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Have you got a current grow journal to follow?
Glookies, Echo Thrive, Monster Crop
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No, I haven’t got a current journal. I did post one on the last grow.
I may start one on this grow.
Sounds like we have the same organic living soil philosophy.
Guys I know that use hydro and nutes do get slightly better yield than I do, but mine ALWAYS tastes better. Lol
Glookies has an unusual taste. I’ll be interested to see how you describe it.
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Yes Barneys have said it's a must try! Mint lime and diesel will certainly pack a punch that's for sure! I already stink anytime touch the leaves. Smelt to die for when I defoliated the first time round!
It’s potent for sure. They claim up to 26% thc. I had mine tested ( legal state, testing is $40) and mine came back at 19.1%
As to the taste, it’s different. I can’t really describe it, but it isn’t lime, mint or diesel. Lol
Almost a “blue” taste like Grandaddy purps. It’s interesting and unusual.
The stuff I’m smoking now has a good 6 month cure, and it’s starting to get a sweet, candy like flavor.
It doesn’t put out a ton of odor in flower either, which is nice if ya got neighbors. Lol
Bit of a pain to manicure. The buds pop lots of sugar leaves.
It’s very resinous. We made diamonds and sauce out of the last grow and the yield was surprisingly good.
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Week 10 day 63
Sooo bit of a mixed session today the main girls are doing great and starting to get there stretch on and forming some nice bud sights on the way. Unfortunately I'm really running out of room and it's all becoming a little too cramped for my liking I really want to defoliate again it's just getting far far too bushy and shading way too much. I have loads of leaves over lapping aswell which I dont like. I removed a couple of fan leaves creating shade on other collars and I watered again only 2 litres per plant I think the 4 ltrs on friday was a little too much for them but you have to try these things out. I only gave them the usual biowetter, calmag, kataroots, seaweed and ignition today no teas today.
Not so good on the clones side of things I found two had died and only 4 had fully sent roots off the others I'm not sure what are happening with. I maybe forced to start from seed again and drop the clones. Which would be a horrible defeat!
My head wont stop nagging at me that these plants need another trim! I have possibly tried too much in the little space and I am now well and truly over crowded. A.serious defol is gunna have to happen.
Sooo bit of a mixed session today the main girls are doing great and starting to get there stretch on and forming some nice bud sights on the way. Unfortunately I'm really running out of room and it's all becoming a little too cramped for my liking I really want to defoliate again it's just getting far far too bushy and shading way too much. I have loads of leaves over lapping aswell which I dont like. I removed a couple of fan leaves creating shade on other collars and I watered again only 2 litres per plant I think the 4 ltrs on friday was a little too much for them but you have to try these things out. I only gave them the usual biowetter, calmag, kataroots, seaweed and ignition today no teas today.
Not so good on the clones side of things I found two had died and only 4 had fully sent roots off the others I'm not sure what are happening with. I maybe forced to start from seed again and drop the clones. Which would be a horrible defeat!
My head wont stop nagging at me that these plants need another trim! I have possibly tried too much in the little space and I am now well and truly over crowded. A.serious defol is gunna have to happen.
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There will be no sacrifice! I will get rid of anything that's lower that can be used to power up the plants on top. I still have 2 weeks left of stretch so fingers crossed they pull there finger out. The thicker it stays the harder I will defol I'm feeling. At the end of this week it will be end of week 3 from 12/12 switch but I count one of those weeks as adjustment. So I'm just starting 2nd week of flower now. I will see what she looks like at the end of this week and take it from there.
Lol. You’ll be fine. Be patient. It takes all of ten weeks to finish
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I don't mind that too much and I dont mind if they take a little breather when I defoliate I just wanna get some light in there Haha. I'm happy at how strong they have all been though it's very exciting watching them develop for sure!
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Week 10 day 65.
Didn't get a chance yesterday to really get some good photos so today popped in and did my best although slightly difficult being under hps.
I have noticed the stretch has really kicked in now on the right hand side of the tent, where as the 5 plants on the left just dont seem bothered at all and staying put. The set up is identical the only thing that is different is the extraction filter sits on that side. Has anyone ever come across this or is this just coincidence?
I have also noticed the leaf stems are going a little red and purple on most the plants so I'll be upping the calmag slightly apart from that the leaves are looking super healthy!
I also removed a handful of fan leaves today. It shouldn't induce stress but get some more top nugs into full light. Anyway here are some pics.
Didn't get a chance yesterday to really get some good photos so today popped in and did my best although slightly difficult being under hps.
I have noticed the stretch has really kicked in now on the right hand side of the tent, where as the 5 plants on the left just dont seem bothered at all and staying put. The set up is identical the only thing that is different is the extraction filter sits on that side. Has anyone ever come across this or is this just coincidence?
I have also noticed the leaf stems are going a little red and purple on most the plants so I'll be upping the calmag slightly apart from that the leaves are looking super healthy!
I also removed a handful of fan leaves today. It shouldn't induce stress but get some more top nugs into full light. Anyway here are some pics.
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look healthy! The only thing I can think of for the difference in amount of stretch would be a slightly warmer night temp in one side.
The less difference between day and night temp, the less stretch you get.
That said, I can’t imagine the temp could be that different from one side to the other.
My Glookies always shows some purple in the stems as flowering progresses. As long as the leaves aren’t showing cal mag problems, you’ll be fine. But it is a cal mag pig. I use cal mag till they’re almost done.
