Cottage 420's Organic Perpetual Indoor Garden

[Blazinjones]

IPM FTMFW.. it's really the only way to get to harvest. NeeM Cake/Karanga Cake in the soil mix is the my go to really.... bugs hate that shit. Can top dress with neem cake and watch the soil microbes go crazy.


DT.... thanks Woody. They are my golden children right now. Everybody LOVES those buds. With a nice 2 week cure they really have some nice stink to them. Lemon + Wood ... longer cure and it gets more danky lemon + danky wood... and hairy buds.

Woody - have you ever ran Chemdawg?? You rock everything .. I'd love to see your magic with that strain. I think you'd love the meds too. You WILL get high.

I should start rolling the DT dried (or fresh) buds on a coarse mesh screen... prolly give me a heart attack, Must resist! hahahaha

Give those buds a little hair cut b-4 drying... might be just the trick!



I don't think that's possible. Neem is one of the strongest organic treatments out there.. taste that shit... actually I'll save you the trouble. It's nasty, 1 minor application and you can rid your house of fleas... tics .... bed bugs and if you have a troubled lady... prolly get rid of her too. Just sayin... If you're doing neem cake - add some Karanga Cake to the mix 50/50. Bacteria wins over these freak bugs.

I use neem cake water (soak some neem cake in water & strain) and Monterrey Garden Spray 1-2 tbs/gal water and spray the shit out of everything.. floor, walls, plants, soil everything, top to btm and then btm to top and keep doing it... like a hurricane. You'd be surprised how much the ladies like that treatment.. it's like a bath.. you know ladies like a nice bath right?

Every 1 of my finished girls have had several IPM showers... down the stretch you can just do silica and water to rinse off the neem residue (if there's any) .. and/or bud wash after harvest.

Update

Start off with Family Picture since its Thanksgiving season and all:

Our new pup - Rosie Wrinkles - she's not quite 3 month old. Her nic is "Little Monkey" :

Our garden family picture; stack'in it flowers:

Labyrinth Tops:

Labyrinth popcorn lower buds:

More popcorn:

Closer upper popcorn:

Labyrinth - getting close.. some more lower flowers:

Labyrinth upper tops.... starting to get some color on the fans:

DT #4 - Getting colors too... The Labyrinth and DT #4 are partly under the 1750K COBs.. only plants that are getting some colors other than gold ... so far. But they are the oldest girls this round.

DT #4 some more - this is what DT #1 looked like when I chopped her, she was straight up Sativa white knuckles hold on to the wheel cause we have lift off... high, with a shuttle landing. I'm starting to see 2 slightly different phenos here... very very slight. This is one. She's a little shorter @ 6' and looks like this - seems to finish a few weeks earlier. The other pheno is the tall pheno, grow to the ceiling @ 8' or more and the high is more mellow (for a Sativa) & later finish. The smells are very similar lemon + wood. My friends are starting to drool on this. Finally... sheesh.

Jungle Shot - there's 2 plants there in a 4'x4' space. Labyrinth in the front and DT #4 in the back under the 1750K and 3K COBs - I'll take a pic of the other side of the room with straight up all 3K COBs... the plants are HUGE over there in comparo. 4-6' here..... 8' over there. That's not a small difference. Yields are similar as well. Getting 2x the yields but pheno may be in play... must do more puffage to confirm!

Thinking of making seeds. I want to use this HUGE ass DT tall pheno, and cross her with PMB (Purple Monkey Balls) - very similar lineage - the difference between DT and PMB is the female side.

PMB = sputnik 1.0 f2 x black Russian x Acapulco Gold x C99(male)
DT = Durban Poison x Acapulco Gold x C99(male)

I'm not a breeder and I know very little about genetics but I think keeping close to fam is important??
Prolly still have a shit wave of phenos to hunt thru.

I've got 3 PMB in VEG now.. I think at least 1 is male... but he's not very impressive, yet and not sure if male either.

More to come!

Jeez Bob those look amazingly tastey i cant wait to see what my bigger plants start turning out to be u keep me inspired to stay with my los kit i dont think ill ever be able 2 fully quit soil lol i love organics jus water in ftw as u say just wanted to stop by n let u know garden is lookn Great very nice

 

[imtoasted]

Buds look awesome, that dt looks like it would be a great high. Sounds like a great cross there.. only one way to find out!

