Brightlight's Strain Fest: Organics & LED

[brightlight]

re: Brightlight's Strain Fest - Organics & LED

What a couple of gorgeous plants!

I've never seen anything like it, hell of a pheno

High brother. the mk looks something out of a sci-fi flick, totaly awesome. Very professional my good sir.
Happy daze.

Wow, they're both beautiful. Superb plants BL.

Way F'ing cool. I've seen afew marlies collies turn white before. But not that white. And that is a hella auto. Got to be the best I've seen yet just about anywhere............. Way cool. Keepem Green

Whew, looks like that LED passed the flowering test. Pretty! What lighting schedule did you use?

Thank you guys! The little purple/albino MKU stole the spotlight from her 2 sisters. Great description DK! Bud pics from all 3 MK's coming up.

Before this auto grow, I'd only grown 2 outdoors, & both were afterthoughts. I'd heard that autos weren't as potent as photos so paid little attention to them. Last yr's outdoor Cheese opened my eyes re auto potency. But too much of a rookie to say that they are as strong as photos. Very amazed at pumping out good herb in 9-10 wks. Gonna do it again next yr. Already collecting seeds. drcannabi gave me some good natured gas when I was replenishing my ongoing strains & opted for the one that gave me a promo auto seed.

NCW...looking forward to seeing more of your autos too. They have these XL & XXL strains now that might be great outside up your way.

All Smiles....grown all the way under 18-6 brother.

DinaFem OG Kush Auto
OG crossed w/ Haze auto. Thought the Haze addition was odd but plant turned out very OG. Tall at 30", next to nothing to trim. Decent smell, taste, strength. No complaints but not crippling. I liked this one best.

Seeds....I "had" to buy some Loud singles because the full packs had sold out. Got a few of their AJ's Sour Diesel & Headband. Wanted to try his version of AJ's cut but mostly the Headband, which is supposed to be selfed ECSD & not the more common Sour Diesel x OG type Headband. I hadn't done much Sour Diesel reading lately & found this. Think good reading for fellow strain freaks.

"Originally Posted by JJ-NYC
Let me give everyone a history lession about the Diesel. The Chem Dawg
was a unknown indica strain(Kush,HP,or NL?) old school, from
Colorodo. (Does anyone know what strain or its orgin?)This is the
orginal NYC DIESEL. Two friends met on Dead tour. A pound of Chem
was mailed to Mass. around 93-94.Seeds were found and started.My
friend met Mass.G. at Phish tour 93-94.Clones of the Chem Dawg and
Super Skunk made their way to NYC. With no male,The Weasel crossed a
Sensi NL male with the Super Skunk. Took a male and crossed it with
the Chem Dawg creating the Underdawg Diesel or (Diesel no.1,Headband
Diesel,or Daywrecker Diesel).Another strain in his room the DNL
(NL/Shiva(RFK)/Hawiian cross) self seeded the Under Dawg a seed was
grown and The Sour Diesel was created, no planned breeding, it just
happened. This is the Diesel gospel. Everything else is BS including
soma (who the fuck is soma?) I challenge anyone who questions this
fact, for I have been involved with the Diesel since it came to NYC.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaDocta
soma got his diesel from a bagseed from a buddy from NYC or at least
thats how soma described it. his diesel could be an s1 of original
diesel, underdawg, sour d, or any other b/c it sounds like all of
them in nyc gets mixed up pretty easily (due to similar heritage)
unless youre really in the loop and have access to all of them and
know heritage. that leaves a range of options for soma's expression
of his bagseed diesel momma. and yes, his nyc diesel is not pure
diesel, his first hybrid that won the awards was that diesel bag
momma cross shanti's afghani/hawaiian male. i believe the current
seeds sold by soma are a first backcross to his diesel mom.
So.....

