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SmokeyMcFly
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Haha I just dug this pic up for my thread.
Start with a reveg and then just keep the roots restricted and you should have some killer little MJ bonsai moms. I used to make bonsai trees for a nursery I worked at as a kid, they imported those fake ones you see in the mall until I talked them into letting me make our own for much cheaper. Nothing like creating a fun job for yourself, was much better than the mostly clean up work I was doing up till then
Only thing really different is that MJ grows so fast that instead of needing to repot every couple years you will need to do it every couple months or so but its not hard at all. Pull it out, hack off half the roots or so and repot
Start with a reveg and then just keep the roots restricted and you should have some killer little MJ bonsai moms. I used to make bonsai trees for a nursery I worked at as a kid, they imported those fake ones you see in the mall until I talked them into letting me make our own for much cheaper. Nothing like creating a fun job for yourself, was much better than the mostly clean up work I was doing up till then
Only thing really different is that MJ grows so fast that instead of needing to repot every couple years you will need to do it every couple months or so but its not hard at all. Pull it out, hack off half the roots or so and repot
I've grown Dr Greenthumb's C99 before and liked it. The seeds are pricey as Hell, though.
Dale plans to do this for me. The potential here is amazing, eh? If the mothers can be maintained over decades like this..... Wow! Just wow.
Haha I just dug this pic up for my thread.
Start with a reveg and then just keep the roots restricted and you should have some killer little MJ bonsai moms. I used to make bonsai trees for a nursery I worked at as a kid, they imported those fake ones you see in the mall until I talked them into letting me make our own for much cheaper. Nothing like creating a fun job for yourself, was much better than the mostly clean up work I was doing up till then
Only thing really different is that MJ grows so fast that instead of needing to repot every couple years you will need to do it every couple months or so but its not hard at all. Pull it out, hack off half the roots or so and repot
Excellent Smokey. Thanks. So if we have any questions we can call on you?
SmokeyMcFly
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Well i'm no mr Miyagi but I will do my best absolutely, maybe I could be considered a Daniel-son 
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Honestly if you're trying to save room and esp if plant count is an issue I think a supermom with several strains grafted on would be a better option but your kinda putting all your eggs in one basket with that approach and if that plant ever got sick and died so would all your strains at once. The engineer in me likes redundancy and this would be the opposite of that
Honestly if you're trying to save room and esp if plant count is an issue I think a supermom with several strains grafted on would be a better option but your kinda putting all your eggs in one basket with that approach and if that plant ever got sick and died so would all your strains at once. The engineer in me likes redundancy and this would be the opposite of that
I don't remember who this was supposed to for...but my ACE Panama was pretty pale. She might be N sensitive, or I inadvertently hit her N limit early in bloom, and she still stayed pale. Nice buds though. GT, I recall that SWD was the tiniest seed I've ever planted, and she was a biggun.
CareStaker, thank you!...that was for me.
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I was rereading my journal and came across this post, and I think it deserves more discussion.
First, I think we're talking about the same mechanism, when I say bacteria and you say fungi. My understanding is that the myco fungi are strictly for the roots themselves. The fungus grows on the surface of fine roots and sends out its own tendrils, which makes the roots far more efficient with a whole bunch more surface area for absorbing nutrients. The roots exude various forms of sugars depending on the plants needs, and bacteria in the area use those sugars to dissolve minerals and provide them in a form the roots, and the fungi, can use. Different bacteria are stimulated by different sugars. I just did some research on root exudates and you're right, there are also fungi that use them. I overlooked your point about using it for breeding science. Interesting.
Also, as far as I can tell, you're also right about plants reducing their exudates when they get nutrients directly. They become "lazy" and adjust to getting nutrients without exudates. So, they'd be strains that didn't produce the full range or full strength of exudates, handicapped so to speak, unable to fully thrive on their own. I'm not sure what my judgement is on landraces vs highly bred strains. I find myself more interested in the landraces and IBLs because I like a pure sativa buzz and it takes so little indica to ruin it for me. From my experience, purer strains aren't "better". For me, they're a sort of touchmark. I can know from whence this or that particular effect comes. I want to know what a true Thai buzz is like.