 

[TheFertilizer]

IPM FTMFW.. it's really the only way to get to harvest. NeeM Cake/Karanga Cake in the soil mix is the my go to really.... bugs hate that shit. Can top dress with neem cake and watch the soil microbes go crazy.


DT.... thanks Woody. They are my golden children right now. Everybody LOVES those buds. With a nice 2 week cure they really have some nice stink to them. Lemon + Wood ... longer cure and it gets more danky lemon + danky wood... and hairy buds.

Woody - have you ever ran Chemdawg?? You rock everything .. I'd love to see your magic with that strain. I think you'd love the meds too. You WILL get high.

I should start rolling the DT dried (or fresh) buds on a coarse mesh screen... prolly give me a heart attack, Must resist! hahahaha

Give those buds a little hair cut b-4 drying... might be just the trick!



I don't think that's possible. Neem is one of the strongest organic treatments out there.. taste that shit... actually I'll save you the trouble. It's nasty, 1 minor application and you can rid your house of fleas... tics .... bed bugs and if you have a troubled lady... prolly get rid of her too. Just sayin... If you're doing neem cake - add some Karanga Cake to the mix 50/50. Bacteria wins over these freak bugs.

I use neem cake water (soak some neem cake in water & strain) and Monterrey Garden Spray 1-2 tbs/gal water and spray the shit out of everything.. floor, walls, plants, soil everything, top to btm and then btm to top and keep doing it... like a hurricane. You'd be surprised how much the ladies like that treatment.. it's like a bath.. you know ladies like a nice bath right?

Every 1 of my finished girls have had several IPM showers... down the stretch you can just do silica and water to rinse off the neem residue (if there's any) .. and/or bud wash after harvest.

Update

Start off with Family Picture since its Thanksgiving season and all:

Our new pup - Rosie Wrinkles - she's not quite 3 month old. Her nic is "Little Monkey" :

Our garden family picture; stack'in it flowers:

Labyrinth Tops:

Labyrinth popcorn lower buds:

More popcorn:

Closer upper popcorn:

Labyrinth - getting close.. some more lower flowers:

Labyrinth upper tops.... starting to get some color on the fans:

DT #4 - Getting colors too... The Labyrinth and DT #4 are partly under the 1750K COBs.. only plants that are getting some colors other than gold ... so far. But they are the oldest girls this round.

DT #4 some more - this is what DT #1 looked like when I chopped her, she was straight up Sativa white knuckles hold on to the wheel cause we have lift off... high, with a shuttle landing. I'm starting to see 2 slightly different phenos here... very very slight. This is one. She's a little shorter @ 6' and looks like this - seems to finish a few weeks earlier. The other pheno is the tall pheno, grow to the ceiling @ 8' or more and the high is more mellow (for a Sativa) & later finish. The smells are very similar lemon + wood. My friends are starting to drool on this. Finally... sheesh.

Jungle Shot - there's 2 plants there in a 4'x4' space. Labyrinth in the front and DT #4 in the back under the 1750K and 3K COBs - I'll take a pic of the other side of the room with straight up all 3K COBs... the plants are HUGE over there in comparo. 4-6' here..... 8' over there. That's not a small difference. Yields are similar as well. Getting 2x the yields but pheno may be in play... must do more puffage to confirm!

Thinking of making seeds. I want to use this HUGE ass DT tall pheno, and cross her with PMB (Purple Monkey Balls) - very similar lineage - the difference between DT and PMB is the female side.

PMB = sputnik 1.0 f2 x black Russian x Acapulco Gold x C99(male)
DT = Durban Poison x Acapulco Gold x C99(male)

I'm not a breeder and I know very little about genetics but I think keeping close to fam is important??
Prolly still have a shit wave of phenos to hunt thru.

I've got 3 PMB in VEG now.. I think at least 1 is male... but he's not very impressive, yet and not sure if male either.

More to come!

Wow that Labyrinth has amazing trichome production on those popcorn buds!

