Doc Bud's High Brix Q&A With Pictures

[Buckshot317]

Top pick is cvc

 

[Gazoo]

I think I've only used destress once or twice on this run. Mostly used it for my clones.

I get some pics up later, but I don't think couple of my girls liked the super drench. But still learning, when I run these again they should turn out way better

. Huck kush


Also just about to release some ladybugs, this grow has been aggravating being gone whole time, couldn't get them wiped out. Got predator mites coming too, then gonna drop bunch of foggers when I chop these. Tired of messing with em lol

I just read this post and did not look below so this may have been mentioned

I have found the best way to use the KRAKEN (LADY BUGS) is to build them a home so they
don't all disappear in a few days.

Items needed a CLONE TRAY and the clear TOP with the adjustable air vents on top
One Sponge, a NATURAL sponge is best, NOTHING factory added to the sponge like special cleaner
One small box of RAISINS

Place the container of Lady bugs in the tray, I empty it in the bottom of the tray and leave
all the hay/wood chips or whatever they put in with the Lady bugs in the tray, gives the
Lady Bugs a place to hide from the Light and heat.

Place the wet Sponge in the tray, this is the WATER supply for your Lady Bugs you will need
check it every so often to make sure it has not dried out.

Trough a handful of RAISINS in the tray as well, this is there Food. Note I put them in a small
opened container, Have found they will ferment and get sticky making them hard to replace
which you may want to do once they start to get funky.

Last put the cover on the Tray, Open the top vents just enough to let the smartest ones out.
This will control the release, The Lady Bugs will multiply in there home and last a very long time.
I add them mid to late Veg and they will still be some at end of flower.


EDIT: I have also used the Predatory Mites as well, NOTE be careful
when applying during flower, I just tossed them on top of my plants and then realized
all the small wood chips they pack in with the Mites got stuck to all my BUDS what a mess.

 

[BrixNewb]

You're spraying too much, based on what you said in the last 3 pages of your journal. DeStress twice a week plus Brix plus WA. That's too much unless you've got a totally thriving, sprinting monster of a plant. That alone could be your problem.

Remember, I only use SnakeOil (slightly different, but basically the same as WA) once or twice ON CERTAIN STRAINS. I've made that pretty clear, many times. But for some reason many folks seem to take that as meaning "spray every time, twice a week with Snake Oil."

Cut back on the foliars, especially if you've got more than one run on the soil. I think that's your trouble.

Maybe just follow the basic directions:



Every week to 10 days. also note the second to last paragraph: " If the plants are always stressed something else is wrong." I guess I should have said not to keep spraying twice a week when it isn't working.....

On your next run, please post a pic on my journal, saying:

what you did last time (drench, spray, water)
how many days since last drench,spray, water

I'll help you get it right. I'm almost in tears right now thinking your going to actually use bottled nutes......HB is so much better it's just killing me!

With the sprays the instructions state:

Brix: "Sprayed every week to 10 days.....Brix foliar should not be skipped"
De-Stress: "This can be sprayed 1-2 times per week when there are signs of plant stress. "

So with my stressed plants I was simply following these two sentences. Also I had some evidence of mites from an outside garden, so I was following previous instructions to "blast them with the foliars" but I see I am spraying too much, I will back off. I just recently started spraying twice a week, only about a week or so.

I can admit that with issues I am probably a bit late catching them, it's something I am aware of, but don't seem to make much progress with. In the past it's either soil energy going flat or unhappy roots, and the fix is to De-Stress or Rescue Drench. That's the next thing I have planned for these girls, all of which had Growth, 1/4 Trans water, and Transplant Drench most recently:

I know it's something that I am doing wrong, everyone else is knocking the kit out of the park, even for beginning growers, so I don't blame the kit. I figured for less than $60 it doesn't hurt to experiment. I have a total of 4 DBHB kits, so the kit isn't going anywhere.

 

[Mag7]

Doc Bud - High Brix Q&A With Pictures

With the sprays the instructions state:

Brix: "Sprayed every week to 10 days.....Brix foliar should not be skipped"
De-Stress: "This can be sprayed 1-2 times per week when there are signs of plant stress. "

So with my stressed plants I was simply following these two sentences. Also I had some evidence of mites from an outside garden, so I was following previous instructions to "blast them with the foliars" but I see I am spraying too much, I will back off. I just recently started spraying twice a week, only about a week or so.

