Doc Bud's High Brix Q&A With Pictures

Ok I’m looking for a unicorn here. Back in the 90s there was some amazing stuff that smelled and tasted like you were hit by a truckload of pine trees. Up in New England we always called it Christmas tree bud. I’ve searched all over google and there’s numerous articles and posts discussing this but no solid results. I know there’s many in this group that do testing and are into the more scientific side of this dealing with terpenes and all. I have virtually zero knowledge in that dept. From reading posts with testing reports I would suspect the terpene to be pinene. So I’m wondering if any brixers have been able to discover something like this since this method appears to bring out certain traits that other growing methods can’t. I am the same as many of you in the sense that I’m not strictly looking for the strongest produce. For me it’s the adventure of the experience. :nomo::reading420magazine::lot-o-toke::passitleft:
Google Humboldt CSI, Nspecta has Xmas Bud ibl plus he has the original seeds he gives out as freebies at times. Hazemans Pine Tar Kush is actually Xmas Bud. @Icemud also has a lot of experience with Xmas Bud

 
The Christmas Bud you are looking for I believe is the Pine Tar Kush. @Mr. Krip is doing a breeding project with them. Infinity genetics (Hazeman) had them but they are sold out now.
@Pennywise has done a run...also @Icemud ...cheerz...h00k... :hookah:...
Google Humboldt CSI, Nspecta has Xmas Bud ibl plus he has the original seeds he gives out as freebies at times. Hazemans Pine Tar Kush is actually Xmas Bud. @Icemud also has a lot of experience with Xmas Bud


Thanks for the leads!!! I saw Icemud pop up in my search as well as csi but they were older posts and I didn’t see a conclusion. So I was close but I probably didn’t dig quite far enough. I can be technologically deficient sometimes :rofl: Now I have a direction to continue my search. Awesome group here!! Thanks again!! :thanks::passitleft:
 
The Christmas Bud you are looking for I believe is the Pine Tar Kush. @Mr. Krip is doing a breeding project with them. Infinity genetics (Hazeman) had them but they are sold out now.
Just to be clear, Pine Tar Kush is an entirely different strain, however, Hazeman's PTK is actually '79 XMas bud that was (intentionally!) mis-labelled as PTK when it was sent to him.
 
Hi, I am a hydro grower looking to improve brix and was wondering if this would be a good place to try and fish for usable info that can be applied in hydro? I don't use any brands of nutrient and mix everything myself from the ground up, so that I can target each and every element in my feed. I already grow very healthy plants, have great yields and as far as I can tell, produce great quality in terms of smoothness of the smoke and the sweetness of the taste. I've been making marginal adjustments in my feed in hopes of finding the perfect feed regimen, but upon reading up a little about Brix, my horizon broadened a lot and I quickly learned what I don't yet know if that makes any sense. I use some added organic acids in my feed and will be getting more in the coming days, but I feel I can get a lot better brix if I can identify the proper ratios of elements to give. FWIW, my current brix levels are 5 from one plant that's mid bloom, 7.5 for one that's late bloom and I won't even test to youngest one till stretch is finished in a few more days.

Before I post my current numbers and get into discussions about anything hydro, I first seek permission to do so, but if this isn't a good thread to have this convo, if anyone knows of another thread or forum to have this discussion, please link me to it. TYIA!
 
I am a hydro grower looking to improve brix and was wondering if this would be a good place to try and fish for usable info that can be applied in hydro?

You'd be more than welcome to join the discussion but the Doc Bud's High Brix Kit is formulated for very specific soil mixes, including Doc's amendments (which most of us use! ;) ).

As a former "hydro guy" myself, once you learn about the kit, it will be more than worth making the switch! :goodluck:
 
You'd be more than welcome to join the discussion but the Doc Bud's High Brix Kit is formulated for very specific soil mixes, including Doc's amendments (which most of us use! ;) ).

As a former "hydro guy" myself, once you learn about the kit, it will be more than worth making the switch! :goodluck:

Thank you for the offer, though I must respectfully decline. Part of my reasoning is that I secured about 10-20 years worth of feed for about $160, so my only other recurring expense is the inert grow media. I can't speak of Doc's kit's performance, but the method I use grows fast and big. I just want to squeeze out the better from it. I'm sure it can be done, I just need more experienced growers to help me identify truly ideal elemental ratios and I can easily adjust my feed to achieve them.
 
