BrixNewb's First Grow & Beyond

Ok, so full submerge for all waterings? Do you submerge 3/4 of the way up or do you dunk it over the top of the container? Just trying to get the details here GT. Appreciate the advice, I am all ears.

The watering technique is detailed in the first few pages of "In the lab" which is the journal where the kit instructions are....which is linked to in my signature below.

For a first-timer, I recommend picking up the pot every day to gauge weight, then letting it dry out till you see some slight wilting. Take note of the weight.

Ideally, you want to water 5 minutes before you see wilting. Practically, water them the same day they would normally wilt.

I submerge mine till the rim of the pot is just above water level and then I pour maybe 8oz of water down the top while they're submerged. When all the bubbles stop, you've fully saturated the container. Tilt it this way and that, letting as much water drain out as possible and you've just completed a proper watering cycle!

Again, it's all there in "In the lab."
 
The watering technique is detailed in the first few pages of "In the lab" which is the journal where the kit instructions are....which is linked to in my signature below.

For a first-timer, I recommend picking up the pot every day to gauge weight, then letting it dry out till you see some slight wilting. Take note of the weight.

Ideally, you want to water 5 minutes before you see wilting. Practically, water them the same day they would normally wilt.

I submerge mine till the rim of the pot is just above water level and then I pour maybe 8oz of water down the top while they're submerged. When all the bubbles stop, you've fully saturated the container. Tilt it this way and that, letting as much water drain out as possible and you've just completed a proper watering cycle!

Again, it's all there in "In the lab."

I have actually read the instructions multiple times, most recently last night. You have mentioned you like to bottom water, I gave that a try in veg and it seemed to give me root growth mainly at the bottom of the pots, so I am trying different things to see what works best for me. Watering is the big area I seem to need work on, so I am doing my best.
 
Heheh, it's actually a self-learned hands-on thing. :laugh: You'll get what I mean the first time you try it - the whole rootball tries to float right out of the pot.

It's most important in the early veg pots, the roughly one gallon ones. I have a couple of 2-3 gallon pails and they're a great size for dunking my 1.5 gallon tall pots. I mix up my feed water in a pail, set the dry pot in the pail and pour a cupful into the top while holding it down (it will try to float :cheesygrinsmiley:). Half of that first water will run through/past the soil and out the bottom and back into the rest of the feed. I'll give it a minute to soak in from top and bottom and run another cupful over the top. By now, it will sit in the pail without trying to float, so I'll leave it to soak for a few minutes. One more cupful over the top usually is enough to be sure it's well-soaked, then pull it out and tip it from side to side until the dripping stops. After a few of these, you learn how heavy a well-soaked pot should be. At the end of this process the pots should be completely saturated.

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[Edit] I only submerge mine in about 6 inches of water/feed, but I pour it over the top also, so the soil gets soaked from both directions. It also sounds like you've already been doing the bottom-soak thing. Just be sure the entire ball is saturated.
 
Did you score that root ball well when you transplanted? It will help her "adapt" and take advantage of the new soil more quickly.

When I drench in 1 gal pots, I place them in a 1/2 gal yoghurt tub we have left over. It come to within an inch of the top of the pot. I water from the top slowly. Once the top watering flows through the soil and fills the tub, I let her sit there for several minutes. If the water level in the outside tub drops, I know the soil is still wicking up moisture. I add more water until the level no longer drops. That way I know the plant's soil is completely soaked through. Then the tipping/draining.
 
I have a good buzz on and feel a tad verbose, so for those that don't have a good visual image of what can go wrong with watering (and we all know how tricky it can seem), lemme draw a little picture. :cheesygrinsmiley:

Suppose a guy decides that bottom watering is a good idea and he gets himself some nice deep trays and sets his pots in 'em. When his plants get dry he pours water into the pots, the water runs out the bottom and fills the tray, the plant soaks that water up - cool beans - brush off yer hands - deed is done, right?

Um ... mebbe not. In fact, probably not. What probably happened is that the water ran down the sides and out the bottom, the top and sides got water and turned dark and swelled, and the bottom got well soaked. But the center is still dry. :straightface: Oops.

