Dutchman’s Eternal Frost Factory

[Dutchman1990]

Wow Dutch Looking Great !

Thanks PC!

Hey buddy such a beautiful grow you have!

Quick question what are those plastic drop rings called again?

Thanks Higher and they are called Matrix circulation collars!

Those plants are looking really good there your doing a wonderful job

Why thank you kindly Mushie!

How slick is that? I love it!!
I am growing vicariously thru you !

Anything I can do to help Baron

I see in a lot of your plants, you top at that certain spot, leaving just a small lil stub above the top internode. It looked like the one plant you didn’t top at that specific mark, but just below... the stem snapped. That’s unfortunate!!

plants are looking great though man! Very healthy!

Keen eye Backlip! I do indeed top usually a 1/4” above the 4th node to help prevent splitting in the initial training period but @Heavenly Hybrid is right! This split was actually done a week before flower when I accidentally dropped my CO2 bottle on that side of the plant lol! Whoops but she didn’t even skip a beat! I generally repair any splits or damage with masking tape and remove after a few weeks.

I thought the same thing when I saw Dutch's oopsie! That's the @Heavenly Hybrid stump! She was the first person I heard recommend that to help prevent stem-splits.

She was indeed and a great idea at that!

Awesome looking plants. I had a plant snap like that recently but it seems to be doing just fine.

Cheers Jody! These plants are really resilient and will do just about anything to keep chugging along!

Everything is looking stellar as usual. You’re such an amazing gardener Dutch! Dang 4.5 hours, but it was worth it, ahh I can breathe easier just looking at that lollipop job. So much more open, I think it’s one of my favorite parts of the grow, post lollipop.

Splits happen to the best of us (aka Dutch), I’d say the stump helps more at the beginning stages of training, when they are particularly fragile at the nodes. That particular split looks like it might’ve happened closer to bloom? The arms get harder and woodier (is that a word?) and when you pull them down, they say uh-uh and split. Not sure a bigger stump would’ve made a difference at that point? No worse for the wear, she’ll be great. Wow, what a ramble! Lol, I’m not even medicated yet! Beautiful work Dutch!!

Your very correct HH and thanks! My back wasn’t feeling it this morning but WOW did the ladies ever respond well to the defoliation and LOLLIPOPing! I’ve got a video coming up below to show how well they are doing this morning at lights on and watering! The split as you had mentioned was just before flower so good catch on that. She didn’t skip a beat when it happened I just taped her up and left her to her vices!

Highya Dutchie,

On the split stalk, I'd lash it up with some string to close it up a little, and prevent anymore splitting. It's not difficult, and it works great. Cheers

Thanks Bode, it’s really solid and won’t be splitting anymore! It’s got a rigid bark building up on the inside of the knuckle and it’s pretty impressive I must say haha! I’ll get some closeups of it for tomorrow’s update.

This is the second plant I’ve had snap like this. The first was in a scrog(will never scrog again after my last grow) and this one was my gelato.og quadline. I used foam plant wire or whatever it’s called to and twisted it around the split to pull it together and then covered it in tape and it didn’t even seem to slow down.

These plants like it rough and usually will respond well to being bent, squeezed, pinched and tied down!

Looking spec’y Dutch - and tidy now too!



Yes it is!

I like to use athletes strapping tape (the rigid stuff) to repair stems - it’s made for skin so i figure it’s fairly gentle, and it breaths a bit . It’s also tall string so you can kinda use it to pull a junction back together, if needed

Thanks Amy and that’s a great idea! Breathable with durability is a winning factor! I use green painters masking tape which is delicate on the stem and removes easily!

 

[Dutchman1990]

Update​

What’s up folks! As promised a short and sweet update today with some photos from the 4x4 ladies and their response to the heavy defoliation work yesterday!

Video included!

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Budlets are exploding all over the canopy and I can’t wait to see these ladies in a few weeks time! It’s going to be a fun journey ahead and I for one can’t wait!

Of course during the defoliation yesterday I took a healthy cutting from each plant. Labelled and placed into the bubble cloner hopefully I’ll get some roots in about a weeks time!

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Another update tomorrow to go over the first few days of flower for the 2x2 and more pictures to come!

Stay Medicated

 

[Amy Gardner]

green painters masking tape which is delicate on the stem and removes easily!

Yeah - the athletes tape wouldn’t come off so easily I don’t think!

 

[PCaddict]

Wow great video Dutch. Man you defoliated the crap out of those they are all stripped on the bottom. Tops look Great though. How do you get to them with that net. I would never be able to get to them all and it would Kill my back and knees

 

[Dutchman1990]

It wasn’t fun and it was a lot of work but the results speak for themselves! The ladies are praying hard and loving life now that more airflow and light is breaking through the canopy! I’ll be doing another defoliation next weekend to remove the big fan leaves left blocking nodes! It never ends my friend haha

 

[N420]

You took the words right out of my mouth Dutch the ladies are praying hard after the defoil and are loving life. Nice job with the lollipoping as well get those girls concentrating on the buds that count. I did a similar lollipop this round in my garden it was the most I have removed compared to other runs and it's working out very well. All looking fantastic Dutch

 

[Backlipslide]

Keen eye Backlip! I do indeed top usually a 1/4” above the 4th node to help prevent splitting in the initial training period but @Heavenly Hybrid is right! This split was actually done a week before flower when I accidentally dropped my CO2 bottle on that side of the plant lol! Whoops but she didn’t even skip a beat! I generally repair any splits or damage with masking tape and remove after a few weeks.

