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Hey Brother, wow you guys have been hit hard! No, no tornado's just quakes, lol.
Cannabis Oil Dosing Tutorial: Tacking Method
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Hey Brother, wow you guys have been hit hard! No, no tornado's just quakes, lol.
SAMtheAPman
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Leafly and a couple of other websites do list VK as a good indica for sleep though. I haven't been using it long enough, or tried other oils to make an informed comment yet, but I do get relaxed from the tacking of VK oil.
SmokesDaKush
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I don't want to start a chain of events here, so I will keep my comments minimal at this time. Cajun I appreciate your honesty and take on things. Motoco, you know I've seen great things with strictly tacking, also sorry if this caused a hiccup for you. You both raise valid points and I'm trapped in the middle. I'm no caregiver and I do not affiliate with anyone in the cannabis field, medical or recreational, as such this is my only source for information regarding the treatment with CO. As you've mentioned desperation can make a person do rash things. All I want again, is a fair chance at beating this! I would also really love to enjoy this summer as I haven't in the past, once it's gone it's gone, frankly I'm tired of it. I will ponder before I change anything but just know this is really confusing to me.
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CajunCelt
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I don't want to start a chain of events here, so I will keep my comments minimal at this time. Cajun I appreciate your honesty and take on things. Motoco, you know I've seen great things with strictly tacking, also sorry if this caused a hiccup for you. You both raise valid points and I'm trapped in the middle. I'm no caregiver and I do not affiliate with anyone in the cannabis field, medical or recreational, as such this is my only source for information regarding the treatment with CO. As you've mentioned desperation can make a person do rash things. All I want again, is a fair chance at beating this! I would also really love to enjoy this summer as I haven't in the past, once it's gone it's gone, frankly I'm tired of it. I will ponder before I change anything but just know this is really confusing to me.
I'm sorry Smokey about the mixed signals. I would suggest to everyone that if what you're doing is working, you can rest. You found your method, dosage, all. Be confident in it. It's working. Any additional info I state is mainly for folks that aren't seeing results with their current protocol.
If your tacking & healing, just put on the ignore button when I respond to the folks still searching.
The pros of tacking are proven. Great bioavailability, competent activating the CB1 receptors, small dose means less money/meds, easily accomplished dosing, and much more.
I'll add that no matter what method of delivery, I still tack 1st.
Conventional medicine can't give you all the answers.
Imagine where the mmj field stands on available answers then.
We're all so close to firmer answers, but we're all still pioneers.
Thankfully, the partial merging of pharma/canna is making the how's/why's come a lil quicker, but we've a ways to go.
A man I'm in a group with beat his cancer (stage 4 colon/liver) by eating carrots & berries. Been in remission for 3.5 years now. No chemo, meds, cannabis. Others have beaten the exact same cancer I have with everything from tumeric to black powder. They feel as strongly about their protocol as us canna folks do. They swear by it.
I guess I'm like WebMD. Factual, but maybe to much so. Treat us the same. If its working, ignore all or most other info to avoid confusion or even loss of confidence in your treatment.
That's the worst. So keep the ignore button at the ready sometimes when I post.
Treatment working: ignore
Still in trouble: listen
SmokesDaKush
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No need to apologize, I came looking for answers, I was just hoping it was much smoother this time around. 
I'm a big boy I can handle some hard truth so, the ignore button won't be needed, didn't even know there was one. I just don't know if I'm healing is the thing. Is it a "valium" thing that is band-aiding it? Do I feel good spirit wise, mostly and probably better then I have in some time. I'd also like to point out that I felt great spirit wise digesting as well, very much enjoy all it has to offer, spiritual medicine if you will. Thing is I seem to hit these plateaus where things just go dormant or backwards. I'll admit that tacking doesn't seem to go as far backwards as digesting did and things seem to get back on track much quicker. I still vape concentrates more then I should if that plays a part but my home life has quite a few suck butt moments as anyones can, it's my way out. Perhaps you say it better cajun, it may be a lack of confidence rather then confusion.
