What Bode said.
GDB: Old Dog -- New Tricks
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What they said.
Your outdoor lady looks great 
you sure you didn't get the old switcheroo like Bill did with a random auto seed in the pack. Wondering if it was the same seedbank too 
at this stage I'd pray for a auto as a photo will reveg again outside 
Best of luck GDB
you sure you didn't get the old switcheroo like Bill did with a random auto seed in the pack. Wondering if it was the same seedbank too at this stage I'd pray for a auto as a photo will reveg again outside Best of luck GDB
smokesbetter
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what there talking about ^^^
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Thanks for the feedback on the remote CL!
I was surprised to see the pistils on her -- and not in a good way. But the decision to grow her outside came late in her growth. And until I made that decision she was being run under 18/6 lighting. Obviously, putting her outside under sunlight of a much shorter duration kicked her into flower. Live and learn.
I'm certain she's not an auto because I had her under 18/6 lighting for 73 days and she didn't auto. This was her a few days before the move outdoors:
And none of her offspring are autos.
So now it's time to tighten my jock-strap and get to ciphering in quest of a solution!
But first, I've got questions.
Though I've seen a clone reveg, I've never seen a full-bodied plant reveg. What is she going to do? What should I look for? Are those pistils going to remain throughout the reveg process?
I assume that I should hold off on giving her Geoflora Bloom. Correct?
Last, should I tell LB about this or just let him think he screwed up something on his end. (I like the second option!
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I was surprised to see the pistils on her -- and not in a good way. But the decision to grow her outside came late in her growth. And until I made that decision she was being run under 18/6 lighting. Obviously, putting her outside under sunlight of a much shorter duration kicked her into flower. Live and learn.
I'm certain she's not an auto because I had her under 18/6 lighting for 73 days and she didn't auto. This was her a few days before the move outdoors:
And none of her offspring are autos.
So now it's time to tighten my jock-strap and get to ciphering in quest of a solution!
But first, I've got questions.
Though I've seen a clone reveg, I've never seen a full-bodied plant reveg. What is she going to do? What should I look for? Are those pistils going to remain throughout the reveg process?
I assume that I should hold off on giving her Geoflora Bloom. Correct?
Last, should I tell LB about this or just let him think he screwed up something on his end. (I like the second option!
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The remote outdoor Cosmic Lights is forming pistils already, Smoke. It's too early for that!
It'll look just like a clone revegging, just bigger. I'm not trying to be funny there, a revegging clone is basically just a small version of the adult plant.
Correct.
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Hello all.
I've spent this morning thinking about my early-flowering outdoor plant and what I could have done differently. And that has led me to a question.
A short while ago, I flipped my Phase II plants over a three-day period. I took them from 18 to 16 hours of light one day, then from 16 down to 14 the next day, and then 14 to 12 on the third day. On the day after that I called Flip Day 1.
Shed wrote this:
What's the solution? If you know you eventually want to put a plant outside do you run it under, say, 13/11 from its birth and then only put it outdoors when there's at least 13 hours of sun?
Of course schlepping the plant in and out to ensure it gets sufficient lighting is an option. But that option wasn't available in this instance. I know even if I had taken a light to LB's place, he would not have signed on for daily schlepping duties. And, we would not have been able to put her in the ground until...whenever (else she couldn't be schlepped).
I had meant to go back and read @StonerOtter's summer journal from last year, but I never got around to it. I'll bet the answer lies therein!
Just thinking out loud here. LB and I might try this again next year, but I'd like to get it right the next time.
PEACE
I've spent this morning thinking about my early-flowering outdoor plant and what I could have done differently. And that has led me to a question.
A short while ago, I flipped my Phase II plants over a three-day period. I took them from 18 to 16 hours of light one day, then from 16 down to 14 the next day, and then 14 to 12 on the third day. On the day after that I called Flip Day 1.
Shed wrote this:
So if taking a plant from 18/6 to 16/8 causes a plant to think it's been flipped, that means I really had no chance with putting the remote CL outdoors in the ground after running her inside under 18/6 for more than 2 months. While she was inside, had I tried to lower her light hours to match what was outside, she would have flipped in the tent!
What's the solution? If you know you eventually want to put a plant outside do you run it under, say, 13/11 from its birth and then only put it outdoors when there's at least 13 hours of sun?
Of course schlepping the plant in and out to ensure it gets sufficient lighting is an option. But that option wasn't available in this instance. I know even if I had taken a light to LB's place, he would not have signed on for daily schlepping duties. And, we would not have been able to put her in the ground until...whenever (else she couldn't be schlepped).
I had meant to go back and read @StonerOtter's summer journal from last year, but I never got around to it. I'll bet the answer lies therein!
Just thinking out loud here. LB and I might try this again next year, but I'd like to get it right the next time.
