Doc Bud's High Brix Q&A With Pictures

[Morglie]

Thanks for the get back Morglie !! I'm playing in 1st. run soil.
I'm mixing 120ml drench into 8 gl. filtered tap water. And the haze has completely stopped yellowing. The SD&BBs are eating every 4 days now, while the haze cross every 6 days. Do you know if it matters which drench is used just before, the 1st cat drench ?? Next drench due is a water, but the way these plants are blooming, I'd like to make the next drench , the cat ?? But, I'd almost swear that I read somewhere, that a water drench is best before the cat ?

Colorado kids answer is the method I try to follow. Cat is similar to Trans, so I try to sandwich the cats between GI drenches, with just a plain watering between.

I always thought it was GI water CAT but could be wrong

 

[Dredd09]

Im sure there's a few mainers using docs kit and they probably are not large. Several local dispensaries are using bottle nutes and harmful pesticides material on their plants. I won't name a local dispensary but there was one company who paid off multiple violations / fines and never made changes to their grow. I doubt large groups would ditch bottle nutes and go for high brix simply because of time and money. They can grow and finish plants in a short amount of time where soil grows like a high brix takes time.

Im on my first run and I'm liking it so far. Ive got another first run kit cooking and it'll be my 2nd time in high brix how about you? Are you in central Maine area?

I am not in Maine right now but I saw this store there and was shocked someone already did this: The Power Plant — High Brix Cannabis :: Maine USA they claim to have minimum brix level of 12.

 

[Mr. Magoo]

Trans, water, Cat, Cat, water Growth. That’s how I was told to do it.

 

[Slowpuffer]

So you're in 10 gallon pots and every time you feed them, they are each getting 2 gallons of water with 30ml of drench added in? That seems a bit on the heavy side for feeding to me, especially for a Haze cross. What run soil are you in? I just got done frying a group of plants in 3rd run thinking they weren't getting enough of the drenchs, when in actuality, it was the opposite.

Then again, bottom leaves turning yellow, normally means they are root bound, but I'm not sure if they react the same in bags. I know some people have had problems with the kit in grow bags, but others have done fine.

Also, it could be your RH depending on how low it gets. 50 is good, but where does it bottom out?

Personally, I'd cut the amount of drench your using in half, and see how they do. You are doing a plain watering between drenches, right?

Hard to get a whole plant pic, without taking one out of tent. And they're heavy with water now. so here's pics. of the some tops and underneath.

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[Amy Gardner]

Don't understand why the soil needs recharged, two weeks since transplant, but I just follow the directions.

Hey Puffer I’ll leave the other questions to the more experienced folks that are already helping you, but on this question - in case you are interested - Doc has posted somewhere in this thread that Recharge is for what happens around week 6 of bloom and to replenish some elements for the next run with the soil.

 

[Slowpuffer]

Colorado kids answer is the method I try to follow. Cat is similar to Trans, so I try to sandwich the cats between GI drenches, with just a plain watering between.

I used TDrench the day I transplanted, then gi, then water, td, gi, and next will be water. What I'm asking is if I could skip this next water and do cat instead ?? if not then I'll do the water.

 

[Slowpuffer]

Hey Puffer I’ll leave the other questions to the more experienced folks that are already helping you, but on this question - in case you are interested - Doc has posted somewhere in this thread that Recharge is for what happens around week 6 of bloom and to replenish some elements for the next run with the soil.

Amy, If It's for some week 6 reason, then why do it in the 1st. week of bloom? Recharge at week 6 would be understandable to me. if I'm still finding yellowing of the low leave, next drench, them I'll hit them with a couple tablespoons of epson salts, mixed with some castings. I've never grew this strain and maybe they're just heavy eaters ?? Thanks for the get back Amy !!

 

[Slowpuffer]

Trans, water, Cat, Cat, water Growth. That’s how I was told to do it.

Thanks Mr.Magoo !

 

[Amy Gardner]

Thanks for the get back Amy !!

If It's for some week 6 reason, then why do it in the 1st. week of bloom? Recharge at week 6 would be understandable to me.