I know a little about breeding. Are you trying to get the DT's structure into plants like the PBM, or get more like the DT?

I made some neem cake tea recently too but my buds were 5 weeks into flower and didn't wanna spray them with it. Have you heard this leaves them tasting bitter? I use to use Einstein leaf shine neem oil, but just used a root drench of the tea this time, and sprayed the flowers with soapy water. Nothing anti bacterial, just "Palmolive pure and clear".

 

[MagicJim]

Now this Labyrinth has some beautiful flowers....I see this in my future.

and Little Monkey looks a little high to me.

 

[brightlight]

You've really gotten the Lab & DT's dialed in....this batch is strain guide material. Excellent growing & photography. Like Rosy too.

 

[bobrown14]

Wow that Labyrinth has amazing trichome production on those popcorn buds!

I know a little about breeding. Are you trying to get the DT's structure into plants like the PBM, or get more like the DT?

I made some neem cake tea recently too but my buds were 5 weeks into flower and didn't wanna spray them with it. Have you heard this leaves them tasting bitter? I use to use Einstein leaf shine neem oil, but just used a root drench of the tea this time, and sprayed the flowers with soapy water. Nothing anti bacterial, just "Palmolive pure and clear".

Yes Neem will leave a bitter flavor... but it doesn't stay around with just the tea. The oil takes longer and lingers for a few weeks.

If you can smell it you will be able to taste it.

Neem breaks down with light like most all organic teas and foilers do, and pretty quick at that. You can foiler with just plain water and rinse it off... I like to foiler without any Monterrey Garden Spray late in flower, just say some silica and some Ful-power and a lot of water. Hose em down good. Thats what I do unless I've got infestation late in flower then its full on bud washing. Thankfully I haven't had to do that much ...

I just harvested that DT #4 today... my VEG space is overgrown again so out with the old as they say.

DT #4 was one of the shorter Phenos that was a faster finisher the last round. She was 63 days today at chop - 9 weeks. She's still got a lot of pistols but she was fading pretty fast. After I chopped her I found her auto-watering system wash clogged with a few tiny baby night crawlers. So she hadn't had proper water for I would say a few days and likely why I thought she was done... she was a little wilted very slight. Ah well I needed the space. The harvest won't be what I'm used to, she needed another week to finish bulking up.

Going to be making up for it with DT-#5 &6 - they are monsters.

What I would "like" with crossing DT x PMB is the shape and size of the DT with some of the Sputnik color .... Sputnik is Apollo 13 x Black Russian, then Snow crossed Sputnik with Black Russian... and the C99 male he used with DT. So the father will be the same for both plants.

Yeah so trying to get some indica in there for some frost and faster finish and cross it with the tall pheno of the DT I'm running, and maybe a little color would be nice.

The DT is not an easy strain to run... well indoors. It stretches at least x3 all the while putting out flowers. I've never seen a plant grow like that. I'm not complaining but I've got to stay on the plants daily to keep them from burning in the lights. That and they take up a lot of room. I can't imagine what would happen if I ran one in a 15gal smartie ...prolly take up the whole flower room.

Yeah so today was harvest DT #4, Up-potted Chemdawg clone and into flower and up-potted Dolato #1 took cuts and into flower. I still have room for another plant to hook up to the water system but I don't think anymore plants will fit. I may try a short VEG plant and get her started. I'm going to harvest the Labyrinth pretty soon, gotta check trichomes and the date on the container... I know she's close.

I've got DT replacements in VEG and they are close to ready as well.. so many cuts and no space... Could up-pot to 7gal and switch VEG lighting to 12/12....'I've done that before. It gets to be a pain watering by hand since I'm spoiled, haven't done that for a long while.

All that AND I've got a round of AUTOs going... they are very small plants tho and will finish in the #3 nursery pots I've got them in.

I've got like 9 Fantasmo Express Autos going which are: Auto version of OG Ghost Train Haze. This will be the night time meds I'm thinking! If I get 5 zips from those 9 plants I'll be happy, glad they were free-bees... I think a lot of these AUTO varieties are bred running salts/nutrients. Running them in organic soil they express more ruderalis traits... tiny little plants.

