Doc Bud's High Brix Q&A With Pictures

[Slowpuffer]

I thought this was the way to go too. Something about the trans prepping the cation sites for the cats...

So Ween, I just did gi, water and am waiting to do 1st. cat. So you're saying that I need to do another td, then another water, then cat ?? This will put me into week 6, and that's getting a little late for the cats, no ??

 

[Slowpuffer]

I personally would do the water still, but you could skip it.

Looking at your plants, I don't see any issue besides a couple of the bottom leaves turning because they aren't getting as much light anymore. I wouldn't worry about them, from the way they look to me.

Also, you give it recharge so early, because it needs time to work. It's similar to the amendment we add and then cook for a month. It needs time to work it's way down into the soil and for the biota to process it, for it to be ready. And truthfully, it's mostly to keep the minerals in check, for when you recook it for the next run.

Thanks Morglie, that makes perfect sense !! I guess I haven't completely ditched my hydro ways yet !! But ween is saying we need to use a tdrench, then water just before the 1st cat. So that's how I will do it, although my buds will be humongous by the time of their 1st cat. something to do with tdrench primes the cation sites, for the cats. And when I look at the schedule chart, that's exactly what it shows But after seeing the schedule that KM has, it's been changed to gi, water, gi and then cats. So now i'm totally confused !! Ha !! Where's Duggan, he'll straighten this shit out !!

 

[weenmeoff]

Ha couldnt be father from it but ok.
Looks like I won't be buying another kit.
Saying use common sense is great if the person has any idea wtf they're doing already.
Megacrop here I come

Wait what? I am not following what you're saying knife. Don't give up on the kit! Ditch the chart and follow the basic directions of alternating drenches.

So Ween, I just did gi, water and am waiting to do 1st. cat. So you're saying that I need to do another td, then another water, then cat ?? This will put me into week 6, and that's getting a little late for the cats, no ??

Puffy. No, as long as you've given some TD, it's ok to do water then cats. Doc just confirmed that. You're good.

 

[Slowpuffer]

The chart that came with my kit says Gi, water Gi, water, cat, cat , water

Yes, that chart is different than mine. mine shows gi, water, td water, cat cat, water.

Trans, water, Cat, Cat, water Growth. That’s how I was told to do it.

And that's how i been doing it, but,

I just seen the new chart that Knifemaker posted. And it's showing gi, water, gi, water, then cat. so this has to be an overnight change ? i received my last chart about a month ago, so shit happens quick around here ?? Which says to me, that the system is still being researched and developed. and that I'm on schedule to do my cat next !! Woopee !!

 

[Slowpuffer]

Wait what? I am not following what you're saying knife. Don't give up on the kit! Ditch the chart and follow the basic directions of alternating drenches.



Puffy. No, as long as you've given some TD, it's ok to do water then cats. Doc just confirmed that. You're good.

Have you seen the new chart, which must be new. It shows gi, water, gi, water, cat, cat, water.

 

[Slowpuffer]

Ha couldnt be father from it but ok.
Looks like I won't be buying another kit.
Saying use common sense is great if the person has any idea wtf they're doing already.
Megacrop here I come

What is Megacrop ??

 

[weenmeoff]

Puffy. You good? Ditch the chart! You can always ask here.

Alternate drenches throughout the entire grow with straight water OR water with 1/4 trans drench between them. So trans>water>gi>water>trans.....etc. Until you hit cats. There is an exception when late in veg, you can double even triple drenches NOT strength but frequency. Ie trans>trans>water>gi>hi.

 

[Slowpuffer]

The chart that came with my kit says Gi, water Gi, water, cat, cat , water

Yes, that's a new chart !! Maybe we need to start dating the charts, when improvements are made, or any change ?? The one thing I find is most members do it differently and I personally haven't seen anyone not pleased with end results. But I'm a lot like you, give me a set of directions, and I will follow. There's got to be a way to explain this, to where we all are on same page. and if there's an overnight change, why not post it here, for all to see? Keep it green !!

 

[weenmeoff]

Puff. Did you see my post?

I certainly did not see your journal until now. Looking pretty great! Heading over to sub up. Gang, join me over at puffs place for a puff or two!

 

[Morglie]

Thanks Morglie, that makes perfect sense !! I guess I haven't completely ditched my hydro ways yet !! But ween is saying we need to use a tdrench, then water just before the 1st cat. So that's how I will do it, although my buds will be humongous by the time of their 1st cat. something to do with tdrench primes the cation sites, for the cats. And when I look at the schedule chart, that's exactly what it shows But after seeing the schedule that KM has, it's been changed to gi, water, gi and then cats. So now i'm totally confused !! Ha !! Where's Duggan, he'll straighten this shit out !!

If it's time for a cat drench, give it to it. Don't worry about which drench you did before it.