Original Diesel = (SensiNL X MassSuperSkunk) X Dawg/Chem
Sour Diesel = [(SensiNL X MassSuperSkunk) X Dawg/Chem] X DNL
Soma's NYCD = Diesel Bagseed (probably orig, not sour) X (Afghani X Hawaiian)
DNL = RFK X Hawaiian
RFK = NL X Shiva

The sativa comes from skunk. Two different types Mass. Super Skunk,
which was in the Under Dawg Diesel and RFK skunk which was bred into
the DNL. The newest confirmed breeding. The DNL was a RFK skunk
female/Hawiain male x NL male. The breeding on this strain has been
very unclear over the years . First thought to be a Diesel x NL cross
(thats how it got its name DNL) this plant grows tall and streches
very similar growth to the Sour.

RFK was a skunk strain developed from seeds found in a bag scored at
the 90-91? Dead shows at RFK there were 3 different versions of RFK
Skunk 1,2,3. The strain was given to a friend with some Hawaian
seeds(still investagating source) and he crossed the two. Had a
female and added some NL pollen(investagating source) creating the
DNL, which hermi and seeded the Under Dawg Diesel. I know its
confusing. But I think it should be like this...

Original Diesel = Dawg/Chem X (MassSuperSkunk X SensiNL)
Sour Diesel = Original Diesel X DNL
DNL = (RFK Skunk X Hawaiian) X NL
RFK = Skunk strain from RFK dead Shows 90-91

Some of the breeding was planned and some not. The Sour was not
planned. The RFK's and stuff was around before the Diesel. Once
they got a hold of the Chem they started breeding what they had into
it. The DNL was the orginal cash crop before the Diesel and Sour. But
was phased out after being taken over by the Diesel. Only the orginal
breeder and a few have the strain now. Many different crosses were
made seeds still exsist but are over 10 years old. Once they created
the Diesel they were contempt and stopped breeding.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chemdog
This is for rezdog the sour diesel is in fact a total mistake the
chemdog which was started in co from a very old farmer got seeds to a
person in ma not cali which was started then in 91. It was the best
bud i have ever smoked smelled or tasted. By 1993 it was the sickest
shit around. Then the kids met these guys from ny at a phish show and
they were begging the kids for a cutting which at that point was
scarce.The kids were very tight and knew they had something special.
We then became good friends and the kids traded the chem dog for a
super skunk which is better then any skunk i have seen.We made
promises to not give the shit away it was the bomb. Now this is were
we get a little pissed off but are over it by now the nyc guys didnt
like the name chem dog so they had a idea to chang the name to DIESEL.
So the orig Chem dog is Diesel so what happend next explains the
Sour The kids in ma had the best shit around everybody wanted the
Chem dog people were coming up from albany to get the Diesel in bud
form and they found some seeds in one batch. The super skunk that the
kids were growing hermd and hit the chem dog aka diesel and the albany
crew started those seeds and named it sour diesel also the orig
chemdog aka diesl is og kush. its Chem dog also the ma kids are the
only ones who have orig seeds of chem dog aka diesel still from the
early 90s everybody got cuttings the kids still have 6 seeds left.
hope you all find this info helpful i will soon give full details
about the chem dog,sour diesel,diesel,og kush.Its time to settle all
the bullshit that people seem to know peace to all

Guys your all right except the the og kush is a hermi seed from the
chem dog from back in 96 their were only two people in the day to
take the chem dog to the west coast it first hit lake tahoe. My
friends chem dog got stressed and hermi a little so he decide to try
the few seeds and the buddy who gave the chem dog seeds to us said
the old farmer said it hade kush in it so my buddy to this day thinks
its a strain of the orig kush and said if the ny kids can change the
name from chem dog lets call the west coast version OG kUSH that is
the truth. If anybody ever smoked the chem dog back in the day early
90s it taste like the sour but fifty times more The chem dog is the
mom of the sour so basicly the og kush is a newer seed of the orig
chem dog. peace to all. wmposse if any of you have questions let me
know also i wanna talk to this rez dog guy because he claims no one
has seeds of these strains well iam the only one with true males and
females of the Chem dog,Sour diesel,Bubble chem, i have crossed a
male Chem dog Aka Diesel with all of Sensi seeds good females already
back in 96 they have been in storage since then and i know are still
viable because the me kids just started the Super dog which is the
Superskunk crossed with the chemdog and its sick enjoy the info a lot
more to come

