Graytail's Cupwinners in High Brix Soil - 4x4 - 600W HPS - Perpetual

[Graytail]

I got into the room this morning before the lights came on, so I have a few shots with decent color.

Have I mentioned that I really like growing this strain?

 

[Any2cards]

Very nice!!!! Love the frosty white resin sheen and the JD is rediculous. Well done!!!

Peace,

Any2

 

[Steppenwolf]

Yeah. I think you sold me on growing the JD. I am impressed man. Nice job. How do you like the smoke? Ever have it tested?

Do you think vegging with CFLs causes them plants to remain so short and compact? If you had the space you could veg the last couple weeks under the HPS for a comparison. Your plants look like the explode once they hit the HPS. Pretty awesome graytail.

 

[Graytail]

Very nice!!!! Love the frosty white resin sheen and the JD is rediculous. Well done!!!

Peace,

Any2

Thanks a ton, Any2! Did I mention that I really like growing this strain? And of course, it's clearly, obviously better in Doc's high brix soil!

Yeah. I think you sold me on growing the JD. I am impressed man. Nice job. How do you like the smoke? Ever have it tested?

Do you think vegging with CFLs causes them plants to remain so short and compact? If you had the space you could veg the last couple weeks under the HPS for a comparison. Your plants look like they explode once they hit the HPS. Pretty awesome graytail.

Good question about the smoke. Lol, I really don't have much to compare it to - smoked brickweed most of my life. I still haven't managed to identify the aroma - some sort of tropical fruit, which I am not very experienced with, with a hint of berry - very strong odor. I don't have access to testing, so I only have a vague idea there, but that's easier for me to evaluate. I've grown 4 strains so far, and Jamaican Dream is the second most potent, with the Super Lemon Haze a clear winner. If my SLH is 24%, then I'd say my JD is 20%, Indian Skunk (Kerala) is 12-15% and Northern Lights is 10-12%. It's, to me, a well-balanced buzz - a warm fuzzy rush, followed by slight ringing in the ears and a soothing relaxed feeling. I suppose it lasts for 2 hours or more, but I always hit it again so I don't know. But as I said, I don't have much to compare to, yet. I do know I like it best so far. The SLH is stronger, but it has kind of an annoying first rush - disorienting - and when that wears off, you're still pretty f'ed up. Ya gotta hit the SLH kinda gingerly, but it makes a nice finish to a buzz. I start with JD and use SLH for the last couple hits.

I'm not sure yet how I feel about the way I'm vegging. The first run were autos, the second I was in a hurry so I put them into 12/12 with hardly any vegging, and now I'm spending 2 months with them in the veg room, with rather disappointing results. The 2 foot plants are kinda nice - fits my room nicely and I don't need/want yield - but if that's all I get from 2 months, I might as well toss 'em into 12/12 earlier.

So far, I'm still sold on CFLs within 2 inches of the tops, complete with the crazy tight node spacing, but I'm open to being convinced otherwise. Clearly, mine are much tighter than those from guru growers, so it's unlikely that I'm right - jus' feels proper - the plants should be developing superior root systems while all that compact growth is going on. I'm just not sure how time-efficient it is. I could try MH for veg, but that means a larger, more complicated veg area. Maybe LEDs if I feel especially wealthy one day.

 

[Doc Bud]

Excellent!

The SLH you tried wasn't high brix...correct? You'll be floored by the difference in effect with the high brix plants. That JD is something else!

 

[Light Addict]

 

[shottafire]

Beautiful graytail just beautiful. Jamaica me crazy with those shots.

 

[Graytail]

Excellent!

The SLH you tried wasn't high brix...correct? You'll be floored by the difference in effect with the high brix plants. That JD is something else!

Yes, the SLH was in mineralized soil. I'll have to wait until January to make a SLH comparison, but I'll have high brix JD in a couple weeks. That's been my main smoke, so it'll be easy to compare. But the jury is in on the growth comparison - the high brix is obviously a better growing environment, period.

And for those who don't know, I only started growing in April. I'm not an experienced grower, and I only run a 4x4 flower room, not a big operation. I just read through dozens of journals on 420 and paid attention to who had the best looking plants. For my taste, those were Doc Bud's. At that time, he was a real evangelist for high brix, and he set up this simple way to do it, so I bought a kit, et voila!

With this method, anyone can grow healthy, sticky, smelly plants without having to know what they're doing.

 

[Graytail]

Beautiful graytail just beautiful. Jamaica me crazy with those shots.

Heheh, there's a strain called Jamaican Me Crazy. ::

 

[stealthgrow]

Very Nice Graytail, The JD is coated in trichs, looks amazing. Great job!

 

[Graytail]

I'm running low on Jamaican Dream, so I'm fooling around with the Kerala and SLH. It's pretty good mixed about 50/50. They both have a disorienting first buzz, and the SLH gives it some punch. Yeah, that'll work for now.

