GROWant
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I had to cruise by and check your Journal. I just started some autos in LOS using SIP containers for a new journal. Please come by and check things out. GROWant Journal - SIPs & Living Organic Soil - Sub Irrigated Planter
Cottage 420's Organic Perpetual Indoor Garden
Blazinjones
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Thanx brotha for the info appreciate it very much so also what size containers where u putting those veg girls into when u would add a cup to a cup and a half of craft blend at transplant cause I use 5 gallon pots so would u recommend the same ammounts of craft blend b4 the flip??
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7.5 gal are my finish pots. You could add a cup to the 5gal containers you're using. Just add it at transplant, to top dress already going flowering plants its like a few tbs. and scratch in. I don't like to do it that way, as the surface of the soil gets hard and crusty. The way my setup is (water from the bottom), top dress isn't very helpful in my situation. For top watering it will likely work a little better for you. Try it.
The craft blend needs to break down to release the nutrients and I find it does that better when mixing it in like I mentioned earlier instead of top dress.
Go over to KIS organics web site... in the Podcast section Clackamas Coots did 3 interviews and they are up on YouTube. Very interesting interview. CC is the brains behind the soil recipe we use here. KIS sells all the CC mix stuff and has a bit of a different soil recipe. This interview is new like from September of this year I think. Also Jeff Lowenfels from the books "Teaming with Microbes, Teaming with Nutrients, and Teaming with Fungi" fame does an interview.... cool stuff.
Interesting how KIS Organics has switched over to the CC blend soil gear. Also pretty cool how KIS breaks down the recipe into 7.5gal size which is 1 cu. ft of soil and the same size pot we use here... not that I mix 1 cu. ft. at a time but cool anyway. Helps with the way my brain works, I don't have to do much math....
Ok so here's a last week vs the other day on stretch. The first pic the young lady in the front right is DT #4 and she's just getting going... in the 2nd pic DT #4 ... of course DT #1-3 are already harvested. I just chopped DT #1 last night had to use loppers her trunk was so thick.
DT #4 - 2 weeks ago
DT #4 11 days later moved to the back row she's about 5 1/2ft tall here and still stretching. Here's our new lamps - notice the middle COBs with the slight orange glow - that's a 1750K COB in the middle of 2 3K COBs...my total wattage draw in that room with 12 COBs is 1250watts draw at the plug. So just a hair over 100watts each. Room temps are same as ambient... I even closed up all the windows, too cold at night now. When DT #1 is dried and trmmed, I'll calculate gm/watt.
DT #1 Last pics... she's on the hook. Oooh she's a big one!
DT #1 - side buds..
DT #1 finished - Weird how she's all gold and the buds are a bright green with orange and white pistols and hairy looking.
Next Plant coming down the stretch:
Chemdawg clone... @ 45 days
Chemdawg - side buds
Chemdawg in fade @ 45 days, she's got about a week more. I may lower the light a little
Chemdawg fade...
More Chem-d coming up... they are in VEG and now I have some more room finally.
Blazinjones
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Dam bb those are some some beauties u got there ive been gettn a few more sativa going in my grow arsenal now i seen how fast n big that kali mist got which is mostly sativa i went n got some amnesia lemon which said it's a mostly sativa strain but I forgot to check the flower window n see if it was a fast one but my black domina says she Flowers in 6 to 8 weeks so not to bad being that it leans more towards the indica side i believe but yea man great lookn girls u got there interested in seeing what u get for a harvest weight off those ones u got hanging7.5 gal are my finish pots. You could add a cup to the 5gal containers you're using. Just add it at transplant, to top dress already going flowering plants its like a few tbs. and scratch in. I don't like to do it that way, as the surface of the soil gets hard and crusty. The way my setup is (water from the bottom), top dress isn't very helpful in my situation. For top watering it will likely work a little better for you. Try it.
The craft blend needs to break down to release the nutrients and I find it does that better when mixing it in like I mentioned earlier instead of top dress.
Go over to KIS organics web site... in the Podcast section Clackamas Coots did 3 interviews and they are up on YouTube. Very interesting interview. CC is the brains behind the soil recipe we use here. KIS sells all the CC mix stuff and has a bit of a different soil recipe. This interview is new like from September of this year I think. Also Jeff Lowenfels from the books "Teaming with Microbes, Teaming with Nutrients, and Teaming with Fungi" fame does an interview.... cool stuff.
Interesting how KIS Organics has switched over to the CC blend soil gear. Also pretty cool how KIS breaks down the recipe into 7.5gal size which is 1 cu. ft of soil and the same size pot we use here... not that I mix 1 cu. ft. at a time but cool anyway. Helps with the way my brain works, I don't have to do much math....
