Brightlight's Strain Fest: Organics & LED

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The way that I understand it, the first skunk variations were developed in Ca. then brought to Holland by Ben Donkers of Sensi shortly after the lines were developed. Once back in Holland he then began working these genes into the lines that Sensi had going at the time.
At least this is the story that I've heard and read. True or not I have no way of knowing for sure. What I do know for sure is that the skunk genetics are very prominent in the dutch lines regardless of their original US origin.

The first variations of skunk that I was exposed to all seemed to be heavily indica dominant. This was back around the mid 80's.
The buds seemed to be a darker shade of green and much more dense than any of the sativa's that were the norm around my area during that time.
When the first bags of skunk came around I collected whatever seeds could be found. When I began growing them out the following spring all had indica type leaves and growth structure. None of the seedlings or plants that I grew from skunk bag seed even closely resembled the sativa's of the day (Colombian, Mexican, Panama, Hawaiian, Thai, etc..) that I had grown previously.
Since becoming aware of the supposed heavy sativa lineage of the skunk strains (70% or more sativa as reported) I've always wondered why the ones that I grew out during the mid 80's exhibited such indica heavy traits.

In hindsight the leaves and growth structure may have been very similar to the hybrids of today. But since all I had been exposed to up until that point were the long and thin leaf sativa's I guess anything even remotely different was assumed to be an indica variety. LOL!! We live and learn. :)
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I mean yeah, I was just pointing that Skunk #1 and many early variations of this strain were developed in Cali by Sacred Seeds, and Skunk #1 itself was kept as sativa-dominant strain, so called sweet skunk. There were however indica-dominant variations like like Skunk #1 x Afghani bx-1 grown by Mendo Joe. The seeds were for sale through Seed Co in the 70s and they were $2 a seed back then which was very expensive. As the story goes Sam the Skunkman took the seeds of Skunk #1 and also Original Haze, Northern Lights, Early Girl, Durban Poison to Holland in 1982, and that's when Dutch started getting load of these genetics, and using them for then still a novelty indoor breeding programmes.

Most of these was really crossing Skunk #1 to Northern Lights, backcrossing and isolating potent phenos, exactly like they had already done it in Cali and other states. One of the most famous pheno of Skunk #1 was famous Orange Bud aka California Orange Bud or just California Orange, that is still sold by Dutch seedbanks although now much dilluted. I smoked it in the 90s, and it was a top-notch skunk back then. On the other hand Skunk #1 seeds have flown into Canada in 1982 after Sacred Seeds was busted. It's Mendo Joe who sold all his lines to Ziggy from The Federation Seeds Co at that time, Canadians even took his Romulan, but also Skunk #1 which they renamed Island Sweet Skunk. It's still offered by Next Generation Seeds which inherited the line and has quite good reviews.

These seeds were bought by Kansas guy known as Mr Dank who came out later with Golden Goat which is still kept in Bay Area as a clone, a lot of Skunk #1 genes there I can bet. Then we have Green Crack which is sweet version of Skunk #1 x Maple Leaf Indica or Afghani, and Grape Ape which is Skunk #1 x Mendocino Purple x Afgani, all of them very skunky. It's actually funny but Skunk #1 comes back all the time like in Cheese Quake new cross of SubCool who took Cheese Exodus Cut (which is pure Skunk #1) and crossed it to Querkle. I'm sure it's fire but it's just nothing new.

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Thanks for the skunk history lesson mate.
:Namaste::high-five:
This all fits with most of the stories that I've heard and read about.
I do remember the skunk that was called Cali Orange. I have some very fond memories of that one. In fact, I just seem to have experienced a flavor flashback as I was reading your post. LOL! :)
 
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Ditto on Uncle's post con...great info & from now on, we have a go to when needing Skunk info. Uncle....another Calif. Orange that made a name for itself around here was KO Kali-O. It seems Crockett (Crockett Family Farms) had his hand in DNA's Tangie, which is as citrus, orange smelling strain as any I can remember. He works with Calif. Orange so good to know a good breeder is continuing the line. Grew a Kosher Tangie that reeks citrus.:Namaste:
 
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As a matter of proof, the influential genetics that we've been discussing can be found in most all of the strains that I have in early veg at the moment.
The full list:
Jack Herer - Sensi
Fruity Juice - Sensi
Grape Ape - Apothocary
Grape Stomper OG - Gage Green Group
Emerald Jack - Emerald Triangle
Lemon Diesel - Emerald Triangle
Sour Lemon OG - Emerald Triangle
Blueberry Headband - Emerald Triangle
Cherry OG - Emerald Triangle
Chocolate Mint OG - Humbolt Seed Co.
Amherst Sour Diesel - Humbolt Seed Co.
Blue Dream - Humbolt Seed Co.
Strawberry Banana - DNA Genetics
Tangie - DNA Genetics
24K Gold (previously called Kosher Tangie) - DNA Genetics
DJ's Gold - DNA Genetics
Qleaner - TGA

As you can see there are only one or two on this list that may not be influenced by some of the strains that we've been discussing.
 
