%) of perlite instead of 100% perlite? I haven't gotten around to thinking about whether or not to keep the reservoir idea yet. If I do, I'd probably go with a higher percentage of perlite than if I do not.

I've seen folks try to mix the concepts using soil in a mix but treating it like a hydro hempy... never successfully.

I'd like to visit one day, but you've kind of scared me with the descriptions of the heat. I think I might be part Eskimo (or more likely, it's the Russian and Northern European blood that's still running, albeit very dilutely, through my veins). Does it cool off and snow a couple... few... six inches or so in the Winter, at least? I don't mind the cold, lol; I only sweat when it's cold if I'm actually doing something.

Snow?!?! Oh no.... The world stops at the mere sight of snow. Accumulations significant enough to form a small snowman are very rare... tho quite pretty in the swamplands.
Visit in the weekends before Mardi Gras. You can catch parades with much smaller crowds. Plus, cooler parades. The weather should be above 50f but below 75f. Krewe Du Vieux, Muses, Barkus..... all roll in the weekends before Mardi Gras. Plus, plane tickets and hotel rooms are cheaper.

 

[Chris Scorpio]

My tap water comes out the same as yours Gauge and when I add the RX Green Solutions and CaliMagic it usually drops it to around 3.8. They tell you to not worry about it unless your pH falls below 3, and it's never gone that low for me.

I still don't have much experience with bottled nutrients. RX Green Solutions takes all the work out of hempy IMO by eliminating the pH adjustment, and the plants love it.

Which reminds me.........

May I introduce Industrial Plant, my first attempt at germinating in a solo hempy.

Tonight she'll have the protection of the dome. It's not on there locked down, so it shouldn't get too hot for her.

This was crazy easy to pull off. Took this seed only two days to pop up out of the perlite. It was the last of a set of five seeds I bought over a year ago, in hopes of using the 8:1 CBD:THC to treat psoriasis. The previous four seeds all failed to germinate in soil. I may have found my new method of germinating.

SuperSue...did u soak the seed in water or anything prior to poping it in the perlit, I assume ya placed it in about half an inch or so

???????

 

[Hash Hound]

So, I've been wanting to see Dynamite in action. Very nice.
Tead measured a tsp of osmo at 4g. You've got 6g of osmo going, plus the dynamite (dunno about their feeding rates). That might be a touch rich in what appears to be a 2L.

The irony of growing something in one's first hempy with the words 'Dark Slide' in it's name is not lost on Tead and may soon be appreciated by yourself as well. Fun.

Not my first hempy Tead

This was my first hempy