If that happened, the roots will be packed on the outside of the ball, and they'll have a hydro look to them - thick and long.

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Heheh, it's actually a self-learned hands-on thing. :laugh: You'll get what I mean the first time you try it - the whole rootball tries to float right out of the pot.

It's most important in the early veg pots, the roughly one gallon ones. I have a couple of 2-3 gallon pails and they're a great size for dunking my 1.5 gallon tall pots. I mix up my feed water in a pail, set the dry pot in the pail and pour a cupful into the top while holding it down (it will try to float :cheesygrinsmiley:). Half of that first water will run through/past the soil and out the bottom and back into the rest of the feed. I'll give it a minute to soak in from top and bottom and run another cupful over the top. By now, it will sit in the pail without trying to float, so I'll leave it to soak for a few minutes. One more cupful over the top usually is enough to be sure it's well-soaked, then pull it out and tip it from side to side until the dripping stops. After a few of these, you learn how heavy a well-soaked pot should be. At the end of this process the pots should be completely saturated.

:thumb:


[Edit] I only submerge mine in about 6 inches of water/feed, but I pour it over the top also, so the soil gets soaked from both directions. It also sounds like you've already been doing the bottom-soak thing. Just be sure the entire ball is saturated.

Yeah, that's quite close to what I am doing as well. Soak up from the bottom with some down the top a couple times. Still taking a few things from your method, definitely going to hit them with more water and go down the top at least 3 times.

Did you score that root ball well when you transplanted? It will help her "adapt" and take advantage of the new soil more quickly.

When I drench in 1 gal pots, I place them in a 1/2 gal yoghurt tub we have left over. It come to within an inch of the top of the pot. I water from the top slowly. Once the top watering flows through the soil and fills the tub, I let her sit there for several minutes. If the water level in the outside tub drops, I know the soil is still wicking up moisture. I add more water until the level no longer drops. That way I know the plant's soil is completely soaked through. Then the tipping/draining.

Definitely scored the root ball at the 90 degree points and sprinkled them good with Roots! I use 2 or 3 quart (I think) pails that I bought at a big box home store that fit my 1 gallon pots nicely. They come to about an inch or two from the top of the pot and are maybe an inch or two bigger in diameter. I may give your method of starting from the top a whirl.

I have a good buzz on and feel a tad verbose, so for those that don't have a good visual image of what can go wrong with watering (and we all know how tricky it can seem), lemme draw a little picture. :cheesygrinsmiley:

Suppose a guy decides that bottom watering is a good idea and he gets himself some nice deep trays and sets his pots in 'em. When his plants get dry he pours water into the pots, the water runs out the bottom and fills the tray, the plant soaks that water up - cool beans - brush off yer hands - deed is done, right?

Um ... mebbe not. In fact, probably not. What probably happened is that the water ran down the sides and out the bottom, the top and sides got water and turned dark and swelled, and the bottom got well soaked. But the center is still dry. :straightface: Oops.

If that happened, the roots will be packed on the outside of the ball, and they'll have a hydro look to them - thick and long.

:blunt:

Hmmm, that picture may be what I have experienced. I am going to make sure I take that extra time and get them nice and soaked from now on.

I really appreciate all the pointers you guys are throwing my way. Watering is the big hurdle for me at this point, but I think if I let them dry out and then let them get soaked, I may just grow a damn plant.
 
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I was remembering the old days in the barn ...

We grew 'em in 5 gallon buckets, and when it was time to water we'd fill a big 32 gallon trash can with well water and MG - the blue powder - and drop a submersible pump in there with a garden hose. The floor was concrete so we'd just squeeze the hose shut and go from bucket to bucket, filling each one to the top and on to the next. :laugh: Like watering a garden - so simple - loved it!

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brix, youre doing great..
some of us overthink the kit...its very forgiving. Believe me..:)

:tokin:

I was remembering the old days in the barn ...

We grew 'em in 5 gallon buckets, and when it was time to water we'd fill a big 32 gallon trash can with well water and MG - the blue powder - and drop a submersible pump in there with a garden hose. The floor was concrete so we'd just squeeze the hose shut and go from bucket to bucket, filling each one to the top and on to the next. :laugh: Like watering a garden - so simple - loved it!

