Cottage 420's Organic Perpetual Indoor Garden

hey bob nice plants you have there and it sounds like the kind of high i would like first thing in the morning get you started on your day,those girls are beautiful man i would be jacked to have them good job i hope i can come out with some good stuff,i have been training the crap out of that m2 its in a 15 if i wouldn't have trained her she would be 5ft. at least by now as is she is 3ft. at day 26 , only 9-11 weeks to go lol, if you don't mind me asking where did you get your seeds?
 
4Dutchess said:
Mornin Bob. I reread and searched and found all your neem cake info and wrote it down but where do I buy it and the Karanga? The Grow shop? Im adding it to my soils from now on. A foliar at times and a top dress. In fact a top dress is next and if I remember right a tbl spoons worth. AND OK IN THE 5TH WEEK IN FLOWER AS A TOP DRESS?

You said if infested bad at the end you "Bud wash" do you mean after chop/harvest? Or while its in the pot cause id like to know how if so in a pot bigger than 3 gal

Id really like to all your peoples thoughts on Demasterous Earth. If and when you would use it??

Wow Bob, howd you keep your mother inlaw from knowing your growing? Shes got to know you smoke weed?

Cute Shar Pei puppy! A cross of a chow and something else?
Great Day 420
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Hey there 4D .... Neem Cake and Karaja Cake I get is Ahisma brand organic @ neemresource.com - get the "cake" and they sell soap nut powder there as well but I get my soap "nuts" from Ebay.

Bud washing is after chop, we cut down the plant and cut the branches apart, get a few 5 gal buckets and put some water with some baking soda in it can add lemon juice .... swoosh around gently .. can do that 2x then rinse in plain filtered water. Hang dry. This process actually lessons the drying time for the flowers by a few days and washes off all the crap that plants get on them during the grow cycle. I only bud wash if I've been spraying with neem oil for an infestation in flower. Washes off any residue.. oh and the dead bugs.

There's a bud washing thread here:

Bud Washing

It's a pretty active thread. I'm usually only interested when I need to wash buds. Washing is supposed to make buds taste better but I've not noticed any difference...my grow space is always pretty clean anyway and I rinse plants with foilers down the stretch.... gets the dust off I suppose.



We use soap nuts in place of well soap... specially if mixing up oil for foiler you need soap as an emulsifier. Use soap nuts instead of something man made... soap nuts are actually good for plants, unlike many soaps we use for cleaning.

Mother in law... hehehehe yeah well I get a pass, you know how some people wanna just ignore issues they can't really do anything about? Prolly that... and they are from Eastern Europe so they understand how this sort of thing works... make your own if ya want the good stuff!! Government meh....

Sorta hard to be total stealth here, I've got a corner cupboard that has my curing flowers in it. Open the door and it kinda hits you in the face, in a good way. That and they know I have a medical condition that cannabis helps me with. If I was poppin opiods every 4 hrs they would probably be a lot more concerned and rightly so. Been there ... never again.

Diatomaceous earth I don't use it but I have it in hand - the food grade stuff.. Supposed to be a good dietary supplement for humans... I dunno, never tried it.
I use perl-lite in my soil mix instead of DT for aeration. Some of these amendments I just toss a handful here and there into the compost bin.. it will come back in the spring in spades, plant ready.
 
ilikemsticky said:
hey bob nice plants you have there and it sounds like the kind of high i would like first thing in the morning get you started on your day,those girls are beautiful man i would be jacked to have them good job i hope i can come out with some good stuff,i have been training the crap out of that m2 its in a 15 if i wouldn't have trained her she would be 5ft. at least by now as is she is 3ft. at day 26 , only 9-11 weeks to go lol, if you don't mind me asking where did you get your seeds?
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Welcome to our little corner of crazy... Yeah your MT looks a lot like my DTs look and have some of the same genetics in them as well. My DT's start to stretch as soon as they go into flower duh but even after flowers start to set, they keep stretching all the way into the 4th week and even longer...its crazy. If I had them in 15gal pots, I don't know how big they would get... scary to think about it really. I'm in 7.5gal (1 cu ft) containers that are self watering. These plants drink A LOT of water every day specially when they git this size.