Part of what you say is true. But you have some of the facts mixed
up. First of all, I go way back to the begining 92-93. my good friend
from NY, was the one who got the Chem Dawg and Super Skunk first.
And yes the Chem was first called Diesel because people did not like
the name and because it was the "Cock Diesel" But you don't talk
about the next strain created from the Chem Dawg. Also known as
UnderDawg, Daywrecker, Diesel no.1 (Chem Dawg x super skunk/NL) from
this the Sour was born hermied from the DNL(skunk). That is were it
gets its vigorous growth and some of the taste. Any one who has grown
or smoked it would know. And yes the Albany kids were the first to
"find " the Sour, the "bro" and his crew did not invent it. It was
grown out of seeds found in head bags bought in NYC. The upstate kids
were begging for a cutting of either Diesel and wound up with bag
seed to grow. Thats fact."

 

[CareStaker]

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I had to come back and check it out again. It's insane how colorful (and not) that plant is. Such deep color and contrast, really striking. I love mutants, runts and weirdos.


EDIT: Just seeing your strain talk. These strains were all local strains for me. They formed the bulk of what was available around here, since we barely ever got the good Cali stuff. The only thing is that we never really got the buds from the original clone cuts, like the 91 or the 4. I've read so much of the story, several hundred pages, and some of that interview matches my experience, and some does not. It's always interesting lore though. Add Rez into the mix, and it gets even better. I know it doesn't matter, but I'd really love to know the whole story.... I can't help it, I love the pollen prone genetics so much. -written with help from Chem4cookies.

 

[brightlight]

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The truth behind ChemDog & Sour Diesel is only what one decides to believe from piecing together the bits of available info. Some concurrence, some disagreement. I forgot to mention that I posted this lengthy set of posts because many of the posts are by personalities that are high up on the CD & SD family trees. And hah!....now I know what DNL might stand for. My apologies to those whose eyes might have glazed over seeing more "blah, blah, blah...." on historical genetics.

 

[Hozona]

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Chemdog makes me cough my ass off!
More so when I was smoking, vaping not so much
My HYBID has some in it...thanks to BID!

 

[drcannabi]

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Awesome update brightlight! What a great surprise with the Autos. Was that DF-WW an auto too? That plant looks down right pissed, like it would knock you upside the head if you looked at it wrong lol!

That little albino in neater than sh!t. Never seen that before except for light bleaching.

Digging the DF OG Kush or diesel, or chemdawg, or headband, or whatever the hell it is lol! I get headspun every time I read the "History" of chemdog. It makes me blurry eyed. Whatever the truth is, I just love the chemmy flavors and smells. This is my favorite type of weed and I'll never be without some type of chem goodness.

Stellar job my friend!

 

[Dusty Kiefers]

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The truth behind ChemDog & Sour Diesel is only what one decides to believe from piecing together the bits of available info. Some concurrence, some disagreement. I forgot to mention that I posted this lengthy set of posts because many of the posts are by personalities that are high up on the CD & SD family trees. And hah!....now I know what DNL might stand for. My apologies to those whose eyes might have glazed over seeing more "blah, blah, blah...." on historical genetics.

I love the story's. I had the weed first, no I had it first. It come from here, no it didn't it come from here.
Has anybody give the great lord some credit yet, for gifting these great growers with these pheonos?

More please.

 

[brightlight]

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Chemdog makes me cough my ass off!
More so when I was smoking, vaping not so much
My HYBID has some in it...thanks to BID!

Sorry to hear that Hoz but don't give up on it. In my experience Chems are flavorful, smooth, & no lung expansion type cough. The high is worth it so try it again when you can.

Awesome update brightlight! What a great surprise with the Autos. Was that DF-WW an auto too? That plant looks down right pissed, like it would knock you upside the head if you looked at it wrong lol!

