Graytail's 3rd: 4x4, HiBrix, Latest LED Tech, Lots Of Light!

Wow.

Incredible. Just wow.

Good washing will help the PM, as you know. Best of luck there.... Can you still oil it or something?

Great update, I'll end my might here..Wow man
 
Great update Graytail. :high-five:

Good luck killing the PM. :rip:

When you get your Sulfur Burner would you show pictures of the "When, Where and How's". Thank you Sir you are an inspiration. :Namaste:
 
Damn such nice plants too what a shame, GL hope you can get them nursed back!
 
Bummer about the PM. Beautiful update!
Careful with the sulfur. That should take care of PM and white flies. :thumb:
 
GT-
Do you use either/both foliars all the way to the end of your grows?
 
Major PITA said:
GT-
Do you use either/both foliars all the way to the end of your grows?
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Good question! I find that I get neglectful once they get into full bloom, but yes, I spray 'em all the way through to harvest. I try to do each of them at least once every 10 days. I had to suspend them last week, though, because I just didn't want to risk any more humidity. As it turns out ... din' matter. I really like Brix during the fast growth stages and then I ease off as new foliar growth slows. And a regular shot of DeStress keeps the roots hooked up.
 
Graytail said:
Good question! I find that I get neglectful once they get into full bloom, but yes, I spray 'em all the way through to harvest. I try to do each of them at least once every 10 days. I had to suspend them last week, though, because I just didn't want to risk any more humidity. As it turns out ... din' matter. I really like Brix during the fast growth stages and then I ease off as new foliar growth slows. And a regular shot of DeStress keeps the roots hooked up.
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:thanks:
 
Incidently, I said neem oil, I meant thyme - dunno why I said neem. :lot-o-toke:

I'm using Sierra Natural Sciences 244 for the PM, which is thyme extracts.

Active Ingredients


Thyme Oil - 4%

Polyglyceryl Oleate - 0.5%


Cod Liver Oil - 0.2%

Lauric Acid - 0.15%

 
That made more sense.
 
Who knows what evil lurks in the depths of Corporate offices...or political lobbyist for that matter.
 
LOL, I decided to post, late at night, while really stoned, which is something a seasoned interwebster oughta know not to do ...

:slide:

I was thinking about how I wish I understood the electrochemistry of the soil. I can find out, but it seems terribly tedious and I finally realized that I just don't have a context for understanding it. I need some analogy, some paradigm, to start from. I get the plumbing part of plants - how the fluids are passed up and down the plant through vessels much like we have. And the cool part is that the whole works runs from suction - from evaporation in the leaves. :cheesygrinsmiley: But I don't really get what's in those vessels. I know that sugars and hormones are passed from place to place, but when we get to what PeeJay was talking about I just have no context to attach the facts to. It makes sense to me, but it doesn't stick. I have a chemistry background, so I know what a nitrate and a nitrite are, etc, phosphates and sulfates, etc, but so what? I need to know how plant tissue is built, what ingredients are required, how and when they're delivered. So ... I had a puff or two and ruminated ... what exactly are these ingredients and how do they affect the final product? ... how are minerals involved? - they're part of the structural tissue, I know ... :hmmm:

And for some reason, baking came to mind. :laughtwo: The final product depends on the ingredients you start with, and their quality. Yeast will get you one thing, baking powder will get you another and eggs will get you something different, as will as none of them at all. It's always been obvious that we have a higher proportion of chefs and bakers in the cannabis community. I never really knew that, because, y'know, people don't talk about it, but it's good to see. Taste is one of our senses and that's one of the things the herb is good at - sensory expansion - same reason musicians indulge in weed.

See, this is the problem with posting when you're ripped. I had a point ... :hmmmm: ... :blunt:

... nope, apparently, as it turns out, I didn't. :cheesygrinsmiley: But heck, this time I'll leave it here for your amusement. :laughtwo: :partyboy:

... gotta go google me some mineral/soil electrochemistry stuff ...
 