Dammit Archi, that's a lot of mist !! So do you think a 5 head would do my room. I don't want SF fog, but I'd like 50-55% rh in my room. I know this would be easier, if I was running leds instead of cmh & hid lights, but I can't swing the $$ to upgrade, right now. At this time, I'm just hanging towels, & spraying water on the tent walls and as long as I change the towels twice a day, it will keep me up close to 40% rh. Everything is healthy !! My heat will be turned off any time now, and that will help the overall situation. Thanks for your advise, Archi !! Now back to page 662 of this journal.
5 disc is perfect I’d think. Make sure you have a controller for it so you can dial it in perfectly :thumb:
Thank you for the offer, though I must respectfully decline. Part of my reasoning is that I secured about 10-20 years worth of feed for about $160, so my only other recurring expense is the inert grow media. I can't speak of Doc's kit's performance, but the method I use grows fast and big. I just want to squeeze out the better from it. I'm sure it can be done, I just need more experienced growers to help me identify truly ideal elemental ratios and I can easily adjust my feed to achieve them.

I respect where your coming from but I certainly am not qualified. I hope we can get you sorted.
Have you considered posting a thread in this section of the forum and perhaps tagging a few members you think could help? That way it’s your thread and the discussion will likely get more views as this is such a large thread.

Hope that helps!
 
Thank you for the offer, though I must respectfully decline. Part of my reasoning is that I secured about 10-20 years worth of feed for about $160, so my only other recurring expense is the inert grow media. I can't speak of Doc's kit's performance, but the method I use grows fast and big. I just want to squeeze out the better from it. I'm sure it can be done, I just need more experienced growers to help me identify truly ideal elemental ratios and I can easily adjust my feed to achieve them.
I too switched from 10 years of Hydro(Aero) to Doc’s highly mineralized living soil. Best decision I’ve made with cannabis thus far. The flavor and effect are stunning, and I like how I was able to chuck all my PH testers and gear.
 
I too switched from 10 years of Hydro(Aero) to Doc’s highly mineralized living soil. Best decision I’ve made with cannabis thus far. The flavor and effect are stunning, and I like how I was able to chuck all my PH testers and gear.

Amen to that brotha. Grew just about every way possible and once I found docs kit there’s no going back. No weed I’ve ever smoked tasted or smelled like docs kit weed.Even experimented with same seeds in different ways(soil,hydro) amd every time docs kit came out on top. And as you said no more messing around checking and adjusting ph or Ppms. Frig I don’t even measure what I’m adding to water anymore lol.
 
Part of my reasoning is that I secured about 10-20 years worth of feed for about $160,

Hey @Skybound do you mind if I ask what that feed is that you get 10-20 years worth for $160? I know nothing of hydro. I can't say for sure but don't think you are going to find the help you seek here because we are all in soil, even those that were in hydro may not be able to help because they were using that method so long ago and maybe some of them went seeking better quality when they found the kit and never turned back. I am also a kit user for life! I only did 1 bottled synthetic nutes grow before switching to the kit and love love love that I never have to ph correct, check ppm or flush. I smoke very little myself, it all goes to my gf, and when I'm around my friends who are all very long time pot smokers that get "top quality" weed, I can't smoke theirs anymore, yuk! My suggestion which I know your not going to like is to dump or sell that $160 feed, cut your losses and join the Brix crew and start growing some of the best weed you've ever had! I am still interested to know what this $160 feed you have is oh and will it last 10-20 years?