I got the DT seeds from I think SHN but they are sold out everywhere. My thought was when I read the MT that the MT strain was from SnowHigh Seeds which is the breeder I got my seeds from. Doubt you'll find this strain anywhere. It was a limited edition I think like much of SnowHigh seeds are... he's not really a breeder (his words) but he has access to a lot of Landrace strains he collected over the last 40 years from all around the world. He's not 100% healthy and so he wanted to get his gear out there so it doesn't get lost. As soon as I read about your MT and saw your pics ... it looks /sounds a lot like the DT.

i looked everywhere for some more seeds of the DT since I tossed the 4 males I had from my initial run. That was when I stopped tossing plants without taking clones... ya never know when a keeper is in hand, utnil its not. Ouch...

Bright-Light knows a lot of Nor-Cal growers ... he might know something about SnowHigh. He's been pretty much out of sight for the last year or so... that I could find anyways.
 
Congrats on your win brother. Very well deserved. Love seeing a soil guy get the win!!
 
bobrown14 said:
Welcome to our little corner of crazy... Yeah your MT looks a lot like my DTs look and have some of the same genetics in them as well. My DT's start to stretch as soon as they go into flower duh but even after flowers start to set, they keep stretching all the way into the 4th week and even longer...its crazy. If I had them in 15gal pots, I don't know how big they would get... scary to think about it really. I'm in 7.5gal (1 cu ft) containers that are self watering. These plants drink A LOT of water every day specially when they git this size.

I got the DT seeds from I think SHN but they are sold out everywhere. My thought was when I read the MT that the MT strain was from SnowHigh Seeds which is the breeder I got my seeds from. Doubt you'll find this strain anywhere. It was a limited edition I think like much of SnowHigh seeds are... he's not really a breeder (his words) but he has access to a lot of Landrace strains he collected over the last 40 years from all around the world. He's not 100% healthy and so he wanted to get his gear out there so it doesn't get lost. As soon as I read about your MT and saw your pics ... it looks /sounds a lot like the DT.

i looked everywhere for some more seeds of the DT since I tossed the 4 males I had from my initial run. That was when I stopped tossing plants without taking clones... ya never know when a keeper is in hand, utnil its not. Ouch...

Bright-Light knows a lot of Nor-Cal growers ... he might know something about SnowHigh. He's been pretty much out of sight for the last year or so... that I could find anyways.
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I wish that DT was still available. Man I would love to get my grimmy paws on a bean or two of that! Make some feminized beans from one.
 
MagicJim said:
Congratulations man....Grow Journal of the Month December 2017

420 Magazine's Grow Journal Of The Month - December 2017

:cheertwo::Love::cheertwo:
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Yes Indeed!:bravo:

bobrown14 said:
Bro... crazy.... made my day right there ^^^ that's amazing. I didn't know anyone was reading other than my friends here...
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:goodjob: Congrats bobrown! Made my day too. You deserve it.

Van Stank said:
Congrats on your win brother. Very well deserved. Love seeing a soil guy get the win!!
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Yay for the soil :cheertwo:
 
bobrown14 said:
Welcome to our little corner of crazy... Yeah your MT looks a lot like my DTs look and have some of the same genetics in them as well. My DT's start to stretch as soon as they go into flower duh but even after flowers start to set, they keep stretching all the way into the 4th week and even longer...its crazy. If I had them in 15gal pots, I don't know how big they would get... scary to think about it really. I'm in 7.5gal (1 cu ft) containers that are self watering. These plants drink A LOT of water every day specially when they git this size.

I got the DT seeds from I think SHN but they are sold out everywhere. My thought was when I read the MT that the MT strain was from SnowHigh Seeds which is the breeder I got my seeds from. Doubt you'll find this strain anywhere. It was a limited edition I think like much of SnowHigh seeds are... he's not really a breeder (his words) but he has access to a lot of Landrace strains he collected over the last 40 years from all around the world. He's not 100% healthy and so he wanted to get his gear out there so it doesn't get lost. As soon as I read about your MT and saw your pics ... it looks /sounds a lot like the DT.

i looked everywhere for some more seeds of the DT since I tossed the 4 males I had from my initial run. That was when I stopped tossing plants without taking clones... ya never know when a keeper is in hand, utnil its not. Ouch...