Edit: check eye... didn't get any cuts from Dolato ... will have to wait for stretch and see if I can get a few in a week or so. Her branching is almost perfect.

 

[Van Stank]

Awesome thanx for the info i was guna put some ewc and water it in threw the funnel hole i have so ill jus use some kelp meal with it specially since i just literly flipped her into the flower tent 3 min ago lol

Blazin.....one other thing you can do is start adding teas to your watering schedule. Get some seabird guano.....very high in 'P' and it also has a great source of calcium....so it will help with your potential calcium deficiency and also help your flowering. Just out of curiosity, What size pot is she in? Sounds like you might be lacking a little nitrogen in there as well. One idea for that (besides EWC), is to start adding fish emulsion fertilizer. Its got very fast absorbed N, nice P, and a touch of K as well. Anyways, good luck brother!

 

[Blazinjones]

Blazin.....one other thing you can do is start adding teas to your watering schedule. Get some seabird guano.....very high in 'P' and it also has a great source of calcium....so it will help with your potential calcium deficiency and also help your flowering. Just out of curiosity, What size pot is she in? Sounds like you might be lacking a little nitrogen in there as well. One idea for that (besides EWC), is to start adding fish emulsion fertilizer. Its got very fast absorbed N, nice P, and a touch of K as well. Anyways, good luck brother!

Ok well i got her in a 5 gallon hd bucket and she is in a los mix kit soil so would that stuff over balance the mix I jus dnt wana mess it up lol but yea ive been making little batches of tea from bas craft blend which has alil bit of everything in it and she seems to be atleast making it lol

 

[GodOfPot]

If you're looking for a quick soil friendly accessible source of Ca for your plants should try checking into Demters Destiny or Herculean Harvest(liquid bone meal), HH is 0-6-0 while DD is 0-0.5-0 if you wanna avoid the P, they play nicely with your microbes too

 

[bobrown14]

I just did some major gardening today... I try and avoid doing work when ever possible but had to be done.


Noticed that my Labyrinth is on day 46 in flower.. so another few weeks (maybe not that much) to bulk up those buds.

Good thing... got a Chemdawg in VEG and she's not very happy - she's in a 5gal pot and still getting droopy every day. I think she
just wants to be in the garden with the big girls. I just put her cloned twin into flower today. She was about the same size @ 24" was droopy too, took about 4 hrs and she's perked right up. She was root bound and was hard to get her out of her #3 pot.

Had to do the "cut and squeeze"; then try the "dump over and catch"! Score...

If these COBs keep doing their thing, I'll get a couple nice size Chemdawgies for winter time flowers. I can't wait... I'm out of Chem right now.

Grass always greener.... in VEG! hahahaha

If you're looking for a quick soil friendly accessible source of Ca for your plants should try checking into Demters Destiny or Herculean Harvest(liquid bone meal), HH is 0-6-0 while DD is 0-0.5-0 if you wanna avoid the P, they play nicely with your microbes too

Awesome good to know, always interested in hearing how others deal with issues. I dindn't know about liquid bone meal stuff... interesting and thanks for sharing.

This past summer I had a DT that went dry, the water res ran out before we got home from vacay, she was pretty dry but still alive in flower. I watered 1st of course then did a slurry with some guano & watered in, and she perked right up and finished nicely.. was a little light on the yield but it was really a savior tbh. She was slumped over hard, thought she was a gonner.

You've really gotten the Lab & DT's dialed in....this batch is strain guide material. Excellent growing & photography. Like Rosy too.

Thanks BL for the kind words.. these girls do all the work, very easy to grow... well the DT is a "little" work since they like to grow 8' tall.

At the end of the day, worrying about plants outgrowing the space; it's a good thing. Only thing to worry about is pests... there's no way I'm going to catch a problem now. The under growth is so thick and there's not much light down there "yet" with all the big ass fan leaves growing. They will yellow and fall off, then the light gets down there and the popcorn turns into candy. Yeahh buddy! I've got 5 fans blowing at the soil line and some more fans higher up. Knowing my enemy is key. The "Borg" hate wind .. so wind it is!