My exact thoughts are I don't want to be wasting time with one or the other right now for so many reasons. I'll spare detail for identification fears but I'm sure you all can relate, it's not just my life being effected now. If I need a gram minimally to kill cancer, I have no problem with that and could start it right now. If I need 3 grams I'll plan my grows according to make it happen, these things need time yet how do we know how long we really have!? But yet... Throw away everything I have been working at so far, blah blah blah... A vicious cycle I really don't want to go through anymore. I was at a really bad place before I finally reached out to Motoco. I've shared some things now so I guess I have no embarrassment of sharing this now, not sure why I would be to begin with but I do. I had lost probably about 85-90% use of my arm and shoulder with all surrounding joints being very limited with there movement including my chest to say the least. This happens to correspond with that new mass as well. Under Motoco's guidance I began his protocol, although I started out full steam because of my current tolerance. Don't remember the exact but it seems like within a few weeks maybe less, I started getting movement back, continue on some time and joints where much more free and I can use my arm again. Things are still much better then before but as I said it can balance on both sides at times. So does that mean I have not found the right treatment as you say?
Maybe that's why Motoco seemed to think I was being difficult. I need to keep faith in one or the other or a combination of both or anal or carrots... I'm totally sure you all get what I'm saying... Please don't take this as me being negative or anything either cause I'm not. It's just some recent events have stirred up a few emotions. I'd really like to fast track this to begin amending some things I've broken in the process. 
I'm a big boy I can handle some hard truth so, the ignore button won't be needed, didn't even know there was one. I just don't know if I'm healing is the thing. Is it a "valium" thing that is band-aiding it? Do I feel good spirit wise, mostly and probably better then I have in some time. I'd also like to point out that I felt great spirit wise digesting as well, very much enjoy all it has to offer, spiritual medicine if you will. Thing is I seem to hit these plateaus where things just go dormant or backwards. I'll admit that tacking doesn't seem to go as far backwards as digesting did and things seem to get back on track much quicker. I still vape concentrates more then I should if that plays a part but my home life has quite a few suck butt moments as anyones can, it's my way out. Perhaps you say it better cajun, it may be a lack of confidence rather then confusion.My exact thoughts are I don't want to be wasting time with one or the other right now for so many reasons. I'll spare detail for identification fears but I'm sure you all can relate, it's not just my life being effected now. If I need a gram minimally to kill cancer, I have no problem with that and could start it right now. If I need 3 grams I'll plan my grows according to make it happen, these things need time yet how do we know how long we really have!? But yet... Throw away everything I have been working at so far, blah blah blah... A vicious cycle I really don't want to go through anymore.
I was at a really bad place before I finally reached out to Motoco. I've shared some things now so I guess I have no embarrassment of sharing this now, not sure why I would be to begin with but I do. I had lost probably about 85-90% use of my arm and shoulder with all surrounding joints being very limited with there movement including my chest to say the least. This happens to correspond with that new mass as well. Under Motoco's guidance I began his protocol, although I started out full steam because of my current tolerance. Don't remember the exact but it seems like within a few weeks maybe less, I started getting movement back, continue on some time and joints where much more free and I can use my arm again. Things are still much better then before but as I said it can balance on both sides at times. So does that mean I have not found the right treatment as you say?Maybe that's why Motoco seemed to think I was being difficult. I need to keep faith in one or the other or a combination of both or anal or carrots...
I'm totally sure you all get what I'm saying... Please don't take this as me being negative or anything either cause I'm not. It's just some recent events have stirred up a few emotions. I'd really like to fast track this to begin amending some things I've broken in the process. 
Hi Smokey,
I wish you peace, you sound tormented.
It seems to me that, if you followed Motoco's protocol and improved, you've found your treatment. We all hit plateaus in treatment, exercise, physical therapy, mental therapy, any improvement we try. Take up a musical instrument and see how constant your learning curve is! NOT.
Stay strong. You've seen the oil work. If it takes 2 grams a day for 10 years.........JUST FUKIN DO IT----WHATEVER IT TAKES!!!!!!!!! Live, Smokey, LIVE. YOU CAN DO THIS.
Look Smokey, you have a whole cheering section all to yourself... not too shabby!
You help me, I'll help you, we'll make it together.
And quit holding your nose, it looks silly.
You help me, I'll help you, we'll make it together.
And quit holding your nose, it looks silly.
Just chillin', waiting to sign for my first 5 gals. of Kleen Extract. Very excited!
CajunCelt
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Smokey,
I guage my progress & dosing on my labs & scans. My labs are every 2 weeks & scans are every 3 months. Those timeframe tell me pretty quick if I need to up my dosage.
