Doc Bud's High Brix Q&A With Pictures

[Duggan]

Sue, please hold off on that SD OK! Your girl SHOULD NOT need one. No reason for a SD just yet! let her dry out (posted on your journal)really good and give her a big drink of just water , OK! Not until she is thirsty though OK! At first glance it does look like overwatering but you say this can't be right? I'm almost certain it's a strain related trait, because everything else is good and proper ! Cheers !

 

[SweetSue]

Will do Duggan.

 

[Doc Bud]

Alright gang, I have a mystery. My Carnival, at day 89, nine days into her flip. A while ago she started expressing this curve to her leaves.

By all other accounts this is a happy plant growing in good soil. All her drenches have been on schedule, and she's received regular Brix foliars and DeStress when it was called for. Any thoughts on what I'm dealing with or suggestions on what to do to help her get through whatever she's caught in?

Here's and overhead shot to give you a sense of her scope. She's filling a 2x2 tent.

That sort of formation of leaves isn't uncommon in early bloom on some Sativa strains. Straight water next time....then after that do a Rescue Drench. Do not spray any foliars for at least 10 days. Increase day and night temps about 2 degrees if possible: IE instead of 66/76 to to 68/78. Or 72/80 or whatever. Just try to increase two degrees. the leaves should straighten out in a week or so. Everything else will be just fine, including buds and resin.

Why? Because of salt buildup in the soil, mainly from the foliars coupled with a plant that has slightly low metabolism. INcreasing temps just a tad will fix it.

 

[SweetSue]

That sort of formation of leaves isn't uncommon in early bloom on some Sativa strains. Straight water next time....then after that do a Rescue Drench. Do not spray any foliars for at least 10 days. Increase day and night temps about 2 degrees if possible: IE instead of 66/76 to to 68/78. Or 72/80 or whatever. Just try to increase two degrees. the leaves should straighten out in a week or so. Everything else will be just fine, including buds and resin.

Why? Because of salt buildup in the soil, mainly from the foliars coupled with a plant that has slightly low metabolism. INcreasing temps just a tad will fix it.

Thank you so much Doc. The boys talked me down and this helped tremendously. ,

 

[SunWorshiper]

 

[medmanmike]

Doc and fellow HBers,

Any idea what's going on with these two seedlings? Both from seed, started in 4" pots, transplanted 5 days ago to 1 gal, both received a 1/4 Tp and light Tea drench at transplant. Both were sprayed with 1/2 strength Stress at transplant. Today is day 11 of 18/6.

First pic is Blue Dream, second is Northern Lights. Note the yellowing of the leaf ridges on the newer growth and the purple stems on the Blue Dream. NL is showing purple stems also. Sister plants of the same strains are fine. I noticed today that both plants are showing (a few) roots emerging from the bottom drain holes of the 1 gal pots, so they're growing. Any ideas? Thx.

 

[medmanmike]

Hey Walleye, welcome to the forum! Lots of Michiganders lurking about here, yours truly included,

You've got to believe that after paying $100k or so for the lisence, insurance, start up costs, etc., that the 1500 plant growers WILL spray WHATEVER is necessary to get the crop to market.

I just hope the legislature doesnt kill home grows for the current medical patients/caregivers...

 

[Cannatard]

Doc and fellow HBers,

Any idea what's going on with these two seedlings? Both from seed, started in 4" pots, transplanted 5 days ago to 1 gal, both received a 1/4 Tp and light Tea drench at transplant. Both were sprayed with 1/2 strength Stress at transplant. Today is day 11 of 18/6.

First pic is Blue Dream, second is Northern Lights. Note the yellowing of the leaf ridges on the newer growth and the purple stems on the Blue Dream. NL is showing purple stems also. Sister plants of the same strains are fine. I noticed today that both plants are showing (a few) roots emerging from the bottom drain holes of the 1 gal pots, so they're growing. Any ideas? Thx.

How much ewc did you add to the soil initially? What run is that soil? Are you letting them dry out between waterings/feedings? Looks like the start of a N deficiency. Id go with a minor rescue drench and a bit of ewc, say a quarter cup. Maybe 10 mils of transplant and 2 mils of tea to each plant. Get those little buggers processing some of of that ewc. Thats what id do.

 

[Doc Bud]

Doc and fellow HBers,

Any idea what's going on with these two seedlings? Both from seed, started in 4" pots, transplanted 5 days ago to 1 gal, both received a 1/4 Tp and light Tea drench at transplant. Both were sprayed with 1/2 strength Stress at transplant. Today is day 11 of 18/6.

First pic is Blue Dream, second is Northern Lights. Note the yellowing of the leaf ridges on the newer growth and the purple stems on the Blue Dream. NL is showing purple stems also. Sister plants of the same strains are fine. I noticed today that both plants are showing (a few) roots emerging from the bottom drain holes of the 1 gal pots, so they're growing. Any ideas? Thx.

Hi Mike.

They look like they might be a tad cold. Are they in a cooler spot in the room perhaps? This time of year it's very common the have changes in the growing environment.

