Exceptionally High FECO Yields

[Maritimer]

Looking at the spreadsheet for our Monster clones we will begin drought on both cultivars next Saturday on flower day #45. The colas are stacking well, and so far the branchial structure is managing the weight of the flowers without mechanical relief. The sativa influence in both hybrid clones allows for very precise monitoring of LWA, as the petioles are pronounced and readily available for hand measurements. Indica dominant strains and pheno's can be trickier to measure and sometimes the camera is required to properly assess wilt. Anyhow, these two big sisters are in for a full 11 day run at a late bloom drought. They just don't know it yet.

 

[farside05]

Waterboarding began yesterday;
Barney's Farm Triple Cheese X 1
Seedsman Cheese X 2
Alaskan Purple X 2

All seeds were a very generous gift from a 420 brother!
This place we have here helps me Love again.
Thanks all

The Triple Cheese is nice! I just ordered more of it. Favorite strain of everything I've tried. I look forward to see how it does for you. I've got about a month left on my current grow of Purple Urkle, then an auto run, then the Trip Cheese. So it won't see my tent right away. Hopefully supplies of it will last till then. Momma won't let any of it leave the house. She's quite protective of it.

 

[Maritimer]

The Triple Cheese is nice! I just ordered more of it. Favorite strain of everything I've tried. I look forward to see how it does for you. I've got about a month left on my current grow of Purple Urkle, then an auto run, then the Trip Cheese. So it won't see my tent right away. Hopefully supplies of it will last till then. Momma won't let any of it leave the house. She's quite protective of it.

I am jazzed as heck about the PC. Our friend said he was mailing me some bag seed to further our studies. He did not mention putting top of the line stock in the mix as well. This has been on my wish list ever since I began serious runs.
With the second flower room now ready, my stab at getting together a pound of flower for a 100 gram FECO extraction should be manageable. When I accumulate at least half of the flower I will be camping out with @gr865 making sure my medicine turns out great. 1 gram a day for 100 days is my base before maintenance dosing to be determined later. Since there is no current therapy targeting CAC, my cardiologist group from the VA will be documenting the oil consumption and the maintenance dosing in relation to my mortality. They are giving me loads of grief about smoking cannabis because of the BP rise. I cannot master @Grandpa Tokin consumption of rosin to date so I still smoke flower. Sorry.

 

[Skybound]

Hehe, we can be the 3 Cheese gang as I too have a TC in early veg. I grew this strain a year ago and these TC's grow vigorously quick. The buds stack very well into donkey dicks and the smoke is so sweet. I'm a bad judge of the high as anything rips my face off, but I remember it was gentle on my body. I really enjoyed the strain, but because I pretty much harvested everything right at 8 weeks, I suspect the TC would've done better if I gave them more time, which she'll get in my new bloom room.

What are your cloning practices? I find my best success for cloning is when I take them from the mother roughly 1/3 of the way into the day light, so roughly 6 hours into an 18 hour day. This leaves roughly 12 hours for the plant to collect light and repurpose sugars. I also dim the light for the first 3 days. No direct light from any source and if my propagating light is too close, I will even block the direct light beam and only allow light to spill in around the obstruction. A light diffuser would be best, but I never give good enough thought some times and only react to the situation. Still, between the timing of the cut and diffusing the light for the first 3 days allows the plant to re-prioritize things in a low stress manner. Some wilt in the first 24 hours and is why I use my printed clone stands, but anything will do as it will happen in the first 24 or won't happen at all.

Beyond that, the standard practice of wet/dry cycling is preferred. I favor a more moist medium for the first 2 days, but then aim to let the starter cube get closer to dry as the days progress. High RH, dim light and a gradually decreasing dry medium will make for a good run of clones in 10-14 days more or less.

 

[Maritimer]

I am a devout Bears fan, although not into protests during our national anthem. With that said I do love the Bears, even though I am a better quarterback. Our biggest enemy is Green Bay. The CHEESEHEADS. UGg.

Oh, well. I am a cheesehead now.

How in the heck do bong clearing pokers go missing so often from my desk? Where in the ...