I can admit that with issues I am probably a bit late catching them, it's something I am aware of, but don't seem to make much progress with. In the past it's either soil energy going flat or unhappy roots, and the fix is to De-Stress or Rescue Drench. That's the next thing I have planned for these girls, all of which had Growth, 1/4 Trans water, and Transplant Drench most recently:

I know it's something that I am doing wrong, everyone else is knocking the kit out of the park, even for beginning growers, so I don't blame the kit. I figured for less than $60 it doesn't hurt to experiment. I have a total of 4 DBHB kits, so the kit isn't going anywhere.

When blasting with foliars did you cut it by half or even a quarter strength? Full strength destress is very strong, be careful with it!!


EDIT:
I think a rescue Drench is what is next. The soils energy looks like it's gone flat so you have in happy roots. Yup, that's what is very common. IMO, just me tho, my grow came from an early about of over watering. That made my soil go flat. Once I did a transplant to bigger pots with good soil they were good to go with no rescue Drench. But if you don't plan to up pot do the RD.

 

[Gazoo]

I know it's something that I am doing wrong, everyone else is knocking the kit out of the park, even for beginning growers, so I don't blame the kit. I figured for less than $60 it doesn't hurt to experiment. I have a total of 4 DBHB kits, so the kit isn't going anywhere.

Those look just like my FUBAR Plant at this point, Since its my experimental plant its probably
something I did or not do. I did a Rescue DRENCH and also a SUPER DRENCH no improvement but
I can say she is still flowing very well and even has a sweeter aroma than my DIRECTION ONLY KIT
run. Not sure what I could of done but not going to sweet it since I have recently run out of my
personnel supply so if she does not GET HER ACT in order she will be my new supply

 

[TheGreenYeti]

I am sure soil energy has to do with it. Usually my plants do not get to that point but with my infrequent feedings in veg I do tend to have plants that do not look as good as others. I have found that up potting tends to usually make them look better.

 

[Doc Bud]

With the sprays the instructions state:

Brix: "Sprayed every week to 10 days.....Brix foliar should not be skipped"
De-Stress: "This can be sprayed 1-2 times per week when there are signs of plant stress. "

So with my stressed plants I was simply following these two sentences. Also I had some evidence of mites from an outside garden, so I was following previous instructions to "blast them with the foliars" but I see I am spraying too much, I will back off. I just recently started spraying twice a week, only about a week or so.

I can admit that with issues I am probably a bit late catching them, it's something I am aware of, but don't seem to make much progress with. In the past it's either soil energy going flat or unhappy roots, and the fix is to De-Stress or Rescue Drench. That's the next thing I have planned for these girls, all of which had Growth, 1/4 Trans water, and Transplant Drench most recently:

I know it's something that I am doing wrong, everyone else is knocking the kit out of the park, even for beginning growers, so I don't blame the kit. I figured for less than $60 it doesn't hurt to experiment. I have a total of 4 DBHB kits, so the kit isn't going anywhere.

Based on what you said and those pics, here's what I woul do:

Trim off lower leaves and branches.
Stop foliars for two weeks.

Let the soil dry out and carefully follow this next part to the letter.....

Soak the pots in pure water for ten minutes. While it is soaking prepare enough rescue drench to give each plant a quart.


After the 10 minute soak begin to tilt the pot this way and that to drain it. When it stops dripping, slowly pour the quart of Rescue Drench down the top. Wait till it all soaks in and then tilt the pot this way and that and put it back under the lights.

A full recovery is likely. .

 

[BrixNewb]

When blasting with foliars did you cut it by half or even a quarter strength? Full strength destress is very strong, be careful with it!!


EDIT:
I think a rescue Drench is what is next. The soils energy looks like it's gone flat so you have in happy roots. Yup, that's what is very common. IMO, just me tho, my grow came from an early about of over watering. That made my soil go flat. Once I did a transplant to bigger pots with good soil they were good to go with no rescue Drench. But if you don't plan to up pot do the RD.

With Brix+WA10X they were full, De-Stress was about half. I agree with you and it seems Doc does as well, Rescue Drench here we come! I think my watering is good, maybe a little too dry if anything. They have a little way to go so I am going to RD as Doc prescribed below.

Those look just like my FUBAR Plant at this point, Since its my experimental plant its probably
something I did or not do. I did a Rescue DRENCH and also a SUPER DRENCH no improvement but
I can say she is still flowing very well and even has a sweeter aroma than my DIRECTION ONLY KIT
run. Not sure what I could of done but not going to sweet it since I have recently run out of my
personnel supply so if she does not GET HER ACT in order she will be my new supply

I feel you there. I try to bring everyone to the finish line and honestly, so far the kit hasn't let me down. I have had a couple plants yield 2 ounces despite being normal size, but I blame genetics. No matter how FUBAR my plants have looked, they always come through with top quality smoke, so that's why I don't honestly stress too much or worry about my plants looking crappy.