With all that plant material growing, my RH levels are perfect, like 50-60s RH. Usually this time of year it's real dry in the flower room.

I've been slaking on seed popping... my cloner is working over time tho.

I forgot who suggested this but cleaning the cloner is directly proportional to % of success. I just got 100% roots. 2nd time that happened after tearing down the cloner and cleaning with bleach. Run some water and a tad of bleach thru the cloner for a few minutes, clean dry and re-assemble. Back to growing - roots. FTW

Man the roots I'm getting.. I think I could grow plants in just water........ wait... that's a thing! Must resist.

I have a love love relationship with worms. I even feel sad when the winter freeze comes and I know they are all mating and ... ummmm "overwintering".

Good thing tho... Worm bin change - the current compost bin is full, finally. We will now switch to the empty one we pulled a shit ton of compost/worm castings from this past spring. We will let the current bin go dormant and over winter and start using another bin. In the spring 2018 we will start digging out the compost/castings and screen it and collect the humus for soil building/mixing for next years indoor and outdoor gardens.

Now this Labyrinth has some beautiful flowers....I see this in my future.

MJ - thanks bro.. that's my little girl. She's a little terror-rizor.. eats everything... so she's going to get her share of fan leaves! She just carries them around in her mouth like chewing tobacco but cannabis fans.
Cah-Cah... give me that.... chase dog around. Human being trained by dog.

Labyrinth is a frosty girl... Chem still my favorite. Labyrinth is a nice compliment, get some lemon with the diesel and gas.

Whats not to like?

 

[Jack420]

Nicee love the

 

[TheFertilizer]

Yes Neem will leave a bitter flavor... but it doesn't stay around with just the tea. The oil takes longer and lingers for a few weeks.

If you can smell it you will be able to taste it.

Neem breaks down with light like most all organic teas and foilers do, and pretty quick at that. You can foiler with just plain water and rinse it off... I like to foiler without any Monterrey Garden Spray late in flower, just say some silica and some Ful-power and a lot of water. Hose em down good. Thats what I do unless I've got infestation late in flower then its full on bud washing. Thankfully I haven't had to do that much ...

I just harvested that DT #4 today... my VEG space is overgrown again so out with the old as they say.

DT #4 was one of the shorter Phenos that was a faster finisher the last round. She was 63 days today at chop - 9 weeks. She's still got a lot of pistols but she was fading pretty fast. After I chopped her I found her auto-watering system wash clogged with a few tiny baby night crawlers. So she hadn't had proper water for I would say a few days and likely why I thought she was done... she was a little wilted very slight. Ah well I needed the space. The harvest won't be what I'm used to, she needed another week to finish bulking up.

Going to be making up for it with DT-#5 &6 - they are monsters.

What I would "like" with crossing DT x PMB is the shape and size of the DT with some of the Sputnik color .... Sputnik is Apollo 13 x Black Russian, then Snow crossed Sputnik with Black Russian... and the C99 male he used with DT. So the father will be the same for both plants.

Yeah so trying to get some indica in there for some frost and faster finish and cross it with the tall pheno of the DT I'm running, and maybe a little color would be nice.

The DT is not an easy strain to run... well indoors. It stretches at least x3 all the while putting out flowers. I've never seen a plant grow like that. I'm not complaining but I've got to stay on the plants daily to keep them from burning in the lights. That and they take up a lot of room. I can't imagine what would happen if I ran one in a 15gal smartie ...prolly take up the whole flower room.

Yeah so today was harvest DT #4, Up-potted Chemdawg clone and into flower and up-potted Dolato #1 took cuts and into flower. I still have room for another plant to hook up to the water system but I don't think anymore plants will fit. I may try a short VEG plant and get her started. I'm going to harvest the Labyrinth pretty soon, gotta check trichomes and the date on the container... I know she's close.

I've got DT replacements in VEG and they are close to ready as well.. so many cuts and no space... Could up-pot to 7gal and switch VEG lighting to 12/12....'I've done that before. It gets to be a pain watering by hand since I'm spoiled, haven't done that for a long while.

All that AND I've got a round of AUTOs going... they are very small plants tho and will finish in the #3 nursery pots I've got them in.

