Cannabis Oil Dosing Tutorial: Tacking Method

[faceless42001]

Cool, that's good to know.

I'd just like to hear from people who tack with the oil to know if a slight sting for about ten minutes is normal or not?

Edit: Also what's a good starting regimen? One tack per day for four days then increase to two? Adding one tack every four days?

 

[Mariamlu]

Cajuncelt, what do you think of using back door method with brain cancer? I can tolerate cannabis oil with this method much better. I am doing it now, and I can feel oil in my head, but I can also do other things, not sleep half the days. While tacking I have to sleep.

 

[CajunCelt]

Cool, that's good to know.

I'd just like to hear from people who tack with the oil to know if a slight sting for about ten minutes is normal or not?

Edit: Also what's a good starting regimen? One tack per day for four days then increase to two? Adding one tack every four days?

The membrane might just be very sensitive. Give it another week & let us know if it still occurs. One tack per day is not enough. Tack 5x a day to keep constant pressure on the disease. Start with smaller doses, not smaller frequency.

Cajuncelt, what do you think of using back door method with brain cancer? I can tolerate cannabis oil with this method much better. I am doing it now, and I can feel oil in my head, but I can also do other things, not sleep half the days. While tacking I have to sleep.

It's better than nothing obviously, but my opinion is that tacking is the method you want to use for brain cancer.
The CB1 receptors are located mainly in the brain & CNS. Tacking will ensure they are activated quickly, but the ML of cannabinoids in the system will be minimal with tacking.
So I'd suggest you do both.
Tack a tiny amount about 30 mins prior to the suppositories.

See my 1st post on the thread in my signature. I am spiltting up the methods of dosing as well & explain how/why.

If you want to avoid the lethargy of the oil, try a sativa dominant strain too. You shouldn't feel that sleepy through tacking even with a strong Indica. You might be accidently ingesting the oil. How much are you dosing at 1 time?

Hope this helps. Keep us posted.

 

[CajunCelt]

A friend's son is 19 months into surviving advanced Crohns with CO.
A good friend is also 36 months "no signs of disease", stage 4 prostate cancer. Using CO.
I'm coming up on my 4 year anny myself.

Keep up the fight!

 

[faceless42001]

Is it ok to do both? Tack and ingest (not right at the same time)?

 

[CCOiler]

Hi Faceless, it is always best to tack first before any other protocol, this will keep the euphoric down. Also, if your mom starts to feel euphoric she can take a 911 small tack. Good luck.

 

[Mariamlu]

Thank you for replying, Cajuncelt!
I have read your thread and I read it again. Thank you for sharing your research and experience!
I would like to say thank you to everybody here. You all make me feel, that I am not alone in this world, with what I do and believe in. My oil family. You said it Cajun I think first.
I have been tacking since November 2014. I got up to 0,15 g per day with 4-5 tacks. Being very sleepy 2 or 3 hours per day. From my gums the oil goes slowly into my stomach with saliva and food. That is sure happening.
Up to now I had unknown buds to make my oil.
Now I have my first crop cured. Me not knowing what I was doing, it is super silver haze. Sativa, THC. It has to be this until my next crop, which will be Critical Cure from CBD Crue, 1:1 CBD/THC. I am at least learning.
I take one suppository in smallest capsule, which has 0,2 g of CO, when I go to sleep. I do not have bigger capsules, yet. Pure CO, no room for olive oil in this tiny capsule.
I tack one rice grain size tack before suppository. Then I go to sleep.
Second tack per day, without suppository, I have in afternoon.
In day-time I work and do not use oil. But I feel the oil in my head in day time and any tiny tack would be over the board (tried it).
I can slowly increase the doses via suppository. This I can do, which is great I think. I could make even two tiny capsules instead of one. I just wonder, if this will slowly increase my general tolerance.
I have tried citicoline. It reduces the top peak of high in some amount. But it seems to me this citicoline is messing around with my brain. I have brain cancer, so I thought maybe not have it.

 

[94xjjohn]

Sorry for the re-re-post...I get carried away!