I am sure soil energy has to do with it. Usually my plants do not get to that point but with my infrequent feedings in veg I do tend to have plants that do not look as good as others. I have found that up potting tends to usually make them look better.

I agree with you there, upcanning helps them back online with the new soil. These have a bit to go in the current 1 gallon nursery pots, so it's time to Drench them.

Based on what you said and those pics, here's what I woul do:

Trim off lower leaves and branches.
Stop foliars for two weeks.

Let the soil dry out and carefully follow this next part to the letter.....

Soak the pots in pure water for ten minutes. While it is soaking prepare enough rescue drench to give each plant a quart.


After the 10 minute soak begin to tilt the pot this way and that to drain it. When it stops dripping, slowly pour the quart of Rescue Drench down the top. Wait till it all soaks in and then tilt the pot this way and that and put it back under the lights.

A full recovery is likely. .

Awesome Doc, I appreciate it and will follow your advice to the letter. I am all ears when it comes to advice, I just feeling a bit slow when I am in here asking for advice without much improvement. I believe my attentiveness is the problem. Also, the flowering plants with the claw and what I believe is N toxicity aren't pictured here as the lights were out. I will limp them in here later and get your opinion. Thanks again!

 

[Doc Bud]

Re: Doc Bud - High Brix Q&A With Pictures

With Brix+WA10X they were full, De-Stress was about half. I agree with you and it seems Doc does as well, Rescue Drench here we come! I think my watering is good, maybe a little too dry if anything. They have a little way to go so I am going to RD as Doc prescribed below.



I feel you there. I try to bring everyone to the finish line and honestly, so far the kit hasn't let me down. I have had a couple plants yield 2 ounces despite being normal size, but I blame genetics. No matter how FUBAR my plants have looked, they always come through with top quality smoke, so that's why I don't honestly stress too much or worry about my plants looking crappy.



I agree with you there, upcanning helps them back online with the new soil. These have a bit to go in the current 1 gallon nursery pots, so it's time to Drench them.



Awesome Doc, I appreciate it and will follow your advice to the letter. I am all ears when it comes to advice, I just feeling a bit slow when I am in here asking for advice without much improvement. I believe my attentiveness is the problem. Also, the flowering plants with the claw and what I believe is N toxicity aren't pictured here as the lights were out. I will limp them in here later and get your opinion. Thanks again!

Recently I was trying to help another grower who was doing everything perfectly, but his ozone generator was killing his plants. I had no idea what the problem was, but at some point it was discovered by attrition. He got rid of it and health returned.

It makes me wonder if you have some off the wall issue? What kind of lighting do you use?

 

[BrixNewb]

Re: Doc Bud - High Brix Q&A With Pictures

Recently I was trying to help another grower who was doing everything perfectly, but his ozone generator was killing his plants. I had no idea what the problem was, but at some point it was discovered by attrition. He got rid of it and health returned.

It makes me wonder if you have some off the wall issue? What kind of lighting do you use?

Nothing I can think of. This has been consistent across two different locations, I moved the grow a couple months ago. I have no odd appliances, no air purifiers of any sort. Electric central heat and air supplemented by a window unit. Lighting is CXB COBs in bloom, Vero 29 in veg. Temps at canopy are averaging 79, humidity during lights on is in the 50s, a little high during lights off creeping into the 60s, sometimes low 70s, but so far it hasn't been an issue.

 

[Doc Bud]

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Nothing I can think of. This has been consistent across two different locations, I moved the grow a couple months ago. I have no odd appliances, no air purifiers of any sort. Electric central heat and air supplemented by a window unit. Lighting is CXB COBs in bloom, Vero 29 in veg. Temps at canopy are averaging 79, humidity during lights on is in the 50s, a little high during lights off creeping into the 60s, sometimes low 70s, but so far it hasn't been an issue.

Actually, humidity that high in the dark cycle will stress the plants out. What are your night temps?

I also wonder about the lights. I really know very little about LED, even though I grow a tray under LED all the time. But I do know my products, and they should be performing much better for you.

 

[BrixNewb]

At night temps are around 70 degrees with that high humidity.

Lights shouldn't be an issue, they grow great bud for others.

Here are pics of the two that I believe have Nitrogen toxicity, but I am going to guess it's from too much foliar feeding with WA10X when not needed:

 

[Mag7]

At night temps are around 70 degrees with that high humidity.

Lights shouldn't be an issue, they grow great bud for others.

