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Orange Hill Special is dried and jarred and yielded 55 grams, 1.94 ounces over 159 days = 0.346 grams per day.

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It has no particular orange taste or aroma - that's what I grew it for. :straightface: Oh well. I'll give it some time in the jar before I post a review.

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Hopefully time in the jar will bring out those characteristics. You gonna try to leave it for three months to let the flavors really set? I couldn't do that. :laughtwo: I'd be testing it every week to find out just when it made the subtle shifts. That was so much fun to do. I should have kept better notes though. :straightface:

Congratulations Graytail. :thumb: We'll wait patiently for the quality report. :battingeyelashes:
 
Mornin my brotha....have you heard? Another great grower gone! One of my Gang...he is my friend and brotha , and i'm a lil bitter about it Gray.
BTW cheers on your little mini harvest pal....too bad about the "no orange taste". Maybe as SS said ...time in the jars ? Let us know if any of the advertised taste makes it out will ya. Cheers Gray.
 
Bummer you aren't getting the taste you were looking for, but it looks like some nice smoke!
 
Orange was a sweet looking plant and you got some great nugs from her. I hope the orange comes through in smell and taste after being jarred. I did find that when I washed my harvest last week the smell changed and so far the Pineapple Chunks smell like cookies a little bit. :tokin: But there is NO Pineapple anywhere in either smell or taste. :scratchinghead:
 
Gray, that Orange sure looks tasty. Hopefully a deep prolonged cure will bring out some of the hoped for flavor. Tranquilgreen the same thing happened to me a few weeks ago, I harvested a small Bubblelicious grow, washed the buds and noticed a significant change in the aroma, not a bad change, just different than the before smell. Although, neither smell is what I thought it was going to be. I have it in a cure and I am trying to be patient and let it cure thoroughly before I break into it, but you know how that goes! :tokin:
 
I've been neglecting my terpenes. :straightface:

I've had a few plants that were spectacular, but as a rule I haven't been getting especially aromatic produce. I listen to Conradino for instance - he's very careful about his terpenes - and I wonder how much is my own carelessness, how much is genetics ... how much is method. I've had a couple experiences with the chop/wash/dry that didn't go well at all, where the strong aroma and taste went away. There's some legitimate concern about the wash - there's room for error - but it certainly isn't consistent in my experience. The wash doesn't usually affect terpenes for me.

I'm not especially careful about the dry either. It usually takes 3-4 days at 60% RH to dry enough to jar. Then I cut the buds off the stems, jar it with a Boveda and we're done. I'm usually in that jar, pulling buds to smoke, daily for a week or two until I tire of it and then it sits and does a long cure. I usually don't see much change after the first couple weeks, and during that time, some of the flavor and aroma will come back, or will change a bit - like blueberry to cherry. But I really haven't gone back and sampled the jars that have stayed unopened for several months. The only one I did recently was Panama and I was surprised at the improvement, so I should probably start going back and sampling everything, huh? :laughtwo:

I usually have a new fun strain to try, so I don't think about revisiting the old ones. :cheesygrinsmiley: This OHS though, never had any orange odor. It's a Skunk#1 cross, so I wonder if it might not benefit from some saltier soil ... :hmmm:
 
Just for the sake of discussion, what could possibly go wrong with the wash?

And I think any reason to revisit those long-lost jars of goodness is a good reason. Just sayin'. :cheesygrinsmiley:
 
Graytail said:
Orange Hill Special is dried and jarred and yielded 55 grams, 1.94 ounces over 159 days = 0.346 grams per day.

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It has no particular orange taste or aroma - that's what I grew it for. :straightface: Oh well. I'll give it some time in the jar before I post a review.

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Gorgeous Buds Graytail!!!!! wow!!! NOTM entry?
 
GT have you given any thought to the Bovedas taking away some of the aroma? I have always thought that herb in my Cvault with Bovedas was much less aromatic after being inside the vault versus before going in.
 
SweetSue said:
Just for the sake of discussion, what could possibly go wrong with the wash?

And I think any reason to revisit those long-lost jars of goodness is a good reason. Just sayin'. :cheesygrinsmiley:
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I have some concern about the hot water in my case - might volatilize some terpenes ...

And we're using acid/base in the water - might produce a pH issue ...

I don't know. But washing isn't totally benign. I do think that any disruption from the wash can be restored with a proper cure, though.

I wonder if a loss could be caused by washing ruptured resin off the surface ... not really a loss, but it'd be clearly noticed. :hmmmm:
 
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GT have you given any thought to the Bovedas taking away some of the aroma? I have always thought that herb in my Cvault with Bovedas was much less aromatic after being inside the vault versus before going in.
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It may be the CVault. There's another grower here who wasn't pleased with his, compared to glass canning jars. Was it Smokey? :hmmmm:

I think my Bovedas help. I even restored humidity to a dried out quart jar by putting three well-soaked ones in there. The buds came right back within a few days. :slide:
 
Icemud said:
Gorgeous Buds Graytail!!!!! wow!!! NOTM entry?
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LOL, can't say it didn't cross my mind ... :cheesygrinsmiley:

But it'd just be a vanity entry :laughtwo: ... that's not a winner. I can do better.

But thanks! :thumb:
 
I have never used Bovedas with glass canning jars. I do use glass canning jars but only for short term storage. That being said I am not unhappy in any way with my Cvault/Boveda combo. I just THINK (no proof) that something in that combination absorbs a lot of the odor.
 
