Haight Solid State vs. H.G.LED

Re: 420 Consumer Reports Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED

Ah, the thing I am learning most while doing all of this is to listen to the Mrs. Go. So I know what you mean on that part Sun! Sometimes, an outside perspective is seemingly the worst thing, but essentially the best thing.

-Go-


to paraphrase SouthernWeed:

"I prefer to think of it as an all-encompassing hobby, not an obsession"


Mrs. Sun ain't buyin' it, lol.
 
Re: 420 Consumer Reports Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED

You are doing great with all those plants, I just got caught up again.

You can definitely see differences in the lights so far.

(I forget they moved all the LED grow's to their own forum and forget to check)

:peace: SS, I just love your grow! (Science ftw)


thank you MountainHigh!

I appreciate all the positive energy you're spreading around ;).

Yeah, having the LED grows in a sub-forum has its pros and cons, but I'm glad you found it again ;).
 
Re: 420 Consumer Reports Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED

ss i noticed when you change your cam. that the hss has a lot mor blue in it. my ? is do you think this could cause the stretching

The reason the HSS tent looks so blue in that shot is because I had the color corrected for the HGL tent. If you're looking at the last update, the first pic is with the color uncorrected and gives a better idea of the difference in the spectra.

I suspect that most of the difference in how they vegged was due to the difference in how close the lights were, but I'm sure some was due purely to the different specs as far as spectrum.

thanks rrb1!
 
Re: 420 Consumer Reports Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED

My grow is the perfect example of why you should have the lights up higher during veg. I went with the 6" recommendations and it just ended up not good. They are way to bushy for the light to flower the lower buds. I cant imagine whats going to happen with 4 plants under 1 light. I would be willing to wager its going to get to crowded in there. I only have 1 plant under 1 126w light and its taking the whole footprint up.

Good luck SS. Hope to see some nice Grams per watt ratios here.
 
Re: 420 Consumer Reports Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED

Dear Setting Sun:

In the spirit of the climax of the football season, how about a half-time report complete with facts and statistics of the grow based on the first frame of this thread. I know that would take some time, but I think it would be useful to juxtapose the growth of the plants during veg versus flowering. Just an idea. :thankyou: again for all your hard work, I don't mean to add another chore. Maybe there is someone who is good at generating statistical data who is interested in this grow and would volunteer to put together a comparison table.

Best,


If there's other specific information that I could add, I would be more than glad to do so.

what sort of statistical data are you thinkin' about?
 
Re: 420 Consumer Reports Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED

I have seen multiple posts sayin "led's sure do veg well" or some derivative of that,
I say, man SS, you sure do veg well. lol. ;)

light is just one component of a healthy system, and SS has it down pat. keep up the good work bro, both of these manu's are lucky to have you put their best foot forward. You are making them both look good. . . now lets see if you can work your magic in flower. . . but i already know you will.

peace and love.
WOF ;) ;) ;)


Well, thank you bro. I like to think I had a little to do with it ;).

Actually, there have been many supportive compliments throughout the grow that have helped keep my tank fueled and my energy level up.

Your above remarks will keep me going all day ;).

The best conditions in the world won't compensate for poor technology, so the nice veg results are combination of what I put into the grow and how the lights perform, but I know you already know dat ;).

peace and love right back at you bro
 
Re: 420 Consumer Reports Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED

Total growth in height, total leaf clusters, nutes, temps, pH,; overall data snapshot. The photos themselves are worth 1,000 words and everthing is well documented. Probably too much trouble.
I guess I'm curious about data to justify a potentially significant investment in lights. Time will tell. Still, $500 is a lot of money to me but may save big bucks and prove more discreet on future grows.
 
Re: 420 Consumer Reports Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED

I'm not knocking LEDs and understand the immeasurable value of stealth but doesn't that seem kind of expensive for a such limited coverage footprint? Taking into account the amount of lights you would need for a large or even medium grow area it seems the initial investment wouldn't offset the energy savings. But I guess everything has it's strong and weak points,like CFLs being dirt cheap and cool running but offering limited coverage and low intensity. :peace:
 
Re: 420 Consumer Reports Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED

No, it's perfectly reasonable to ask for that data and I will do the best I can to supply it as completely as I can.

I'll be very up front and say that I didn't approach this grow with the intent to provide detailed statistical data and much of what I provide would be to the best of my estimation.

If you would be satisfied with that, I would be more than happy to fill in as much as possible.