Everyone is getting caught up in trying to be super precise and follow the chart. It's there as a guideline as your learning, it's not set in stone. I personally try to give a GI as my last feed before I give the cats, but if it's time to give it a cat, it's time. I don't stress over which was the last one I gave it.

This system is simple and grows decent bud, even when you mess things up. Each plant is different and will react differently. Once you get a feel for how the different drenches and foliars work, then you can dial your plants in better and get excellent produce.

There's a learning curve to it, but truthfully, it's way easier than other systems you're going to find. People tend to want to complicate things, when it's not necessary. Alternate GI and Trans, with a plain water in between, and around 3-4 weeks into flower, give it recharge, EWC, and 2 Cat drenches in a row. Just make sure you give plain water before and after the Cat drenches.

 

[Knifemaker420]

If it's time for a cat drench, give it to it. Don't worry about which drench you did before it.

Everyone is getting caught up in trying to be super precise and follow the chart. It's there as a guideline as your learning, it's not set in stone. I personally try to give a GI as my last feed before I give the cats, but if it's time to give it a cat, it's time. I don't stress over which was the last one I gave it.

This system is simple and grows decent bud, even when you mess things up. Each plant is different and will react differently. Once you get a feel for how the different drenches and foliars work, then you can dial your plants in better and get excellent produce.

There's a learning curve to it, but truthfully, it's way easier than other systems you're going to find. People tend to want to complicate things, when it's not necessary. Alternate GI and Trans, with a plain water in between, and around 3-4 weeks into flower, give it recharge, EWC, and 2 Cat drenches in a row. Just make sure you give plain water before and after the Cat drenches.

Maybe its just me but when the system comes with a chart, the chart should be the correct way to use the system. No experimenting should be necessary. Someone who has never used the kit before like myself has no idea when its time to give the Cat drench, or to just alternate drenches unless you come here and read through almost 24,000 posts. I'm only on my second set of 3 plants ever and just want to be able to follow a set of instructions. I really don't have a clue what the hell I'm doing so when I'm following the included instructions only to find out oh, don't do that, you should be doing it this way. Its super frustrating. Really like the idea of the kit but maybe it's not for me...

 

[PCaddict]

I hate that chart......we included it because people complained that the directions weren't clear. T'hose folks love the chart.....

Alternate drenches. Simple. Water inbetween drenches. Easy. 2 Cats, back to back after bud set.

Don't be afraid to increase drench amounts....especially if the plant looks like it could use it.....common sense.

It really doesn't matter all that much which drenches are given in order, as long as they alternate and as long as there's Transplant in the mix leading up to the Cat Drench series.

If you have doubts about which drench to use, use GI. If the plants look weak...rescue. If they are salt-loving hogs.....Super Drench.

The whole idea of alternating drenches isn't a set-in-stone, rigid practice.....you could do an entire grow using nothing but GI.....or Trans. Alternating them and the timing of when is literally a personal choice.

The feeding schedule we provide is simply an example that will work. Don't get too worked up over it.

I am so glad you posted that As someone who will be starting out I will follow the chart , The chart looks simple to me but I haven't really started yet but, Thank You for the info

 

[Knifemaker420]

Yes, that chart is different than mine. mine shows gi, water, td water, cat cat, water.

And that's how i been doing it, but,

I just seen the new chart that Knifemaker posted. And it's showing gi, water, gi, water, then cat. so this has to be an overnight change ? i received my last chart about a month ago, so shit happens quick around here ?? Which says to me, that the system is still being researched and developed. and that I'm on schedule to do my cat next !! Woopee !!

If you recieved your chart a month ago it'd be newer than mine. I picked up my kit in May

 

[dr.h00k]

...I'd really hate to see you give up the kit so quickly Knife...following either chart will work, as you've seen posted above...experienced brix users change things up a bit sometimes, but following the basic will work if followed...your grow is doing well...no need to get discouraged/frustrated...this is my first run with it and pretty much stuck to the chart, but have changed things up a tad here and there based on my mentors styles and advice, and having followed brix grows for a few years...I remember when Gazoo started, he nearly blew a gasket, but doubt if he will grow any other way now...so whatever you decide...good luck...cheerz... ...h00k......

 

[Knifemaker420]

...I'd really hate to see you give up the kit so quickly Knife...following either chart will work, as you've seen posted above...experienced brix users change things up a bit sometimes, but following the basic will work if followed...your grow is doing well...no need to get discouraged/frustrated...this is my first run with it and pretty much stuck to the chart, but have changed things up a tad here and there based on my mentors styles and advice, and having followed brix grows for a few years...I remember when Gazoo started, he nearly blew a gasket, but doubt if he will grow any other way now...so whatever you decide...good luck...cheerz... ...h00k......

I've still got enough soil to do probably 5 more plants (autos in 5g pots) not sure if the bottles will last that long. I'm a very strict dollower of provided instructions so when I hear from the guy who created the product that the provided instructions suck and I should just be using common sense its frustrating I have no growing sense, common or otherwise lol. Give me proper instructions and I'm a happy guy.

