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Hey I copied this reciepe from sweet sues page. It is supposed to make a decarbed cooking oil. For any that are interested :)
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I'm going to retype if for you gramps so you have it as well of youre interested :)
 
UA...you help yourself to whatever you want. I'll double up at the store from now on myself. Can't be running out of them! :thumb:

And now... For the news. We have a baby girl! She hasn't even got her first leaves up yet, but we see the little stem coming up from the soil. Well... At least Kelley does. .
As soon as it is worth it, we will take some pics of her for you guys. In the meantime, here's some of Emma and Elsa for your opinions and thoughts.

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Therma - Thanks for helping out. Unfortunately, there is nothing on that picture that describes the decarbing process. And that is a cooking oil, is different from dosing oil, is different from vaping oil. We have to back up and find out what Grandpa is doing before we can start publishing recipe's for him.
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Therma - Thanks for helping out. Unfortunately, there is nothing on that picture that describes the decarbing process. And that is a cooking oil, is different from dosing oil, is different from vaping oil. We have to back up and find out what Grandpa is doing before we can start publishing recipe's for him.
Thank you kindly - heart
Correct. Sorry, it is not for the vape or tincture oil but for edibles. The reciepe naturally decarbs the meds as she explains in the screen shot I meant to post, where it explains the entire process. I'm happy to share if you are interested gramps, if you were interested about the other oils I know g2h helped Santana out and has a great process! Best wishes.
 
Correct. Sorry, it is not for the vape or tincture oil but for edibles. The reciepe naturally decarbs the meds as she explains in the screen shot I meant to post, where it explains the entire process. I'm happy to share if you are interested gramps, if you were interested about the other oils I know g2h helped Santana out and has a great process! Best wishes.

Hey for sure, if Grandpa wants to do cooking oil, I would love to defer to you. Thanks for that.
 
GH...we are trying to create oil to the vaped through a cartridge, and also dosing oil or creating balms and such as that.
I know about thedicarb process, but I know very few details about it. I have quite honestly, been spending the vast majority of my time researching and learning growing. This process news was so simple, that we went ahead and tried it. What we did was... place the herb mixture into little muffin tins. Then we covered it with olive oil. We placed it in the oven at 225 degrees Fahrenheit, and left it there for about 20 minutes. We then strained the oil to get the rest of the vegetable matter out. We've been used that oil all by itself as a topical muscle pain reliever. That is my experience with making any kind of oil. I'm also interested in creating dabbing waxes, if there is a way to do it without using the dangerous butane and things.
 
GH...we are trying to create oil to the vaped through a cartridge, and also dosing oil or creating balms and such as that.
I know about thedicarb process, but I know very few details about it. I have quite honestly, been spending the vast majority of my time researching and learning growing. This process news was so simple, that we went ahead and tried it. What we did was... place the herb mixture into little muffin tins. Then we covered it with olive oil. We placed it in the oven at 225 degrees Fahrenheit, and left it there for about 20 minutes. We then strained the oil to get the rest of the vegetable matter out. We've been used that oil all by itself as a topical muscle pain reliever. That is my experience with making any kind of oil. I'm also interested in creating dabbing waxes, if there is a way to do it without using the dangerous butane and things.
Unfortunately, the butane can be done safely but is very costly and involves quite extensive knowledge of thermodynamics and access to a closed loop system. I think solventless concentrates may be something to look into. Safer, yet still requires some expense for rosen press. It uses no flammable solvents (butane, propane etc) hence the solventless title ;). I know people who have been successful with a hair straightener and parchment paper. Although I would suggest against that lol. Do you know any good vape reiepes g2h I'm very interested if you do please share!!
 
I'm going to answer your reply by addressing you points made here okay Grandpa.

Dab waxes over my head, I will let someone else chime in for that. A completely different process.

Awesome so back to my original posting about Dosing EVOO, you do need to decarb your botanicals before you can do your oil infusion. Now there is the possibility that you could decarb your herb over extensive oil watching time. I guess what I'm saying is that there are too many recipe's out there, you have to go with what you can do and what works for you.

You still have to do the decarb process for balms, creams, edibles etc. Technically, your vaporizer decarbs your herb. Obviously you are using that decarbed herb and putting it in your oil, which is 100% correct, that is what you’re feeling.

I would imagine you just mix this oil into your creams, I haven't made creams or balms, but once you have the decarb process down, you can do anything. I will let someone else chime in.

You can continue to infuse herbs the way you are doing, but I'm sure it's just little bits at a time but it's very edible, mmm. You can keep doing your process until we find out which process is BEST for you, if you want. There is nothing worse than complicating the process that is working for you, we just need to increase that potency for you.

Also, when you use trim for your oil that hasn't been vaporized/decarbed, you will only feel a fraction of what you could. But you still get wonderful THCa which is a compound that does help inflammation.

I am happy to say, you are almost RIGHT on track Grandpa.