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Hmmm you might be onto something there, although my heater is in the tent and is angled over to that side so if anything during the night that side of the tent should stay warmer. But even then there would only be a slight bit of difference.
The plants that aren't stretching literally look like they are being directly affected by the extraction it's so weird. Like if I drew a 2ft radius around the extraction anything in that area hasn't stretched.
My intake that's only on with lights on sits in the middle of the tent pushing air against the front doors of the tent to then deflect back onto the plants. So that's pretty even.
The one plant that's in the middle that's doing nothing fast at all! I've never seen the leaves like it. Almost darker in green smaller and alot more shiny than most almost like a camellia leaf. Any suggestions.
Ah that's good info about the pinking was thinking how that is even possible Haha!
Theses plants are from seed, correct?
The most like cause for the difference in growth is that they are “different plants”.
When I grew Glookies from seed, I got one
sativa leaning plant ( noticeably different in leaf structure, amount of stretch, Bud structure and finish time).
I got 4 indica learners, but even they were all different to a degree.
It’s one reason clones are a much easier grow from a consistency standpoint.
Lots of guys I know hate growing from seed. They all cite “too time consuming”.
What they’re actually referring to is the process of finding the best phenotype or genotype to keep.
I rather enjoy the process. Nor does it cost me “time” as far as my production goes. I’ve always got something in the flower tent.
We get 12 plants in Michigan. I only flower 4 at a time. That gives me 8 in veg.
The thing is that the number of plants in flower isn’t what determines yield.
Your yield potential is more related to your
light footprint and intensity.
The average 1000 watt hps or big LED has a 4x4 effective footprint. 4 plants vegged up bigger and and scrogged will pretty much yield the same as 12 little ones grown in a “sea of green”.
It’s all preference. There’s really no “right” or “wrong” way to grow.
I grow for the fun of it, not for “profit”.
Lots of guys grow to make money.
Now if your goal is “cash crop” you can select fast maturing indica strains and get an extra crop or two a year.
Around here, those guys always have 12 in flower and never veg anything. Being a legal state, they just go get 12 new “teenagers” after they harvest and their back to flowering.
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I get that 100%. Its just weird. 3 /10 plants that are all behaving similar and opposite the others and they sit directly under the filter is a tad weird. I'm gunna move the filter to a different location and see if there is a difference.
My grow is all about the quality pushing the plants to there full potential of course that includes weight and final yield but quality over quantity. I have no way to have a flowering and veg tent I just dont have the space and no need to turn that much bud over in that amount of time it's for personal smoke not distribution.
I decided to flip mine to flower today
Estimated harvest date May 15th. Lol.
seems like forever.
My grow is for personal smoke as well, though I also do sell enough off to friends at a really cheap price just to recover the cost of the grow.
This LED set up has really helped the electric bill. Last month was $139. So the grow room s only about $60 a month in electric.
figure 60 x 3 months = $180
3 bags of soil per grow= $120
Co2 per grow = $80
thas only $480 per grow plus minimal “plant food” cost. Maybe another $20 a grow.
All I use are worm castings, guano, kelp meal, molasses and cal mag. They are all inexpensive and last multiple grows.
I’ll start a journal in the next day or so for the flowering stage.
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Wow @Glookies1 If you dont mind me saying that grow style sounds really basic but I like it! My set up is a shit ton more expensive. Not that money buys quality more that I like pushing everything to the max! Its interesting how your c02 only costs 80 a grow. I'm using smart bags cos they were cheap and might help. But then reading up on c02 it only really can be properly utilised when running temps at around 30°c and lights over 1000w.
I am defo looking at going LED but christ is the market a tough one! There are so many options! I will decided at some point dont wanna turn my journal into a light competition haha!
I am defo looking at going LED but christ is the market a tough one! There are so many options! I will decided at some point dont wanna turn my journal into a light competition haha!
A 20lb tank refill of Co2 is $10 here. A tank lasts me 10 days or so. Plus I usually stop co2 the final 2 weeks.
My set up was pretty expensive. The light was $1300, co2 controller $400, 8x4 Gorilla tent $500, 6 inch exhaust fan and carbon filter, plus a 4 inch fan and carbon filter for intake air, temp controller $100, humidity control $100, dehumidifier, humidifier, fans.
I exhaust heat to the basement, air intake is from the room. Home heat and ac controls the room temp.
Then there’s the veg tent, a couple 4 bulb T5’s and fans for that.
Probably $5000 tied up in “stuff”. But the cost of the grow itself is relatively inexpensive.
Co2 is pretty worthless without strong lights and slightly higher temps.
It’s a “balancing act”.. but co2 never hurts.
I cold run higher co2, I’ve got plenty of light, but I’d need to raise temps for it to be effective. At 1400 ppm, temps can be 85 to 90.
I find that at those temps, the plants transpire a lot more and high humidity becomes an issue, plus it harder to maintain the day/night temp difference that I like.
I really try to keep night temp within 10 degrees of day temp.
When I had a bigger house, I had an actual sealed room. I ran 2, 1000 watt hps over 6 plants. I also ran higher temps and higher co2, but that required way more money tied up in “environmental controls”.
AC ran all the time. Costs per grow were waaay higher electricity wise. Truthfully, yields were not that much better. Though I was growing a pure sativa at the time, which rarely yield as well as a hybrid or indica.