Doc's Inspired Help Journal Run By Gazoo - Blueberry In DBHB Kit

[Doc Bud]

3 DAYS to 12hr Seed Soak​

Will start the SEED SOAK the morning of November 9th, Can't wait

I'll be out of town next Tuesday through Saturday....so hopefully something will break ground before then. No pics from me during that time, but I will be able to comment, etc.

 

[Gazoo]

So, let's do this thing the easy, non-automated way with buckets and pitchers, cool? I don't have a watering system like that, and I think you'll want to copy what I do so you can have good success without any variables.

Watering the way I'm going to show you will increase oxygen to the roots, mainly because it happens quickly. Slow watering "may" partially drown the roots and certainly won't draw as much fresh air in due to slow draining. So, for this journal, let's stick to the analog, easy basics, cool?

Can do, Back to the basics THANKS.
Following your lead and process will be best for sure

NOTE:
I have only used the Dunking process for early VEG the
slow watering was after up-pot to the 7 Gal. NOW actually looking
forward to seeing if that could of been a factor in my earlier issues

EDIT: Since I will be running 2 side by side I can run my FUBAR test
on the second one (slow water)

 

[Gazoo]

Cool looks like my 1 Gal Square pots will be here by the end of the day tomorrow,

Scheduled Delivery:

Tuesday, 11/07/2017 , By End of Day

Last Location:

Arrived - Oakland, CA, United States, Monday, 11/06/2017

everything is moving forward smoothly

 

[Doc Bud]

Can do, Back to the basics THANKS.
Following your lead and process will be best for sure

NOTE:
I have only used the Dunking process for early VEG the
slow watering was after up-pot to the 7 Gal. NOW actually looking
forward to seeing if that could of been a factor in my earlier issues

EDIT: Since I will be running 2 side by side I can run my FUBAR test
on the second one (slow water)

OK.....or we could just grow two nice plants and skip the FUBAR stuff?

 

[Gazoo]

OK.....or we could just grow two nice plants and skip the FUBAR stuff?

Was curious to see the difference with my slow water setup but since I am more
interested in following your specific style I will leave that for a later run
and will simply follow along with the Temple Master, Hoping to grab a few pebbles from the
Masters hand

 

[dynamo1]

Was curious to see the difference with my slow water setup but since I am more
interested in following your specific style I will leave that for a later run
and will simply follow along with the Temple Master, Hoping to grab a few pebbles from the
Masters hand

aahhh weedhopper, quick you must be, with that.--

 

[DopyLemontree]

Was curious to see the difference with my slow water setup but since I am more
interested in following your specific style I will leave that for a later run
and will simply follow along with the Temple Master, Hoping to grab a few pebbles from the
Masters hand

Good call Gazoo! Mimic Doc as closely as you can...I think we will all see it's the small things he does, that make a Huge difference.

 

[Doc Bud]

Was curious to see the difference with my slow water setup but since I am more
interested in following your specific style I will leave that for a later run
and will simply follow along with the Temple Master, Hoping to grab a few pebbles from the
Masters hand

Well, I'm doing this journal with you because I want:

1. you to succeed
2. show others who have had similar problems that the kit works real good
3. how to use the kit
4. possibly how NOT to use the kit.

Slow watering, the way you described it above is problematic for me because it doesn't allow for the rapid drainage/aeration of the roots AND it keeps them very wet for a long time.

The idea behind dunking is to saturate AND THEN DRAIN the medium. Your slow watering method will saturate all right....but it won't drain.

This will give you poor roots. I want you to have excellent roots. Like these:

I didn't get those roots with a slow watering system. It might work, it might not....but I know how to get you good roots and healthy plants....which is going to happen.

Let's toss out any variables so we can succeed.

 

[Gazoo]

Well, I'm doing this journal with you because I want:

1. you to succeed
2. show others who have had similar problems that the kit works real good
3. how to use the kit
4. possibly how NOT to use the kit.

Slow watering, the way you described it above is problematic for me because it doesn't allow for the rapid drainage/aeration of the roots AND it keeps them very wet for a long time.