May 2015......PSA = 556.-- Go home and pack it up......why are you still alive? I immediately started tacking CO and soon was tacking 10 times a day.

July 2015.....PSA = 504.-- Going in good direction, but I thought it would go faster....bitch, bitch, bitch! You're alive !!!

Oct. 27, 2015...PSA = 3.36

WOW, it did go fast....6 full months, 10 large tacks a day, no sign of prostate cancer...PTL.

Thanks to all the little people who made this day possible, and I'd love to say this:

FUCH YOU !!! To those who said I was crazy to trust my life to POT....... HA!!!

 

[CCOiler]

OUTSTANDING JOHN

OUTSTANDING, I have a big lump in my throat and a glow in my heart.

CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU BROTHER



cancer

 

[94xjjohn]

Good Morning Everybody!


Aint life grand?

 

[94xjjohn]

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Thank You Tim and Mo For My Life

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I'm forever in your debt and wildly in love with you both...thanks for the encouragement, the knowledge, the courage, the will to cary on, to act and not just lay here and die.

I will dance every day in your honor!

 

[Lady Cannafan]

Sorry for the re-re-post...I get carried away!

May 2015......PSA = 556.-- Go home and pack it up......why are you still alive? I immediately started tacking CO and soon was tacking 10 times a day.

July 2015.....PSA = 504.-- Going in good direction, but I thought it would go faster....bitch, bitch, bitch! You're alive !!!

Oct. 27, 2015...PSA = 3.36

WOW, it did go fast....6 full months, 10 large tacks a day, no sign of prostate cancer...PTL.

Thanks to all the little people who made this day possible, and I'd love to say this:

FUCH YOU !!! To those who said I was crazy to trust my life to POT....... HA!!!

OMG!!!! This truly gives me the most positive feeling I've had since starting the oil!

Literally teary eyed here John!

So...so .....so HAPPY and RELIEVED for you! You have a whole life ahead of you now...get out and enjoy it.....and take the oil with you wherever you go.

 

[wildjim]

Sorry for the re-re-post...I get carried away!

May 2015......PSA = 556.-- Go home and pack it up......why are you still alive? I immediately started tacking CO and soon was tacking 10 times a day.

July 2015.....PSA = 504.-- Going in good direction, but I thought it would go faster....bitch, bitch, bitch! You're alive !!!

Oct. 27, 2015...PSA = 3.36

WOW, it did go fast....6 full months, 10 large tacks a day, no sign of prostate cancer...PTL.

Thanks to all the little people who made this day possible, and I'd love to say this:

That is so fantastic 94xjjohn.

God's Medicine works wonders. Say a prayer of Thanks.

WJ

 

[94xjjohn]

OUTSTANDING JOHN

OUTSTANDING, I have a big lump in my throat and a glow in my heart.

CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU BROTHER



cancer

Thank you Oiler my friend, and I will start a cure journal (I know, don't say cure), good idea!

OMG!!!! This truly gives me the most positive feeling I've had since starting the oil!

Literally teary eyed here John!

So...so .....so HAPPY and RELIEVED for you! You have a whole life ahead of you now...get out and enjoy it.....and take the oil with you wherever you go.

After saving my life, I don't think I'll ever be without it again and it is my new quest to find cancer patients and help them with their meds so that 'cure' is a word that we DO use when speaking of cancer! (or any other serious illness)

That is so fantastic 94xjjohn.

God's Medicine works wonders. Say a prayer of Thanks.

WJ

Thanks WildJim. And yes, I've said the prayer of THANKS and will every day I have left!

NOW LETS GET OUT THERE AND CURE EVERYONE ELSE !!!

 

[nobby32]

Sorry for the re-re-post...I get carried away!

May 2015......PSA = 556.-- Go home and pack it up......why are you still alive? I immediately started tacking CO and soon was tacking 10 times a day.

July 2015.....PSA = 504.-- Going in good direction, but I thought it would go faster....bitch, bitch, bitch! You're alive !!!

