Creating Female Seeds Using Colloidal Silver - With High Brix

Hmm, really can't tell what's keeping mine from reversing then. Gotta be the way I mixed the CS... Maybe the way I stored it! It said to keep it cool and dark, so I took that very literally, and kept it in my fridge. Anyone else do that?

SO when I would mix it...

I'd pour 1 oz of the 240 ppm CS into a shotglass measuring cup

Then I'd pour that into a regular measuring cup, and then fill with tap water until the total volume was at 4 oz. So that should have diluted the 240 ppm down to 60.

The soap, I put a lot in the bottle the first time around, and then just left it in there as I would continue to mix, so I have no idea how much soap was involved.

Then I'd take the plant to the bathroom, spray the whole thing down, under leaves and all, and leave it in the bathroom until the leaves were dry, then move it back into the tent.

One thing about the measuring is that I was using an uncalibrated TDS meter to measure, and the solution was only coming out to about 45 PPM. Thing is the TDS reader was reading low, so it could have actually been at 60 ppm but reading 40. Anyway, when that happened, I upped my recipe to 2 oz to 4 oz of water and the TDS meter read 60 ppm, but I never even took into account the ppm of my tap water in that reading. Still, an ounce of 240 ppm CS doesn't just "disappear" in 3 ounce of water, so it should have been at suitable levels.

SO yeah, I screwed SOMETHING up but no idea what.

It's such a weird feeling to look at a plant flowering and be disappointed by it. Pollen chucker problems.
 
TheFertilizer said:
Hmm, really can't tell what's keeping mine from reversing then. Gotta be the way I mixed the CS... Maybe the way I stored it! It said to keep it cool and dark, so I took that very literally, and kept it in my fridge. Anyone else do that?

SO when I would mix it...

I'd pour 1 oz of the 240 ppm CS into a shotglass measuring cup

Then I'd pour that into a regular measuring cup, and then fill with tap water until the total volume was at 4 oz. So that should have diluted the 240 ppm down to 60.

The soap, I put a lot in the bottle the first time around, and then just left it in there as I would continue to mix, so I have no idea how much soap was involved.

Then I'd take the plant to the bathroom, spray the whole thing down, under leaves and all, and leave it in the bathroom until the leaves were dry, then move it back into the tent.

One thing about the measuring is that I was using an uncalibrated TDS meter to measure, and the solution was only coming out to about 45 PPM. Thing is the TDS reader was reading low, so it could have actually been at 60 ppm but reading 40. Anyway, when that happened, I upped my recipe to 2 oz to 4 oz of water and the TDS meter read 60 ppm, but I never even took into account the ppm of my tap water in that reading. Still, an ounce of 240 ppm CS doesn't just "disappear" in 3 ounce of water, so it should have been at suitable levels.

SO yeah, I screwed SOMETHING up but no idea what.

It's such a weird feeling to look at a plant flowering and be disappointed by it. Pollen chucker problems.
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I keep mine in the fridge as well. Didn't have issues on 1st run... pollen sacks but no pollen 2nd run...

On day 2 of flowering and spraying this run.

Used 50ppm last 2 runs,.... just recieved my 240ppm yesterday in the mail, put into the fridge and will be dilluting it to 1/4 which should get me around 60ppm.
 
Curly Beaver said:
I know where you're coming from gypsy. If we'd have had cannabis courses back in high school I may have been a straight A student.:allgood:
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There's was. I swear I actually remember some parts of it. It was in that little clump of woods at the edge of the parking lot. Always scheduled during lunch for some reason :hmmmm:

Lesson 1 - Never let Thad Smith *name changed though he was far from innocent* see you smoking the half gram that you and your two other buddies each pitched in a $1.67 for. Dude could take down a 5 spot in one hit easy.

Lesson 2 - Don't run into those sticker bushes when Minihan comes walking down the trail to bust us. He already knows who's there.

Lesson 3 - No that's not an earthquake. That's the 6' 9" 340lb gym teacher who can tip over a truck with a camper on it no problem. Stick with the classroom.