The idea behind dunking is to saturate AND THEN DRAIN the medium. Your slow watering method will saturate all right....but it won't drain.

This will give you poor roots. I want you to have excellent roots. Like these:

I didn't get those roots with a slow watering system. It might work, it might not....but I know how to get you good roots and healthy plants....which is going to happen.

Let's toss out any variables so we can succeed.

i am absolutely on board with all you have said, we don't need any differences.
And I THANK YOU for keeping me on track. Its very hard to unlearn but I am fully
aware of the need to do so

I am planning on walking through the mine field in you exact steps so as not to
step on one Everything I do will be posted in advance so anything not approved
should be able to be corrected in advance.


SIDE NOTE: I have noticed it does take a period of time to dry fully, 3 days
after doing a 1 gal slow water in my 7 gal plastic pots.

 

[Doc Bud]

i am absolutely on board with all you have said, we don't need any differences.
And I THANK YOU for keeping me on track. Its very hard to unlearn but I am fully
aware of the need to do so

I am planning on walking through the mine field in you exact steps so as not to
step on one Everything I do will be posted in advance so anything not approved
should be able to be corrected in advance.


SIDE NOTE: I have noticed it does take a period of time to dry fully, 3 days
after doing a 1 gal slow water in my 7 gal plastic pots.

It might not matter much in bloom, between your slow watering and the saucers I recommend. The main difference is going to be seen in veg....where the method I'm going to show you will result in air being drawn into the soil.

Properly vegged plants grow up into properly flowering plants....so we're going to start off right.

When you have 2 or 3 successfull cycles then you can start experimenting with alternate methods. First you need to see that the money you spent on my gear was well spent....

 

[SweetSue]

And we're all gonna follow along like faithful little students. I'm considering dropping a seed with you and following along step-by-step. Reading only accomplishes so much. True learning is in the doing, and the best learning is in the doing it correctly. Let's see if you can finally teach us all to grow roots like yours Doc.

 

[Doc Bud]

And we're all gonna follow along like faithful little students. I'm considering dropping a seed with you and following along step-by-step. Reading only accomplishes so much. True learning is in the doing, and the best learning is in the doing it correctly. Let's see if you can finally teach us all to grow roots like yours Doc.

No problem. Easy. Just follow along and be patient.

 

[Van Stank]

Very interested to watch this grow unfold. Hopefully I can pick up a trick or two that I can steal and use in my own soil grows.

By the way Doc, very cool that you are taking your time to do a grow with one of your customers. Says a lot about the kind of business man you are and what your product means to you.

If I ever decide to grow in anything but my own soil, I might give you a try.

 

[Gazoo]

It might not matter much in bloom, between your slow watering and the saucers I recommend. The main difference is going to be seen in veg....where the method I'm going to show you will result in air being drawn into the soil.

Properly vegged plants grow up into properly flowering plants....so we're going to start off right.

When you have 2 or 3 successfull cycles then you can start experimenting with alternate methods. First you need to see that the money you spent on my gear was well spent....

Roots have always been a problem for me just can't seem to get them like
that before up-potting, most likely due to my earlier use of 2 Gal Felt pots,
my watering approach and I am sure other factors. You are going to fix
that for me I am sure

As for the cost

I have no complaint, the money spent is so minimal compared to other products on the market
especially when I consider the extra's I no longer need (Ph products, ppm & test meters)
along with time saved and NOW a personnel course in using the kit, Really can't put
a value on that so even if this is a total bust (can't imagine that) I have already gotten
my moneys worth with extras

 

[Doc Bud]

Very interested to watch this grow unfold. Hopefully I can pick up a trick or two that I can steal and use in my own soil grows.

By the way Doc, very cool that you are taking your time to do a grow with one of your customers. Says a lot about the kind of business man you are and what your product means to you.

If I ever decide to grow in anything but my own soil, I might give you a try.

A week or two ago, when all of a sudden there was a chorus of negative things said about my gear I sprang into action. Called the lab, Premier.....no changes or problems. Checked with my customers who have large grows....no problems. WTF?