Oct. 27, 2015...PSA = 3.36

WOW, it did go fast....6 full months, 10 large tacks a day, no sign of prostate cancer...PTL.

Thanks to all the little people who made this day possible, and I'd love to say this:

FUCH YOU !!! To those who said I was crazy to trust my life to POT....... HA!!!

Wow!!

Great news John! and I must say, all your extremely positive posts as well as your bizarre sense of humour left it it little doubt that if anyone was gonna be fixed, it was gonna be you!

Well done mate! Congratulations and may you prosper well into this century!!!

Cheers, Nobby

 

[420 Motoco]

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Thank You Tim and Mo For My Life

...... ...... ...... ...... ...... ...... ...... ...... ...... ...... ...... ......

I'm forever in your debt and wildly in love with you both...thanks for the encouragement, the knowledge, the courage, the will to cary on, to act and not just lay here and die.

I will dance every day in your honor!

Congrations John! Wow, considering your overall health prior to starting the concentrate with PTSD/Cancer plus an unknown heart condition/liver, having a heart attack in the middle of your healing regimen, six months seems logical if not spectacular, lol. God has his hand on you Brother, make the most of it. Stay focused on tapering down, pay it forward Brother, you have a lot to share. Mo gives her best as I do also. Happy for you Brother! Everyday has a new meaning now, use them. God Bless

 

[nobby32]

During the past 3 months I've been trying to beat my stage 4 prostate cancer with bone mets with natural methods.

For the past 3 years I've been taking hormone therapy - Lucrin injections at 4 monthly intervals and its been keeping my PSA in check, but it is becoming less effective.

Instead of my last injection I asked my doctor's blessing to try the CO which I had made. He ok'd it and gave me three months in which to try this "alternative" treatment which he'd never heard of.

My PSA was 16, and he expected it would rise to about 40 in the three months if I had no treatment.

1. A year ago I researched and read all the posts here
2. Bought the right seeds and grew my plants organically
3. Harvested, dried and cured my crop
4. Did a smoking test and got totally wasted
5. Bought a distiller and all the peripheral gear
6. Researched again and made the oil with very expensive grain alcohol. Got 68 grams CO
7. Did small ingesting tests all along the way and got appropriately stoned on minuscule amounts
8. Tried many times to tack, but too much saliva made it extremely difficult
9. After more research I mixed the CO 1:1 with organic coconut oil and went with the back door method using 1ml syringes by day (sativa) and night (indica)
10. Did the 60 grams in about 7 weeks, leaving 8 grams for ongoing maintenance doses

I couldn't wait for another 4 weeks for the results so I saw my GP and got a PSA test.

Against all expectations my PSA has risen dramatically to 106.

I am in shock and wondering what I did wrong (I was so careful at every step of the way) or if anybody has any idea as to why this has happened.

My wife particularly is devastated, as we had been so positive that the CO was at least going to keep the cancer at bay, if not put me into remission.

Anyone got any ideas?

A not very cheerful Nobby

 

[CajunCelt]

During the past 3 months I've been trying to beat my stage 4 prostate cancer with bone mets with natural methods.

For the past 3 years I've been taking hormone therapy - Lucrin injections at 4 monthly intervals and its been keeping my PSA in check, but it is becoming less effective.

Instead of my last injection I asked my doctor's blessing to try the CO which I had made. He ok'd it and gave me three months in which to try this "alternative" treatment which he'd never heard of.

My PSA was 16, and he expected it would rise to about 40 in the three months if I had no treatment.

1. A year ago I researched and read all the posts here
2. Bought the right seeds and grew my plants organically
3. Harvested, dried and cured my crop
4. Did a smoking test and got totally wasted
5. Bought a distiller and all the peripheral gear
6. Researched again and made the oil with very expensive grain alcohol. Got 68 grams CO
7. Did small ingesting tests all along the way and got appropriately stoned on minuscule amounts
8. Tried many times to tack, but too much saliva made it extremely difficult
9. After more research I mixed the CO 1:1 with organic coconut oil and went with the back door method using 1ml syringes by day (sativa) and night (indica)
10. Did the 60 grams in about 7 weeks, leaving 8 grams for ongoing maintenance doses

I couldn't wait for another 4 weeks for the results so I saw my GP and got a PSA test.

