Graytail's 3rd: 4x4, HiBrix, Latest LED Tech, Lots Of Light!

Geez, just the selection by your chair eh? Be right over. :battingeyelashes:

Well earned Graytail. Well deserved. I'm looking forward to street trash weed being ancient history. Right now let's see if I can manage to make just one of my plants look anything like one of yours. Well, we know I won't be satisfied with just one, but that's a start. :laughtwo:
 
Man everything looks so good GT! Even the one you are disappointed in. Well I think we have a different pheno of tikal for sure, 33" and it's done stretching...lucky you.
I got a couple questions for ya: what size pots do you flower in?
I think you said you've grown utopia haze before, I have some beans and trying to come up with the next round, so what are your thoughts on that, say compared to an ACE strain?
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Graytail said:
I keep a half dozen strains at hand and sorta rotate around, with Carnival as the base buzz. Tonight I started with some Nexus, polished off the last of some Buddha Haze laced with some Carnival ... had a Panama bud onhand for a couple days ... I have an urge for something a little fruity so I'll probably nip a little bud of Destroyer ...

It's such a delicious secret, having a huge variety of strains to smoke, most of them top-shelf enough to put experienced smokers away. :yahoo: :eyebrowsmile: It's hard to wrap my head around ... two years ago I was smoking whatever brickweed I could get.
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Tell me about it :thumb: I've got fourteen different things here to choose from I feel like Thurston Howell the third!
 
You have some Utopia Haze, Neiko? Nice!

Yeah, I really like UH. :Love: It's an inbred Brazilian landrace strain with a great "spiritual" sativa high. The primary pheno is a bit of a bitch to grow, all fluffy and messy, but everything it produces is smokable, leaves and all. :cheesygrinsmiley: There's one pheno that's spectacular - the one I drew on my first grow - but I haven't run across it again. I have a couple more beans though, and I'll try it again soon.

The produce is great, but it's all sativa. :laughtwo: Be forewarned if you grow it.

I flower in 6 gallon square plastic pots.
 
A clinker? Yeah - what a disappointment ... NOT!
Most growers would love to have that kind of trouble. :cheesygrinsmiley:
 
I was looking over my records from my first year of growing and ran across a fun metric ...

I kept pretty good records, so I know that I produced 2096 grams, and the annual cost was roughly $2000, so it cost me a buck a gram. :cheesygrinsmiley:

Of course, I can't smoke it all ... :lot-o-toke: ... but that was about what I spent a year on brickweed - $2000. :slide:

So the whole hobby is like, free n stuff. :laughtwo:
 
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Graytail said:
I was looking over my records from my first year of growing and ran across a fun metric ...

I kept pretty good records, so I know that I produced 2096 grams, and the annual cost was roughly $2000, so it cost me a buck a gram. :cheesygrinsmiley:

Of course, I can't smoke it all ... :lot-o-toke: ... but that was about what I spent a year on brickweed - $2000. :slide:

So the whole hobby is like, free n stuff. :laughtwo:
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I was just thinking about this today. I was no shit spending 600-800 a month at the dispensaries before I started my grow :icon_roll:

In just one year I have been able to use the savings to pay for all my gear and have been able to stash away about 5k extra into my retirement funds and continue to dump the money I used to spend on bud into it each month. Not to mention that now I have the hobby I have been dreaming of for 20 years and bud thats actually worth the time it takes to smoke :rofl:

Plants look fantastic GT :high-five:
 
What a wonderful way to look at it. We spent waaaay more than $2000 annually keeping Dale supplied. It was running on average $25 a day, and when I calculate that out it scares the shit out of me. What I could have saved us over 35 years......

Mine is beyond free, even with all the set up cost and cost of running the show.

Lights are on. Let me do these foliars and try to get some sleep.
 
Graytail said:
I was looking over my records from my first year of growing and ran across a fun metric ...