If you don't have these performed regularly, I'd suggest researching paths to get them. It's really the only way to know for sure. I know lots of assistance organizations that kick in for these services.
I get the feeling you're on a good path. But, That's an open question without the numbers.
You're probably having symptom anxiety, at least I do at times.
Wish I could help more, but without labs it's almost a shot in the dark.
The few patients in able to help do to location all have regular tests done. With the lab #'s, we're able to see tons.
As far as ingesting, if ya go that route, of suggest the Canna Budwig Protocol. The bioavailability is off the chart & you can control so much with a few additives.
Tacking activates the CB receptors, but there are more CB receptors on the colon than in the brain. These can be activated & controlled through receptor cleansing & a few natural additives.
I guage my progress & dosing on my labs & scans. My labs are every 2 weeks & scans are every 3 months. Those timeframe tell me pretty quick if I need to up my dosage.
If you don't have these performed regularly, I'd suggest researching paths to get them. It's really the only way to know for sure. I know lots of assistance organizations that kick in for these services.
I get the feeling you're on a good path. But, That's an open question without the numbers.
You're probably having symptom anxiety, at least I do at times.
Wish I could help more, but without labs it's almost a shot in the dark.
The few patients in able to help do to location all have regular tests done. With the lab #'s, we're able to see tons.
As far as ingesting, if ya go that route, of suggest the Canna Budwig Protocol. The bioavailability is off the chart & you can control so much with a few additives.
Tacking activates the CB receptors, but there are more CB receptors on the colon than in the brain. These can be activated & controlled through receptor cleansing & a few natural additives.
Not so chill, still----still waiting on UPS to bring the extract stuff. I guess not today....
Hi all,
This is a reply to SAMtheAPman cos I can't message him yet.
RE Distiller:
Hi Sam, I've only used it the one time so I'm not exactly an expert. After a lot of research I bought the Megahome Alcohol Distiller MH-DA4B which is a special low wattage version of their water distiller. I marked some millimetre divisions on the side of the glass collector and stopped distilling when I got to 750ml, from the 1 litre I used. I could maybe have gone to 80% recovery or higher but I wanted to be safe, first time. Good luck with the alcohol making! Cheers, Nobby
This is a reply to SAMtheAPman cos I can't message him yet.
RE Distiller:
Hi Sam, I've only used it the one time so I'm not exactly an expert. After a lot of research I bought the Megahome Alcohol Distiller MH-DA4B which is a special low wattage version of their water distiller. I marked some millimetre divisions on the side of the glass collector and stopped distilling when I got to 750ml, from the 1 litre I used. I could maybe have gone to 80% recovery or higher but I wanted to be safe, first time. Good luck with the alcohol making! Cheers, Nobby
SAMtheAPman
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Thanks Nobby!
SmokesDaKush
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Hi John, (if I may)
I'll have to pass that one on to the wife...
Thanks for the words and the cheering section. I taught myself some piano and guitar but your right it sits in my closet now. I have no plans of backing down John. I am a very stubborn individual that learned how to divert that into self motivation. Anger for a given situation can be an excellent driver as long as you know when to place it at the wheel, or at least you learn to work with what you have. I'm sorry if anyone thought the worse of my post but I assure you I have nor will I make any rash decisions. I'm at a reasonably good place with all of this most of the time, sure there are days where I can be down or my writings are not conveyed properly but, I am, I've learned you have to be.
I'm prepared to take what I must but, isn't that what stemmed all of this in the first place. I'm maxed out on about 8-10 grains tacking. LOL, thanks John. And quit staring at that tracking info, it's going to drive you mad.
Hey cajun,
So that's what you meant about it takes two weeks, lab work. I have a bill I haven't been able to touch and I guess I just haven't rebuilt my confidence enough to start going again. If that time does come, I may be in contact with you in regards to the assistance programs.
I recall reading up on the Budwig protocol. I actually tried it for sleep some time back, this was before the cottage cheese addition though. Just the flax and lecithin but I also tried it with normal hemp oil too. I know some of the information can create confusion but it is still a help in the long run cajun, so Thank you!
I'll have to pass that one on to the wife...
Thanks for the words and the cheering section. I taught myself some piano and guitar but your right it sits in my closet now. I have no plans of backing down John.