Against all expectations my PSA has risen dramatically to 106.

I am in shock and wondering what I did wrong (I was so careful at every step of the way) or if anybody has any idea as to why this has happened.

My wife particularly is devastated, as we had been so positive that the CO was at least going to keep the cancer at bay, if not put me into remission.

Anyone got any ideas?

A not very cheerful Nobby

Hey Nobby. It can be very frustrating, but hang in there. Everybody's metabolism is different & it takes a lil time to find what is right for you.
It's possible that it will take longer. Maybe the Lucrin affected the CB receptors. It could be the cancer dying as well. My CEA count skyrocketed, usually meaning metastasis & death soon, right before my tumor reduced in size & CEA went to normal.
I almost died several times using CO until I dialed in my protocol. I had several patients that decided to follow the method of dosing I was using at the time that almost died as well. It sucks because you, I & others are Stage 4, & don't have time.

Here's a few suggestions:
1. Try tacking in the top lip, not bottom. This is an old snuff dippers trick that will minimize the saliva.
2. Up your dosage.
3. Try a different method of dosing after you know the current is not working.
4. Are you cleansing your CB receptors?
5. Any current meds that could be acting as antagonists with the EDS?
6. Keep on current path & re-verify in 30 days?
7. Diet plays a huge part in fighting cancer. What's your diet look like?

 

[420 Motoco]

Hi nobby32, I remember you, you came in right before I left. I go in for a procedure tomorrow, blockage issues in the legs. This post caught my attention through 'subscription' to this thread, which for some reason I haven't seen many or the 'thread' is dead?

Anyway if I may I'll address a couple of things. Was this your first grow? Did you smoke pot prior to your grow? By chance did you have your CCO tested? It's been my experience first time growers usually produce flowers coming in about 14% THC. Back in time; 6-7% THC got us stoned. Potency levels are important. Not saying anything negative, just reviewing.

In your oil making process did you decarboxylate your oil at 250 degrees until it completely stopped moving, flat like a 'glass' lake with no nipples appearing? Again, just reviewing. Also what was your grain alcohol percentage?

More important details now; I see you started off by ingesting small amounts of max potency of your concentrate. Unfortunately we couldn't do this anymore. Apparently it seems with your saliva issues it drained down faster than it got to your CB1 receptors first, and you got stoned, is this correct? If you couldn't tack correctly the application was wrong. I don't have time to track down the updated method I posted about the same time you came in. Perhaps RSOiler knows where this post is? If you dry your gums off properly, the oil adheres to the gums in ONE swipe. Trying to get the rest off your finger doesn't work and makes the application dose worse and it drains down too fast. Also you do not swallow for 15 minutes. Simply spit out the saliva. Once mastered you do not saliva as much simply because you don't think about it once the protocol becomes redundant. Always eat something first before dosing. When on the concentrated oil its important to hydrate a lot and snack in between meals otherwise your body is craving nutrients and water. Without a constant supply of these you become nauseous because of dehydration and lack of nutrients. When this happens simply drink water and eat a snack and in 10-15 minutes it goes away. When this becomes 'muscle memory' it never occurs. Can you give a short explanation on how you felt 'tacking'? Thank you.

This is probably most important; when people are given a time frame for any type of treatment it causes stress beyond what most people would think. Its natural to all unless experienced on how to cope with stress. It starts off simmering and then it builds up and can become a full blown 'panic' attack. When and IF the TF3 master switch is triggered it can cause good cancer cells to turn 'traitor' and your cancer can rise dramatically. Best attack plan is distraction. You have to keep your head in a positive thinking mode. Change negative thoughts to positive thoughts. Talk to the Wife about other things. If tacking properly and the oil gets seated in your CB1 receptors first then it helps to control stress by regulating your blood pressure, sugar levels, heart rate etc, if the oil drains down faster, it causes irregular heart beats and other things are not controlled but exaggerated especially 'dwelling' on your Cancer and negative thoughts. You changed protocols 3 times. Started off with full strength oil and then cut it half. Stress/anxiety does this. A lot of people do this, you're not alone. In most cases like yours everyone wants to take as much as possible in a short amount of time, this doesn't mean the cancer will go away quicker. Its consistency and a strict protocol which includes, eating, hydrating and sleeping. Jumping from one protocol to another can be harmful also.