I've got like 9 Fantasmo Express Autos going which are: Auto version of OG Ghost Train Haze. This will be the night time meds I'm thinking! If I get 5 zips from those 9 plants I'll be happy, glad they were free-bees... I think a lot of these AUTO varieties are bred running salts/nutrients. Running them in organic soil they express more ruderalis traits... tiny little plants.

Edit: check eye... didn't get any cuts from Dolato ... will have to wait for stretch and see if I can get a few in a week or so. Her branching is almost perfect.

I see what you mean with them being so genetically similar now. The Sputnik 1.0 f2 is almost a Black Russian back-cross, and the Acapulco Gold x C99 being bred against itself will stabilize a lot of those traits. I think the Durban Poison is the obvious wild-card and probably what's giving the DT #7 the structure it has. I think if you didn't find a pheno in the DT x PBM line that you liked, you could still probably back-cross one against the DT #7 to get the structure you like out of that.

I have always been told that foliar feeding in past mid flower is dangerous because of humidity issues, but my humidity is always low anyway, so I've been wondering if I should keep spraying water anyway. They do seem to like it, they get all perky.

Does it matter if you bubble that neem cake stuff? I put mine in a coffee filter and then threw it suspended in a bucket of water, but I didn't want to forget to aggitate it so just let the bubbles do it.

 

[4Dutchess]

Mornin Bob. I reread and searched and found all your neem cake info and wrote it down but where do I buy it and the Karanga? The Grow shop? Im adding it to my soils from now on. A foliar at times and a top dress. In fact a top dress is next and if I remember right a tbl spoons worth. AND OK IN THE 5TH WEEK IN FLOWER AS A TOP DRESS?

You said if infested bad at the end you "Bud wash" do you mean after chop/harvest? Or while its in the pot cause id like to know how if so in a pot bigger than 3 gal

Id really like to all your peoples thoughts on Demasterous Earth. If and when you would use it??

Wow Bob, howd you keep your mother inlaw from knowing your growing? Shes got to know you smoke weed?

Cute Shar Pei puppy! A cross of a chow and something else?
Great Day 420

 

[Van Stank]

Ok well i got her in a 5 gallon hd bucket and she is in a los mix kit soil so would that stuff over balance the mix I jus dnt wana mess it up lol but yea ive been making little batches of tea from bas craft blend which has alil bit of everything in it and she seems to be atleast making it lol

I don't know about it over balancing it...but if I read correctly, did you say you have been vegging that thing for 4+ months? Thats an awful long time to be vegging in a 5 gallon pot. If I was going to veg a plant for 4+ months in LOS, I would have it in a 10 gallon pot for sure. I had a plant that I vegged a lot longer than I intended due to mites (was going to scrog her because she was huge and I couldn't get her in the net while still battling mites) and she started to really yellow up. She was in a 5 gallon fabric pot but she was freaking HUGE. Now I had two other plants in the same size pots and they weren't nearly as big and bushy as she was and I never saw a single leaf yellow up untillast week on either of those other two plants in the 5 gallon fabric pots (and they are within 5 days of harvest right now). Once I started adding teas to the watering routine she really started greening back up and I have been able to get through almost to harvest at this point.

Just in the future, if you are going to go long veg times (I assume for larger plants) then I would seriously consider jumping up to at least 7 gallons pots if not 10 gallon pots. I think it will fix your issue. Again, good luck brother.

 

[GodOfPot]

Mornin Bob. I reread and searched and found all your neem cake info and wrote it down but where do I buy it and the Karanga? The Grow shop? Im adding it to my soils from now on. A foliar at times and a top dress. In fact a top dress is next and if I remember right a tbl spoons worth. AND OK IN THE 5TH WEEK IN FLOWER AS A TOP DRESS?

You said if infested bad at the end you "Bud wash" do you mean after chop/harvest? Or while its in the pot cause id like to know how if so in a pot bigger than 3 gal

Id really like to all your peoples thoughts on Demasterous Earth. If and when you would use it??
Great Day 420

Build a soil and KIS organics are the 2 spots Bob has pointed me towards for amendments .