I am a very stubborn individual that learned how to divert that into self motivation. Anger for a given situation can be an excellent driver as long as you know when to place it at the wheel, or at least you learn to work with what you have. I'm sorry if anyone thought the worse of my post but I assure you I have nor will I make any rash decisions. I'm at a reasonably good place with all of this most of the time, sure there are days where I can be down or my writings are not conveyed properly but, I am, I've learned you have to be.I'm prepared to take what I must but, isn't that what stemmed all of this in the first place. I'm maxed out on about 8-10 grains tacking. LOL, thanks John. And quit staring at that tracking info, it's going to drive you mad.
Hey cajun,
So that's what you meant about it takes two weeks, lab work. I have a bill I haven't been able to touch and I guess I just haven't rebuilt my confidence enough to start going again. If that time does come, I may be in contact with you in regards to the assistance programs.
I recall reading up on the Budwig protocol. I actually tried it for sleep some time back, this was before the cottage cheese addition though. Just the flax and lecithin but I also tried it with normal hemp oil too. I know some of the information can create confusion but it is still a help in the long run cajun, so Thank you!
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Hi Smokes,
In my opinion Brother you have came a long ways. I mention quite a bit in these threads, there is much more than just taking the oil. Its retraining the brain, turning around the thought process. Anxiety & stress is the mother of all issues. Mo and I have seen people with severe anxiety to have big cyst pop up, severe rashes, huge warts and all other kink of nasty symptoms. Most who are diagnosed with the C word have severe anxiety, who wouldn't! They just leave the Dr.s office after being told 'you're going to die'. Person comes home and that is the only thing they are thinking about, who wouldn't! Mo and I have witnessed some folks never decide on anything especially 'tacking' as a first protocol. Why? They expect to feel something heavy like 'stoned', lethargy pain med, sleeping med, etc. Unfortunately some of these people have passed away because they ended up back in chemo/radiation. Brother cajun; if he listen to what his Oncologist has told him he would be dead already. Especially after his current bout he was told 'this is the tumor that will kill you'. Imagine the 'mind set' one has?
Mo and I take folks from the start to the finish. Why? When people heal on the oil many things change in the body. If these people don't have answers why these changes are happening they will go to the hospital, stop their regimen and things go south (not saying you shouldn't go to the hospital, but if its something like cancer cells dying at a rapid pace, you can become constipated, severe nausea as well as severe pain from the tumors shrinking). If you don't eat/hydrate correctly to nourish your body severe nausea sets in, vomiting, dehydration, basically just like hypothermia. You know us Smokey, we spend more time getting people in a positive direction, getting their head screwed on straight more than anything else. We see the people we mentor more than Dr.s/Nurses or anyone else. The reason is simple. we want these people to not only heal themselves but to teach others as well as keeping their families healthy. The easiest this becomes is when people are not influenced and stay the course. If I confused you in anyway, apologies. You seemed to really start advancing quickly in getting your head right. Now it seems like your anxiety is back on, that sucks. Also a worthy mention; everyone has guide lines, this is how we compromise our thought process. Currently I have 4 folks with late stage Cancer. Three from the midwest(around GMO crops?) with bile duct liver cancer sent home to hospice & Gist stomach cancer. All with multiple large tumors. One in Cali at best had a day or two to live. Ankles bigger than his calves (hospice folks are blown away how he is healing). All four of these people are on the same regimen as BB2AA, Hendo and John (John uses more, a gram a day I think). These are recent ones and these are in their final weeks. Two are starting the 'sweats' which for Mo and I are an indicator of almost being completed. Some don't sweat but most in our experience do. So we always ask ourselves (Mo and I) why do folks always try to convince us of other methods to use the oil when we have had great success? Hell no we don't know everything (even if we did doesn't mean what people will do or believe). Most of our studies isn't about the oil it is how tumors work, how they are expelled from the body and when they are expelled what effects they have when they do. The pain when they start shrinking back. Same with the brain tumors. Many other things also we have to learn concerning the oil and the human body. If we don't learn these then people get off the oil thinking it is the oil, stop their regimen and cajun, Mo and I know what happens then, their cancer goes forward with a vengeance. The hardest people we mentor is the ones with severe ADDH. On the average it takes us 2-3 months just spent retraining their brain and how to handle severe anxieties. When severe anxieties set in nothing in the world helps until they can get it under control. Sometimes we think the only thing that will help is a 14" cast iron skillet. Mo and I think the brain is so powerful during severe anxieties it can cause you to become more ill just on a negative mindset. Mo and I are not positive to blow smoke up peoples arse, it is the positive attitude, the oil, food/hydration and sleep. Sleep, the most important thing the body needs (not 24/7). Hands down the biggest asset Mo and I have learned is a strict regimen. Like clockwork the better. Sorry Brother, I could ramble for days. You will find in life it seems options are many brother, is one better than the other? Ultimately it is your decision. Regardless of your decision I will state this; if all else fails, try what worked best. And a word about how much to dose? Its up to the person. Its easy for those who are not fighting serious ailments, but we also have the advantage of thinking without those nasty ass anxieties telling our brain what to do. Mo keeps impeccable notes on each person we mentor. Locally if we don't get feedback agreement from the person needing help we don't start them on our regimen. On average we spend over a 100 hours start to finish with the ones we mentor. Wish we got easy cases, its mostly hospice only. LoL, back to chores.
