Doc Bud's High Brix Q&A With Pictures

[Doc Bud]

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Hey you guys using the late bloom cat drench - is that the last feeding and water till chop? Or finish on transplant or energy? I was thinking week 7 transplant, water, cat drench, water, then.....? Seems like a 8 week strain might go 10 in HB so this is all assuming something like that/adjust per situation.

I always like to finish on Energy....gives a sweet taste due to the calcium. That's how you get the sugars up.
The late Cat drench really turns up the potency and all the sulfur gives bloom to a few more terpenes and I swear it makes it more potent. Gotta get that stuff tested!

So, I prefer the last feeding to be Energy, it also bulks things up.

 

[Doc Bud]

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what is the ppm of your Energy with Calcium Nitrate and fishy fertilizers once it is mixed up for application?

I have no idea....never checked. I just pour it in now....I know how big a splash to make with it...don't even use a measuring glass anymore.

 

[Curso]

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I always like to finish on Energy....gives a sweet taste due to the calcium. That's how you get the sugars up.
The late Cat drench really turns up the potency and all the sulfur gives bloom to a few more terpenes and I swear it makes it more potent. Gotta get that stuff tested!

So, I prefer the last feeding to be Energy, it also bulks things up.

I agree. When I finished them on a reproductive cycle they weren't as fat, they were good just not as nice as they could have been.

 

[Doc Bud]

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I agree. When I finished them on a reproductive cycle they weren't as fat, they were good just not as nice as they could have been.

I agree. I was more than a little high last night and came up with this analogy: Arugula. It can be grown to have a really spicy, but delicious flavor and you can use it for a salad....or it can be so pungent and "arugula'ey" it can't be enjoyed, even though it has 10 times the "flavor." Finally, it can be grown so it tastes blah, has zero nutritional value, etc.

I'm finding that there's a level of terpene production that really delivers on the flavor and depends on the following factors:

1. types of drenches
2. timing of drenches
3. timing of harvest

I'm really enjoying some stuff taken earlier....like a week or less. Not as "dank" but the terpenes are cleaner and easier to differentiate. The high isn't much different as I have a hard time producing amber triches anymore. There's even pistil growth.....and much new resin production....but the flavors change with harvest timing. I noticed it more after using the late bloom Cat Drench.

Start smelling the plants daily about a week before the early harvest window and note the subtle changes. Good lord, I'm such a friggin snob.....



BTW....here's another crackpot idea:

always add 1/4 strength Transplant to each and every watering and errr slightly to the "light" side on drenches. Transplant is right in the middle between growth and reproduction and it really keeps the soil happy. This way we can alternate between the extremes of Cat and Energy, instead of between Energy and Transplant.

I'm doing this on the Champagne and I've got less stretch and more resin than usual....and usually they look silly with resin. They smell like an organic floral perfume....almost nauseating when the smell hits, but it doesn't make you nauseous at all. Very strange stuff.

Going back to the first run soil helped as well. It's more responsive.

 

[Graytail]

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It's more responsive.

This is the part I'm trying to focus on. Frankly, I'm not really grasping the biochemistry involved and I've been too lazy to put in the time to learn more - I'll get around to it. But the idea of "tuning" works for me. When the soil chemistry is tuned you can produce harmony on command. If it's out of tune, you only can get partial or random harmony.

 

[Curso]

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I love clear/milky for my personal it just such a nice clean high I agree Doc. It makes really, really nice oil too. That stuff if made with later harvested produce really delivers a knockout blow, I no longer need help sleeping. I like to stay awake and enjoy my meds so when I make oil for myself, it's mostly clear and happy in my vape for a good all day smoke.

 

[Doc Bud]

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This is the part I'm trying to focus on. Frankly, I'm not really grasping the biochemistry involved and I've been too lazy to put in the time to learn more - I'll get around to it. But the idea of "tuning" works for me. When the soil chemistry is tuned you can produce harmony on command. If it's out of tune, you only can get partial or random harmony.

When the soil is right, the plant dictates what it eats by releasing root exudates which feed the microbial population. What those critters eat (usually rocks) depends on what the plant signals them to eat.

We can cause the plant to signal "growth" with foliar sprays and we can feed the soil the things that the plant is going to demand if it's growing: Calcium, Nitrate, anions in general.

Or, we can cause the plant to signal "reproduce" with other spays and now if we feed the soil Ammonium, phosphates, sulphates and organic matter (fishes) we're supplying the soil with what the plant is demanding.

Obviously, during the bloom cycle the plants are heavily oriented towards reproduction, but the growth hormones are also quite strong, as evidenced by all the roots and leaves that grow. We can enhance this production by proper soil feeding and foliar spraying.