Bright-Light knows a lot of Nor-Cal growers ... he might know something about SnowHigh. He's been pretty much out of sight for the last year or so... that I could find anyways.
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thanks for the nice welcome bob,and thanks for the seed info to i also have one in a 7.5 originally i had 4 of these going because there regs i wanted 2 of them all four turned out to be females what are the odds next time ill start 4 and get 1 female according to the breeder it will stretch through the entire process he recommends 1 week veg but he's doing hydro i vegged mine 7weeks until i saw pistils,so if mine end up looking as good as yours i will be a happy man ill be around,oh congratulations on your win!:smokin2:
 
Great job bro on the win for grow journal of the month congrats
 
ilikemsticky said:
thanks for the nice welcome bob,and thanks for the seed info to i also have one in a 7.5 originally i had 4 of these going because there regs i wanted 2 of them all four turned out to be females what are the odds next time ill start 4 and get 1 female according to the breeder it will stretch through the entire process he recommends 1 week veg but he's doing hydro i vegged mine 7weeks until i saw pistils,so if mine end up looking as good as yours i will be a happy man ill be around,oh congratulations on your win!:smokin2:
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Thanks Sticky... 7 weeks in VEG... going to be some big plants.

These 2 strains are the only ones that "I" know of that never really stop stretching. Well until the leaves start to yellow (Acapulco Gold.. yellow = new gold??). When they turn yellow is when I notice the stretch stops and the buds start to get bigger. This plant really doesn't look like much, but wait until you smoke it. Wow..... Oh and I can't go by trichomes... they never stop so there's always some clear. I waited until one of my plants started showing a few nanners then chopped. Was 90ish days I think 91 or so. She still was putting out new pistols and clear trichomes. Yield was huge for me last round.

I week VEG.... yeah no. The plants are not even mature yet as you noticed. 7 weeks is good. I go about 6 weeks with the clones but they really start to take off after week 3-4 and training is needed.. they grow very fast and get big quick. I would say 10-12 weeks ... unless you have room. The longer they go the larger the yield.


Van Stank said:
I wish that DT was still available. Man I would love to get my grimmy paws on a bean or two of that! Make some feminized beans from one.
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I hear ya... I Kicked myself... I had the males sitting in my laundry room - they were about 3' tall and showing balls everywhere.. tossed em. All I had to do was take a few cuts and then toss. I didn't know what I had. I do have a plan tho.

I have cuts of course of both phenos, and stuff to reverse the plant - Sodium Thiosulfate and Silver Nitrate. Seems to be the easiest way to reverse one of my clones and make some seeds.

Here's the tall Jumbo girls

Yesterday - Jumbo's there's 2 plants there on the left.. well past the lights - lights are @ 6'

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Jumbo's from 4 days ago.... not quite to the lights

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Jumbo's from 2 weeks ago...you can see in 2 weeks they went from 4' to 7' and they aren't done. The 2nd pheno "large" is there on the right... she's done stretching and she's like 5' tall.

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These plants don't look like much right now ... there's a lot of leaves. They will soon enough start to yellow, give the stored energy in the leaves back to the plant so she can grow flowers. The canopy will open up after that and that's when the buds start to bulk up. They look pretty for about 2 weeks tops...well bud candy pretty anyway.

Here's some bud pics

Labyrinth 50ish days ... she's getting pretty close and I'm running out of space again ..... PMB and Chemdawg waiting in the wings.


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Labyrinth

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Labyrinth under the 1750K lamps true color... looks like Mars... only way to tell if these 1750K lamps are good will be a smoke test. All the lower down buds are WAY frostier than the large colas close to the lamps. Maybe these need more distance from the canopy??