:passitleft:
 
Icemud said:
I keep mine in the fridge as well. Didn't have issues on 1st run... pollen sacks but no pollen 2nd run...

On day 2 of flowering and spraying this run.

Used 50ppm last 2 runs,.... just recieved my 240ppm yesterday in the mail, put into the fridge and will be dilluting it to 1/4 which should get me around 60ppm.
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Did you happen to use tap water?
 
electro gypsy said:
Lesson 2 - Don't run into those sticker bushes when Minihan comes walking down the trail to bust us. He already knows who's there.
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Done that. We'd be down by the pond on the edge of the student parking lot (no fences or shit around the schools back in my day). We could see the student smoking area from our spot, but a few overseers knew how to sneak up...bastages. There were wild blackberries all around that pond and they'd scratch the hell out of our legs
 
Governmentchz said:
Done that. We'd be down by the pond on the edge of the student parking lot (no fences or shit around the schools back in my day). We could see the student smoking area from our spot, but a few overseers knew how to sneak up...bastages. There were wild blackberries all around that pond and they'd scratch the hell out of our legs
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I think Ridgemont High thing is universal lol. The gym teacher thing was hilarious. Fortunately I got to watch from the safety of the breeze way. There was about six of them in there. Smoke billowing out of the top vent on the camper. Damn, forget his name atm, but the dude looks like an NFL center. He's on the driver's side shaking the shit out of the camper. Thought the wheels were going to literally go off the ground lol. My favorite story star Kirby sneaks out the slider into the cab. He goes out the passenger door. Hits the ground and rolls under the truck. Dick Butkus hears the door close and runs around the front of the truck to the passenger side. Kirby is now rolling out the drivers side where DB was and keeps rolling under his own truck in the next slot. Out the other side and gets into his truck quietly and hides :rofl:
Unfortunately, there is no escaping the watchful eyes of Minihan V.P. and academic super hero who is standing right next to us.
 
I used distilled water and kept the mixed solution it at room temp in a grocery bag to protect it from light. I also prepare a fresh mixture each run.

I didn't spray the whole plant... just the new growth areas, but I soaked them... mixed 12 Oz. total for 2 plants this last time.
I'm not saying this is the only way to do it, but it's what worked for me.:blunt:
 
So I've been looking into buying silver to make my own CS generator, and I don't know if I'm doing this math right...

Let's say I got 1 gram of .999 silver (available on the river)

Well, we're going to be working with volume, but that's a measure of mass, so I'm not sure how to handle that. I know I can figure the volume of the silver via the density, but once electrolysis takes place, I'm not sure if the density remains the same. So I think mass would be the better figure here.

So, that being said, I'm looking at dissolving 1 gram of .999 silver into 1 ounce of water. 1 ounce of water = 29.57 mL. My measuring cup is in ounces, but metric is easier to do this math with.

Okay, so, 1 gram of .999 silver into 2.957 cubic centimeters of water (since water is 1 gm/c3), meaning 2.957 grams of water. Okay, so we're getting somewhere, now let's assume a 100% transfer of silver into the water ( not gonna happen, but let's pretend )

.999 grams of silver / 2.957 grams of water = 0.338

* 100 =

33.78%

Okay, this makes sense so far right? I'm really not so great with math and stuff, so would be great if someone could confirm. Because...

33.78 * 10000 = 337,800 ppm

Now, if this is right, it's an absolute no brainier that producing CS through electrolysis would be way more valuable.

Essentially, and I would really like some double-checking on this, with these figures you could theoretically make ~50 gallons of 60 ppm colloidal silver with 1 gram of silver. Of course I'm not sure what the odds of being able to dissolve a full gram of silver into water via electrolysis would be, the amount of time it would take, etc.

Has anyone ever produced their own with a generator before? About how long does it take to produce 60 ppm in a given volume of water? Say 16 oz?

