Creating Female Seeds Using Colloidal Silver - With High Brix

Curly Beaver said:
Thanks Gov, this is what I was looking for.:thumb:

I did the same thing and put 2 clones of each strain into 2 gallon pots but the seed barrers went on to become a nice, decent sized plants. They need nutes/water everyother day now so I better start flushing and watching the trichomes, if I can take some bud without interfering with seed production I'll get after them. :high-five:
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I go ahead and extract most of the seeds from the plants and use the flowers in my vape or hash them out, but I also still have a few nice buds from each seed run in sealed jars from as far back as 2 years ago. I saw an old grower that said the best way to store them was right on the bud...so that's what I did. I simply mark the jar with pertinent information and stick them in the door of my mini-fridge once cured. If I want a few seeds I'll take a small bud out, pinch the seeds and smoke the bud.
 
Governmentchz said:
I go ahead and extract most of the seeds from the plants and use the flowers in my vape or hash them out, but I also still have a few nice buds from each seed run in sealed jars from as far back as 2 years ago. I saw an old grower that said the best way to store them was right on the bud...so that's what I did. I simply mark the jar with pertinent information and stick them in the door of my mini-fridge once cured. If I want a few seeds I'll take a small bud out, pinch the seeds and smoke the bud.
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I might just give that a try too.

Did I mention I'm waiting for two each Laniakea # 2 & #3 to pop? All 4 had nice tap roots at 24 hours... should be up in the morning.
 
Curly Beaver said:
I might just give that a try too.

Did I mention I'm waiting for two each Laniakea # 2 & #3 to pop? All 4 had nice tap roots at 24 hours... should be up in the morning.
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Actually, no, you didn't.

These are coming down Friday or Saturday...

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I hope you like it as much as I do. :cool:
 
I think I'm to the point of not having to buy anymore seeds :blunt:
I have several hundred AK47 regulars from last year plus the current Kosher Kush & Amherst Sour Diesel seeds are almost finished. There are Zamaldelica and Malawi in veg right now and I plan on treating one or maybe both of them with C.S. In addition I have a few Laniakea's left so I should be good to go for an old man.:laughtwo:
 
Great day to all you "pollen chuckers"..:tokin:....you too Ziggs,..my #1!:high-five:
 
Yep, they can open and not be done. The tap will definitely work lol. When I checked Aubergine it was
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Well I'm doing one more pre-flip short treatment test on one of the Gobillygoo then toning it down to work on a few breeding projects for my breeder buddy. I may have to move in July so I want to be as compact as I can be fir that if it happens. If not I could use a slower paced summer :laughtwo:
She was treated twice yesterday and I'm going for the second treatment today in a few, then flipping. Will keep you updated. :) Bound and determined to make some S1 seeds from this one. She's a phenomenal strain/pheno. I have a major crush on it lol
 
electro gypsy said:
Found my TDS meter finally sheesh :phew:. The 50 ppm CS I've been using for the experiments measures 128 ppm.

:Namaste:
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I have purchased two bottles of 50ppm CS and both were above 120ppm. Although the bottles did say, "at least 50ppm. " I just cut it in half and figure I got twice as much as I paid for.
 
electro gypsy said:
Found my TDS meter finally sheesh :phew:. The 50 ppm CS I've been using for the experiments measures 128 ppm.

:Namaste:
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If I'm understanding this correctly, doing the short 1-2 day treatment may not work with a standard 50ppm C. S., but it will with a more concentrated solution, is that correct? Sounds like more testing.... eh?
 
Because of the time involved and invested, I'd rather use too much CS than not enough to force the change. "More than enough" doesn't negatively effect the end result (i.e. seed production) and even 2-3 treatments will render the plant material un-smokeable, so I would err on the side of more treatments to ensure the desired change.

my .02
 
electro gypsy said:
Found my TDS meter finally sheesh :phew:. The 50 ppm CS I've been using for the experiments measures 128 ppm.

:Namaste:
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Lol well no wonder you only needed one treatment.

Mine are still flowering as usual, I don't think it's gonna reverse. Kind of a bummer, now can't do anything with this plant

I wonder why it didn't work for me. Are you guys using a bit of soap along with it as a surfactant?

Using regular seeds? This one did come from anature already-self Ed plant so may even at makes a difference .

Dunno, I'll keep checking for nanners, but it seems like it's just going to flower like usual.
 
Curly Beaver said:
If I'm understanding this correctly, doing the short 1-2 day treatment may not work with a standard 50ppm C. S., but it will with a more concentrated solution, is that correct? Sounds like more testing.... eh?
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Definitely. I'll dilute what I have left to 50 ppm and start another three or four at least. Even if I don't take them all the way through there's still time to at least confirm.

Governmentchz said:
Because of the time involved and invested, I'd rather use too much CS than not enough to force the change. "More than enough" doesn't negatively effect the end result (i.e. seed production) and even 2-3 treatments will render the plant material un-smokeable, so I would err on the side of more treatments to ensure the desired change.

my .02
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I think that's the general consensus. Probably why the usual techniques call for two to three weeks. Just sure would be nice if it could be proven simpler. I still think it can be. I've got more than enough plants to try it on. May as well give it a shot.

TheFertilizer said:
Lol well no wonder you only needed one treatment.

Mine are still flowering as usual, I don't think it's gonna reverse. Kind of a bummer, now can't do anything with this plant
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Oh it's just one of those minor set back of the stoned wanna be scientist lol. I still think it will work. It's possible 1-2 may increase to 3-4. Won't know until we try. There's still along ways to go. It's also in my nature to question EVERYTHING lol, so failure doesn't bother me so much.

I'll bet you a reputation point that yours will still go in a few weeks :) but she's your girl. I wouldn't hold a grudge if you want to chuck her.