When using CCO and doing PSA test they can be very misleading. Time and time again I've seen PSA counts go up and up but yet their immune system is getting stronger. Conclusion; the PSA test counts dead cancer cells also. Of course everyone wants these test to see where there cancer is at but on the same hand it causes stress also which normally results in less sleep lowering the immune system. 60 grams in 7 weeks? Also keep in mind; this is from notes from other people treating their cancer with CO, the counts always go up, then they peak, level off and the last part of the treatment it plummets down quickly. But, if one watches their counts so closely it like watching/waiting for water to boil. Stress/anxiety is the biggest reason ANY regimen doesn't work. Even stress/anxiety starting to 'stew' isn't good. It creates negative thoughts you're going through right now. This is why 'tacking' can excell done properly. It puts your head in a much better positive frame of mind. Just like XJohn went through. I honestly think you're doing much better than what your PSA test says. Just so you know I've some some pretty crazy test results and if you research these test you will find they are not that accurate in some cases, especially as mentioned they seem to go up 'almost double' in some cases before they crash down. As hard as it is right now your Wife and you need to get in a positive mode. Especially now! I honestly think your PSA count with the volume of oil you have taken is lower than 106 and you're much closer than you think! Get your head thinking positive, it does wonders. Again, especially right now. I cannot tell you how many people gave up at this stage when they were really close to the finnish. So much mental issues come into play. Work on controlling your anxiety, they are your worst enemy.

In review; reading your post and the amount of oil you have taken its my opinion your PSA count is lower than the actual 106 as the test doesn't distinguish between live and dead cancer cells ( Dr.s opinion, some say they don't really know, some say it doesn't tell the difference between dead and live cancer cells). Based off our experience keeping notes, your actual PSA could be half of 106. This is where a mentor really comes into play, keeping the protocol on point, consistency (not the case) and keeping your thoughts positive simply because stress/anxiety can do damage and quickly if not checked. Perhaps Xjohn can pipe in and explain how important it is to keep 'happy' thoughts. I'll be rehabbing myself soon after my procedure and that involves most of my day outside walking, then build up to full on cardio and I simply have to focus on getting my cardio built up. Hope this gave you some insight Brother! Oh and a side not about these hormone blockers. Have you seen the side effects? Just like their chemo pill counterparts. Check out the side effects if you haven't. Take care.

 

[94xjjohn]

With seven and a half years of counseling due to a lifetime of untreated combat PTSD (a STRESS disorder), I've learned what a killer stress is. I was told I'd die of a stress induced problem no matter what I did to try to prevent it. Well that's pretty fuching depressing! And guess what depression causes?...........DOH!!!........stress.

Didn't hear that? Let me repeat myself:STRESS KILLS !!!

What can we do about it? Just thinking about stress is stressful, damn it!

I wish you'd allow me to pass along what others have shared with me. I wish you would believe the truth behind this simple solution.

But you won't.

You probably won't even give it a try.

It seems way too easy.

You'll probably just go on to reading another post.

"I'll check it out when I have more time." you'll say

"I've already heard it before." you'll say

Here's what I say:

You WANT to be a victim if you don't TRY something New if whatyou are doing is not working as wellas you'd like.

Your survival lesson for the day (we start with the most important):

Left click 'Happy' in my signature.

Why are you still here? Click it or ticket (to victimhood).

Lesson spelled out for you: You must learn to condition your big brain with regular doses of positive input.
Learn the words, own the vibe, be the happy. Sing this song out loud every day. MAKE your brain appreciate.

Are you still here? Go .......with love, John.