I think we do it in week 3 of bloom, and the minerals in it would likely take some time to become available. In any case, I trust that Doc did a lot of R&D to come to that timing pattern, or thereabouts.

 

[Coloradokid19]

I think we do it in week 3 of bloom, and the minerals in it would likely take some time to become available. In any case, I trust that Doc did a lot of R&D to come to that timing pattern, or thereabouts.

I also do mine around week 3 as well

 

[Morglie]

I used TDrench the day I transplanted, then gi, then water, td, gi, and next will be water. What I'm asking is if I could skip this next water and do cat instead ?? if not then I'll do the water.

I personally would do the water still, but you could skip it.

Looking at your plants, I don't see any issue besides a couple of the bottom leaves turning because they aren't getting as much light anymore. I wouldn't worry about them, from the way they look to me.

Also, you give it recharge so early, because it needs time to work. It's similar to the amendment we add and then cook for a month. It needs time to work it's way down into the soil and for the biota to process it, for it to be ready. And truthfully, it's mostly to keep the minerals in check, for when you recook it for the next run.

 

[FutRfarmer]

Trans, water, Cat, Cat, water Growth. That’s how I was told to do it.

Same

 

[weenmeoff]

Trans, water, Cat, Cat, water Growth. That’s how I was told to do it.

I thought this was the way to go too. Something about the trans prepping the cation sites for the cats...

 

[Knifemaker420]

I thought this was the way to go too. Something about the trans prepping the cation sites for the cats...

The chart that came with my kit says Gi, water Gi, water, cat, cat , water

 

[weenmeoff]

Never understood that chart and I suspect you may be reading it wrong. I hope Doc or someone else can speak to this so we all know the proper drench order.

 

[Skybound]

The chart that came with my kit says Gi, water Gi, water, cat, cat , water

It seems there's been some recent revisions made. I got the PDF a few months ago and it looks like this;



That has DI > water > TP > water > Cat > Cat > water etc. I went to see if I had the most recent one, but it turns out you have the most recent one. So I assume these changes were intentional.

 

[Doc Bud]

Never understood that chart and I suspect you may be reading it wrong. I hope Doc or someone else can speak to this so we all know the proper drench order.

I hate that chart......we included it because people complained that the directions weren't clear. T'hose folks love the chart.....

Alternate drenches. Simple. Water inbetween drenches. Easy. 2 Cats, back to back after bud set.

Don't be afraid to increase drench amounts....especially if the plant looks like it could use it.....common sense.

It really doesn't matter all that much which drenches are given in order, as long as they alternate and as long as there's Transplant in the mix leading up to the Cat Drench series.

If you have doubts about which drench to use, use GI. If the plants look weak...rescue. If they are salt-loving hogs.....Super Drench.

The whole idea of alternating drenches isn't a set-in-stone, rigid practice.....you could do an entire grow using nothing but GI.....or Trans. Alternating them and the timing of when is literally a personal choice.

The feeding schedule we provide is simply an example that will work. Don't get too worked up over it.

 

[weenmeoff]

Thanks Doc! Makes perfect sense!

 

[Knifemaker420]

Thanks Doc! Makes perfect sense!

Ha couldnt be father from making sense, but ok.
Looks like I won't be buying another kit.
Saying use common sense is great if the person has any idea wtf they're doing already.
Megacrop here I come

 

[Slowpuffer]

I think we do it in week 3 of bloom, and the minerals in it would likely take some time to become available. In any case, I trust that Doc did a lot of R&D to come to that timing pattern, or thereabouts.

I also have confidence in Doc !! I follow his directions, as best I can, but I have an inquisitive mind, and I ask questions. I mean I have arguments with folks, that say dbhb system is not truly organic. Doc assures us that it is and that's good enough for me. A government stamp saying something is organic, is decided by $$$ !! I could really care less about something being organic. I'm more concerned with not wanting to ingest anything into my body, that is going to be detrimental to my health. I'm still hesitant to eat food grown with chemicals, that makes it grow to 2-3 time larger than normal size. You harvest those outside plants yet ?