GDB's Thanksgiving Harvest

[Grand Daddy Black]

You mean combust?

Correct Stone. I should have been clearer.

 

[StoneOtter]

Correct Stone. I should have been clearer.

That combustion is a killer! I love it but do stay away mostly.

 

[Grand Daddy Black]

Hello growers.

The 4x4 gang is plugging along with no apparent issues. (Well, excepting that I'm not crazy about the leaf posture on the GDBs.)

Yesterday, the 2 GDBs (flip + 12) nearly reached the height of the Purple Dream (flip + 27). But keep in mind that the Dream sits on the tent floor while the GDBs are each elevated by an 11 inch milk crate. My hope is that the Dream is done stretching and I'm trying to keep the GDBs at the same distance from the light as the Dream during the GDB's stretch phase.

Anyway, once the GDBs nearly reached the height of the dream I took them off of the milk crates and replaced the crates with 3 stacked beverage carriers. This lowered the GDBs by 2 inches. (The beverage carriers are 3 inches tall each. The milk crate is 11 inches tall.)

If things go as "planned" in the days to come the GDBs will continue stretching and will again reach (or slightly exceed) the height of the Dream. At that point I will remove one beverage carrier from each plant, bringing them back down by 3 inches. We'll do this dance until the GDBs stop stretching.

Here's a view through the side door with the Purple girls on the left and the GDBs on the right.

BTW, the Purple Tahoe (front left) got no where near as tall as the Dream. She is elevated by a milk crate to get her up there.

And here is a close look at what's developing on the Dream:

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In the 2x2 things are a bit more puzzling. I'm still uncertain as to why I got these yellow leaves on the Pineapple Express (flip +6). It doesn't appear to be spreading (but maybe it is), but the ones that have it continue on their way to being fully yellow. This plant gets organic nutes from the soil she's in and I top-fed her some Roots Organics organic Grow nutrients last week. I would think she would be happy but clearly she is not. She also has not bounced back much from the training I did to her the other day.

I'm taking a wait and see attitude with this one until I come up with a better idea. Maybe I'll do a slurry test on the soil to see what it reveals.

See how those leaves right above the arrow are getting yellowing along the edges? I think that is my clue as to what's going on. Unfortunately, I'm clueless as to what it means.

Happy Veteran's Day to all the vets out there!

Around lunch time I'll be heading to my local Mission BBQ for a free beef brisket sammich! It's an outstanding sammich of juicy, tender chunks. Pre-Covid it cost $8 and now it costs $12, so I will not be passing up this opportunity!

Thanks for looking in.

Peace.

 

[Carmen Ray]

GDB those plants are looking fab. I hope you id the issue with the pineapple express. Enjoy the sarmie. Happy vets day to those who served.

 

[Bill284]

Hello growers.

The 4x4 gang is plugging along with no apparent issues. (Well, excepting that I'm not crazy about the leaf posture on the GDBs.)

Yesterday, the 2 GDBs (flip + 12) nearly reached the height of the Purple Dream (flip + 27). But keep in mind that the Dream sits on the tent floor while the GDBs are each elevated by an 11 inch milk crate. My hope is that the Dream is done stretching and I'm trying to keep the GDBs at the same distance from the light as the Dream during the GDB's stretch phase.

Anyway, once the GDBs nearly reached the height of the dream I took them off of the milk crates and replaced the crates with 3 stacked beverage carriers. This lowered the GDBs by 2 inches. (The beverage carriers are 3 inches tall each. The milk crate is 11 inches tall.)

If things go as "planned" in the days to come the GDBs will continue stretching and will again reach (or slightly exceed) the height of the Dream. At that point I will remove one beverage carrier from each plant, bringing them back down by 3 inches. We'll do this dance until the GDBs stop stretching.

Here's a view through the side door with the Purple girls on the left and the GDBs on the right.

BTW, the Purple Tahoe (front left) got no where near as tall as the Dream. She is elevated by a milk crate to get her up there.

And here is a close look at what's developing on the Dream:

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In the 2x2 things are a bit more puzzling. I'm still uncertain as to why I got these yellow leaves on the Pineapple Express (flip +6). It doesn't appear to be spreading (but maybe it is), but the ones that have it continue on their way to being fully yellow. This plant gets organic nutes from the soil she's in and I top-fed her some Roots Organics organic Grow nutrients last week. I would think she would be happy but clearly she is not. She also has not bounced back much from the training I did to her the other day.

I'm taking a wait and see attitude with this one until I come up with a better idea. Maybe I'll do a slurry test on the soil to see what it reveals.

See how those leaves right above the arrow are getting yellowing along the edges? I think that is my clue as to what's going on. Unfortunately, I'm clueless as to what it means.

Happy Veteran's Day to all the vets out there!

Around lunch time I'll be heading to my local Mission BBQ for a free beef brisket sammich! It's an outstanding sammich of juicy, tender chunks. Pre-Covid it cost $8 and now it costs $12, so I will not be passing up this opportunity!