So, it came down to a few common factors shared by the people who were having problems:

1. Fabric pots
2. Transplanting too early and too often
3. Skipping Transplant drench in Veg

there were a few other scattered individual problems as well, but this combination, coupled with poor gardening technique especially with regard to watering and the complaints about my product support led me to do this.

I'll walk Gazoo through the process, step by step. Anyone who wants to follow along is most welcome. I'm going to show exactly what I do and hopefully explain why. Then, instead of a half dozen interpretations of directions, we can all see what I intend to mean when I say things like, "Dunk them and drain them."

But the thing that stung me worst of all was when someone said my product support was poor.

I don't think you'll find too many companies that offer the level of support that we're going to see on this journal! At least that's my goal.

Hopefully, in the future when groupthink leads people astray, we can always point them to this journal. But first, I've got to get Gazoo up and running.....so here goes!

 

[Doc Bud]

Roots have always been a problem for me just can't seem to get them like
that before up-potting, most likely due to my earlier use of 2 Gal Felt pots,
my watering approach and I am sure other factors. You are going to fix
that for me I am sure

As for the cost

I have no complaint, the money spent is so minimal compared to other products on the market
especially when I consider the extra's I no longer need (Ph products, ppm & test meters)
along with time saved and NOW a personnel course in using the kit, Really can't put
a value on that so even if this is a total bust (can't imagine that) I have already gotten
my moneys worth with extras

This will not be a bust, Gazoo. Your plants are going to shine....

Lights: check
Environment: check
Soil cook: check

I don't see how this doesn't work as long as you simply copy me. Hopefully, everything will make sense.

 

[Van Stank]

A week or two ago, when all of a sudden there was a chorus of negative things said about my gear I sprang into action. Called the lab, Premier.....no changes or problems. Checked with my customers who have large grows....no problems. WTF?

So, it came down to a few common factors shared by the people who were having problems:

1. Fabric pots
2. Transplanting too early and too often
3. Skipping Transplant drench in Veg

there were a few other scattered individual problems as well, but this combination, coupled with poor gardening technique especially with regard to watering and the complaints about my product support led me to do this.

I'll walk Gazoo through the process, step by step. Anyone who wants to follow along is most welcome. I'm going to show exactly what I do and hopefully explain why. Then, instead of a half dozen interpretations of directions, we can all see what I intend to mean when I say things like, "Dunk them and drain them."

But the thing that stung me worst of all was when someone said my product support was poor.

I don't think you'll find too many companies that offer the level of support that we're going to see on this journal! At least that's my goal.

Hopefully, in the future when groupthink leads people astray, we can always point them to this journal. But first, I've got to get Gazoo up and running.....so here goes!

That was kind of my point Doc, I don't see that level of support and as I said, I am impressed. Seems like in a world where very few companies want to stand by their products and show what they can do and how to use them, you are putting yours to action for everyone to see. Very refreshing. I kind of wondered what your reaction was going to be when the issues with the kits surfaced, nice to see you take this route.

 

[Gazoo]

This will not be a bust, Gazoo. Your plants are going to shine....

Lights: check
Environment: check
Soil cook: check

I don't see how this doesn't work as long as you simply copy me. Hopefully, everything will make sense.

Oh maybe I need to add

I am not expecting a Bust, actually quite the opposite. Just my way of saying
the money spent was/is well worth the cost no matter what the result.

Sorry that did sound a little negative but certainly not my intent, I am expecting
a GREAT Result

 

[Doc Bud]

That was kind of my point Doc, I don't see that level of support and as I said, I am impressed. Seems like in a world where very few companies want to stand by their products and show what they can do and how to use them, you are putting yours to action for everyone to see. Very refreshing. I kind of wondered what your reaction was going to be when the issues with the kits surfaced, nice to see you take this route.

Just to be clear, there is no issue with the kits. Never was.

Several folks using fabric pots, skipping Transplant drench, not getting good roots, injuring those substandard roots by transplanting too often and the doing the same thing with 2 more transplants AND not watering properly is the issue.

We'll soon see how to do it right!

 

[Jgrowlove]

What are the issues with fabric pots?? I've always used them.