Re: 420 Consumer Reports Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED
looking good SS, very impressed with the grow. healthiest plants i have seen in a while all they way all the way though the grow. nice work. also... i see nuggies and frost! that is makin me happy. also nice seeing how straight all the plants are growing
still liking the way the HGL is looking, just amazed how much light those LED panels are able to get inside the plants
thanks bro
Yeah, it's nice to start seeing a little frost! It's pretty amazing to me just how much sheer vegetative foliage and mass these two lights have produced at 126w and 180w.
thanks for your kind words and support RC
Nice work Sun.. I think the HGL plants are going to give you more med's from the looks of those pic's.. You seeing the same in person? The HGL plants look more dense IMO...
Yes, the HGL plants are definitely denser at this point, but it's still fairly early in bloom.
thanks dogsnova
I dunno. Last week I was liking the HGL, this week I'm liking the HSS. But I really like the buds and frosting altogether. I'm still waiting on the results. I'm between grows and looking to purchase a new grow lamp for my next crop. Waiting...waiting... Is it me or are the HGL leaves starting to curl? The HSS leaves still look nice and fat, the HGL - not so much.
Both sets of plants have some leaf curl on the side away from the light and on the lowermost branches, the HGL having more.
It's been this way through pretty much the entire grow, and it appears to simply be light-related. The leaves that get less light tend to curl.
This is where side-lighting with some CFL's or additional LED's would really shine in the absence of LST, topping, scrog, etc.
In any case, more light or shorter plants would resolve it.
thanks hydronewbie!
Pretty work! +8
Looks to me like the HGL is getting more power to the plant.
Looks that way, huh?
When I was able to raise the light and expand the coverage, it decreased the intensity, of course, but it has seemed to provide more total energy.
It was killin' to have that light at 6". Maybe over two plants, but even over two plants the size of these, I think I would have it up at least 8-10". It still seems to have enough intensity at that height.
The HSS light, with it's wide-angle, delivers it's energy very differently, so it's hard to make a direct comparison, either by eyeball or meter.
If the measure of energy delivered is how budding is going, the HGL plants are ahead *at this point*. Branches are more fully developed and there are more bud sites, but again, it' still early.
thanks obx
From the latest pics, it looks like the HGL is putting more energy into budding and the HSS is putting more energy into leafing. Should be interesting to see how things unfold in the next month if that's the case. They may end up tied in the production category, though.
That's an astute observation.
As I mentioned above, the HGL plants have put more energy into budding, while the fan leaves and petioles on the HSS plants are larger and longer.
I agree, it should be very interesting to see how things go in the next month.
thanks Bolivar
Everything is looking good and it is clear there is a much more pronounced difference and it comes the the strength of the reflected light, angle of the light leaving the fixture and/or one light meeting the plants needs better right now.
The next month and 1/2 should be very interesting.
Lilbit is just a week ahead of your girls and my other two are a week behind.
Will be interesting to watch for future closet grow.
brother and great job!
thanks MountainHigh!
appreciate your kind words and comments
Sweet, another great update... Looks like the HSS plants might have a little more frost, and more pistils, in the bud shots.
maybe you shouldn't of vegged them that extra week. How much headroom do you have left? How does the headroom compare between the two lights now?
The main top bud shots look pretty close. I'll have to double-check the headroom tonight before commenting.
In hindsight, a 4-week veg may have been better, but they weren't 12", and that's where we wanted them.
Outside of the two 30"+ and still growing beasts, the other six plants, at 22-24", are what we were shooting for.
In any case, assuming the two freaks stop anytime soon, I should have enough headroom to bloom them out.
thanks bro!
great update SS, both sets of plants look great.
Really impressed with the way you are handling this comp grow.
reps if I can.
thanks Mmmmick!
doing my best to steer this bus down the middle
Hey SS, contrary to what some people are attempting to say I think your doing an incredible job staying neutral and letting the plants do the talking. Some people say HSS,others say HGL,only you can see the true differences and IMO 420 has chosen the right man for the job. Keep up the great work
thanks 420warrior, I'm learning a lot from this comparison, and appreciate your positive energy
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Looking good
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thanks bro
I hate to say it, but i think the hgl is winning at this point. At least on the two plants you used for comparison. Does all 4 of the hgl plants look the same as this one ?? I would have bet anything that the hss would smoke the hgl, but as of now, the hgl is winning. I just can't believe the 126 is covering 4 plants !! You're a real pioneer SS, keep on doing what you're doing !! Fine job !! I'd personally like you to do another grow and grow them like you would if you was growing for production. Using lsting and topping !! To keep the panel closer to all the buds. Stay cool Bro !!
Yes, the HGL plant in the last update was a good example of how they all look at this point.
The HGL is not covering the 4-plant canopy evenly, or even completely, but does seem to be delivering enough light energy to enough area at this point.
Oh man, I'd LOVE to LST some plants under these lights
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thanks bro