 

[gr865]

The Triple Cheese is nice! I just ordered more of it. Favorite strain of everything I've tried. I look forward to see how it does for you. I've got about a month left on my current grow of Purple Urkle, then an auto run, then the Trip Cheese. So it won't see my tent right away. Hopefully supplies of it will last till then. Momma won't let any of it leave the house. She's quite protective of it.

Is that Barneys Farm Triple Cheese. I have 4 in my tent now at 36 days into veg. Have heard some great things about it so looking forward to this grow. Got one Ayahuasca Purple in the tent also.

The cooling fan under the lamps died yesterday, started squiling very loud and just as I got to the tent it just totally stopped and died. I have a small 6" under the lamps now and heading into town soon to pick up a new 12".
Other than that all is well here in Trapland, just burned a big one and Watching the River Run.

 

[Maritimer]

Is that Barneys Farm Triple Cheese. I have 4 in my tent now at 36 days into veg. Have heard some great things about it so looking forward to this grow. Got one Ayahuasca Purple in the tent also.

The cooling fan under the lamps died yesterday, started squiling very loud and just as I got to the tent it just totally stopped and died. I have a small 6" under the lamps now and heading into town soon to pick up a new 12".
Other than that all is well here in Trapland, just burned a big one and Watching the River Run.

My gosh bro!
You got a beautiful garden and the arrangement surrounding the luminary has my hobbitual mind racing.

 

[Grandpa Tokin]

I cannot master @Grandpa Tokin consumption of rosin to date so I still smoke flower. Sorry.

Puss!

 

[Maritimer]

Veg Room

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• Dec 29, 2019

pathetic clones, NL in her 5th week (stunted), Cali Orange seedling top, not pictured two Cheese...

Flower Room #1

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• Dec 29, 2019

OG GSC on left under LED, Monster clones center two, MC run right two

Northern Lights MC run

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• Dec 29, 2019

Monster clones

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• Dec 29, 2019
• meja study

lower plant treated with meja,
upper plant superior stacking?

OG GSC under LED

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• Dec 29, 2019

best try yet at decent LST.

 

[Maritimer]

MeJA Study Update:
The Cali Orange clones were recently harvested. We got our 62%rh weights today from the little beauties. Clone #2 was a larger specimen, thereby scrubbing the value of our study (technically) as the control and delta plants should be a closer match. We tried. Treated plant remained top dog.

Cali Orange clone #1 (short veg) not treated with meja but subjected to an 11-day drought. 18 grams

Cali Orange clone #2 (short veg) treated with 100 ppm. meja on flower day #30. 52 grams

Both cultivars produced a top shelf flower bouquet and taste. The stone is rock solid and care should be exercised when operating your headphones. The bong should be returned safely to the table within one second of taking a hit or risk breakage.

 

[Maritimer]

I want to ask @InTheShed about his LST picture he shared that looks like the main is never topped, but the plant is trained to grow at like a 45 degree slope. Could that be done indoors, where space becomes more scarce? Is it an "auto" thing? I always hurry to snip off the top breaking apical dominance. I could see a few rows, all bending the same direction. But would it be any better than a plain old quad?

 

[Graytail]

It's pretty easy to manage. When I was training for a shallow canopy I used that method, rather than topping. You just bend the top over when it's big enough - like a sort of question mark shape. Pull the lower stem one direction and tie it in place, then bend the top over into a shepherd's hook shape in the other direction, pointing down. The side nodes will take over and grow stems as thick as the top, as long as you always keep the apical top lower than the side tops. Like a hose filled with water, the plant knows which tip is highest, and the growth hormones get sent there.

I've done 7 node pairs that way - 14 side stems - all even with the apical tip itself. You get a shape tipped to one side, with pairs of stems marching up the main stalk, all ending evenly at the top of the canopy.

 

[Maritimer]

It's pretty easy to manage. When I was training for a shallow canopy I used that method, rather than topping. You just bend the top over when it's big enough - like a sort of question mark shape. Pull the lower stem one direction and tie it in place, then bend the top over into a shepherd's hook shape in the other direction, pointing down. The side nodes will take over and grow stems as thick as the top, as long as you always keep the apical top lower than the side tops. Like a hose filled with water, the plant knows which tip is highest, and the growth hormones get sent there.