Does this make sense or shall we consider how many runs you have on the soil? That would be my second "guess."

 

[Doc Bud]

here is some of my first hibrix plants ever for me. Thanks for taking my medicine to the highest level Doc!

Absolutely gorgeous! How's the quality? Feeback?

 

[SunWorshiper]

 

[SunWorshiper]

 

[SunWorshiper]

Ok sorry everyone for the fumbling. My phone had a mind of its own lol. Also I messed up in the original post. I posted pics of my bubblechem which is not highbrix. It's the purple plant. The rest are high brix. DOC I haven't tried the brix yet it's about to get jarred. But so far in aroma and looks it is better than the non highbrix same strain. The bud wash was amazing. I have early sampled the bubblechem grown in earth juice that was bud washed. Smooth even for not cured bud. I'm a fan of the bud washing no doubt. Kinda hard to take the plunge lol but very impressed with the results. Will keep you posted on the product soon.

 

[medmanmike]

Hi Mike.

They look like they might be a tad cold. Are they in a cooler spot in the room perhaps? This time of year it's very common the have changes in the growing environment.

Does this make sense or shall we consider how many runs you have on the soil? That would be my second "guess."

Doc and Cannatard, temps are 76-80° Daytime, 72-74° lights off. Pots are approx. 24" off the floor. The soil is a mix of ¼ third run and ¾ new. I added a full bag of EWC 15 lbs, a hand full of Rootss!, Doc's Ammendment, misc leaves, previous run's root balls, cooked as specified.

The 10 other plants look good. One "reason" may be that when I transplanted from the 4" to the 1 gal, most of the soil/root balls kinda fell apart for a number of the plants. They all had roots poking out the bottom, but obviously not enough to form a ball. My point is that maybe they were shocked from the transplant. Does this make sense?

 

[Doc Bud]

Doc and Cannatard, temps are 76-80° Daytime, 72-74° lights off. Pots are approx. 24" off the floor. The soil is a mix of ¼ third run and ¾ new. I added a full bag of EWC 15 lbs, a hand full of Rootss!, Doc's Ammendment, misc leaves, previous run's root balls, cooked as specified.

The 10 other plants look good. One "reason" may be that when I transplanted from the 4" to the 1 gal, most of the soil/root balls kinda fell apart for a number of the plants. They all had roots poking out the bottom, but obviosly not enough to form a ball. My point is that maybe they were shocked from the transplant. Does this make sense?

Yes, makes total sense. They'll recover nicely.

 

[Cannatard]

Doc and Cannatard, temps are 76-80° Daytime, 72-74° lights off. Pots are approx. 24" off the floor. The soil is a mix of ¼ third run and ¾ new. I added a full bag of EWC 15 lbs, a hand full of Rootss!, Doc's Ammendment, misc leaves, previous run's root balls, cooked as specified.

The 10 other plants look good. One "reason" may be that when I transplanted from the 4" to the 1 gal, most of the soil/root balls kinda fell apart for a number of the plants. They all had roots poking out the bottom, but obviously not enough to form a ball. My point is that maybe they were shocked from the transplant. Does this make sense?

Just as I thought, not enough ewc bro. Id have dumped a whole 30# bag in there. The 1/4 3rd run stuff has just about no N in it any more and 3/4 of a bale of promix needs more than 15 lbs, thats why I always add at least 20/25 lbs more ewc at the end of the 2nd run. I'd say between transplanting too early and an N deficiency. What I said earlier will fix em right up bro, no worries

 

[DrZiggy]

Doc, did you get to post some of your new techniques? I saw you mentioned some things a few weeks ago.

TY

 

[Theborn420]

I hope this comes out right. If the picture is the wrong orientation my apologies. I'm on day 48 veg. My two Aurora Indica's look ok but the freebie ( the Sativa looking one) has really strong purple stems and the leaves seems to be showing some kind of deficiency.

I started my foliars and GE late in the game at about week 6. This is what they look like now:

Wanted to see what you all thought. Thanks in advance!


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[Baybreeder]

How much ewc did you add to the soil initially? What run is that soil? Are you letting them dry out between waterings/feedings? Looks like the start of a N deficiency. Id go with a minor rescue drench and a bit of ewc, say a quarter cup. Maybe 10 mils of transplant and 2 mils of tea to each plant. Get those little buggers processing some of of that ewc. Thats what id do.

Those top leaves look like start of boron deficiency. Now you just have to figure out why. N hmmmm.

 

[Baybreeder]

That sort of formation of leaves isn't uncommon in early bloom on some Sativa strains. Straight water next time....then after that do a Rescue Drench. Do not spray any foliars for at least 10 days. Increase day and night temps about 2 degrees if possible: IE instead of 66/76 to to 68/78. Or 72/80 or whatever. Just try to increase two degrees. the leaves should straighten out in a week or so. Everything else will be just fine, including buds and resin.

Why? Because of salt buildup in the soil, mainly from the foliars coupled with a plant that has slightly low metabolism. INcreasing temps just a tad will fix it.

Your plants are simply getting too much nitrogen