Ok so here's a last week vs the other day on stretch. The first pic the young lady in the front right is DT #4 and she's just getting going... in the 2nd pic DT #4 ... of course DT #1-3 are already harvested. I just chopped DT #1 last night had to use loppers her trunk was so thick.
DT #4 - 2 weeks ago
DT #4 11 days later moved to the back row she's about 5 1/2ft tall here and still stretching. Here's our new lamps - notice the middle COBs with the slight orange glow - that's a 1750K COB in the middle of 2 3K COBs...my total wattage draw in that room with 12 COBs is 1250watts draw at the plug. So just a hair over 100watts each. Room temps are same as ambient... I even closed up all the windows, too cold at night now. When DT #1 is dried and trmmed, I'll calculate gm/watt.
DT #1 Last pics... she's on the hook. Oooh she's a big one!
DT #1 - side buds..
DT #1 finished - Weird how she's all gold and the buds are a bright green with orange and white pistols and hairy looking.
Next Plant coming down the stretch:
Chemdawg clone... @ 45 days
Chemdawg - side buds
Chemdawg in fade @ 45 days, she's got about a week more. I may lower the light a little
Chemdawg fade...
More Chem-d coming up... they are in VEG and now I have some more room finally.
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DT #2 = 200g dry & in cure
DT #3 = 220g dry & in cure
DT #1 = still on the hook - larger by a bit than the others...
My wife said I should have weighed the plant right after chop when I had in hanging from a hook cutting off all the fan leaves. It was in a double doorway w/ 9' ceilings plant was all of 8' tall tip to soil line.
My dog was trying to nibble the fan leaves and the stalk was at the ceiling.
Had to use loppers to cut this one down. first time I had to do that. Awesome.
That plant took the space of 2 normal sized plants so I hope I get 9 zips dry out of her or I'm not going to let them get that big indoors again.
So lets say 250g dry.. under 300watts of COB ... so say .83 g/watt. I'll take that, not too bad.
Don't forget nothing but water and we were in another country for 49 days of the 91 days. I couldn't have gone away late in flower as these plants were drinking up 60gal a week going down the stretch and even at the end before chop they were gulping down the water at an even faster pace.
Now I need to go on another vacay now that all the ladies in flower are young'ins cept the Chem-d.
DT #1 was 91 days in flower
DT #2 was 65 days in flower
DT #3 was 81 days in flower
No mold, no bud rot and no pests... I did have a hic-up with mites @ 30 days when I came home for a brief re-charge from vay-cay, hit em with an IPM x 2, problem solved.
Blazinjones
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Dam man 9 zips holy jesus i cant wait till i get some plants like that lol i really can't wait till i move to my new grow spot once we get r new house up but thts still a few months off still but yea man nice job on the harvest very impressed
Helluva grow Bob. .
GodOfPot
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That Chemdawg looks absolutely stunning and delicious, looking forward to growing some myself
Sounds like you filled up afew stash jars with a interesting looking strain... That's a good chunk of product............. Congrats on the harvest and Keepem Green
MagicJim
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Just gorgeous....great haul on these DTs
I'm guessing DT#1 will be closer to 11 oz since the other two came in at 7-8 oz
MagicJim
Creme de la Creme Photos: Sept 2016
My package arrived today. I really wasn't expecting the horsetail fern and those other treats.
Anyhow...Thank You! What a surprise! I'm going to try the comfrey salve tonight. Thank your wife for me.
The shoulder has actually made quite a recovery just with that shot of cortisone. But that stuff has a life span will provide no benefit sometime down the road.
Anyhow...Thank You! What a surprise! I'm going to try the comfrey salve tonight. Thank your wife for me.
The shoulder has actually made quite a recovery just with that shot of cortisone. But that stuff has a life span will provide no benefit sometime down the road.
My package arrived today. I really wasn't expecting the horsetail fern and those other treats.
Anyhow...Thank You! What a surprise! I'm going to try the comfrey salve tonight. Thank your wife for me.
The shoulder has actually made quite a recovery just with that shot of cortisone. But that stuff has a life span will provide no benefit sometime down the road.
The nice thing about cortisone, is that for some conditions, one shot is all you ever need. I've had 3 cortisone shots in my life. The first two were one shot wonders that cleared tendon inflamation due to bonespur type deposits - the deposits were reabsorbed and the condition did not re-occur.
The third shot was 15 years later and did nothing except hurt a lot after I was injected. The doctor did not want to give it, he wanted to schedule an operation. In retrospect, I wonder if he just gave me a painful placebo shot.
If your shoulder condition is based on a persisting problem, cortisone will only get you through this rough patch - it sound like you are taking an inteligent approach. Good fortune with that.