Love, respect to all!
ps; cajun and I never intended to confuse anyone. A mention John made, if you're improving, stay the course. If you're not improving make changes. Just keep in mind your brain can be your worse enemy, anxiety is your achilles heel brother especially when you're ill. If you look online for cancer treatments you will find thousands of them. Fruits from Mexico, Philippines, the list is long. Like cajun has mentioned people have healed with many natural things (referring to Cancer). We all believe in our protocols or we wouldn't be telling people trying to help them. We have just learned so much more the oil can do besides just cancer. The main reason why 'tacking' gum absorption is our mainstay is getting the goodies to the CB1 receptors first controls BP, Sugar levels, regulating your heart, anxiety, stress and depression and with proper strains think in a positive way. So who wouldn't want to heal this way regardless of where they treat/apply oil to other areas? Its like a win win. cajun can testify to this and as he mentioned, we are getting frick'n close to mastering these. Brother Smokes, have the best summer ever!
In my opinion Brother you have came a long ways. I mention quite a bit in these threads, there is much more than just taking the oil. Its retraining the brain, turning around the thought process. Anxiety & stress is the mother of all issues. Mo and I have seen people with severe anxiety to have big cyst pop up, severe rashes, huge warts and all other kink of nasty symptoms. Most who are diagnosed with the C word have severe anxiety, who wouldn't! They just leave the Dr.s office after being told 'you're going to die'. Person comes home and that is the only thing they are thinking about, who wouldn't! Mo and I have witnessed some folks never decide on anything especially 'tacking' as a first protocol. Why? They expect to feel something heavy like 'stoned', lethargy pain med, sleeping med, etc. Unfortunately some of these people have passed away because they ended up back in chemo/radiation. Brother cajun; if he listen to what his Oncologist has told him he would be dead already. Especially after his current bout he was told 'this is the tumor that will kill you'. Imagine the 'mind set' one has?
Mo and I take folks from the start to the finish. Why? When people heal on the oil many things change in the body. If these people don't have answers why these changes are happening they will go to the hospital, stop their regimen and things go south (not saying you shouldn't go to the hospital, but if its something like cancer cells dying at a rapid pace, you can become constipated, severe nausea as well as severe pain from the tumors shrinking). If you don't eat/hydrate correctly to nourish your body severe nausea sets in, vomiting, dehydration, basically just like hypothermia. You know us Smokey, we spend more time getting people in a positive direction, getting their head screwed on straight more than anything else. We see the people we mentor more than Dr.s/Nurses or anyone else. The reason is simple. we want these people to not only heal themselves but to teach others as well as keeping their families healthy. The easiest this becomes is when people are not influenced and stay the course. If I confused you in anyway, apologies. You seemed to really start advancing quickly in getting your head right. Now it seems like your anxiety is back on, that sucks. Also a worthy mention; everyone has guide lines, this is how we compromise our thought process. Currently I have 4 folks with late stage Cancer. Three from the midwest(around GMO crops?) with bile duct liver cancer sent home to hospice & Gist stomach cancer. All with multiple large tumors. One in Cali at best had a day or two to live. Ankles bigger than his calves (hospice folks are blown away how he is healing). All four of these people are on the same regimen as BB2AA, Hendo and John (John uses more, a gram a day I think). These are recent ones and these are in their final weeks. Two are starting the 'sweats' which for Mo and I are an indicator of almost being completed. Some don't sweat but most in our experience do. So we always ask ourselves (Mo and I) why do folks always try to convince us of other methods to use the oil when we have had great success? Hell no we don't know everything (even if we did doesn't mean what people will do or believe). Most of our studies isn't about the oil it is how tumors work, how they are expelled from the body and when they are expelled what effects