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Labyrinth again

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Here's the family picture - the Jumbo's in the back with the Large DT on the right, in front of them

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DT Large pheno - bud shot - color adjusted... she's getting side lit from the 1750K lamps

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Drive by.... They slipped up on ya and said here ya go huh, with that Journal thing. Congrats. Girls are looking pretty there... That's alot of plant in there... GL and Keepem Green
 
Pennywise said:
Do your Labyrinth always grow the long solid colas? I think I read where that trait comes from the The Cube.
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Yeah pretty much... get some frosty nugs out this plant for sure. When I trim it I break all the flowers down into 1/2 dollar sized nugs. They are all about exactly the same looking and dense. So great bag appeal and good smell too. When she's young you can see each flower cluster then they all grow together, but at trim time they break apart at the clusters and are all pretty uniform size ....

Speaking of trim... today is a trim day.

I've got 6 Dark Devils to trim up. That's my holiday "party favors" treat bag for my friends that like cannabis. Always a welcome treat... get hugs and kisses (from the ladies) with that!

A nice size bush of DT #3.... I chopped her early. I smoked some DT #1 from last round that was the shorter early finish pheno and wow... that's some potent weed. Gonna have to go out on a limb and say; "not for night-time". I don't know when I'm going to learn my lesson. Tried a little before bedtime last night and woke up in the middle of the night... I think my heart rate was over 100... resting. Yeah that's not sleeping meds. The tall pheno doesn't do that to me, thankfully.

A few pics I didn't get into my update yesterday.

Dolato - Gelato #41 x Do-si-dos - just getting going @ 5 days in flower - no pre-flowers

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Chemdawg clone... @ 5 days in flower and no pre-flowers here either.

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Woody said:
Drive by.... They slipped up on ya and said here ya go huh, with that Journal thing. Congrats. Girls are looking pretty there... That's alot of plant in there... GL and Keepem Green
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Yeah they did ... was a very pleasant surprise, I thought the only crazies reading here were you guys! Thanks bud... if anyone deserves that recognition, its all of you all.

Lets get choppin... I got work to do.
 
Hi bb i was just wondering is sodium theosulfate and silver nitrate that's sts right? Also can u get those items online already mixed or do u need to buy them separate and mix them urself?
 
bobrown14 said:
Hey there 4D .... Neem Cake and Karaja Cake I get is Ahisma brand organic @ neemresource.com - get the "cake" and they sell soap nut powder there as well but I get my soap "nuts" from Ebay.

Bud washing is after chop, we cut down the plant and cut the branches apart, get a few 5 gal buckets and put some water with some baking soda in it can add lemon juice .... swoosh around gently .. can do that 2x then rinse in plain filtered water. Hang dry. This process actually lessons the drying time for the flowers by a few days and washes off all the crap that plants get on them during the grow cycle. I only bud wash if I've been spraying with neem oil for an infestation in flower. Washes off any residue.. oh and the dead bugs.

There's a bud washing thread here:

Bud Washing

It's a pretty active thread. I'm usually only interested when I need to wash buds. Washing is supposed to make buds taste better but I've not noticed any difference...my grow space is always pretty clean anyway and I rinse plants with foilers down the stretch.... gets the dust off I suppose.



We use soap nuts in place of well soap... specially if mixing up oil for foiler you need soap as an emulsifier. Use soap nuts instead of something man made... soap nuts are actually good for plants, unlike many soaps we use for cleaning.

Mother in law... hehehehe yeah well I get a pass, you know how some people wanna just ignore issues they can't really do anything about? Prolly that... and they are from Eastern Europe so they understand how this sort of thing works... make your own if ya want the good stuff!! Government meh....

Sorta hard to be total stealth here, I've got a corner cupboard that has my curing flowers in it. Open the door and it kinda hits you in the face, in a good way. That and they know I have a medical condition that cannabis helps me with. If I was poppin opiods every 4 hrs they would probably be a lot more concerned and rightly so. Been there ... never again.

Diatomaceous earth I don't use it but I have it in hand - the food grade stuff.. Supposed to be a good dietary supplement for humans... I dunno, never tried it.
I use perl-lite in my soil mix instead of DT for aeration. Some of these amendments I just toss a handful here and there into the compost bin.. it will come back in the spring in spades, plant ready.
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I appreciate all that Bob. I wrote all the neem info down. Part of my IPM. I havent topped dressed the tent but will do the next time I go in.
Great day 420!
 
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