Ahh damn that’s unfortunate bro! I’m sure she will be fine! Hope your able to somewhat close that gap, so the inside of the stem doesn’t get infected... but I’m sure your all over it with that masking tape!

Those are the things I’m looking for, the “in behind the scenes” (almost) kind of a thing.

they look great bro! Your one hell of a cultivator!

I love the video you posted. The tune had me bumping my head. I also love the air flow you have in there! That is something pictures just do not capture!

I would say keep doing what your doing! But you’ve been killin it since July 25/2018 so I’m not going To, because you’ve been doing you since that date, and absolutely killing it bro!

 

[Dutchman1990]

You took the words right out of my mouth Dutch the ladies are praying hard after the defoil and are loving life. Nice job with the lollipoping as well get those girls concentrating on the buds that count. I did a similar lollipop this round in my garden it was the most I have removed compared to other runs and it's working out very well. All looking fantastic Dutch

Thanks N420! I’m interested to try the comparison in the near future between heavy defoliation and minimal defoliation on a clone to see how much of a difference it actually makes! For now though this round I’m looking forward to seeing how these ladies go from here!

Ahh damn that’s unfortunate bro! I’m sure she will be fine! Hope your able to somewhat close that gap, so the inside of the stem doesn’t get infected... but I’m sure your all over it with that masking tape!

Those are the things I’m looking for, the “in behind the scenes” (almost) kind of a thing.

they look great bro! Your one hell of a cultivator!

I love the video you posted. The tune had me bumping my head. I also love the air flow you have in there! That is something pictures just do not capture!

I would say keep doing what your doing! But you’ve been killin it since July 25/2018 so I’m not going To, because you’ve been doing you since that date, and absolutely killing it bro!

Thanks a ton brother I really appreciate that! Airflow is definitely a critical part in maintaining a healthy environment for the ladies to flourish in so I make sure to keep them happy!
The split has healed up really well and has some crazy thick bark building! Check it out!

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I missed my chance for pictures this evening so I’ll save the update for tomorrow!

 

[Pennywise]

That shows how tough they are.

 

[Mushie1005]

Wonderful update I really liked the video you did a really nice job on the defoliation on your plants I bet they are just loving it!!!

 

[veinz]

Do you have something more about the watering , wanted to automate because of this

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Chaos

but looking in on some more detail here and there

 

[ProfessorFlora]

Wow Dutch. Things are looking great over here. I wish you luck in stripping back the plants. Always seems to work when I do it. I'm doing the opposite for my current grow and am going to see how they do with minimal leaf removal. A side by side sounds good. Hope you're well my man

 

[InTheShed]

I'm doing the opposite for my current grow and am going to see how they do with minimal leaf removal.

Most folks in a scrog will strip everything under the net either at flip or when stretch ends (or both!). With plants that close together, airflow becomes even more important, not to mention that nothing below the net will get any light as the tops bud up.

 

[ProfessorFlora]

Most folks in a scrog will strip everything under the net either at flip or when stretch ends (or both!). With plants that close together, airflow becomes even more important, not to mention that nothing below the net will get any light as the tops bud up.

I'll still remove the lower stuff. I have a bit more room to play with as there's only 2 plants this time.

 

[Dutchman1990]

That shows how tough they are.

Very true! They just want to grow!

Wonderful update I really liked the video you did a really nice job on the defoliation on your plants I bet they are just loving it!!!

Thanks Mushie and these ladies exploded after the big defoliation! Can’t wait to show them all off again.

Do you have something more about the watering , wanted to automate because of this

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• veinz
• Dec 10, 2019

Chaos

but looking in on some more detail here and there

Check your PM! We can chat more about it.

Wow Dutch. Things are looking great over here. I wish you luck in stripping back the plants. Always seems to work when I do it. I'm doing the opposite for my current grow and am going to see how they do with minimal leaf removal. A side by side sounds good. Hope you're well my man

Thanks Prof! After the initial defoliation/lollipop last weekend the girls responded very well so a more mild defoliation this weekend to thin out the canopy and remove any monster fan leaves and then we are well on our way!
Hope you and the family are well my friend!

Most folks in a scrog will strip everything under the net either at flip or when stretch ends (or both!). With plants that close together, airflow becomes even more important, not to mention that nothing below the net will get any light as the tops bud up.

Couldn’t agree more and this canopy will be full of buds soon! More light and airflow the better!

Got an update for later on to go over a few things in the garden so I hope you all have a fantastic day and I’ll catchup after work!

 

[TinyBuds]

First off, the garden is looking voluptuously verdant. The quadlining done here is breathtakingly beautiful as well. I'm excited to see the them once they start stacking up good and thick.

 

[Dutchman1990]

First off, the garden is looking voluptuously verdant. The quadlining done here is breathtakingly beautiful as well. I'm excited to see the them once they start stacking up good and thick.

Hey Tiny and welcome to my journal friend! I appreciate the kind words and I to am excited to see these girls fatten up over the next few weeks! If you have any questions along the way just ask!

 

[StoneOtter]

Awesomeness here Dutch!

 

[Pennywise]

Looking good Dutch.

 

[Heavenly Hybrid]