That little albino in neater than sh!t. Never seen that before except for light bleaching.

Digging the DF OG Kush or diesel, or chemdawg, or headband, or whatever the hell it is lol! I get headspun every time I read the "History" of chemdog. It makes me blurry eyed. Whatever the truth is, I just love the chemmy flavors and smells. This is my favorite type of weed and I'll never be without some type of chem goodness.

Stellar job my friend!

Yes doc...the Widow was an auto. As nice an indoor plant as I've grown. Every branch grew a sizable flower. Now I better understand the autoflower explosion & popularity. A great diversion & way to add variety to growing, but I'm old & entrenched w/ my photo strains.

Dinafem White Widow Auto

I love the story's. I had the weed first, no I had it first. It come from here, no it didn't it come from here.
Has anybody give the great lord some credit yet, for gifting these great growers with these pheonos?

More please.

Amen brother.....so happy the Chem fam strains exist! When I look at all the strains I'm lucky to grow....the Chem family is at the true heart of what I love to grow & use so agree w/ you wholeheartedly!

Ok, here is another account of the same OGK story BUT w/ more details....especially on the West Coast Dog. WCD doesn't seem to be around anymore unless you have elite connections, but is behind several world class strains including orig. Bubba (but even Bubba stories vary enough to add confusion). Also saw where Deep Chunk is said to be the unknown indica boy in the WCD though unsubstantiated.

"In late '93 John from Grass Valley Ca. got the Chem Dog cut. He shared it with me, Jerry(cowboy) from Dibble Creek Ca. and Harold(Putz) from Sunset Beach Ca. Putz had a male he called the secret ingredient. It was a cross of Lemon Thai and an Old World Paki Kush. Putz bred the secret ingredient to the Chem Dog. The buds that came out of this cross were going around So. L.A. county in '95. Someone told Putz that Kush must be so good because it was mountain grown. Putz laughed and told him "this Kush is Ocean Grown Kush bro". The tag stuck and it became known as OG Kush. In the spring of '96 Putz married a girl from New Zealand. Before moving there he sent cuts of his OG to me and Bob(beans) in Salinas Ca. He gave all his P1 stock and all the remaining seed he had to Mike(mad dog) from Downey Ca. In late '96 Mike sold some seed to some guys in the Valley. That's where the San Fernando Valley cut of OG comes from. It's like the Original only more sat in pheno type. Mike sold a cut of the original to a guy in Orange county and that cut is called Larry today. It's still around Orange county. Mike sent one other cut of the original OG to a breeder in Europe. As far as I know he never let anyone else have it.
Jerry bred his Chem Dog cut to a Humboldt county indica boy. This was the beginning of his cubing proccess. At BX3 he got a pheno that had all the smell, taste and kick of the Chem Dog, but in a pure indica pheno. Jerry gave this plant to Bob. It became known as the West Coast Dog.
Bob bred this plant to my Old World Kush male. He took a male from that cross and bred it to the OG cut Putz had sent him. This is what made the original Bubba Kush."

Here is rare web photo of 2006 Chem 1, the most sativa pheno of the 2006's & maybe even the original group. Rare photo of rare pheno.

 

[CareStaker]

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I've grown enough seed to come to know the value of prized cultivars. There's no higher prize than any of original Chems imo. I've love to have realdeal ECSD, but for breeding and the sheer awesomeness of it - I'd have to take an original Chem over my favorite strain.

 

[Dusty Kiefers]

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I think ill take a rip off the widow first then go for the o.g.
I have an o.g from dinafem, those nugs got me wanting to pop it.
I see on thier website they finaly changed the description from original ganster to ocean green.
Wish I could get my hands on some chem cuttings.
more story's old timer, this young un can't get enough.
happy daze brother.

 

[Conradino23]

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Hmmm OG Kush and ChemDawg are not related according to DNA sequencing done by Phylos, but for many years legends were the only thing we had, so it's understandable that nobody knew for sure.