I kept pretty good records, so I know that I produced 2096 grams, and the annual cost was roughly $2000, so it cost me a buck a gram. :cheesygrinsmiley:

Of course, I can't smoke it all ... :lot-o-toke: ... but that was about what I spent a year on brickweed - $2000. :slide:

So the whole hobby is like, free n stuff. :laughtwo:
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Awesome stats. Unlike you we have not kept good records over our 3 years of growing. But we did do a thorough analyses before making the investment of the room. It is definitely a no brainer once you do all that. Well, its a brainer lol if you do all the calculations :)
 
We were just discussing this and another thing or two came up. One, we have more weed than initially predicted so its even better in that regard. Two, my girl doesn't have to worry about constraints as to when she wants to get high. She used to spend about $160 a month etc but now she not only spends less she never has to think about running out or when she can afford the next supply. It is really freeing for her in that regard :Love: Its fun to grow and keeps her happy and calm, that's what I get out of it :)
 
xtrchessreal said:
We were just discussing this and another thing or two came up. One, we have more weed than initially predicted so its even better in that regard. Two, my girl doesn't have to worry about constraints as to when she wants to get high. She used to spend about $160 a month etc but now she not only spends less she never has to think about running out or when she can afford the next supply. It is really freeing for her in that regard :Love: Its fun to grow and keeps her happy and calm, that's what I get out of it :)
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You wonderfully sweet man. What a lucky woman. :love2: I remember that feeling of knowing you weren't going to run out. I had it briefly after my first harvest, and as we know, life got in the way. When I get it back next time it's going to be for good. :slide:
 
I'd love to be independent of the street.

After squeaking out a good harvest from a flowering that looked like they might die any day, I felt I had enough bud for the 6 months until next harvest- which strecthed into 11 months and a LOT of street weed (good strains at below market pricing - I'm not complaining!)

I look at the rooms today and the next 4 months look pretty good - but - I'm not really breathing freely until I have a 1/2 lb curing in jars.
 
SmokeyMcFly said:
I was just thinking about this today. I was no shit spending 600-800 a month at the dispensaries before I started my grow :icon_roll:

In just one year I have been able to use the savings to pay for all my gear and have been able to stash away about 5k extra into my retirement funds and continue to dump the money I used to spend on bud into it each month. Not to mention that now I have the hobby I have been dreaming of for 20 years and bud thats actually worth the time it takes to smoke :rofl:
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And it must feel especially great lately - you're turning out some seriously killer weed. Apparently, you're pretty good at this new hobby. :laughtwo: :headbang:


xtrchessreal said:
We were just discussing this and another thing or two came up. One, we have more weed than initially predicted so its even better in that regard. Two, my girl doesn't have to worry about constraints as to when she wants to get high. She used to spend about $160 a month etc but now she not only spends less she never has to think about running out or when she can afford the next supply. It is really freeing for her in that regard :Love: Its fun to grow and keeps her happy and calm, that's what I get out of it :)
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The wife and I soon noticed the same thing. First, it's different to know that you'll never have to be frugal about it again. :cheesygrinsmiley: And then, you realize that you can't even buy this stuff, it's so fresh and good.


SweetSue said:
You wonderfully sweet man. What a lucky woman. :love2: I remember that feeling of knowing you weren't going to run out. I had it briefly after my first harvest, and as we know, life got in the way. When I get it back next time it's going to be for good. :slide:
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Radogast said:
I'd love to be independent of the street.

After squeaking out a good harvest from a flowering that looked like they might die any day, I felt I had enough bud for the 6 months until next harvest- which strecthed into 11 months and a LOT of street weed (good strains at below market pricing - I'm not complaining!)

I look at the rooms today and the next 4 months look pretty good - but - I'm not really breathing freely until I have a 1/2 lb curing in jars.
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That's the beauty of a perpetual. I don't like having to wait 5 months for a harvest, no matter how good it's gonna be. I'm just at the end of doing just that, and I don't like it. :cheesygrinsmiley: I like having 2-3 harvests a month - always something new and fresh, y'know? I do like the way Ziggy is doing it, and I might dedicate a portion of my room to some bloom-from-seed plants next year. It's a great way to get constant variety.
 
