Crawdaddy's First Grow in 10+ Years Greenhouse/Soil - 2013

Re: Crawdaddy's First Grow in 10+ Years Greenhouse/Soil -2013

I am curious to see how the sledgehammer turns out. I have heard some have had problems with it. Burnt/spotted leaves after use. Do you PH it up or down before application?

Nope nothing. Had some burnt tips before. Will check in am and see if any more/worse.
 
Re: Crawdaddy's First Grow in 10+ Years Greenhouse/Soil -2013

just beautiful. was going to let you know about mild fertilizer stress, but I just read your description and youre already on it. lovely. I need more light energy..
 
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just beautiful. was going to let you know about mild fertilizer stress, but I just read your description and youre already on it. lovely. I need more light energy..

Well for light energy nothing bets the Sun!
And thank you!
 
Re: Crawdaddy's First Grow in 10+ Years Greenhouse/Soil -2013

I am curious to see how the sledgehammer turns out. I have heard some have had problems with it. Burnt/spotted leaves after use. Do you PH it up or down before application?

Went and read up on the Sledgehammer some, some said it has high pH, well I did test some of my water and it read in low 8.0s. I figured my pH meter was out of cal and even if it was that high maybe bring my pH up a bit, cause it had been on the low end of safe range. Hoping not too high though. After I was done I tested my pH meter on cal solutions and it was fine, so it probably was high.

The good news is just pulled my indoor plants out of tent for inspection/better pics, and no signs of anything bad. I gave them the Sledgehammer last night at same ratio and did not test pH.
 
Re: Crawdaddy's First Grow in 10+ Years Greenhouse/Soil -2013

Went and read up on the Sledgehammer some, some said it has high pH, well I did test some of my water and it read in low 8.0s. I figured my pH meter was out of cal and even if it was that high maybe bring my pH up a bit, cause it had been on the low end of safe range. Hoping not too high though. After I was done I tested my pH meter on cal solutions and it was fine, so it probably was high.

The good news is just pulled my indoor plants out of tent for inspection/better pics, and no signs of anything bad. I gave them the Sledgehammer last night at same ratio and did not test pH.

Sorry to ask so many questions... I have sledgehammer but decided not to use it because I wasn't sure if it would mess up my plants.

So... After applying it, do you plan on flushing some extra water through the soil to rinse it out?
 
Re: Crawdaddy's First Grow in 10+ Years Greenhouse/Soil -2013

Sorry to ask so many questions... I have sledgehammer but decided not to use it because I wasn't sure if it would mess up my plants.

So... After applying it, do you plan on flushing some extra water through the soil to rinse it out?

Not for now. Just followed instructions. From what I read around net some did that others did not and had good results. Some said they just used it for final flush and bud tasted clean as could be.

And keep asking bro, we all here to learn and be references to help others. :high-five::peace:
 
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Read, read, read....ask, ask, ask...at :420: There are no desks in the back of the class!
 
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Well good news first, my g/f found another mantis and this one had, let's say an 'attachment' lol.
new_mantis.JPG


Obviously it is female and its male companion gave its life to keep species going!

So semi-bad news, plus need a little advice, my leaf tips are turning down, not all but most, and some with brown tips. Obviously fertilizer stress or the sledgehammer was not good. Think I should flush again with normal water? or let them dry out for a few days? Consider that I just REALLY wet them down yesterday. My instinct is to do nothing and let them dry out for 2-3 days then feed them plain water till it really drains. The hardest thing to do for me is nothing. And then go back to half strength ferts. You can see one of the burnt tips curling down above and right of mantis.

I am going to check my 3 plants under the LED that got same treatment a day earlier when light comes on at 7pm PST, but as of yesterday they not showing any of same signs.

Thanks!
 