OG Kush is tied closely to Florida import from mid 90's known as Crippy and Chemdawg '91 to East Coast genetics of an unknown origin, Sour Diesel is from the same family as well as NYCD which really can be an S1 seed later bxed by Soma.

As they continue the sample analysis we'll be able to know pretty well in the future how all these were bred out, which is a good thing that comes from abolishing the War on Drugs.

 

[brightlight]

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I've grown enough seed to come to know the value of prized cultivars. There's no higher prize than any of original Chems imo. I've love to have realdeal ECSD, but for breeding and the sheer awesomeness of it - I'd have to take an original Chem over my favorite strain.

Since becoming acquainted w/ your genius growing talents CS, I've also learned that you are a fellow Chem brother. Could not agree w/ you more! Chems & OG's have long since become my primary interest. Sensi Star & Thai's too but to lesser degree. So many other strains of interest & fun to explore & grow yet I always redirect back to the favored Chems & OG's. My own search for "true/real" ECSD has currently led me to Loud's Headband. Have the seeds! In my next to grow short list, but the list is longer than my usual plant counts....but definitely in next grow or two. Excited anticipation, but we'll see how it goes.

I think ill take a rip off the widow first then go for the o.g.
I have an o.g from dinafem, those nugs got me wanting to pop it.
I see on thier website they finaly changed the description from original ganster to ocean green.
Wish I could get my hands on some chem cuttings.
more story's old timer, this young un can't get enough.
happy daze brother.

Bro. DK....my fairly long held Dinafem DinaChem is finally going to get her chance in my next grow. Also said to be true SK VA spruced up & revigorated w/ the GuavaChem from the Top Dawg crew. The Top Dawg Chem line is respected & undisputed to be authentic Chems. Its many straight Chem mixes, e.g., TresDawg & Stardawg, are legit & renown. Excited to see your work with it!

Hmmm OG Kush and ChemDawg are not related according to DNA sequencing done by Phylos, but for many years legends were the only thing we had, so it's understandable that nobody knew for sure.

OG Kush is tied closely to Florida import from mid 90's known as Crippy and Chemdawg '91 to East Coast genetics of an unknown origin, Sour Diesel is from the same family as well as NYCD which really can be an S1 seed later bxed by Soma.

As they continue the sample analysis we'll be able to know pretty well in the future how all these were bred out, which is a good thing that comes from abolishing the War on Drugs.

Interesting bro. con but I disagree that Chem isn't in OG. Part of problem is that "OG" has become a generic strain name/label. Tacked on to everything now. The Phylos test result essentially negates most of the "good" info that's available....much of it by high level principals such as ChemDog himself, Joe Brand, Nspecta, JJ-NYC, Loompa, etc. True OG's have too much sativa in them to be part of the Florida Kush family.

Bubba Kush is a great example of strain name becoming generic. Often listed as Bubblegum x OG, this form of BK has been developed & is good cross but definitely NOT what BK really is. The Bubba side of BK is said by Bubba himself to be Northern Lights he picked up in New Orleans before coming to CA w/ homey/buddy breeder Fugee who was a FL Kush disciple/aficionado. The orig. Bubba was crossed to West Coast Dawg to become the true Bubba Kush. I like Bubblegum but imo it pales in stature to real BK.

"Crippy" was generic name for good Hindu Kush developed in FL in 90's. Crippy became more of a specific line when intro'd into SoCal scene & popularized through music & celebs...e.g., Snoop & Cypress Hill. Crippy is surely indica based. Smells entirely different than fuel, pinesol Chems. Sweet, incense, hash & far less vibrant than Chems in effect. Can be sleeping potion type strain. My recent Emdog is Crippy x Chem D, & the Crippy side is most pronounced. Very sweet & floral smell nothing like Chems. The Pure Kush or the Suge Knight Cut are good examples of SoCal Crippy family. No personal experience with those but have moderate experience w/ SoCal Master Kush, LA Affie, & other SoCal strains that center on Crippy family/roots. I believe Triangle & Kosher are more connected to this line than OG line.