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Even though it was only a few months ago I look back on my first grow the same way, "I had no idea what the hell I was going and still got 8 ounces of killer bud!" Testament to the kit. I am just always looking to improve. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right. I have never been disappointed in the least by the results I have seen. I thank all you guys who went before new guys like me and did it. High Brix Crew is the place for me, that's for sure. Couldn't imagine growing any other way.
 
I do things much like Graytail in veg. I think the key s to let them soak at least 5 minutes. The medium gets a good chance to swell fully and really absorb all the water it can. A shorter soak may seem to get the maximum but I think the medium may not be fully wet.


I agree with all of ya.....I'm still a new guy to and the most important part of watering for me was to give myself time to water.......I use a method much like GTs.....I pour a little in a saucer, and let them soak for a couple of minutes so the bottom has saturated then pour water slowly down the top starting at the base of the plant going around till I make it to the outside of the pot.......either way ya do it just give yourself time......it takes time to saturate anything really......lol.......:passitleft:
 
I agree with all of ya.....I'm still a new guy to and the most important part of watering for me was to give myself time to water.......I use a method much like GTs.....I pour a little in a saucer, and let them soak for a couple of minutes so the bottom has saturated then pour water slowly down the top starting at the base of the plant going around till I make it to the outside of the pot.......either way ya do it just give yourself time......it takes time to saturate anything really......lol.......:passitleft:

Yeah, I just planted a Dusted Bud seed for my other journal and I took the time to get the pot SATURATED and was surprised how heavy it was. I don't think I was saturating them before.
 
Yeah, I just planted a Dusted Bud seed for my other journal and I took the time to get the pot SATURATED and was surprised how heavy it was. I don't think I was saturating them before.

:idea: That's a damned good idea for anyone - heck, you could just saturate a blank potful of soil to find out how heavy it should be.
 
Sorry forgot the pic.........
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:idea: That's a damned good idea for anyone - heck, you could just saturate a blank potful of soil to find out how heavy it should be.

That was exactly the plan until I decided to go ahead and check to see if I messed up one of the seeds I planted. I did, so perfect time to plant!

I saturated this 1 gallon prolly two weeks ago and put a rooted clone in it.......still has quite a it of moisture in it and she looks happy.....

Yeah, my Chocolope Kush hasn't been watered in at least a week letting it dry out. Still going strong, waiting for it to wilt.
 
I agree with all of ya.....I'm still a new guy to and the most important part of watering for me was to give myself time to water.......I use a method much like GTs.....I pour a little in a saucer, and let them soak for a couple of minutes so the bottom has saturated then pour water slowly down the top starting at the base of the plant going around till I make it to the outside of the pot.......either way ya do it just give yourself time......it takes time to saturate anything really......lol.......:passitleft:

To me, this is a key ingredient...time. Many times, with the time requirements of my job in the salt mines, I have to practically dump & go, but whenever I have more than 10 minutes and it's time to water I take my time and slowly dribble the drench liquid over the top. After the first pint or so (in a 7 gal), I'll put a pint into the saucer and let that get good and wet, then alternate back to the top and put another pint slowly down it then another back to the saucer. I'll mostly alternate back and forth until it's taken its fill. Once in the bigger pots, I don't really "water-til-runoff". In fact, I rarely have any runoff and will go back in after 20-30 mins and evaluate if I want to put more plain water in the saucer.

Doing it slowly overcomes much of the runoff from a dry pot. :cool:
 
Ok guys, I was able to get my hands on a decent camera, so I got some snaps for y'all.

Grapefruit Diesel is about a week out from Cat Drench from what the guys in the Cat Drench thread say. Starting to frost up. Day 19 of 12/12.

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Pineapple Chunk is shooting out the pistils, trichomes shouldn't be far behind. Day 13 of 12/12.

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Budzilla was rootbound, drooping really hard and really hasn't rebounded much since transplant. I chopped off some of the fans to expose the lower nodes. Day 28.

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Chocolope Kush is moving right along. Day 21.

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The autos are doing alright. No rapid growth like some people, but they are healthy and growing, and that's good enough for me. Day 16.

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Wipeout Express Auto

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