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Coincidentally, I'm chopping an Orange Hill Special today, which is Orange Bud x Cali Orange. :slide:

Unfortunately, the first one I harvested wasn't very orangey - I hope this one is better. It's by Dutch Passion, so ... Caveat Emptor, no? :laughtwo: ... f'n Dutch breeders ...

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... and it looks like classic Skunk #1 :thumb:
 
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That's a really lovely plant you have there Graytail!!
:Love::bravo:

Good luck with your harvest.
:goodluck:
 
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Hey Bright Light's. I don't mean to say a lot. Hell if I speak a tons of words,,,,,,,,,,, Doctor Suess couldn't keep up................. But myfriend she looks ripe..................................... Keepem Green. Hell I'm off to get drunk with Ozzy.........................
Keepem Green.........
 
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INDOOR UPDATE

Hello 420 Friends. :welcome:

Another indoor grow was started in August. I'd quickly listed the strains I'm growing, but couldn't even find them in my own journal so here they are again:

DNA Tangilope
Dutch Passion Mekong High
Emerald Triangle Cherry OG
Paradise Jacky White
Paradise Sensistar
Reserva Privada Cole Train


All 6 are either sativa dominant or indicas that have cerebral type highs much like sativas. I've grown 3 strains outdoors & 3 are new strains for me.

Sensistar is 100% indica, but has a very up, active, cerebral effect. My favorite all time indica that has my #1 for a very long time. A multiple Cannibis Cup winner. This is a strain I've grown often outdoors with some good results, but I've always wanted to try one indoors. So after a few indoor grows under my belt, it's time to give her a go.

Jacky White is another that I've grown often outdoors. She's 75/25 S/I. Paradise doesn't disclose genetics adding to her mystery.

Mekong High is 75% Vietnamese sativa. Some indica added to help her finish in sane time frame. I've only grown 2 plants outdoors, but this true Southeast Asian type herb....no indica traits evident whatsoever. Good story on her on DP site.

Cherry OG is Lost Coast OG x Cherry Thai. Lost Coast has quickly become a favorite so the Cherry OG has been on my short list. The Lost Coast has Lemon Thai so 2 types of Thai in one strain roped me right in. Who doesn't like Thai, right?

Tangilope is a promo seed that leaped into this grow after good results with LA Chocolat & Kosher Tangie (now called 24 Karat Gold).
Tangilope is a cross of the sativa sides of the LAC & KT....Tangie & Chocolope. Listed as 80/20 S/I.

Cole Train is an exotic NorCal herb that I've never grown or even tried. Back when the local Hazes had names like Silver Haze, Purple Haze, Blue Haze, a hybrid of a Silver Haze evolved into a strain called Jasmin. Jasmin was crossed with Trainwreck to create Cole Train. Cool play on words if you like jazz. Jasmin must have significant indica as CT is listed at 70/30 I/S. The effect, however, is described as cerebral. I've avoided growing Trainwreck as nearly all sampled TW was too tweaky for me. But CT sounds like a fun strain.
My plant had a "double node" mutation. A couple of pics on this at the end.

The ENTIRE seedling & veg. period has been condensed to this single post since most have seen plenty enough of this. Growers like UncleCannabis do a much better job than I can chronicling detail, so I'll leave it to them. EACH of the following photos are at weekly intervals. A little defoliation along the way but not much. I couldn't lift pots out of tent during my Shoulder Grow, which ended up fine with minimal defol. AND NO HERMIES, which left me wondering if defol. stress is component of hermies? The very last picture taken today shows them as they finish up transition & are showing some buds.

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Cole Train "mutation"
3 laterals grew from same spot with a 4th very close below it. What resulted was 2 main stems so double laterals. Like it was topped. There are so many laterals that I wonder what the bud sizes will be? Norcaliwood.....here are the pics you wondered about. I'll show a CT picture as it is now later so you can better see how it's turned out.
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The outdoor grow is winding down but still going on plus I've added a new, small tent that have 6 more seedlings up & at it. More on those 2 grows coming up. All this is keeping this old man grower busy. Thanks to all for following.
:thanks: :Namaste:
 
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Way to keep it going my friend. Looks like they're all off to a great start.
:thumb::high-five:
I'm really digging your strain selections. As always, it looks like you've done your homework and picked some good ones. It will be interesting to see how they turn out.