they have when they do. The pain when they start shrinking back. Same with the brain tumors. Many other things also we have to learn concerning the oil and the human body. If we don't learn these then people get off the oil thinking it is the oil, stop their regimen and cajun, Mo and I know what happens then, their cancer goes forward with a vengeance. The hardest people we mentor is the ones with severe ADDH. On the average it takes us 2-3 months just spent retraining their brain and how to handle severe anxieties. When severe anxieties set in nothing in the world helps until they can get it under control. Sometimes we think the only thing that will help is a 14" cast iron skillet. Mo and I think the brain is so powerful during severe anxieties it can cause you to become more ill just on a negative mindset. Mo and I are not positive to blow smoke up peoples arse, it is the positive attitude, the oil, food/hydration and sleep. Sleep, the most important thing the body needs (not 24/7). Hands down the biggest asset Mo and I have learned is a strict regimen. Like clockwork the better. Sorry Brother, I could ramble for days. You will find in life it seems options are many brother, is one better than the other? Ultimately it is your decision. Regardless of your decision I will state this; if all else fails, try what worked best. And a word about how much to dose? Its up to the person. Its easy for those who are not fighting serious ailments, but we also have the advantage of thinking without those nasty ass anxieties telling our brain what to do. Mo keeps impeccable notes on each person we mentor. Locally if we don't get feedback agreement from the person needing help we don't start them on our regimen. On average we spend over a 100 hours start to finish with the ones we mentor. Wish we got easy cases, its mostly hospice only. LoL, back to chores.
Love, respect to all!
ps; cajun and I never intended to confuse anyone. A mention John made, if you're improving, stay the course. If you're not improving make changes. Just keep in mind your brain can be your worse enemy, anxiety is your achilles heel brother especially when you're ill. If you look online for cancer treatments you will find thousands of them. Fruits from Mexico, Philippines, the list is long. Like cajun has mentioned people have healed with many natural things (referring to Cancer). We all believe in our protocols or we wouldn't be telling people trying to help them. We have just learned so much more the oil can do besides just cancer. The main reason why 'tacking' gum absorption is our mainstay is getting the goodies to the CB1 receptors first controls BP, Sugar levels, regulating your heart, anxiety, stress and depression and with proper strains think in a positive way. So who wouldn't want to heal this way regardless of where they treat/apply oil to other areas? Its like a win win. cajun can testify to this and as he mentioned, we are getting frick'n close to mastering these. Brother Smokes, have the best summer ever!
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Hi Sam & nobby! You guys getting close to rock and roll time? The current updated tracking method will work easily for you. Just know we are here for you guys. Still have a ton of work to do catching up on things but at least see the light at the end of the tunnel. Cheers to you two!
I have a question and I've not been able to find a good answer. I take CO for medicinal purposes - cancer. I have mets to my liver and the primary on the pancreas was surgically removed 1.5 years ago. My question is what is the best delivery system - orally consuming CO, or suppositories? I'm loving the suppository route as I don't walk around stoned all day. Just not sure if I'm getting the full medicinal benefit or not. Anybody know?
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Try this method first; 'tack' first then the suppository. No stoned effect and the tacking regulates your body while the oil goes to work. Page one in this thread. Wait 15-20 minutes before the suppository so the oil has time to saturate the receptors in the CB1 area. What is your suppository protocol? If you put some oil (heated up with a hair dryer, etc) on the outside of your anus and some right inside on your anus mucus membrane then the suppository in my opinion its much more effective. Might seem a little hassle but between tacking/gum absorption upstairs and downstairs plus your suppository I would assume it would be more beneficial. What is the strain of the oil your using?