Now this is the thing that is so important:

If you signal the plant with a foliar spray and the soil can't meet the demand....you've got "deficiencies." If you signal the plant to grow with a foliar spray but you feed the soil the opposite way....you won't get good results either.

The understanding and timing of the sprays is very important!

Bloomit is the most powerful of the sprays, IMO. It's hard not to "break" something when using Bloomit, but it does amazing things by signaling the plant to reproduce. Spray that at the wrong time and you royally F-up.

At the same time, lots of folks like using their homebuilt sprays. What signals--if any-- do these sprays send to the plant?

So, what I'm trying to do is gather data....from myself and other users....in order to get better at growing the best plant on earth. So far, it's working!

 

[Curso]

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Doc, I love when you drop knowledge bombs everyone benefits from them

 

[Love Doc]

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Hello DocBud,

How can i get a kit??? I live in Denmark.
Oh and also, I do not think I will be able to get a hold on the Pro Mix. Do you think this will do for a soil mix?

35 kg. Organic Soil:

Ready-mixed with organic manure and clay. Contents: 35 liters.

Nitrate Value :50-80
Phosphorus Value :150-180

Potassium Value :115-130
Magnesium Value :40-50

Calcium Deposit: at least 180

Dolomite: 6kg / cbm
Granulated clay: 30kg/cbm

Biostimulant 4-1-2:20 kg / cbm
Revenue Grade :45-65 
 PH value of 5.3 to 6.5

To this base I would add:

1 kg. Seaweed meal
1 kg. basalt rock powder
10 kg. mushroom compost
10 kg. topsoil
3 kg. Horse manure
1-2 kg. Leca

Best Regards
The Love Doc

 

[PakaloloHawaii]

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What do you guys think about this possible bloom feed/watering schedule w/ doc new theory - 1/4 strength transplant at every watering, and late flower cat drench:

Transplant 1g-7g veg for one more week, then flip.
Let dry real good for root production
1/4 transplant (soak)
Now keeping medium moist w/ lighter waterings:
Full strength transplant (light water 1gallon)
1/4transplant (light water 1 gallon)
Cat drench (medium water)
Cat drench (light water)
1/4transplant (soak)
Plain Water (light)
Energy (soak)
1/4transplant (light)*
Cat drench (soak)
Plain water (light)*
Finish on Energy (light)
Harvest

*Depending on timing/behavior of strain, maybe can do double watering here

Also, what would be the effects of using brix slightly more often during bloom? maybe once every 5 or 6 days instead of once a week.

 

[Doc Bud]

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Hello DocBud,

How can i get a kit??? I live in Denmark.
Oh and also, I do not think I will be able to get a hold on the Pro Mix. Do you think this will do for a soil mix?

35 kg. Organic Soil:

Ready-mixed with organic manure and clay. Contents: 35 liters.

Nitrate Value :50-80
Phosphorus Value :150-180

Potassium Value :115-130
Magnesium Value :40-50

Calcium Deposit: at least 180

Dolomite: 6kg / cbm
Granulated clay: 30kg/cbm

Biostimulant 4-1-2:20 kg / cbm
Revenue Grade :45-65 
 PH value of 5.3 to 6.5

To this base I would add:

1 kg. Seaweed meal
1 kg. basalt rock powder
10 kg. mushroom compost
10 kg. topsoil
3 kg. Horse manure
1-2 kg. Leca

Best Regards
The Love Doc

The "kit" only goes stateside, among friends. You're a friend....but alas, not stateside.

The soil mix you've listed looks good except I'd prefer to see Calcium Carbonate instead of Dolomite. You want your soil pH at 6.4, almost no exceptions for what we do.

 

[Doc Bud]

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What do you guys think about this possible bloom feed/watering schedule w/ doc new theory - 1/4 strength transplant at every watering, and late flower cat drench:

Transplant 1g-7g veg for one more week, then flip.
Let dry real good for root production
1/4 transplant (soak)
Now keeping medium moist w/ lighter waterings:
Full strength transplant (light water 1gallon)
1/4transplant (light water 1 gallon)
Cat drench (medium water)
Cat drench (light water)
1/4transplant (soak)
Plain Water (light)
Energy (soak)
1/4transplant (light)*
Cat drench (soak)
Plain water (light)*
Finish on Energy (light)
Harvest

*Depending on timing/behavior of strain, maybe can do double watering here

Also, what would be the effects of using brix slightly more often during bloom? maybe once every 5 or 6 days instead of once a week.

Sounds like a solid winner! I hope you'll let us know how it works out.

 

[Love Doc]

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The "kit" only goes stateside, among friends. You're a friend....but alas, not stateside.

The soil mix you've listed looks good except I'd prefer to see Calcium Carbonate instead of Dolomite. You want your soil pH at 6.4, almost no exceptions for what we do.