PEACE
Yeah, pretty much.
I grow any plants I'm putting outdoors under 15/9 until they go out, since we get about 15 hours of daylight at the end of May here.
My plants didn't try to shift to flower this year.
Slowed growth and eventually single leaves out the bud and a fresh start.
You'll obviously still get nice flower of they get the time they need to recover which they will put doors.. so what does this mean?
Monster crop!
Yeah baby lets go
Sorry I'm excited Yeah baby lets go
never seen a massive outdoor monster crop go down 
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Hello all.
It's Flip 13 for the Phase II girls.
The Godberry is taking forever to put on her makeup but I think she's about to join the party.
PEACE
It's Flip 13 for the Phase II girls.
The Godberry is taking forever to put on her makeup but I think she's about to join the party.
PEACE
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Sometimes you get a good set of colas at the end but you often get airy flowers, because the reveg and reflower happen in rapid succession with the solstice around two weeks away.
Correct.
What Mel said, and what Otter does. Once they're about 4 or 5 nodes tall you would switch the lighting to whatever the daylight hours are for when you'll be putting them outside. You can find that info here (for future reference):
Sunrise and sunset times in Washington DC
Calculations of sunrise and sunset in Washington DC – USA for September 2024. Generic astronomy calculator to calculate times for sunrise, sunset, moonrise, moonset for many cities, with daylight saving time and time zones taken in account.
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So if it was going outside on May 1, the timer would be set for 14/10.
Looking at that lighter green in the middle I'd say you're spot on!
I just put my plants outdoors once they are in their final pot and they will go to flower on their own. I only use the light in the morning and take them in at 8:00pm so I do not need lights in the evening. 
I think you guys are right about the outside light times being shorter than the inside timed lights. 
However, I am in the "let's see how she turns out this fall, before getting too concerned about things", camp. 
I bet most folks that move indoor plants outside have had this happen. Probably more strain dependent. The Fuel D.OG, I grew outside started flowering before the soltice at the end of June where I live.
I bet that plant turns out super fine.
Your buddy looks like they know what they're doing by looking at the landscaping.
However, I am in the "let's see how she turns out this fall, before getting too concerned about things", camp. I bet most folks that move indoor plants outside have had this happen. Probably more strain dependent. The Fuel D.OG, I grew outside started flowering before the soltice at the end of June where I live. I bet that plant turns out super fine.
Your buddy looks like they know what they're doing by looking at the landscaping.
The Fuel D.OG outside plant that I grew had more airy flowers.
The Fuel D.OG, I grew inside had rock hard buds. Just re-enforcing the statement above.
And fashionably late....
I think you're right- something finally woke up in her!
That's my thoughts also...I've got two of them outside, both starting to flower...I'm hoping they keep it up, but if they re-veg, it's out of my control anyhow, so I'll just have to sit and watch....and feed them for an extra couple months ...
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The Godberry likes slow, dramatic turns. Some call that being a ham.And fashionably late....
I think you're right- something finally woke up in her!
That's my thoughts also...I've got two of them outside, both starting to flower...I'm hoping they keep it up, but if they re-veg, it's out of my control anyhow, so I'll just have to sit and watch....and feed them for an extra couple months ...
If this early flowering thing extends the outdoor CL grow by a couple of months then it's a wrap. Hell, LB might end up just hanging some Christmas lights on her.
And it worked!Some call that being a ham.
She got her very own post earlier...
...(there's no ham emoji, so a ham burger will have to do.
..)Highya GDB,
After everyone else has responded, I'll take it a step further. When I start seedlings, the lights are set for the day I put them outdoors in the cold frame. For me, mid-late May, lights on at 5:04, and off at 8:03. The sun takes over after that. In the sun now, your lady should reveg, look good, then go back to flowering. Hopefully, you'll figure it out with all the responses! In the meantime, Happy Smokin'
After everyone else has responded, I'll take it a step further. When I start seedlings, the lights are set for the day I put them outdoors in the cold frame. For me, mid-late May, lights on at 5:04, and off at 8:03. The sun takes over after that. In the sun now, your lady should reveg, look good, then go back to flowering. Hopefully, you'll figure it out with all the responses! In the meantime, Happy Smokin'
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I'll try to say this tactfully.
One 420 member, a highly decorated and highly respected member I might add, is absent from this discussion. I won't name names, but he abetted in this process. He grows outdoors (and in), using LOS and his last name almost rhymes with "farter."
I just want him, and really everyone on 420 to know that I've added a new quote to my signature should such a situation arise again.
One 420 member, a highly decorated and highly respected member I might add, is absent from this discussion. I won't name names, but he abetted in this process. He grows outdoors (and in), using LOS and his last name almost rhymes with "farter."
I just want him, and really everyone on 420 to know that I've added a new quote to my signature should such a situation arise again.