Here are pics of the two that I believe have Nitrogen toxicity, but I am going to guess it's from too much foliar feeding with WA10X when not needed:

Ok BN, this first plant looks exactly like my Purple Peyote. The roots system is really underperforming. She has signs of over water with the leaf curl and the leaves look like to much foliar a, just as Doc said, let her dry out real real good. This plant or strain more than likely isn't a big drinker like the others. I learned the hard way. I would follow doc directions but I would in future try cutting the feeding by .25 of what you have been feeding before and see how she performs. Just my thoughts, as someone once said "I never Know". I'm just a dude pretending to be a another dude pretending to be a grower .

 

[Doc Bud]

At night temps are around 70 degrees with that high humidity.

Lights shouldn't be an issue, they grow great bud for others.

Here are pics of the two that I believe have Nitrogen toxicity, but I am going to guess it's from too much foliar feeding with WA10X when not needed:

I think you'll improve a great deal if you spray less often and only use Snake Oil (or in your case WA) once or twice.

In runs two and three on the soil, I cut my foliars back to every 2 weeks at times. First run once a week to every ten days, depending on the plant.

 

[Buckshot317]

I really think I've been over feeding also, in foliars and drenches. Doing this new run slower

 

[Doc Bud]

I really think I've been over feeding also, in foliars and drenches. Doing this new run slower

It's unlikely that you're overfeeding with drenches. Foliars, on the other hand, are absorbed up to 60 times better than drenches, so it is a bit easier to over use them.....but it takes a while, like 3x a week for a month.

On the hungriest, healthiest plants, spray weekly. More sensitive, finicky strains spray every ten days.

If they show signs of stress after a couple DeStress applications, there's something else wrong.

 

[Buckshot317]

I've been doing foliars like you just mentioned. But this last run I never gave a trans drench until right before flip.

I don't think my girls liked the super drench. All but sour strawberry had bunch of leaves turn yellow. Now I wish I didn't give, but I did learn, will be ready when I run the clones. Ill get pics tonight.

After test results I am left with 5-8 females for the testers from strayfox.

. These are going into flower as soon as current girls finish

 

[Doc Bud]

I've been doing foliars like you just mentioned. But this last run I never gave a trans drench until right before flip.

I don't think my girls liked the super drench. All but sour strawberry had bunch of leaves turn yellow. Now I wish I didn't give, but I did learn, will be ready when I run the clones. Ill get pics tonight.

After test results I am left with 5-8 females for the testers from strayfox.

. These are going into flower as soon as current girls finish

You can grow your plants very well, start to harvest with nothing but GE. However, they'll grow much better and have a nicer terpene profile if you alternate drenches.

The problem with not using any Transplant during veg, and not doing it at Transplant is that when you give the Cat Drench (mostly Transplant) the biota will be getting strange food....something they haven't had before.

Alternate drenches in veg too, but emphasize GE more, for stem strength.

 

[Mag7]

It's unlikely that you're overfeeding with drenches. Foliars, on the other hand, are absorbed up to 60 times better than drenches, so it is a bit easier to over use them.....but it takes a while, like 3x a week for a month.

On the hungriest, healthiest plants, spray weekly. More sensitive, finicky strains spray every ten days.

If they show signs of stress after a couple DeStress applications, there's something else wrong.

Doc, I noticed my root system after harvest was not very root bound, nowhere near in fact. I also just harvested a hermied plant and finally got to checking out the roots and as well not what I was expecting to see and no pics. I'm wondering if I'm not letting them dry out long enough still (in veg and after transplanting). Giving the destress definitely caused more stress in the last grow and when I used it the two times during this grow I began to see the same results. I think I'm to far into flower to try and let them get to dry but if the roots look weak after harvest I'll know I've been doing something wrong. I personally feel it has to do with my watering, but dang it, the only thing I see that shows that is the small flowers on the two plants. The other plant has fat flowers so I suspect she'll have a better root system. Hmmm

 

[overlord]

Doc, I noticed my root system after harvest was not very root bound, nowhere near in fact. I also just harvested a hermied plant and finally got to checking out the roots and as well not what I was expecting to see and no pics. I'm wondering if I'm not letting them dry out long enough still (in veg and after transplanting). Giving the destress definitely caused more stress in the last grow and when I used it the two times during this grow I began to see the same results. I think I'm to far into flower to try and let them get to dry but if the roots look weak after harvest I'll know I've been doing something wrong. I personally feel it has to do with my watering, but dang it, the only thing I see that shows that is the small flowers on the two plants. The other plant has fat flowers so I suspect she'll have a better root system. Hmmm

I forget did you use smart pots? They don't develop the same kind of roots due to the air pruning.