I'll get to work diluting shortly, but I did just check my last STS batch left overs and it measures 57 ppm. I could be wasting my time diluting the CS but I gotta know :)
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electro gypsy said:
Definitely. I'll dilute what I have left to 50 ppm and start another three or four at least. Even if I don't take them all the way through there's still time to at least confirm.



I think that's the general consensus. Probably why the usual techniques call for two to three weeks. Just sure would be nice if it could be proven simpler. I still think it can be. I've got more than enough plants to try it on. May as well give it a shot.



Oh it's just one of those minor set back of the stoned wanna be scientist lol. I still think it will work. It's possible 1-2 may increase to 3-4. Won't know until we try. There's still along ways to go. It's also in my nature to question EVERYTHING lol, so failure doesn't bother me so much.

I'll bet you a reputation point that yours will still go in a few weeks :) but she's your girl. I wouldn't hold a grudge if you want to chuck her.

I'll get to work diluting shortly, but I did just check my last STS batch left overs and it measures 57 ppm. I could be wasting my time diluting the CS but I gotta know :)
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Well I figure there's no sense in chucking her. Still a chance she could rodelize if I just let her flower for super long, but I didn't really want to do rodelized seeds.

I'll take that bet, and hope you're right :P

On the next try I think maybe I will do just a single branch. Maybe that will help keep it concentrated too, who knows if the plants just had more flowering hormone built up than the CS could block. If I concentrate it to one branch maybe that will help.
 
TheFertilizer said:
Well I figure there's no sense in chucking her. Still a chance she could rodelize if I just let her flower for super long, but I didn't really want to do rodelized seeds.

I'll take that bet, and hope you're right :P

On the next try I think maybe I will do just a single branch. Maybe that will help keep it concentrated too, who knows if the plants just had more flowering hormone built up than the CS could block. If I concentrate it to one branch maybe that will help.
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Good point. I have yet to try any treatments on a whole plant. With either CS or STS. Hopefully I can try it when things settle down.

Yeah rodelization is a pain. It works, but not very high seed production and it's tedious as hell. I remember doing that long before it had a name. Not always on purpose :rofl:

and I'll rep ya just because you are you dude :high-five:
 
electro gypsy said:
Good point. I have yet to try any treatments on a whole plant. With either CS or STS. Hopefully I can try it when things settle down.

Yeah rodelization is a pain. It works, but not very high seed production and it's tedious as hell. I remember doing that long before it had a name. Not always on purpose :rofl:

and I'll rep ya just because you are you dude :high-five:
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One thing I"ve noticed about this strain is that it seems to go hermie a lot. First time I grew it was from bagseed from one source, this is an entirely different source and the same bagseed. I suppose it's possible the dispensary this seed came from bought their stuff from the other grower I got the other seeds from, and it was just his batch, but I've been reading around Facebook groups and it seems other people have had it go hermie on them too. Might not be a strain I really want to keep for that reason lol

Anyway, was thinking about doing some "light poisoning" to it too. Maybe shove it in the dark for a couple days and see what happens. I just am hesitant because if I do that, then I won't know if it was the CS that worked or not.
 
TheFertilizer said:
One thing I"ve noticed about this strain is that it seems to go hermie a lot. First time I grew it was from bagseed from one source, this is an entirely different source and the same bagseed. I suppose it's possible the dispensary this seed came from bought their stuff from the other grower I got the other seeds from, and it was just his batch, but I've been reading around Facebook groups and it seems other people have had it go hermie on them too. Might not be a strain I really want to keep for that reason lol

Anyway, was thinking about doing some "light poisoning" to it too. Maybe shove it in the dark for a couple days and see what happens. I just am hesitant because if I do that, then I won't know if it was the CS that worked or not.
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Some strains are just more sensitive to different stresses than others. I had a sativa cross about 10-12 years ago that absolutely needed a gradual step by step two week long flip to flower without going hermaphrodite. Sativas in general are more prone IME. I'm not sure if I have ever had a highly prone indica. Seen a few lightly stress sensitive. Same with hybrids, but nothing I can't blame myself for.

Dilution is done and I'll be treating shortly. Checked, checked and rechecked everything at 55-56 ppm. Even primed the spray bottle twice lol.

Mix ratio was 20 ml CS @ 128 ppm + 25 ml distilled water @ 4 ppm.. and an expiration date of 12/28/18 :hmmm:
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:Namaste:
 
electro gypsy said:
Some strains are just more sensitive to different stresses than others. I had a sativa cross about 10-12 years ago that absolutely needed a gradual step by step two week long flip to flower without going hermaphrodite. Sativas in general are more prone IME. I'm not sure if I have ever had a highly prone indica. Seen a few lightly stress sensitive. Same with hybrids, but nothing I can't blame myself for.

Dilution is done and I'll be treating shortly. Checked, checked and rechecked everything at 55-56 ppm. Even primed the spray bottle twice lol.

Mix ratio was 20 ml CS @ 128 ppm + 25 ml distilled water @ 4 ppm.. and an expiration date of 12/28/18 :hmmm:
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:Namaste:
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I am also wondering if maybe my cs solution wasn't potent enough. My tap water is 49 ppm and the cs solution measured 40-60 any time I sprayed into a shot glass to measure it. Kind of seems like the TDS meter just isn't very accurate because it's as if adding the cs didn't increases the ppm of the water at all even with 1 ounce of 240 ppm kicked into 3 ounce of tap water. But I calibrated it with some calibration fluid and it seems fine
 
Tap water? That could be a contributor as well. I'm sure some might disagree, but I don't want anything in my water except the 60ppm of silver. if you don't have an RO filter, splurge on a gallon of distilled water. Less than buck last time I checked and doesn't go bad, so you can use it for years if you only use it for this.
 
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