I want a pure Oaxacan or Highland Columbian. I now know, for instance, what a Brazilian is like. I've grown several simple strains including an IBL, and they all had a certain something in common.But the same thing should apply to the indicas.
The Brasil Amazonia really interested me for that precise reason. I thought, hey, if I'm gonna grow an indica for my own tastes, why not try something a little more exotic and novel than an Afghan? Any of several Kushes would probably be more potent and easier to grow, but I'd like to know what a true Amazonian indica is like.So ... breeding ... hmm ... If you cross a landrace indica with a highly bred production indica, the result should be a plant that does better in organic soil. But does it hamper the production part? ... I don't know. It's something to look into for sure.
My brief research on root exudates and their reaction to direct nutrients didn't yield a lot, but I did run across a couple good articles.
An excerpt from "Teaming With Microbes" ...
Pacific Horticulture Society | Plants Are in Control
A serious kickass scientific treatise on exudates, that I'm gonna have to read a few times before it sticks, I think ...
Maximizing root/rhizosphere efficiency to improve crop productivity and nutrient use efficiency in intensive agriculture of China
Thank you so much for digging those links up Greytail. Something new to explore. This has been swirling round in my brain since Rascio first posted his thoughts. What an interesting discussion.
Thank you too Rascio.
Thank you too Rascio.
I planted three more Buddha Haze crosses today - x Nexus, x Utopia Haze and x Destroyer.
The Utopia Haze cross has really tiny seeds. Do any of you have experience with seed size? I did a little quick research and it's definitely strain-related, but I didn't see much about which sorts of phenos are represented by small seeds. Neither the Buddha or the Utopia seeds were this small, but all the crossed ones are. The buds were fully mature. Here are the four crosses I got from Buddha Haze. Destroyer and Carnival on top, Nexus and Utopia Haze on the bottom.
Morning Graytail, hey I was wondering if you have seen the video of how to tell the sex of a cannabis seed? If those are regular seeds I am hoping you would test this theory, I will on the next planting, anyway here is the link if you haven't seen it:
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I've seen a reference to this before - I think it was the original book maybe ... ... but I chalked it up to another one of those indicators that aren't reliable enough to count on. But this guy did pretty well! It's just that if it were reliable, everyone would be using it ... no?
So, my first reaction was "well, these are fems crossed with fems, so I can't help." But I decided to take a pic of mine to see what we could see, and voila, 7 of 8 have that perfect volcano end.
A closer look at the 4 on the left ... the second one is the only one that doesn't look perfect.
And the 4 on the right ...
So yeah! The next time I start regulars, I'm going to use this method!
... but I chalked it up to another one of those indicators that aren't reliable enough to count on. But this guy did pretty well! It's just that if it were reliable, everyone would be using it ... no?So, my first reaction was "well, these are fems crossed with fems, so I can't help." But I decided to take a pic of mine to see what we could see, and voila, 7 of 8 have that perfect volcano end.
A closer look at the 4 on the left ... the second one is the only one that doesn't look perfect.
And the 4 on the right ...
So yeah! The next time I start regulars, I'm going to use this method!
^ Seems too good/easy to be true. ^
I thought the same thing when I watched it. Then I pulled out my bag seeds and regular strains and went looking. I was surprised at how easily the "female" seeds stood out. Sort through a hundred seeds and you begin to think maybe there's something to it. I have all of mine sorted, so we shall see.
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I agree.But Neiko's idea is great - let's start trying it and see what happens. I was surprised to see so many of my seeds with that perfect little volcano divot.
I'm looking forward to the test results. 
This would be awesome if it turns out to be anywhere near as accurate as the video.
This would be awesome if it turns out to be anywhere near as accurate as the video.
Greytail, I'm enjoying the links. I really need to get that book.
I've seen a reference to this before - I think it was the original book maybe ...
So, my first reaction was "well, these are fems crossed with fems, so I can't help." But I decided to take a pic of mine to see what we could see, and voila, 7 of 8 have that perfect volcano end.
A closer look at the 4 on the left ... the second one is the only one that doesn't look perfect.
And the 4 on the right ...
So yeah! The next time I start regulars, I'm going to use this method!
heck if it increases your chances of a female, why not try it? I wonder if the seed banks use it..