Well, this is all academic anyway, I meant to go see how much some mercury dimes are down at the coin store. I've found source for .999 silver, $5 a gram, but that's too much money to be making CS for a plant. Mercury dimes are 90% silver and 10% copper, so all that means is my CS will have a bit of extra fungicide/pesticide for free! I wonder if there's any chance of inducing a copper toxicity doing this though. Anyway, expecting to be able to get about 2-4 times the amount of silver at the coin store for the same money. Maybe they even have 1 gram bullion there, but I doubt it. This is just an experimental idea anyway, if it goes well, I'd probably just suck it up and buy a 1 ounce bullion bar and probably have enough to last me the rest of my life.
 
I still haven't made my own.
I wonder about the copper. You'd have to compensate for it. Maybe go higher than 60 ppm, but then you may push toxicity. The numbers are fairly low..

"Oaksterdam University's 2014 Comprehensive Horticulture Valedictorian and Certified California Master Gardener Bruce N. Goren gives us the 'green-thumbs' up! However, he also warns that too much of a good thing can be deadly as well, especially in hydroponic grows. Some fungicides rely on copper as an active ingredient. Symptoms include stunted roots and leaf tip burn. If cannabis leaf-tissue analysis results in more than 25 parts per million of copper, toxicity was almost certainly the issue."

I know that's the leaf tissue and not the solution but it doesn't seem like much.
 
electro gypsy said:
I still haven't made my own.
I wonder about the copper. You'd have to compensate for it. Maybe go higher than 60 ppm, but then you may push toxicity. The numbers are fairly low..

"Oaksterdam University's 2014 Comprehensive Horticulture Valedictorian and Certified California Master Gardener Bruce N. Goren gives us the 'green-thumbs' up! However, he also warns that too much of a good thing can be deadly as well, especially in hydroponic grows. Some fungicides rely on copper as an active ingredient. Symptoms include stunted roots and leaf tip burn. If cannabis leaf-tissue analysis results in more than 25 parts per million of copper, toxicity was almost certainly the issue."

I know that's the leaf tissue and not the solution but it doesn't seem like much.
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Well, again, I'm not really great at math so I don't know, but when I started working with the numbers above and taking 10 percent out of them, it hit me that you'd really just be doing the same with the 60 ppm figure. So in other words, any solution you figure to make a certain concentration using .999 silver, if you use old silver coins then the result will actually be 90% of the silver, and 10% of the copper, so in other words 60 ppm would be 50 ppm silver, and 10 ppm copper.

I don't know, 10 ppm is really not that far off from 25 ppm when we're talking about accumulations. I suppose it matters a great deal on the size of the plant, kind of hard to get an idea of how much of the copper the plant would absorb. On the other hand, I swear I have read somewhere that 10% copper solutions for fungicide are tolerable for the plant.

I don't know, pretty wishy-washy on this. it would be better to find proof of someone using cold coins to generate CS that they then successfully reversed a plant with. I mean...

I guess, I could just try it myself on the plant I have currently. If it doesn't die, then we would know using CS from old coins won't kill plants.

Governmentchz said:
I'd steer away from any alloys. Stick with pure silver. You might even be able to find some pure silver wire on the cheap if you look around.
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Yeah not really sure where to look though. On the river it just seems like it's either jewelry sources, or that people have caught on and are selling it specifically for CS generation but with HUGE overhead. Then there's like, industrial applications such as silver solder, but finding pure silver solder would be challenging, and then trusting it's not contaminated with tin or lead or something would be another thing entirely. It would probably be for high end electronics, and even more expensive than jeweler's silver.

Personally I think the best bet is just .9999 bullion, but you rarely see it sold in quantities under 1 ounce and I was only really toying with the idea of doing it with coins because a silver dime costs a dollar or two. Silver prices are on the rise, so the coin stores that buy those old faded out blanks are probably paying silver-scrap cost for it themselves.