Re: Crawdaddy's First Grow in 10+ Years Greenhouse/Soil -2013

I had troble the 1st time I used the sledgehammer........its an extract from the Yucca plant, which is basically a soap or surfactant.
It does a really good job of cleansing your media of build-ups.........but you really must remove the slegehammer after letting it do its job for an hour or so. After I leave sledge sit for about an hour to "wash" the soil.........I then follow with a really good straight water flush to rid the soil of the sledge residue..........and havent had a problem since.
I dont know why this info isnt stated on the label, because I see it as a must!
I think the sledge residue may adhere to the roots and impede water, O2 or nute uptake........:thumb:
 
Re: Crawdaddy's First Grow in 10+ Years Greenhouse/Soil -2013

I had troble the 1st time I used the sledgehammer........its an extract from the Yucca plant, which is basically a soap or surfactant.
It does a really good job of cleansing your media of build-ups.........but you really must remove the slegehammer after letting it do its job for an hour or so. After I leave sledge sit for about an hour to "wash" the soil.........I then follow with a really good straight water flush to rid the soil of the sledge residue..........and havent had a problem since.
I dont know why this info isnt stated on the label, because I see it as a must!
I think the sledge residue may adhere to the roots and impede water, O2 or nute uptake........:thumb:

So that tells me I should really soak them now? they drained ok last night. But only 2 gallons per pot and they are 10 and 15 gallon pots.
 
Re: Crawdaddy's First Grow in 10+ Years Greenhouse/Soil -2013

Well good news first, my g/f found another mantis and this one had, let's say an 'attachment' lol.
new_mantis.JPG


Obviously it is female and its male companion gave its life to keep species going!

So semi-bad news, plus need a little advice, my leaf tips are turning down, not all but most, and some with brown tips. Obviously fertilizer stress or the sledgehammer was not good. Think I should flush again with normal water? or let them dry out for a few days? Consider that I just REALLY wet them down yesterday. My instinct is to do nothing and let them dry out for 2-3 days then feed them plain water till it really drains. The hardest thing to do for me is nothing. And then go back to half strength ferts. You can see one of the burnt tips curling down above and right of mantis.

I am going to check my 3 plants under the LED that got same treatment a day earlier when light comes on at 7pm PST, but as of yesterday they not showing any of same signs.

Thanks!

I am leaning towards letting them dry out and then just plain water with a little runoff. Burnt tips? No big deal really. Plain water would be the safest thing to do in my opinion. Then you will probably want to hit them with the flowering nutes next watering.

Option 2 would be to flush with plain water after a few days and then flower nutes same day.

Hell, Even if you flushed before they dried out... most damage would be some wilting. Then you know you got to let it dry out.

The only thing I wouldn't do is just apply full strength nutes... assuming its nute burn or maybe sledge burn. Probably need some sort of a rinse?

As long as you don't smoke a joint, get lost in the jungle, and have to start eating your plants to survive until someone finds you? I think you are going t be ok with about any option you choose :rofl:
 
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I am leaning towards letting them dry out and then just plain water with a little runoff. Burnt tips? No big deal really. Plain water would be the safest thing to do in my opinion. Then you will probably want to hit them with the flowering nutes next watering.

Option 2 would be to flush with plain water after a few days and then flower nutes same day.

Hell, Even if you flushed before they dried out... most damage would be some wilting. Then you know you got to let it dry out.

The only thing I wouldn't do is just apply full strength nutes... assuming its nute burn or maybe sledge burn. Probably need some sort of a rinse?

As long as you don't smoke a joint, get lost in the jungle, and have to start eating your plants to survive until someone finds you? I think you are going t be ok with about any option you choose :rofl:

LOL Scar!

Option #1 is plan I am leaning toward, if it gets worse fast I may rinse them out with plain water before, but thinking dry them out till Wednesday. Then give them good soak with plain water, then 1/2 str fert. this weekend. I need to stop experimenting with my big plants and do that later on a small indoor grow and do controlled experiment. One clone use Sledge, other clone just use water.

My other problem is pH adjusting so much water to really flush well. Maybe find a 55 Gallon watering drum somewhere. right now i got 12 gallon milk jugs, but that is pain in ass.

Anyone have any suggestions for a big watering drum like that?
 
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LOL Scar!

Option #1 is plan I am leaning toward, if it gets worse fast I may rinse them out with plain water before, but thinking dry them out till Wednesday. Then give them good soak with plain water, then 1/2 str fert. this weekend. I need to stop experimenting with my big plants and do that later on a small indoor grow and do controlled experiment. One clone use Sledge, other clone just use water.