 

[Graytail]

Some of us have been using the Kit for 6 years, and we've read all the posts and watched it all develop. Along the way, we helped beta test the whole system, watched several changes in the formulas, etc.

What the "chart" is, is just a best practices guide. There isn't really a wrong way, but after much experimentation, there's a "best" way, which has changed over time.

I don't actually know what the current best practice is. What I know is that it really doesn't matter. Feed them Trans for the whole grow, or Growth, or even Cat Drench. It's all been tried. It still works "best" if you alternate Growth and Trans, with a water rinse in between. 2 Cats at pistil set, then alternate water and Growth with a Trans thrown in here and there.

But it doesn't really matter. The biota are in control, and we can't examine them. So we just feed 'em, and it almost always goes well.

The chart and the instruction and the schedule, and all the precise stuff, is just to give people a roadmap. You just do the senseless drench/water/drench and watch the plants for the first run. If something goes hinky, you ask one of us what to do. Otherwise, no amount of studying the charts and instructions will help much.

There's no way to screw anything up because you didn't study all the details of the chart. The chart only exists because some users had a hard time grasping the drench/water/drench thing - they wanted a chart. Some people wanted more detail about precisely which drench to use at which times, so there's a schedule.

Drench/water/drench. When the new buds look good, switch the soil charge with the 2 Cats. Go back to drench/water/drench.

Dunno. Seems stupid. Hence the color charts and detailed schedule.

 

[Duggan]

I hate that chart......we included it because people complained that the directions weren't clear. T'hose folks love the chart.....

Alternate drenches. Simple. Water inbetween drenches. Easy. 2 Cats, back to back after bud set.

Don't be afraid to increase drench amounts....especially if the plant looks like it could use it.....common sense.

It really doesn't matter all that much which drenches are given in order, as long as they alternate and as long as there's Transplant in the mix leading up to the Cat Drench series.

If you have doubts about which drench to use, use GI. If the plants look weak...rescue. If they are salt-loving hogs.....Super Drench.

The whole idea of alternating drenches isn't a set-in-stone, rigid practice.....you could do an entire grow using nothing but GI.....or Trans. Alternating them and the timing of when is literally a personal choice.

The feeding schedule we provide is simply an example that will work. Don't get too worked up over it.

Gang, Knifemaker, everyone just wait a friggen min. Holy camoli , !
First , i wanna say , i stopped getting notifications and have fallen behind here. Just all caught up now.
I put Doc's words up here again. I will give my ideas to those who doubt the 'Kit's' simplicity. Number one, whoever has a "chart' toss it...Do not save it, it means nothing! Doc was so tired of trying to answer the same questions over and over again he decided to try and make it easier for those who needed further direction.

The main problem is, it's just too easy. There is NO SET WAY . All one has to do is alternate the Drenches thru grow and bloom. There is NO time limit ...or certain time to do things. There are variables of course. They are,..age of plants, size of pots , amount of usable light, all these things have some bearing on wat to give/feed the soil. There is NO one way, IT DEPENDS!
For example,...if someone just transplanted a wee lil plant into a big pot,...then don't give a heavy Drench .A grower asked me a few grows ago why my plants hadn't received any GI yet. They were already in the big pots for a couple/few weeks. It was because they simply didn't need any, the new soil was full of energy and could support them for many weeks with just straight water and some Trans. So my point is, forget about all the charts and fancy directions. For those who need a Drench schedule, make your own , alternating Drenches. Give a bit of Tea every drink. Let soil dry out between waterings in Veg. and keep it moist thru bloom. The two CD's can be given when buds set,...or much , much later, up to u. With the ReCharge,..later soil runs do not even require it . With runs 1 thru 3 give it about 1/2 way thru bloom...close enough,..hows that . Our system requires regular foliar feeding. Easy peasy. Give Brix every 7 to 10 days . If you are growing a salt lover/heavy eater, then mix in some Snake Oil at 25% of the Brix amount once or twice, no more. . I could go on and on but most of u are already bored so. Hope this has helped ease things up a little . Read Doc's info and thoughts above.

Looks like Gray made it here first.

 

[Graytail]

 

[Darkscotia]

I've still got enough soil to do probably 5 more plants (autos in 5g pots) not sure if the bottles will last that long. I'm a very strict dollower of provided instructions so when I hear from the guy who created the product that the provided instructions suck and I should just be using common sense its frustrating I have no growing sense, common or otherwise lol. Give me proper instructions and I'm a happy guy.

Doc suggest using 7gallon pots minimum I though. Unless things changed in my absents.

 

[Graytail]

And mine are 6 gallons - recently got a 4.5 ounce sativa from one. I also do very well in 3 gallon pots. *shrug*

7+ gallons are better.