Thanks for looking in.

Peace.

Happy veterans day to you too my friend.
Enjoy th BBQ.
Pineapple Express, are you over watering her by chance?
Would explain the slow recovery and the failure to pick up nutrients properly.
Just a thought.
But root issue?
Maby root bound?
Have a great day.




Stay safe
Bill284

 

[InTheShed]

The Dots are still working their magic in the 4x4!

an 11 inch milk crate.

3 stacked beverage carriers. This lowered the GDBs by 2 inches. (The beverage carriers are 3 inches tall each. The milk crate is 11 inches tall.)

At that point I will remove one beverage carrier from each plant, bringing them back down by 3 inches.

So
Much
Math!

I'm still uncertain as to why I got these yellow leaves on the Pineapple Express (flip +6). It doesn't appear to be spreading (but maybe it is), but the ones that have it continue on their way to being fully yellow. This plant gets organic nutes from the soil she's in and I top-fed her some Roots Organics organic Grow nutrients last week. I would think she would be happy but clearly she is not. She also has not bounced back much from the training I did to her the other day.

I'm uncertain as well, but it happened after you exposed those inside lowers to a lot more light than they were getting before. That would increase overall photosynthesis, and maybe there's a time lag between needing more N and getting it from the roots.

 

[Trala]

Good morning, Black

Your grow is beautiful as always. I have a non grow related question. Do you steal your milk crates? Coz here in my country, if you have milk crates that aren’t stolen we consider it unAustralian.

 

[Grand Daddy Black]

Hello grow group!

Last night all of the 4x4 girls were fed. Each got 1L of silica (@4g per gallon), IL of Recharge (@2.5g per gallon) and 2L of plain water. All were watered to run off.

I looked in the 4x4 this morning to find that the GDBs had nearly stretched back up to the height of the Dream overnight! I'm almost certain that by tomorrow I'll need to remove one beverage carrier from underneath each of the GDBs.

Purple girls left (Dream back left). GDBs on the right.

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In the 2x2, yesterday I removed all of the yellowed leaves from the Pineapple Express. I was having trouble determining the extent to which the yellowing was spreading so I thought removing the yellow leaves would make it easier to see how much it is really happening.

That worked. When I looked in there this morning I had about 4 new yellowing leaves!

I am now convinced that this is a soil ph issue, just like my Purple Dream plant went through early in her life. I'm also convinced that the ph issue is related to the 3+ year old concentrated super soil that the PE sits in.

I didn't even bother to do a slurry test. I watered in 1tsp of fast-acting lime this morning and now will wait and see.
(The lights went out before I could get a pic)

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Thank you for your feedback:

GDB those plants are looking fab. I hope you id the issue with the pineapple express. Enjoy the sarmie. Happy vets day to those who served.

Thanks Carmen! The brisket was sublime as usual. Their pit master is on point!

Pineapple Express, are you over watering her by chance?
Would explain the slow recovery and the failure to pick up nutrients properly.
Just a thought.
But root issue?
Maby root bound?

No way she's getting over watered Bill. And due to her slow start it's doubtful that she's root bound.
It's related to soil ph, I believe.

Thanks for stopping by!

The Dots are still working their magic in the 4x4!

Yes they are Shed. They work really well until they don't.

So
Much
Math!

Let me make it more concise: 11 - 9 = 2.

I'm uncertain as well, but it happened after you exposed those inside lowers to a lot more light than they were getting before. That would increase overall photosynthesis, and maybe there's a time lag between needing more N and getting it from the roots.

Soil ph is my take.

Your grow is beautiful as always. I have a non grow related question. Do you steal your milk crates? Coz here in my country, if you have milk crates that aren’t stolen we consider it unAustralian.

That depends on one's definition of "steal."


PEACE

 

[smokesbetter]

Lime ??? why not do the slurry test anyway don't cost much ! I see the PE has some leaf curling also > if were me i would have went with some N and test the soil , if you got some old bad soil would be quicker to uppot and use new, want take long to get back on track , it is in stretch ? Just my 2C

 

[Grand Daddy Black]

Lime ??? why not do the slurry test anyway don't cost much ! I see the PE has some leaf curling also > if were me i would have went with some N and test the soil , if you got some old bad soil would be quicker to uppot and use new, want take long to get back on track , it is in stretch ? Just my 2C

I will admit a slurry test was in order Smoke. But I had a big debate with my Lazy-Meter about that. The Lazy-Meter argued that, "You just saw this a few months ago with another plant. Exact same behavior. You did a slurry test and found that the soil was too acidic. Why do it again?"

Since I am truly lazy, I had and nor did I try to come up with a good counter argument!

If the lime doesn't help, then yes, I'll probably get her out of that soil.

Thanks man.

 

[smokesbetter]

Got you on the lazy meter i had a whole day of it yesterday > but i did split wood 2 days in a row SO .. sounds like a plan and i new when you said you took those yellows off if it's fucked up you'll know tomorrow ! Been There too . But good thing only one plant

 

[Azimuth]

I usually leave the yellowing leaves on as long as they want to stay around if I think it's a deficiency, at least until I can get it fixed.