Lastly, Soma's NYC Diesel, while a fine, fine strain is an offshoot from the Chem/Diesel families. The celebrated early version was supposedly Diesel or ECSD bagseed x w/ Shantibaba's Afghan/Hawaiian. Last I saw on his site, Soma's current NYCD is Mex/Afghan cross.

Too bad we couldn't sit around & toke while getting into some fun strain talk....that would be a real fun time! Strains are a huge part of my love for our plant so always happy to have EVERYONE join in on these discussions. Thanks to all!

 

[CareStaker]

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Be nice if we could do just that ... I got some ECSDH finishing sooner than expected

Loud was on my list too! I just got sidetracked into the SSSDH which I don't think I'll regret. I thought I might as well make some seeds with the original release while they still pop.

 

[Conradino23]

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Interesting bro. con but I disagree that Chem isn't in OG. Part of problem is that "OG" has become a generic strain name/label. Tacked on to everything now. The Phylos test result essentially negates most of the "good" info that's available....much of it by high level principals such as ChemDog himself, Joe Brand, Nspecta, JJ-NYC, Loompa, etc. True OG's have too much sativa in them to be part of the Florida Kush family.

Bubba Kush is a great example of strain name becoming generic. Often listed as Bubblegum x OG, this form of BK has been developed & is good cross but definitely NOT what BK really is. The Bubba side of BK is said by Bubba himself to be Northern Lights he picked up in New Orleans before coming to CA w/ homey/buddy breeder Fugee who was a FL Kush disciple/aficionado. The orig. Bubba was crossed to West Coast Dawg to become the true Bubba Kush. I like Bubblegum but imo it pales in stature to real BK.

"Crippy" was generic name for good Hindu Kush developed in FL in 90's. Crippy became more of a specific line when intro'd into SoCal scene & popularized through music & celebs...e.g., Snoop & Cypress Hill. Crippy is surely indica based. Smells entirely different than fuel, pinesol Chems. Sweet, incense, hash & far less vibrant than Chems in effect. Can be sleeping potion type strain. My recent Emdog is Crippy x Chem D, & the Crippy side is most pronounced. Very sweet & floral smell nothing like Chems. The Pure Kush or the Suge Knight Cut are good examples of SoCal Crippy family. No personal experience with those but have moderate experience w/ SoCal Master Kush, LA Affie, & other SoCal strains that center on Crippy family/roots. I believe Triangle & Kosher are more connected to this line than OG line.

Lastly, Soma's NYC Diesel, while a fine, fine strain is an offshoot from the Chem/Diesel families. The celebrated early version was supposedly Diesel or ECSD bagseed x w/ Shantibaba's Afghan/Hawaiian. Last I saw on his site, Soma's current NYCD is Mex/Afghan cross.

Too bad we couldn't sit around & toke while getting into some fun strain talk....that would be a real fun time! Strains are a huge part of my love for our plant so always happy to have EVERYONE join in on these discussions. Thanks to all!

Oh we would smoke and talk till the dawn cracks

And here is something I found while looking for Crippy - OG connection!

Alot of the REAL people involved were either to cautious to speak up about it. With the times changing more information from people who know the origin of the original are begging to surface. If you listen to Bubba he says he thinks the bag seed he started came from Crippy.

So the reality is the cut that got passed west is a bag seed and their is no way its an s1 because I have grown and seen the crippy grown by many people and it has never shown a banana or any seeds I do know the real deal did make its way to Cali but it didn't come from Bubba and lets just say the person will remain nameless until they choose to speak up.

The truth is Crippy came from the island of Kauai and very few people have the real cut. It was never called OG or Kush until it made its way west and Breal and some others started rapping about it and what do you know the name stuck.

Orgnkids claiming the Ghost as the originally LMAO does it have the birthmark?

Pretty simple if you want to know if you got the real deal 3,4,5 finger leaves never more will throw a birth mark on leaf. Super viney plant will need support or will break its branches around week 5 on. Young flowering Hairs starting will be yellow tinged and the roots look like angle hair super thin. check out my IG @supakauai or @spaceboundanddown on Instagram he got his cut from me its the original anything looks the same without the birthmark is an s1 or a cross that leans heavily to the crippy mother.