I've done 7 node pairs that way - 14 side stems - all even with the apical tip itself. You get a shape tipped to one side, with pairs of stems marching up the main them, all ending evenly at the top of the canopy.

Thanks @Graytail
I can;t see good enough anymore to use scissors. I get fims, when I thought I did well. Bending the beaches over, I can still manage well enough. I got sort of a question mark on the led plant but did not have apical tip low enough. Probably to late for her, but I pity the next one I lasso.

 

[InTheShed]

On a plant that I'm planning LST for, I will start training when it's tall enough to tie down to the edge of the pot (as Graytail said) rather than just toward the edge of the pot. I see growers start too early and never manage to get the main lower than than the lowers.

I don't top the apical stem, but I may top the lowers (on a photo) as they grow, to increase the number of tops.

Watching the River Run.

I was a huge L&M fan in college, and Poco as well. Thanks for the flashback gr8!

Clone #2 was a larger specimen, thereby scrubbing the value of our study (technically) as the control and delta plants should be a closer match. We tried. Treated plant remained top dog.

Was it always bigger? If so, why not apply the Meja to the smaller one?

 

[Maritimer]

Was it always bigger? If so, why not apply the Meja to the smaller one?

Yes, It grew quicker after rooting and stayed bigger. But not three times bigger, and that is the difference in flower production.
A flip of the coin so to speak is why we used the larger clone for that particular study. That is why we used the smaller clone in the subsequent monster study. This is the biggest problem with my statistically inferior sampling. I don't have enough plants to make any of this empirically sound. I try and design the studies to be fair and own up to any discrepancies in the controls. But yeah, none of this floats for publication.

 

[Brian420pm]

This is the training method I worked out for my next grow... the diagram is two plants in a 2 x 2, the grid is 4" squares that represent a net above the plants. Each square is a flower location.. 18 per plant. I'll top above the 4th node, then select the 6 best lateral branches... pull them down closer to horizontal and allow 3 grow sites on each to feed up through the net. All other growth gets pruned.

 

[InTheShed]

Don't show us, show the plants!

 

[Maritimer]

What are your cloning practices? I find my best success for cloning is when I take them from the mother roughly 1/3 of the way into the day light, so roughly 6 hours into an 18 hour day. This leaves roughly 12 hours for the plant to collect light and repurpose sugars. I also dim the light for the first 3 days. No direct light from any source and if my propagating light is too close, I will even block the direct light beam and only allow light to spill in around the obstruction. A light diffuser would be best, but I never give good enough thought some times and only react to the situation. Still, between the timing of the cut and diffusing the light for the first 3 days allows the plant to re-prioritize things in a low stress manner. Some wilt in the first 24 hours and is why I use my printed clone stands, but anything will do as it will happen in the first 24 or won't happen at all.

Beyond that, the standard practice of wet/dry cycling is preferred. I favor a more moist medium for the first 2 days, but then aim to let the starter cube get closer to dry as the days progress. High RH, dim light and a gradually decreasing dry medium will make for a good run of clones in 10-14 days more or less.

Thanks bro!
Too late for this crew of cloners!
I will take heed in my next attempt.
Utter, and complete failure this go.
0 for 4
All in trash container now.
Bong hits will help assuage frustration.
But thanks again Sky.

 

[Skybound]

I just got 5 to root from a batch of 6 and shortly after setting them in cubes, I was confident all 6 would die, yet 5 surprised me. Now I have 5 unsightly young veggers to decide what to do with. Moral of the story, if they're not completely toppled, they still could make it.

 

[farside05]

Is that Barneys Farm Triple Cheese. I have 4 in my tent now at 36 days into veg. Have heard some great things about it so looking forward to this grow. Got one Ayahuasca Purple in the tent also.

The cooling fan under the lamps died yesterday, started squiling very loud and just as I got to the tent it just totally stopped and died. I have a small 6" under the lamps now and heading into town soon to pick up a new 12".
Other than that all is well here in Trapland, just burned a big one and Watching the River Run.

Yes Barney's. To my knowledge they are the only ones using that strain name.