The only recommendation is that you must decarb your herb before your oil infusion and MAYBE update your oil process. Your research has not failed you at all. Just so you know, there are other ways to infuse oil by stove top, oven, MB2 machine if you get a chance to research those methods. I will do more research for infusing oil in the oven. You can also do it by crock pot as well. Whatever method you want to do, I will get you specific instructions to help you.

I can’t possibly write it ALL out, but it really all depends on how much you want to make and what is SAFE and EASY to make for you and dear Kelley. I’m happy you are seeing result with your experiments so far.

Really you are further along in this short amount of time.

Decarboxylation –

Takes your THCa and converts to THC - "110 °C (230 F) for 110 min. Most preferably the decarboxylation step is conducted at temperatures and for times which ensure at least 97% conversion of the acid cannabinoids to their neutral form, whilst ensuring thermal degradation of THC to CBN is less than 5%."

Do you want step by step instructions?

Also, how are you dosing? Using dried herb for Vape? Drops of oil for dosing.

Life is what you make of it and who you grow it with. ;) My pleasure
 
Hi Grandpa,

In the future, it would be great to hear why you are dosing, what are you wanting to achieve through oil and creams. Because there are so many facets, it will take a while to synthesize all the information specific for you. Especially what strains you could be targeting, but I don't want to overwhelm the process. So that is why we fix your current process, then open up to more possibilities. I hope you don't mind my turtle pace sometimes...;)
 
GH...glad to hear that we're at least on the right track. So if I understand correctly. The Botanicals we have already vaporized is technically already to use for Infusion. In the case of the, for example, shake...it needs to be dicarbed placing it in a 220 degree oven for 10 minutes before being put into the oil. Hope I got that right. If possible, and I hate to ask because you're doing so much already, just a simple and safe way to make oils that can be vaporized in a cartridge or tank, and I think we now have the oil for the lotions and balms taking care of if I got that right above. My sincere thanks to you for all of this!
 
GH...here is what we are treating.

Kelley:
Arthritis
Knee replacement and hand and wrist joint surgery
Anxiety
Depression
Diverticular Disease

Me:
Chronic back pain
Diabetes
Depression
Anything to assist with Cardiac and Pulmonary systems.

Is that enough for you? LOL
 
GH...glad to hear that we're at least on the right track. So if I understand correctly. The Botanicals we have already vaporized is technically already to use for Infusion. In the case of the, for example, shake...it needs to be dicarbed placing it in a 220 degree oven for 10 minutes before being put into the oil. Hope I got that right. If possible, and I hate to ask because you're doing so much already, just a simple and safe way to make oils that can be vaporized in a cartridge or tank, and I think we now have the oil for the lotions and balms taking care of if I got that right above. My sincere thanks to you for all of this!

Do some research on decarb times based on the heat....I know its dependent on the time. For example and please understand I am just making up random numbers here....you could do it in the oven at 120 degrees for 90 minutes or you can do it at 225 degrees for 35 minutes (Again, those aren't real times or temps, just hypotheticals to show how the higher the heat the shorter the times needed).
 
Thanks heard 240 for 90 mins or so with tin foil under tray and grind bud fine . Then let cool put in fridge an hr only then continue with whatever you left using it fir gramps
 
GH...glad to hear that we're at least on the right track. So if I understand correctly. The Botanicals we have already vaporized is technically already to use for Infusion. In the case of the, for example, shake...it needs to be dicarbed placing it in a 220 degree oven for 10 minutes before being put into the oil. Hope I got that right. If possible, and I hate to ask because you're doing so much already, just a simple and safe way to make oils that can be vaporized in a cartridge or tank, and I think we now have the oil for the lotions and balms taking care of if I got that right above. My sincere thanks to you for all of this!

Hi Grandpa, YES you are understanding correctly!

you mistakenly copied the wrong time, please allow me to recopy here, I make that mistake all the time. ;)
The temp/time SweetSue and I have used for decarb is "110 °C (230 F) for 110 min."

You're very welcome, I'll be back with more information for you.
 
Thanks heard 240 for 90 mins or so with tin foil under tray and grind bud fine . Then let cool put in fridge an hr only then continue with whatever you left using it fir gramps

Hi Grandpa, Please do not grind the bud fine as you will disturb a great number of trichomes/terpenes that Grandpa needs. It can be broken down by hand gently into a crumble, in order to keep it in tact for medical oil purposes.

Also please don't put your decarbed herb back into the fridge, you don't want any condensation on your decarbed herb when you add it to oil, gosh that won't be entirely safe, you can leave it out to room temperature but recommended you use your decarbed herb after it's ready. You want the herb to soak up oil not water.

I have already written out a decarb process I used, please allow me to post it before you try anything else. Also, I am doing other research for you in the meantime. You can pick and choose what info you want to follow, like I said, everyone has an answer even if they haven't made their own oil because it's such a valuable 420 resource. I just want to keep things potent and safe!:Love:
 
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