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Thank you for the offer, though I must respectfully decline. Part of my reasoning is that I secured about 10-20 years worth of feed for about $160, so my only other recurring expense is the inert grow media. I can't speak of Doc's kit's performance, but the method I use grows fast and big. I just want to squeeze out the better from it. I'm sure it can be done, I just need more experienced growers to help me identify truly ideal elemental ratios and I can easily adjust my feed to achieve them.
FWIW, those hydro nutes will likely go bad within a year or two. Keep using them up while reading, learning & seeing the results of what goes on here. You'll know when the time is "right" for you to make the switch. I'm currently using up about $500 worth of Advanced Nutrients gear on my fruits & vegetables! :laugh:
 
Hi, I am a hydro grower looking to improve brix and was wondering if this would be a good place to try and fish for usable info that can be applied in hydro? I don't use any brands of nutrient and mix everything myself from the ground up, so that I can target each and every element in my feed. I already grow very healthy plants, have great yields and as far as I can tell, produce great quality in terms of smoothness of the smoke and the sweetness of the taste. I've been making marginal adjustments in my feed in hopes of finding the perfect feed regimen, but upon reading up a little about Brix, my horizon broadened a lot and I quickly learned what I don't yet know if that makes any sense. I use some added organic acids in my feed and will be getting more in the coming days, but I feel I can get a lot better brix if I can identify the proper ratios of elements to give. FWIW, my current brix levels are 5 from one plant that's mid bloom, 7.5 for one that's late bloom and I won't even test to youngest one till stretch is finished in a few more days.

Before I post my current numbers and get into discussions about anything hydro, I first seek permission to do so, but if this isn't a good thread to have this convo, if anyone knows of another thread or forum to have this discussion, please link me to it. TYIA!
All of our methods to raise Brix levels center around microbial life health and getting those little critters supercharged with a highly mineralized diet. That works in soil. Not sure how to get that effect in Hydro.
 
Wow, I'm catching a lot of replies, and though everyone's being super helpful in an evidentially patient kinda way, I still must decline. Some months back, I too was using GH 3 part with all the bells and whistles, but when certain bottles began to grow mold in them, I switched to dry nutes, in particular, Jack's 321. I also joined RIU and learned how to get more refined 321, but then my studies lead me to discontinue using Jack's, or Peter's and I now make 100% my own blend. That said, I take Iron DTPA, Copper EDTA, Zinc EDTA, Manganese EDTA, Boric Acid and Sodium Molybdate and mixed everything to my own targeted blend micronutrient. I then mix the following components into a concentrate at 1 gram of salt to 10 ml of RO;

Magnesium Sulfate (Epsom Salt)
Monopotassium Phosphate
Potassium Silicate
Potassium Sulfate
Magnesium Nitrate
Calcium Nitrate

and I can draw from each of the above concentrate solutions of the same strength to make weekly reservoirs that each have a very intentionally tailored feed schedule that is neither overbearing or deficient. I've already chased out most visible signs of nutrient deficiency and am slowly perfecting the feed because I can produce whatever NPK I want to. The only constant about my feed is the micro blend that is as follows;

Fe = 2ppm
Mn = 1ppm
Zn = 0.3ppm
B = 0.3ppm
Cu = 0.2ppm
Mo = 0.05ppm

To change that I would have to mix a different blend of micros, but so far I see no reason to use a different micro blend, or at least to the extent that I'd discard this mix. I may decide to make minor adjustments the next time I whip up a concentrate micro mix, but that'll be many months away.

When I said 10-20 years of nutes, that was a wide estimation. Like, if these only lasted me 7 years, I would be guilty of the crime. In those branded nutes most of us have bought in our years was less than 10% solid weight which means we bought 90% water. This way, I haven't bought anymore water and when my concentrate solutions empty, I merely make up another. I'm getting a new camera today and have to mix up 2 bottles of concentrates, so maybe I'll shoot a video, but these methods I am documenting in a thread listed in my signature.

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What I was seeking here, but now believe I can't find here is insights on how to best dial in my feed numbers to produce the best brix possible from synthetic nutes. I believe such nute ratios will be truly ideal feed as a whole and is the feed regimen I am seeking apart from desiring higher brix. I don't believe I can find my answers here because last night when reading DOc's site, it said that the super soil has 18 times more calcium than N or K, but regardless, my feed will never have 18 times calcium to anything else. It then hit me that soil growers rely on time release nutrients that are fully dependent on microbes to process and release in ions to the roots whereas my synthetic nutes are available now. I think ultimately, my best path will be to invest in a sap PH tester and try to pursue equilibrium with this chart I found on another forum, but it will take a few more days of reading and Googlizing terms and phrases. I may even start a new thread, but was hoping one already exists and some of you knew what it was called.

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