My other problem is pH adjusting so much water to really flush well. Maybe find a 55 Gallon watering drum somewhere. right now i got 12 gallon milk jugs, but that is pain in ass.

Anyone have any suggestions for a big watering drum like that?

I just recently run into this type of problem with not enough aerated water. I recently moved up from a 24 oz. cup grow to using 1 gallon containers. It takes more water to have the runoff I like to see. I only have a 5 gallon bucket to prepare the water. I also use this water to mix up nutes.

My solution? I have started just using water straight from my sink. Right into the 1 gallon jugs and then right into my plants. I have always heard that this is the wrong thing to do. That is... using chlorinated water from the sink. So far no problmes and I have been doing it since I put my current plants in the flower room.. 26 days now.

Something like: **Tap water PH's around 8.0 and I don't PH down**

1. Water (chlorinated tap water) with runoff and then 1/2 strength nutes. (2 to 3 days to dry out)
2. water (chlorinated tap water) and let dry out (2 to 3 days to dry out)
3. water (chlorinated tap water) with runoff, check PH and then 1/2 strength nutes. (2 to 3 days to dry out) **Sometimes I skip nutes here if I get a nut burn.

Rinse and repeat.

So, I was thinking if you had a hose you could just water from the hose outside. I saw my neighbor who has a bazillion flowers and she was watering straight from her hose. I thought damn! Cannabis is a weed? It should be fine with chlorinated tap water. *I effectively assured myself it was ok* :rofl:

whew... I need a break.

:peacetwo:
 
Re: Crawdaddy's First Grow in 10+ Years Greenhouse/Soil -2013

I just recently run into this type of problem with not enough aerated water. I recently moved up from a 24 oz. cup grow to using 1 gallon containers. It takes more water to have the runoff I like to see. I only have a 5 gallon bucket to prepare the water. I also use this water to mix up nutes.

My solution? I have started just using water straight from my sink. Right into the 1 gallon jugs and then right into my plants. I have always heard that this is the wrong thing to do. That is... using chlorinated water from the sink. So far no problmes and I have been doing it since I put my current plants in the flower room.. 26 days now.

Something like: **Tap water PH's around 8.0 and I don't PH down**

1. Water (chlorinated tap water) with runoff and then 1/2 strength nutes. (2 to 3 days to dry out)
2. water (chlorinated tap water) and let dry out (2 to 3 days to dry out)
3. water (chlorinated tap water) with runoff, check PH and then 1/2 strength nutes. (2 to 3 days to dry out) **Sometimes I skip nutes here if I get a nut burn.

Rinse and repeat.

So, I was thinking if you had a hose you could just water from the hose outside. I saw my neighbor who has a bazillion flowers and she was watering straight from her hose. I thought damn! Cannabis is a weed? It should be fine with chlorinated tap water. *I effectively assured myself it was ok* :rofl:

whew... I need a break.

:peacetwo:

Yea scar that has always been the debate in my head, why can't I use water straight from hose? after all I drink it, we have pretty decent water on this small town.

Thanks for the detailed response +reps
 
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Yea scar that has always been the debate in my head, why can't I use water straight from hose? after all I drink it, we have pretty decent water on this small town.

Thanks for the detailed response +reps

Thanks for the reps.

I wanted to let you know that I only water with the chlorinated tap water on mature plants. I still use the aerated (hopefully chlorine free) water to mix up my nutes and water clones and seedlings.
 
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Happy munchday CrawDad:thumb:
 
Re: Crawdaddy's First Grow in 10+ Years Greenhouse/Soil -2013

When youre flushing you dont have to Ph all the water first just the last couple gallons that will stay in the pots. use your hose then only Ph whatever you nomally do for feedings and finish with that amount of Phed water or maybe a little more to be sure.

I have a buddy that grows in the sunshine mix with Perlite (IDK what # it is sorry) and uses GH 3 part nutes and has never checked or adjusted the Ph of his city tap water and never has any issues. He does fill milk jugs and let them sit over night though. I was growing in Hempys at that time and using the same nutes and had to adjust mine which was the same city water just a few blocks away. I dont know if it was the medium or what but if it works for ya why mess with it
 
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