Thanks you Doc for your fast reply. Too bad it only go state sides, but I am guessing shipping would be too expensive too. ^^
The 35 kg. of organic soil is a premix so it is already containing those numbers of dolomite before adding the rest of the ingridients. So would the 6: 5 :3 ratio of K2CO3, K3PO4, K2SO4 do in any soil, or is that ratio specific for the pro mix hp?

Best Regards
The Love Doc

 

[Doc Bud]

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Thanks you Doc for your fast reply. Too bad it only go state sides, but I am guessing shipping would be too expensive too. ^^
The 35 kg. of organic soil is a premix so it is already containing those numbers of dolomite before adding the rest of the ingridients. So would the 6: 5 :3 ratio of K2CO3, K3PO4, K2SO4 do in any soil, or is that ratio specific for the pro mix hp?

Best Regards
The Love Doc

hah! You use K for Calcium....I always forget that.

The 6-5-3 is an approximation for any soil....but it's just an approximation. Most soils run into trouble due to potassium and sodium being way too high, along with calcium way too low. We can correct the calcium by adding.....but there's no way to get rid of the K short of growing squash in the soil first and re-testing it.

You can still grow nice plants in that soil, don't get me wrong. It just won't have the "magic," we talk about.

 

[Steppenwolf]

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Good discussions Doc! I love the experimenting people are doing with the kit. I went out on a limb a little bit on my feedings and I am pretty excited with the results. I will definitely let you guys know if I stumbled on something great.

 

[Graytail]

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You can still grow nice plants in that soil, don't get me wrong. It just won't have the "magic," we talk about.

As hokey as that may sound, I'm just now experiencing it. I've been smoking my favorite strain that I grew in 6-5-3 mineralized soil, and the new buds I'm testing from Doc's custom amendment are "magic" - really. Aroma and taste are ramped wayyy up. The best pot I have smells stale compared to this stuff - it's that dramatic. And it has more punch, too. It's - different.

 

[Curso]

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As hokey as that may sound, I'm just now experiencing it. I've been smoking my favorite strain that I grew in 6-5-3 mineralized soil, and the new buds I'm testing from Doc's custom amendment are "magic" - really. Aroma and taste are ramped wayyy up. The best pot I have smells stale compared to this stuff - it's that dramatic. And it has more punch, too. It's - different.

Nice!!! I grabbed some Hydro Ak the other day...Man it's awful, it actually gags me after 4 tokes. I guess I am super spoiled with kit weed for the last year.

 

[Doc Bud]

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As hokey as that may sound, I'm just now experiencing it. I've been smoking my favorite strain that I grew in 6-5-3 mineralized soil, and the new buds I'm testing from Doc's custom amendment are "magic" - really. Aroma and taste are ramped wayyy up. The best pot I have smells stale compared to this stuff - it's that dramatic. And it has more punch, too. It's - different.

I know exactly what you mean! Many people think I'm just hyping this.....and then folks like you, Curso, Steppenwolf and others try it and report back a similar story: High Brix weed is different!

Nice!!! I grabbed some Hydro Ak the other day...Man it's awful, it actually gags me after 4 tokes. I guess I am super spoiled with kit weed for the last year.

I'm a horrible snob for a long time now, but my new standards are:

1. Organic
2. Washed

I prefer high brix, but if someone offers me organic, washed bud, I'll smoke some out of politeness. I won't touch mystery hydro weed, or anything that might have been sprayed or adulterated in any way. There's nothing there for me....I don't need the buzz and I certainly don't need the salts, miticides and fungicide residue.

 

[shottafire]

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I have been happy with organic and washed for awhile now. I can't wait til I got the HB wash action going down.

I am shocked at the medicine they offer here in so-cal. All the shops are full of tainted salt filled buds that crackle and burn to a dark black ball. I only visit one place now but if you don't know where to look chances are the crap will give you cancer not prevent it since it is not medicine after the cash cropping greed mongrels have there way with the plant.

I am definitely a snob Im afraid after i go high brix I will be worse.

 

[Curso]

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I have been happy with organic and washed for awhile now. I can't wait til I got the HB wash action going down.

I am shocked at the medicine they offer here in so-cal. All the shops are full of tainted salt filled buds that crackle and burn to a dark black ball. I only visit one place now but if you don't know where to look chances are the crap will give you cancer not prevent it since it is not medicine after the cash cropping greed mongrels have there way with the plant.

I am definitely a snob Im afraid after i go high brix I will be worse.

It's the same here, well at least in my area. I've seen more bad meds than good in most locals here.

I wont be making the choices I made ever again with my personal hb. I kinda sold myself out for more ink on my arm...