Quality over quantity and on a low cost is pretty hard to beat. In Italy indoor bud is unsmokable, it's just garbage. Everybody smokes low grade Moroccan hash instead that won't get me high even if I put a gram in a joint or pack a bowl. What I grow and smoke is so far from street reality that people cannot believe what they just had when I pass them a joint :blunt: I'm still wondering though how my bud would compare to high shelf dispensary smoke in Colorado or Cali, but I don't have the way to verify it :blunt:
 
conradino23 said:
Quality over quantity and on a low cost is pretty hard to beat. In Italy indoor bud is unsmokable, it's just garbage. Everybody smokes low grade Moroccan hash instead that won't get me high even if I put a gram in a joint or pack a bowl. What I grow and smoke is so far from street reality that people cannot believe what they just had when I pass them a joint :blunt: I'm still wondering though how my bud would compare to high shelf dispensary smoke in Colorado or Cali, but I don't have the way to verify it :blunt:
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I'm happy to help here.
 
Graytail said:
I was looking over my records from my first year of growing and ran across a fun metric ...

I kept pretty good records, so I know that I produced 2096 grams, and the annual cost was roughly $2000, so it cost me a buck a gram. :cheesygrinsmiley:

Of course, I can't smoke it all ... :lot-o-toke: ... but that was about what I spent a year on brickweed - $2000. :slide:

So the whole hobby is like, free n stuff. :laughtwo:
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There isn't a day that goes by I don't think about what you said here. I wish I had the glass-is-half-full attitude most of you do, but I realize now how bad folks took me for my money. I'll quit before I buy from somebody again. The crap I toss in my kief tumbler looks better than some of the supposedly good $hit I've bought over the years..... :straightface:

Think little engine that could! You CAN smoke it all! You can do it, you can do it, you can do it, CHOO CHOO!!!!! :thumb:
 
Graytail said:
That's the beauty of a perpetual. I don't like having to wait 5 months for a harvest, no matter how good it's gonna be. I'm just at the end of doing just that, and I don't like it. :cheesygrinsmiley: I like having 2-3 harvests a month - always something new and fresh, y'know? I do like the way Ziggy is doing it, and I might dedicate a portion of my room to some bloom-from-seed plants next year. It's a great way to get constant variety.
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I totally love the frequent small harvests of a perpetual grow. I had planned harvesting 3-4 girls 6 weeks apart. I am moving towards 1 plant every few weeks :)

With a perpetual, unless you want to be a home chemistry lab taking copious notes every day, it seems you can choose between nutritious soil or straight to harvest (auto flower style) sea of green. Bottle feeding in a perpetual is just too confusing for my approach to life. I think Ziggy is doing both nutrients in soil and SOG.

I just don't see you, with your beautifully shaped plants, adopting an SOG approach until you are tired of being 'hands on.'
 
Radogast said:
I totally love the frequent small harvests of a perpetual grow. I had planned harvesting 3-4 girls 6 weeks apart. I am moving towards 1 plant every few weeks :)

With a perpetual, unless you want to be a home chemistry lab taking copious notes every day, it seems you can choose between nutritious soil or straight to harvest (auto flower style) sea of green. Bottle feeding in a perpetual is just too confusing for my approach to life. I think Ziggy is doing both nutrients in soil and SOG.

I just don't see you, with your beautifully shaped plants, adopting an SOG approach until you are tired of being 'hands on.'
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I can see it Rad. The draw of variety is powerful and it's not as difficult as it may appear. Ziggy's just using the Kit in an adapted form. I wish Graytail would step into this arena. When I think of what that brain and talent could bring to this table I get all tingly. Hear that Graytail? Keep considering it. Please. :battingeyelashes:
 
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