I've decided to sacrifice all the mineralized Kerala for kief. I have about 5 ounces, so I should get a substantial pile. Then I'm gonna put it in a small jar, and use that to coat buds - drop a bud in there, shake it around, pull it out and 'moke it. Yeah. ::

 

[Crawdaddy]

Kief is great, my g/f been using the dry ice method from my outdoor harvest, works great.

If you want check out my new grow, Crawdaddy's Fall 2013 TopLED COB Grow, I have a Hawaiian Snow in there.

 

[Graytail]

Very Nice Graytail, The JD is coated in trichs, looks amazing. Great job!

Thanks stealth!

Kief is great, my g/f been using the dry ice method from my outdoor harvest, works great.

If you want check out my new grow, Crawdaddy's Fall 2013 TopLED COB Grow, I have a Hawaiian Snow in there.

Thanks for the link, Crawdaddy. Your Hawaiian still looks better than mine. Yours is all civilized, like a nice well-behaved cannabis plant. Mine likes to grow leaves when it's supposed to be just growing flowers. There are actually calyxes under all those leaves, really there are.

 

[Steppenwolf]

Thanks for the smoke report on the JD. It makes me really want to grow it now. I think you are doing pretty damn well vegging under CFL's. If you had more space I would consider an upgrade to MH veg. If you don't, run with what you got! Its working!

 

[Graytail]

Update:

Things are getting a little more exciting here. The grow has been kinda stalled for the past few weeks - I got behind in veg - nothing new going into flower, but yesterday I put the White Panther and JD3 into 12/12. WP is 10.5 inches and JD3 is 12.5 inches. I hope I get some stretch.

White Panther - 62 Days - brix 11/12

JD3 - 54 Days - brix 14/16

The flowering girls, JD1&2 and Hawaiian Snow, are looking on track to be finished in 2 weeks, but I'll probably take one of the JDs earlier and let the HS go another week. I did take a lower branch from each for an early test, and they'll be dry in a couple days. I can't wait to try some HS. The JDs are getting too heavy for their branches and are very stickyyyyy. Kerala3 is still looking good, too.

Hawaiian Snow - 142 Days old - 126 Days 12/12 - 92 since pistils - brix 15/17

Kerala3 - 137 Days - 71 days 12/12 - 52 since pistils - brix 14/15

JD1 - 113 Days - 53 Days 12/12 - 45 days since pistils - brix 12/12

JD2 - 113 Days - 53 Days 12/12 - 345 days since pistils - brix 12/13

In veg, I have the three new girls, Panama, Tangerine Dream and Wild Thailand. I'll pot Panama later today - she's a vigorous youngster, already 6 inches tall - grew 2.5 inches this week. The other two will get their pots next week. TD was growing too fast, so I topped her as a seedling at the 4th node. That slowed her down for a few days, and she's now putting that energy into 6 tops instead of one. Wild Thai is looking nicely well-mannered. Caramelo is still weird, but getting better. I stripped half of the spongy lettuce leaves and that allowed the lower branches to develop better.

Caramelo - 60 days old - brix 14/15

Panama - 31 Days

Tangerine Dream - 30 Days

Wild Thailand - 28 Days

The cuts are looking great. The two WPs should start showing roots any day, and the SLHs haven't shown any sign of weakness, despite being cut from an early reveg mother.

And the lonely Utopia Haze seedling is doing well.

 

[PeeJay]

Nice update, Greytail! I'm excited to see how well your High-Brix White Panther does compared to my two somewhat neglected ones do. Mine are about six weeks and been on 12/12 for ~ a week ten days. They're both throwing out pistils. Here's a picture of them on the greenhouse floor growing straight up. Mine seem to have much broader fan leaves:

 

[B A R]

Great update Graytail.

 

[Graytail]

Great update Graytail.

Thanks, BAR, good to see ya!

(and thanks for the reps!)

 

[Graytail]

Nice update, Greytail! I'm excited to see how well your High-Brix White Panther does compared to my two somewhat neglected ones do. Mine are about six weeks and been on 12/12 for ~ a week ten days. They're both throwing out pistils. Here's a picture of them on the greenhouse floor growing straight up. Mine seem to have much broader fan leaves:

I went back and found an earlier pic of mine - you're right. Let's wait to see how they look when they develop more. Often, you'll see really broad early leaves, and then they'll narrow as the plant matures. Doc says high brix soils bring out the sativa side of a hybrid, too - might be that.

 

[PeeJay]

That earlier pic of the WP looks more familiar, for sure. I suspect that mine just wanted to grow straight up due to the greenhouse time. I have a few more fem White Panther seeds on hand to play with later. Seeing your nice bush has made them more valuable to me.

I've been following the high-brix talk and have heard that about sativaishness. I've been mighty tempted to make a couple of bins of high-brix medium, but I have 40+ gallons of 25% FFOF, 65% sunshine mix and 10% perlite to use up before I start spending more of the food budget for me on food and medium for the plants.