I was very young when the crippy was discovered and my Dad passed away in 2007, the only other person I know with the real story as he and my pop brought it to Florida is bummer George and he is always traveling on surf trips so not easy to sit down and talk with him. I was told they brought seeds and a couple cuts of the crippy with them to bring to indo on a surf trip, Marijuana possession could get you the death penalty so why not grow it their vs. bring bud on them? Well they were layed over in Florida they decided not to bring the cuttings and only bring part of the seeds they had. Ironically Bummer George was incarcerated in Indo for possession/cultivation and it took awhile for him to be released back to Kauai atleast they didn't kill him for weed right? He said he lost all his killer phenos and seeds though .

My next question would be if the Florida boys did start the seeds why haven't they come forward? Will law changes in FL allow them to complete this story in the future? So did those seeds get started? Where did TK, Triangle and the White come from are they related to the crippy line I don't know...

To clear up some confusion I called the Crippy, duckfoot but its really the daughter of duckfoot another island strain we also dubbed the "Hawaiian Indica Webleaf" sorry no hashplant in crippy but I do know what the cross is and their is defiantly no chemdawg in crippy. I heard they are doing a geno project on a bunch of OG cuts and would love to have them test the real deal to put this all to rest.

I don't care what anyone says this is the truth and the creators of this power house deserve credit.

The Legend of Clones came from these island growers/breeders directly:

SupaBob
Jonsey
Cyclops
Bummer George
JJ

So where did the seeds come you might ask?

The good people who gifted the seeds were living at Taylor Camp in Haena on Kauai in the mid 70's for without these peoples actions the genetics wouldnt be around today! ( The crippy was found by crossing not just found from seed)

Taylor Camp Kauai - Nudist pot friendly tree house community "where else would all those seeds be " I know I would have lived their...

Batter UP!!! Let the bash commence I doubt 20% who read will even believe it but yup surfers from Hawaii
supakauai is offline

 

[Conradino23]

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Ah one thing, it seems this birthmark thing is a genuine trait for True OG... I've just done some digging looking at the photos of the true cut. It's basically a mutation on 3rd or 4th node that looks like that:

The plant on the photo is my OG which is S1 from 90's SoCal cut that my budy calls Ian's cut and has been grown northeast of LA for many years

 

[NorCaliwood]

re: Brightlight's Strain Fest - Organics & LED

Just driving by. Myself I have no trust in any names. People tend to start changing names of 'their' strains. Everyone has a white widow etc. I hear this is a orginal cut of this or that. Sure plants carry similar traits and look the same, but no one really knows what they are growing unless you happen to know the breeder and get a cut of theirs. I've seen so many people claim they have a original cut of something take GSC's yet plants are totally different. But these are suppose to be cuts of the original GSC's. And if true they should all be the same. It's just their version they come up with crossing similar strains most of the time.
What's in a name. To me there is only 3 different kinds of weed, good, better, and the best. All we can do is look for a plant we truly like and call the best. Now don't get me wrong there are true breeding seeds out there, and the net has made getting genetics alot easier. But I myself, have little faith in names. Keepem Green

 

[Duggan]

re: Brightlight's Strain Fest - Organics & LED

Mornin Bright....bin a while , i know...just cruisin thru ..hope all is well my brotha! Cheers eh!

 

[brightlight]

re: Brightlight's Strain Fest - Organics & LED

Just driving by. Myself I have no trust in any names. People tend to start changing names of 'their' strains. Everyone has a white widow etc. I hear this is a orginal cut of this or that. Sure plants carry similar traits and look the same, but no one really knows what they are growing unless you happen to know the breeder and get a cut of theirs. I've seen so many people claim they have a original cut of something take GSC's yet plants are totally different. But these are suppose to be cuts of the original GSC's. And if true they should all be the same. It's just their version they come up with crossing similar strains most of the time.
What's in a name. To me there is only 3 different kinds of weed, good, better, and the best. All we can do is look for a plant we truly like and call the best. Now don't get me wrong there are true breeding seeds out there, and the net has made getting genetics alot easier. But I myself, have little faith in names. Keepem Green