There may be others who would benefit from a summary, so it's not a problem.

I think a half-time report is a good idea, but again, I didn't document too much because this is my first comparison grow and I still have a lot to learn.

thanks hydronewbie!
 
Re: 420 Consumer Reports Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED

To each their own 420warrior. You are exactly right when you say everything has it's strong and weak points... I think that is what this is all about...seeking the strong, and eliminating the weak. Soon enough...we will be rocking the best of both worlds...super strong!

-Go
 
Re: 420 Consumer Reports Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED

There may be others who would benefit from a summary, so it's not a problem.

I think a half-time report is a good idea, but again, I didn't document too much because this is my first comparison grow and I still have a lot to learn.

thanks hydronewbie![/QUOTE]

Whatever data you care to provide would be awesome. Many thanks!
 
Re: 420 Consumer Reports Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED

I'm not knocking LEDs and understand the immeasurable value of stealth but doesn't that seem kind of expensive for a such limited coverage footprint? Taking into account the amount of lights you would need for a large or even medium grow area it seems the initial investment wouldn't offset the energy savings. But I guess everything has it's strong and weak points,like CFLs being dirt cheap and cool running but offering limited coverage and low intensity. :peace:

If LEDs will produce reasonable buds, their main value to me would be a set up of three tents similar to the ones in this comparison (I'm using the Growlab GL-80). For the same wattage of my 600HPS, with staggered planting, I could produce a monthly supply of fresh medicine. My only alternative, due to the heat in the summer in Northern California, is trying to stockpile enough from a 1000w grow to get through the summer. As far as the cost of the lights goes, any investment goes a long way toward paying for itself, if your only other option is paying retail prices at the dispensaries.
 
Re: 420 Consumer Reports Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED

If LEDs will produce reasonable buds, their main value to me would be a set up of three tents similar to the ones in this comparison (I'm using the Growlab GL-80). For the same wattage of my 600HPS, with staggered planting, I could produce a monthly supply of fresh medicine. My only alternative, due to the heat in the summer in Northern California, is trying to stockpile enough from a 1000w grow to get through the summer. As far as the cost of the lights goes, any investment goes a long way toward paying for itself, if your only other option is paying retail prices at the dispensaries.

Or....you could look for a good portable AC at a yard sale. :rollit: I grow under 1000 watts in the heat of summer....AC runs 24/7. Big electric bill, but also nice buds.
 
Re: 420 Consumer Reports Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED

Or....you could look for a good portable AC at a yard sale. :rollit: I grow under 1000 watts in the heat of summer....AC runs 24/7. Big electric bill, but also nice buds.

Unfortunately, I already have two window ACs and a 900w portable and still have trouble shedding heat load in the summer as it is. My only other option for summer would be a sealed room with co2 (more expensive than an LED set up, but it would produce some fat nuggs). I can take the summer heat, having grown up here but the plants can't. Cost of electricity is not a major concern, even though Parasitic Gouge & Extort just raised top tier rates to $.47/kwh.:rollit:
 
Re: 420 Consumer Reports Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED

Anyone know if you can run LED panels off a gen without letting the smoke out? ;).

I threw my HSS on a 1200w generator, no problem.
Plugged in a space heater to overload it, no problem.
It just fired up fine on the Widow.
Don't know if it affected the color spectrum, but a couple of days will answer that (That thought didn't come to me until I was plugging it back in the tent).

Keep up the great work.
 
Re: 420 Consumer Reports Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED

day 6 bloom

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HGL

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HSS

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HGL

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HSS

The first pic is without color correction. The remainder of the pics are with the color corrected individually for each tent. I still can't get my pic labels to make the trip over here, lol.

The plants are just beautiful.

Every time I unzip the tents I'm amazed at the growth and how healthy they look.

Some are stretching a little faster and there is enough variation in height that I'm shimming the pots to keep the canopy even.

A few more hairs here and there, but nothing major yet.

I'll do my best to get the half-time summary up asap, but it looks like a busy week at work so will do what I can.

hope everyone has a great week!
 
Re: 420 Consumer Reports Competition - Haight Solid State vs. Hydro Grow LED

The carbon filters are brand new and are doing a *great* job, even though I'm venting into the garage instead of the attic, I can't smell anything.

When I took them out for the flush, however, they smelled really good. Not real strong yet, but nice and musky.

Hopefully, the filters will be up to the task when they start getting slutty ;).
 
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