That being said I haven't found but in a few cases the suppositories needed to be used (throat cancer, feed tubes, etc). This is just my opinion and subjected to scrutiny from other protocols. The gum absorption/tacking has been our first protocol (Mo and I). How many times do you dose via #2? One thing for sure tacking will only help in my opinion. Hope this helps. When you read page one do that except before taking your dose on the gums use a paper towel/like to dry your gums first. Makes the process much easier. I assume you're still using your meds to control what your pancreas did, correct? Tks
Thanks for your response. I realized after I submitted post that I posted to the wrong area. Sorry. To answer your questions. By the way the oil affected me when I was dosing orally, I'd say it's Indica and I should change to Sativa for daytime usage. I dose once in the am and once in the pm rectally. I'm still working my way up to the recommended dosage and by the fact I don't get stoned, I should be able to do this pretty quickly. When I was ingesting it, I didn't and don't believe I could ever reach the 1 gram/day dosage. Yes, I'm currently taking Creon as digestive enzymes, but my remaining pancreas is beginning to compensate for the Whipple procedure and I'm reducing my Creon intake. The cancer I had was a pancreatic neuroendocrine tumor. Think Steve Jobs. There was no evidence of disease at time of surgery, but now I have liver mets. I will try the tacking and hopefully that will work, but I want to ask, since the oil is being absorbed directly into the bloodstream and by-passing the liver initially, how does that affect the medicinal benefits of the oil on the liver lesions? Because these are liver mets and the liver is usually the first pass thru for things ingested, it may seem that I should be doing this differently in order to get the most benefit.?? I've tried to research the bioavailability of ingesting vs suppositories and there's so much conflicting information that my head begins to swim. Thanks.
SmokesDaKush
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I understand the retraining and have done so, still doing so, accept the fact that I will need to throughout life, really I get that! I eat, I hydrate (probably a little too much), I exercise when able, I stay physical when able, none of that is an issue and I have never stated such! Even when I couldn't use my arm I was still active around the house. I looked pathetic but I did what i could. No apologies are needed, I just simply was trying to figure out if I need to do something more because all I can tack in a single day is approximately 8-10 grains worth of oil, I simply can't absorb any more unless I get sloppy. Trying to research the avenues and get some answers so I don't throw away everything I have been working on, again clearly stated! I also don't want to end up like before or change my current dose in fear of a sudden lack of or potency change, you all have mentioned what happens then. It's not that I want to take more, if anything I would prefer to take less so that I am not limited to what I can do. I really think your taking my writings the wrong way, looking back, sure maybe I should have left the summer comment out but I thought I said it in a rather nice way. Sure I probably have a little anxiety, doesn't everybody, I thought I was pretty clear that some emotions where being toyed with, a little desperation more then anything. Perhaps I needed to add the appropriate set of smiley's to help convey. Maybe it's the oil making me not care but in all honesty I feel a little stupid for posting anything now! I feel my last few posts practically had disclaimers in them, none the less. I think I need to back down from this a bit before I do get anxiety, nothing will fuel me faster then someone telling me how I am being when I've clearly stated it and I'm living through it, just being real.
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Hi bjax,
There is a lot of conflicting information to be sure. Think you found a great site to get unconfused. If you wouldn't mind I'll C&P this and move it to the main dosing thread to keep things better organized; Cannabis Oil Dosing Tutorial: Tacking Method Also we are finding out that that gum absorption/tacking protocol and bioavailability of ingesting/suppositories. I don't think many subscribe to this thread. Just briefly; as mentioned, getting the oil to your CB1 receptors first keeps the body regulated so there is no high regardless of what protocol you use. Not only no high but your body is regulated in many ways. cajuncelt is using this combined dosing regimen as we speak. His expertise on bioavailability digesting and suppositories and my wife and I studies on gum absorption/tacking protocols are coming together rapidly and we are both excited how our combined knowledge is all coming together to end a lot of confusion. Yes, it is already out there but the pieces of the puzzle has been vague to say the least. We have learned this mostly on our own as we continue to gain knowledge, share this information to end the confusion so people can heal themselves with confidence instead of confusion. I cannot speak for cajuncelt but the pieces of the puzzle to help others in my opinion are there. We have much more to learn exactly how what does what. For me personally the wife and I are learning the 'power' of the brain when its activated with cannabinoids in the CB1 receptors first. Ailments get fixed before the brain gets woken up as your brain gets its CPU repaired. So much knowledge comes pouring in it's flat out amazing. Enough on this right now. canjuncelt should pipe in when he see's this thread as mentioned he is using combined protocol exactly what your going through.
Cheers
Motoco