Graytail said:
I've been neglecting my terpenes. :straightface:

I've had a few plants that were spectacular, but as a rule I haven't been getting especially aromatic produce. I listen to Conradino for instance - he's very careful about his terpenes - and I wonder how much is my own carelessness, how much is genetics ... how much is method. I've had a couple experiences with the chop/wash/dry that didn't go well at all, where the strong aroma and taste went away. There's some legitimate concern about the wash - there's room for error - but it certainly isn't consistent in my experience. The wash doesn't usually affect terpenes for me.

I'm not especially careful about the dry either. It usually takes 3-4 days at 60% RH to dry enough to jar. Then I cut the buds off the stems, jar it with a Boveda and we're done. I'm usually in that jar, pulling buds to smoke, daily for a week or two until I tire of it and then it sits and does a long cure. I usually don't see much change after the first couple weeks, and during that time, some of the flavor and aroma will come back, or will change a bit - like blueberry to cherry. But I really haven't gone back and sampled the jars that have stayed unopened for several months. The only one I did recently was Panama and I was surprised at the improvement, so I should probably start going back and sampling everything, huh? :laughtwo:

I usually have a new fun strain to try, so I don't think about revisiting the old ones. :cheesygrinsmiley: This OHS though, never had any orange odor. It's a Skunk#1 cross, so I wonder if it might not benefit from some saltier soil ... :hmmm:
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Gray, what are your temps in the drying room? Maybe they are too high. Some terpenes break down already in the high 70s. I don't wash anymore cause I don't like how my buds start to smell afterwards even if taste is smoother.
 
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I should probably start going back and sampling everything, huh?
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It's a dirty job, but somebody has to do it. :cheesygrinsmiley:

With a bud wash, I go with room temp water only. The hot and cold method doesn't sound good to me. Warm water would be more likely to dissolve/remove stuff we want. Cold water could make trich's brittle and allow them to break off. If is wasn't for all the stinky foliars used with the kit, I don't know that I'd wash my buds - maybe a quick dip only.

I've noticed the Boveda packs seem to mute the smell. That makes sense to me since humid produce doesn't seem as volatile as the dry stuff. No idea if that lower volatility impacts smoking/vaping flavor.
 
Hey Gray....glad you brought up about the hot water! Now's a good time for me to jump in here with my 2. You all know how I like my Bubblehash, right. Well in my quest for perfect Bubble over the yrs. using the bags and getting to know how resin reacts to diff. temps and conditions... I've always wondered why on Earth would someone want to heat up their trichs with scalding hot water!! Makes NO sense to me AT ALL! When you do this , two things happen to the gland heads...I know this for sure as I've observed via scope many times. The waxy coating that protects the actual head melts ....remember inside that head is resin....what does resin do when you apply heat? It goes all melty and liquidy. This has to affect the stalked trichomes in a negative way. I think ,if I was to start doing that wash thing...I would NOT use hot water....just my opinion on this.I wouldn't use really cold water either as this will cause the heads to easily break of the stalk just as in the Bubblehash making process. I would stick to room temp. water with hardly any agitation to avoid knocking off gland heads. Like Gray said too....does using HOT water affect taste and terpines....I bet it does! Cheers eh....this is just my 2 , so nobody get all pissed at my opinion...thanks eh.
 
duggan said:
Hey Gray....glad you brought up about the hot water! Now's a good time for me to jump in here with my 2. You all know how I like my Bubblehash, right. Well in my quest for perfect Bubble over the yrs. using the bags and getting to know how resin reacts to diff. temps and conditions... I've always wondered why on Earth would someone want to heat up their trichs with scalding hot water!! Makes NO sense to me AT ALL! When you do this , two things happen to the gland heads...I know this for sure as I've observed via scope many times. The waxy coating that protects the actual head melts ....remember inside that head is resin....what does resin do when you apply heat? It goes all melty and liquidy. This has to affect the stalked trichomes in a negative way. I think ,if I was to start doing that wash thing...I would NOT use hot water....just my opinion on this.I wouldn't use really cold water either as this will cause the heads to easily break of the stalk just as in the Bubblehash making process. I would stick to room temp. water with hardly any agitation to avoid knocking off gland heads. Like Gray said too....does using HOT water affect taste and terpines....I bet it does! Cheers eh....this is just my 2 , so nobody get all pissed at my opinion...thanks eh.
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What the fuck!?

j/k I was worried about the hot water too, but happy with my results. I was also worried about the oils in lemon juice, as they are largely what differentiates it from water.

Not only did my hot bucket get super dirty, it also got sticky, so its imaginable that theres resin in it.

I'd strongly consider all room temp with only baking soda no lemon.
 
Yes ...I'm glad some of you are listening to this chit chat about using scalding hot water to wash your precious buds. I'de bet , as well BK your right ...there was some resin in your water....how can there not be...you guys are using HOT water! Resin does not behave well when heated up...remember this. Too cold will also have a negative affect, as it will cause the trichs to become stiff and brittle allowing gland heads to break off the stalk ....right into your nice bucket of scalding hot water and not your jar ,where it should be going. Yes , I can't believe nobody has questioned this scalding hot water issue before now! I know Doc. and a bunch of us here on the mag. wash their buds using this method and all appears to be OK, with taste ,smoothness and all of that but for me.....i'l NEVER soak my buds in HOT water, especially with baking soda and lemon juice to boot! I know ....I know, some of you will wonder "what the fuck" but I had to get this out of my system.Cheers Gang!
 
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