I understand where you come from though. Some of it sticks, most of it doesn't, and every time I work at getting closer to catching it it jumbles in my brain. Maybe I haven't smoked enough?

I keep waiting for you to figure it out so you can explain it to me. :laughtwo:

This is crazy. It's 2:45 and I'm just now taking my first hit. WTH???
 
What PeeJay was talking about where?

Surface electrochemistry is hard!

I've worked with some chemical processes involving adhesion. The one piece of the puzzle is that processes involving surfaces are done in batches, rather than continuously.

  1. create the conditions for adhesion to the surface
  2. complete the reaction
  3. change conditions so that product is released
  4. remove product

This creates a problem in a refinery, because this is a batch operation and all the rest of the units run continuously. To get around this, they make a sequence of batch units work together, and time things so that product from unit 2 comes on stream just as unit 1 is finishing. With enough units, a steady stream of product is availabe to interface with the continuous process units.

Imagine a toy, pneumatic race car set. The cars are powered by air pressure, supplied by balloons. To propel the car, the balloon is attached to a valve and the air is released

Now imagine a troop of bonobo chimpanzees, and their job is to fill balloons and keep the car running smoothly.

Hmmm, that didn't explain any thing about surface chemistry. At least you got to imagine some funny chimps.

Told ya surface electrochemistry was hard.
 
Damn you Graytail. You have me studying botany at 3 AM.
 
Rascio said:
What PeeJay was talking about wherte?

Surface electrochemistry is hard!

I've worked with some chemical processes involving adhesion. The one piece of the puzzle is that processes involving surfaces are done in batches, rather than continuously.

  1. create the conditions for adhesion to the surface
  2. complete the reaction
  3. change conditions so that product is released
  4. remove product

This creates a problem in a refinery, because this is a batch operation and all the rest of the units run continuously. To get around this, they make a sequence of batch units work together, and time things so that product from unit 2 comes on stream just as unit 1 is finishing. With enough units, a steady stream of product is availabe to interface with the continuous process units.

Imagine a toy, pneumatic race car set. The cars are powered by air pressure, supplied by balloons. To propel the car, the balloon is attached to a valve and the air is released

Now imagine a troop of bonobo chimpanzees, and their job is to fill balloons and keep the car running smoothly.

Hmmm, that didn't explain any thing about surface chemistry. At least you got to imagine some funny chimps.

Told ya surface electrochemistry was hard.
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You know I adore you, right? :laughtwo: you are absolutely hysterical. :rofl:

I'm watching a neat video on roots. I figured Graytail could try to understand the chemistry part, which just makes my brain cry. I'll focus on just what the roots do here. Wow! Is there ever a lot to learn. This video is basic stuff. Start easy and work up. :laughtwo:

This compulsion to understand is wonderful and all, but why does it always hit at bedtime?
 
Well ... I think some stuff sunk in tonight. :cheesygrinsmiley:

The minerals we talk about most, Calcium, Magnesium, Potassium, and Sodium, are cations and are stuck to the soil like static electricity and clothing. The roots release H+ ions which can get in between and pop the mineral ion off. Then the root hairs snatch up the mineral ion. Mycos do the same thing. The roots take it in, either by presenting a molecule that can attach to the mineral ion and pass it into the cell, or by presenting a cell that has a lower concentration of the mineral which cause it to diffuse into the cell. Once the mineral is in the root, it can be carried into the plants along with the water.

Cation Exchange Capacity is how many sites the soil has for cations to adhere (adsorb) to. Humus has the highest capacity followed by vermiculite with several others lower.

So, if I want to load my soil with cations before I introduce the drench, I want a soil with higher humus to create more sites and a recent drench of cations to load them. Energy is Calcium and Nitrogen - Transplant is Nitrogen, Phosphorous and Potassium. :hmmm: Both? :hmmmm:
 
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