If there is a deficiency, the plant will move the mobile elements from the lower leaves to the upper new growth as called for so if you remove the leaves supplying what is needed above before you address it the plant will just start taking what it can from the next set of leaves.

So, by plucking them off before fixing the issue all you're doing is shifting the problem and yellowing more leaves than necessary which compromises things later on.

Hopefully your fix is just the ticket.

 

[Carcass]

so if you remove the leaves supplying what is needed above before you address it the plant will just start taking what it can from the next set of leaves.

I know this, but still have to talk myself out of removing them..I'd much rather not have them in the first place, but that doesn't always work out...
My plant is yellowing, and I assumed a shot of nitrogen would fix her right up, but it has had no effect-a ph problem is something I hadn't considered...(I use promix, and haven't ph'd for a year or so) so I guess I'll find the pH meter, and see how far off my water is- it used to come out of the tap at 8.0.
Thanks for the idea, GDB!

 

[Grand Daddy Black]

Hello all and happy Sunday morning!

In the 4x4 this morning, the Grandaddy Blacks have nearly reached the height of the Purple Dream again, but not quite. I measured the plant heights:

Purple Tahoe (back left sitting on a milk crate) 18 inches from soil to tip
Purple Dream (back right on the tent floor) 29 inches
GDB (front left on 3 beverage carriers) 18 inches
GDB (front right on 3 beverage carriers) 17.5 inches

It's Flip + 29 for the Purple girls and Flip + 14 for the GDBs.

I'm going to leave the all of the risers underneath the GDBs until they exceed the height of the Dream (if they ever do). If they stopped stretching right where they are I would be quite happy to leave everything as is for the duration of the grow.

For circulation, I put another fan in there, laying flat on the floor and blowing up through the greenery.

Here's a view through the side door:

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In the 2x2, the Pineapple Express (Flip + 8) responded well to the dose of fast-acting lime. She has bounced back from our recent training session and evidently she's eating again!

She's on the road to recovery!
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Lastly, I chopped and bagged the little Fruit Punch auto. In the end she gave me 17.5 grams and I'm not complaining. (That's 8.75 for me and 8.75 for @LKABudMan. )

I smoked (yep, really "smoked") a tester and what a nice feeling. She had me staring at stuff and she tastes good too (already)!

She's as close as I'm going to get to a "Thanksgiving Harvest."

Everyone enjoy your Sunday! I should have a fairly good day as my home football team doesn't play the powerful Philadelphia Eagles until tomorrow night, when there may be carnage.

Thanks for stopping by.

PEACE

 

[StoneOtter]

So learning from past fix's and doing the same to fix them = lazy? Dang! She's right again!
Happy Sunday!

 

[Grand Daddy Black]

Got you on the lazy meter i had a whole day of it yesterday > but i did split wood 2 days in a row SO .. sounds like a plan and i new when you said you took those yellows off if it's fucked up you'll know tomorrow ! Been There too . But good thing only one plant

Without Lazy-Meters we would all be like androids Smoke. There's always something that needs to be done!

I usually leave the yellowing leaves on as long as they want to stay around if I think it's a deficiency, at least until I can get it fixed.

If there is a deficiency, the plant will move the mobile elements from the lower leaves to the upper new growth as called for so if you remove the leaves supplying what is needed above before you address it the plant will just start taking what it can from the next set of leaves.

So, by plucking them off before fixing the issue all you're doing is shifting the problem and yellowing more leaves than necessary which compromises things later on.

Hopefully your fix is just the ticket.

That makes sense Azi. I typically leave them on until they fall off by themselves, but this time I was having a problem figuring out the rate at which it was spreading.

Thanks for the input.

 

[Grand Daddy Black]

I know this, but still have to talk myself out of removing them..I'd much rather not have them in the first place, but that doesn't always work out...
My plant is yellowing, and I assumed a shot of nitrogen would fix her right up, but it has had no effect-a ph problem is something I hadn't considered...(I use promix, and haven't ph'd for a year or so) so I guess I'll find the pH meter, and see how far off my water is- it used to come out of the tap at 8.0.
Thanks for the idea, GDB!

Good luck with that Carcass!

Thanks for stopping by.

 

[Grand Daddy Black]

So learning from past fix's and doing the same to fix them = lazy? Dang! She's right again!
Happy Sunday!

My memory usually doesn't serve me that well. But this time I had a point of reference that occurred recently and my memory said, "Hold my beer. I got this."

 

[Azimuth]

My memory usually doesn't serve me that well. But this time I had a point of reference that occurred recently and my memory said, "Hold my beer. I got this."

Wait, what?!? I thought you said all along it was the Lazy Meter that guided that decision, but now  you're taking all the credit?

 

[smokesbetter]

well i am glad the lime is doing it for ya , had to look it up had forgot it raises the Ph when needed .> Duh Oh well good day