Good points NCW. I see some weird genetics by some breeders who then use a big time strain name. I've mostly stayed w/ large commercial breeders who may be more reputable to protect their name & profits. But recently, I've started buying from small boutique breeders who have good lines & may be honest to help build their brand. Commercial clone market is the same. Big outfits like Harborside don't verify its clones at all, although some of the big NorCal clone farms like Dark Heart, Queen Bee, Midnight Farms are reputable w/ authentic genetics. My love of genetics is just part of my love for our plant. Guess all we can do is our research, stay positive, & hope others also follow the Golden Rule.

Mornin Bright....bin a while , i know...just cruisin thru ..hope all is well my brotha! Cheers eh!

Always good to see you brother.

Cali Connection Louis XIII OG
My last photo run also included a Cali Connection Louis XIII. It was a replacement for a Ghost Train Haze, which weren't the most robust seedlings. The Louis was planted almost 4 wks. later than the other plants in that run. The seed went straight into the 2 gal. pot, which was something I wanted to try anyway. Even though it only vegged for 3 wks., it caught up w/ the others & ended up being one of the larger plants.

My 1st experience w/ the Louis cut was ~4 yrs. ago when Cali introduced it's Buddha Tahoe, which was Tahoe x Louis in the initial release. Liked Buddha Tahoe but just another good plant. This more recent Louis is also crossed w/ Tahoe, but WOW, it turned out to be a very special OG. I liked it early on, but mostly forgot about it for awhile over my excitement for the best SSSDH I've yet to grow. But I'll tell you what, the Louis has it all. Stinky chem, fuel dankness w/ flavorful taste much like the smell. The effect is potent Chem/OG type. Lively at 1st (not as pronounced as Chem or SD) & accompanied w/ heavyweight championship punch from the outset. After awhile, it does lead to extreme relaxation & pass out. A damn good OG. Highly recommended. I wished I'd kept more.

 

[drcannabi]

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Hi Brother Light! That Cali Connection Louis XIII OG sounds very good! Sounds like she's a great producer catching up with the other plants 3 weeks behind. That's a lot of time for a plant to make up. I often wonder if I veg too long. With the changes coming to WA I'll be dropping to a 12 plant limit July 1st. 6 plants for me and 6 for my patient.

My CC Sour Diesel is doing great and will be the star of the next show for sure. Very easy plant to grow but doesn't like to be trained IMO. The Dinachem is growing at 1/2 the speed the SD is. They do have a similar look though. Leaves are very close in appearance and neither likes training much.

Are you familiar with SoHum soil? I'm using it on my current grow and I'm very impressed so far. Just RO water and CaliMagic!

 

[brightlight]

re: Brightlight's Strain Fest - Organics & LED

I think you'd like the Louis doc. I don't think CC puts out many low/mid level strains, but the Louis is 1st CC to catch my full attention in awhile. Maybe I just burned through most of the best ones earlier, but this one is a fine herb. Liked it enough to go Louis hunting. I've been fiending on seeds again to kill time during my growing break. Big surprise there. Many new strains, including some Pisces Genetics Blood Orange OG....Louis & True x Sour Tangie. I've been eyeing Pisces line for awhile but could never get the ones I wanted...always sold out.

Looking fwd. to that SD & not surprised she's already the star. My recent ordering binge included some Loud SD & Headband. I've accepted "my problem".

I looked up the SoHum, which they give credit to Rev's TLO. Full coco organics....like it! I use all of its ingredients, but think maybe they have the % make up of the various ingredients down better than my experimental approach. What led you to try it? Expensive?

 

[Conradino23]

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Hey bright! I was just thinking if you have any experience with Aficionado Genetics and work of Ras Truth? They claim to be from Emerald Triangle and have some local genetics in stabilized form that looks perfect for outdoor.