But I did find a place where I could get 1 gram of .999 silver bullion for $5. I mean, if my numbers are right, $5 is not a bad price to be able to make a barrel full of 60 ppm CS. I just feel like I'm missing something. I mean, I know there's always marketing, overhead, etc. but these companies like Silver Mountain making CS can't be charging THAT much more over cost to make it, so I don't think my figures are accurate for some reason. There must be other factors I'm not considering.

I'm all setup, I just need some silver. I've got...

1. 5v DC power supply at .750 A
2. A USB cable with alligator clips attached
3. A shot glass measuring cup
4. A TDS meter ( calibrated this time)
5. Distilled water

I figure the obvious thing to do would be to get the silver (two pieces for those who aren't cheapskates, but me I'll buy one piece and cut it in half ), then run the DC current through some distilled water, taking down the measurements like the guy in that video does. Then just wait and see what levels of concentration it reaches in the shot glass for a given period of time.
 
TheFertilizer said:
So I've been looking into buying silver to make my own CS generator, and I don't know if I'm doing this math right...

Let's say I got 1 gram of .999 silver (available on the river)

Well, we're going to be working with volume, but that's a measure of mass, so I'm not sure how to handle that. I know I can figure the volume of the silver via the density, but once electrolysis takes place, I'm not sure if the density remains the same. So I think mass would be the better figure here.

So, that being said, I'm looking at dissolving 1 gram of .999 silver into 1 ounce of water. 1 ounce of water = 29.57 mL. My measuring cup is in ounces, but metric is easier to do this math with.

Okay, so, 1 gram of .999 silver into 2.957 cubic centimeters of water (since water is 1 gm/c3), meaning 2.957 grams of water. Okay, so we're getting somewhere, now let's assume a 100% transfer of silver into the water ( not gonna happen, but let's pretend )

.999 grams of silver / 2.957 grams of water = 0.338

* 100 =

33.78%

Okay, this makes sense so far right? I'm really not so great with math and stuff, so would be great if someone could confirm. Because...

33.78 * 10000 = 337,800 ppm

Now, if this is right, it's an absolute no brainier that producing CS through electrolysis would be way more valuable.

Essentially, and I would really like some double-checking on this, with these figures you could theoretically make ~50 gallons of 60 ppm colloidal silver with 1 gram of silver. Of course I'm not sure what the odds of being able to dissolve a full gram of silver into water via electrolysis would be, the amount of time it would take, etc.

Has anyone ever produced their own with a generator before? About how long does it take to produce 60 ppm in a given volume of water? Say 16 oz?

Well, this is all academic anyway, I meant to go see how much some mercury dimes are down at the coin store. I've found source for .999 silver, $5 a gram, but that's too much money to be making CS for a plant. Mercury dimes are 90% silver and 10% copper, so all that means is my CS will have a bit of extra fungicide/pesticide for free! I wonder if there's any chance of inducing a copper toxicity doing this though. Anyway, expecting to be able to get about 2-4 times the amount of silver at the coin store for the same money. Maybe they even have 1 gram bullion there, but I doubt it. This is just an experimental idea anyway, if it goes well, I'd probably just suck it up and buy a 1 ounce bullion bar and probably have enough to last me the rest of my life.
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I haven't made my own, but I have looked into it....

One thing that I did read is you want to use .9999 silver, not .999 as it is even more pure. From what I understood from when I read about it using canadian silver works well as it is .9999. I believe they also make wires that are .9999.
 
Icemud said:
I haven't made my own, but I have looked into it....

One thing that I did read is you want to use .9999 silver, not .999 as it is even more pure. From what I understood from when I read about it using canadian silver works well as it is .9999. I believe they also make wires that are .9999.
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Yeah I've seen those wires, but they want $20-40 for them
 
TheFertilizer said:
Yeah I've seen those wires, but they want $20-40 for them
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I bought mine at the top of the bay. Yes it was $30 for two 10 gauge six inch wires but first of all, that will last you forever and second, that's the cost of three maybe four seeds. Think off all the many seeds you will make and spend the lousy thirty dollars. :rofl:
 
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