DE could be used for a couple different things, both as an amendment or as a natural pesticide.

As an amendment you'd add it to your soil as you're mixing it with everything else, or as Bob has pointed out to me, add it to your worm bin as it helps their digestive tract and puts the Si right into the compost

As a pesticide, I believe you need to top coat your pots with it right after you've watered or something like that...you'd have to look up the exact steps never had to do it myself just read up on it once.

There's 3 grades of DE, pool grade(very dangerous), feed grade(may contain arsenic I think) and food grade, make sure to stick with food grade if you decide to use it .

 

[dr.h00k]

...Hey bob!......taken me a while to get here......but I'm gonna settle in for the winter......cheerz...h00k...

 

[bobrown14]

I see what you mean with them being so genetically similar now. The Sputnik 1.0 f2 is almost a Black Russian back-cross, and the Acapulco Gold x C99 being bred against itself will stabilize a lot of those traits. I think the Durban Poison is the obvious wild-card and probably what's giving the DT #7 the structure it has. I think if you didn't find a pheno in the DT x PBM line that you liked, you could still probably back-cross one against the DT #7 to get the structure you like out of that.

I have always been told that foliar feeding in past mid flower is dangerous because of humidity issues, but my humidity is always low anyway, so I've been wondering if I should keep spraying water anyway. They do seem to like it, they get all perky.

Does it matter if you bubble that neem cake stuff? I put mine in a coffee filter and then threw it suspended in a bucket of water, but I didn't want to forget to aggitate it so just let the bubbles do it.

With the neem cake.. I soak it in water say overnight in the fridge in a quart mason jar... filter the liquid off and do say 1/4 cup to a gal of water and spray, bubbling wont hurt just adding oxygen just dont forget and bubble too long.

Yes you are absolutely right about foilers late in flower. Mold/PM is a thing. Since I've been using horsetail fern tea foilered on early in VEG thru VEG and into flower. No more mold issues. The spores are here ... we live in Philly area, PM is how all the annuals die off in the fall. No way around it.. spores are everywhere. Get a wet warmer fall and it's full on watch out for mold. That's how I found the HT Fern thing.

Well on the seed thing.. I have at least 1 male PMB.. and he's a little runt too, well not really a runt but he's smallish and I think the other 2 are female - I have 1 confirmed female.

I know very little about genetics... other than I get bored running the same thing all the time! hehehehe

I think the pollen goes on the flowers?... how it gets there is a mystery to me. Kinda like how I got here is a mystery!

I might know a little more... but not much. All help appreciated. I think Snow created some of his seed lines to help keep some of the landrace strains intact and he left some of them to be worked on by others. Thats my take on it. So I got to thinking about which of his strains would work well together. Having the same father kinda rang a bell for me... going on "common sense" tho and in science sometimes I've found that's a good start but not the end all.

 

[4Dutchess]

Build a soil and KIS organics are the 2 spots Bob has pointed me towards for amendments .

DE could be used for a couple different things, both as an amendment or as a natural pesticide.

As an amendment you'd add it to your soil as you're mixing it with everything else, or as Bob has pointed out to me, add it to your worm bin as it helps their digestive tract and puts the Si right into the compost

As a pesticide, I believe you need to top coat your pots with it right after you've watered or something like that...you'd have to look up the exact steps never had to do it myself just read up on it once.

There's 3 grades of DE, pool grade(very dangerous), feed grade(may contain arsenic I think) and food grade, make sure to stick with food grade if you decide to use it .

I really appreciate all that GOP. ive got the fine powder, food grade. Its like dust. I will research it more. It seems to wash off. What im thinking of doing is apply it to the bottom part of the plants in the tent. I saturated the laundry veg grow last week or so with it and their nice. A hot pepper today for them and Im pulling clones this Sunday with no fucking room for em once their over a foot tall. Not sure if Im running 4-5 big Bubbas or 8 clones next run.. Lets see if the clones make it. What fun 420! Great day!

 

[MagicJim]

Congratulations man....Grow Journal of the Month December 2017

420 Magazine's Grow Journal Of The Month - December 2017

 

[dr.h00k]

Congrats Bob!......cheerz...h00k...