Conradino23
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Cortisone is a short-term solution. I had to get injections a few times due to strong back pain, but it also gave me some shitty side effects. I never liked it, but if nothing else helps, you go for it. I've just prepared some CBD infused olive oil and it works great for pain management.
Cortisone wasn't real effective with my back. I was getting 6 injections per time (L3-L4, L4-L5, L5-S1 on both the left and right side of spine). It would give me about a weeks worth of relief and then the pain is back. CBD oil alone doesn't give me the pain relief I need.....it helps but not as well as smoking something with THC does. Just picked up the Magic Butter Machine and going to try to make some lotions/creams and see if that will provide any relief. I am hoping they will help with the muscle spasms as well.
MagicJim
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This is the second time I've had a cortisone injection in the shoulder and got some relief. I'm not sure how long the first injection might have lasted because the doc ordered the MRI and all the damage was discovered and we headed for surgery about a month and a half later. Of course, being such a terrible patient 4 months later I had revision surgery. Doc said the tendons weren't in great condition and described them as like wet Kleenex. I had 2 rounds of physical therapy and that shoulder is pretty much pain free just not 100%. Overhead work or even reaching up is problematic.
This new doc thinks I can rehab this shoulder through exercise without surgery or going to physical therapy. I've got a print out of all the exercises and I'll give it a rip. Of course I have to stop doing things that might re-injure this thing. As for the exercises, I'll have to view this as a priority. Lakein's Law: What is the most important thing for me to do right now?
As for the back. Mine is not much better as I have degenerative disc disorder and bulging disc at L3-L4. There was one other area of minor damage and that MRI was taken 11 years ago. I still have problems but got the back better with walking and exercise. The sciatica in the right leg is much better and my walking stick is in the closet. As for muscle spasms in the low back, I still have them but it's usually a result of me trying to do too much and hydration issues. Docs all cite cigarette smoking as a root cause of DDD.
Now about oil. I have plenty of infused olive oil. One capsule gets me pretty damn high for hours. I still have whatever pain I got up with.....it's just a bit more pleasant to handle. Perhaps I'm so stoned that areas of pain are not sending intense pain signals to the brain.
I'm probably going to grow a balanced CBD/THC strain one day. Then maybe I'll be able to confirm pain killing abilities (at least for me). Inflammation causes most of my pain and I believe it possible for those finding relief for cannabis are getting some reduction of inflammation through the ECS.
Possible Ace in the hole. I'm growing my first pure indica - Pakistan Valley. I remember one website that listed the five best and I've got three of them. I'm still not convinced of pain relief of any of them. Maybe I grew them wrong.
What you describe is pretty much NOT how to prescribe cortisone. If that doc suggests cortisone injections again, I, personally, would get a new doctor.
CBD oil helps with inflamation which helps - a bit - with pain.
THC helps pain more directly, but as Magic Jim describes some of it isn't removing the pain so much as limiting how much you care as about the pain. THC helps manage the emotional component of pain as well as directly promoting healing and health.
No, he told going into it that he would only shoot me up twice. The MRI showed that whole area as the problem area so he wanted to test as nerve blockers and making sure he found the right area. Next step is deciding if I want to have Radio Frequency Ablation procedure to burn the nerves in that area. But even that is a clusterfuck as this a workers comp case so they seem to be dragging their feet. But they are paying me to sit at home and grow pot so if they don't want to follow up THEIR JOB well, thats their business. Just went over a year since the injury. Crazy.....a year without working. I never missed a day of work in my life before this.
Chronic pain sucks...... Nothing really moderates it long term.
GL all and Keepem Green
GL all and Keepem Green
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DT #2 = 200g dry & in the cans
DT #3 = 220g dry & in cans
DT #1 = 275g dry and in cans
So almost 25 zips dry.... 3 plants. That's off the hook for me.
Put them in flower and left for a month vacation out of country. Leave them alone, they know what they are doing!
They were clones that were in VEG about 6 weeks from roots to flower room, each plant was about 20-24" tall @ flip.
Here's a pic I took @ flip - the tall one I chopped when I got home at the end of August - the other 3 VEG plants are DT #1,2 & 3:
Close to chop a few weeks early. Basically the longer each went the yield was bigger. I'm going to let the next round go 90 days each one. DT #1 had a few nanners forming and I found 3 seeds that were too small and not mature. So I pushed her a little far but the produce is perfect. Not as racy and the early picked plants are.
@ 70ish days after putting into VEG. This was taken right before DT #2 (center plant w/ curling colas) was chopped.
same group shot b-4 harvest
Harvest pics dried and trimmed.
DT #1 275g dry - that large C-vault holds about 6 zips dried:
Couple of nice nugs
Some frost
Some more frost
Close up frost
All the buds are covered in long pistols like this... this is dried! Mix of white and light orange.
Hairy Cola....
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