INDOOR UPDATE
The ENTIRE seedling & veg. period has been condensed to this single post since most have seen plenty enough of this. Growers like UncleCannabis do a much better job than I can chronicling detail, so I'll leave it to them.

Thanks for the compliment buddy but it's not really deserving. The details that I've been posting in the new journal are meant to help others that may just be starting out.
Since the intention is to help others I'd appreciate it if you step in anytime that you may notice that I'm giving bad advise or if you feel the urge to share your wealth of experience.

I'll be on the edge of my seat waiting for the next backyard update. :)
 
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Excellent start :thumb:
 
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Hey buddy. You mentioned that you've been dipping into the LA Chocolat jar. :bong:

I'd love to hear a smoke report. :Namaste:
 
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Some fantastic looking tweeners BL. Nice variety too. I've had some weird branching girls in the past, so I've looked it up. Instead of opposite decussate phyllotaxy, Cannabis can also exhibit alternate, or whorled phyllotaxy.

Always appreciate your strain selections....I'm going to enjoy watching these girls grow! :Namaste:
 
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Hey buddy. You mentioned that you've been dipping into the LA Chocolat jar. :bong:

I'd love to hear a smoke report. :Namaste:

Last of LA Chocolat harvested in June
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Uncle....I really like this strain but have been using it as mid to late night herb. It's plenty strong so at night after the usual sativa to indica daily swing, I need something that will give me a supercharge or lift that I can feel & enjoy. LA Chocolat does that for me, but it's my frequent choice at night because it has far less tendency than other indica types to make me fall asleep right away.

After your post I decided to check it out as my 1st vape bowl of the day. I don't detect much chocolate smells, but my son said "chocolate" when I asked him to smell it w/o telling him what strain it was. I get a little sweet coffee & also a little cedar & musk that made me think of Bubba. It's very smooth on the inhale, but has a sneaky but not excessive expansion after the hit. Some nice mild flavor notes on the exhale too.

Effect is pretty quick....hits you within a couple of minutes. My Arizer Solo times out after 12 min. At that point LAC is in full force.....physical stone felt all around the eyes & face. Very placid & dreamy. Body feels great & very relaxed. But the 40% sativa content keeps the mind flowing with happy & contented feelings. I could have easily just spent the afternoon in a relaxed chill, but went ahead with my planned transplant of 6 seedlings. After that I prepped & cooked dinner. So for 3 hrs. I stayed active & mentally engaged w/o little sense of come down. Enjoyed it all. LAC high lasts a long time at an enjoyable level throughout. A 2nd bowl after dinner was pretty darn good considering it was 2nd of day.

After growing this plant, I bought a full seed pack. Will next try one outdoors next year. Your smoke report request made me pay more attention to LAC's detail & qualities.....so thanks. Not just my usual.... :lot-o-toke:
 
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Terrific start and beyond, Brightlight. I'll be watching this closely.
:thanks:

Way to keep it going my friend. Looks like they're all off to a great start.
:thumb::high-five:
I'm really digging your strain selections. As always, it looks like you've done your homework and picked some good ones. It will be interesting to see how they turn out.

Thanks for the compliment buddy but it's not really deserving. The details that I've been posting in the new journal are meant to help others that may just be starting out.
Since the intention is to help others I'd appreciate it if you step in anytime that you may notice that I'm giving bad advise or if you feel the urge to share your wealth of experience.

I'll be on the edge of my seat waiting for the next backyard update. :)

Excellent start :thumb:

Plants are off to a great start! Looking Fine brightlight!

Gonna be a big harvest!!!

Some fantastic looking tweeners BL. Nice variety too. I've had some weird branching girls in the past, so I've looked it up. Instead of opposite decussate phyllotaxy, Cannabis can also exhibit alternate, or whorled phyllotaxy.

Always appreciate your strain selections....I'm going to enjoy watching these girls grow! :Namaste:

Thank you guys! Appreciate your support, following & kind words. Strains are a big part of the fun so happy to hear that my selections are of interest.

3 Weeks of 12/12.
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Cole Train
"Whorled Phyllotaxy". Thanks for that CareStaker. Looks just like a topped plant, doesn't it? The part I dig are all those resulting laterals. Turning out to be a nice plant. She has an amazing appetite for Mg.
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Grow Room Recap
Since not everyone has been here from the start, I'm going to recap some of the grow room basics. Most important is the "Brightlight", which is an Illumitex DS. 520 watts. 2' x 4' footprint. 96 LED "pkgs." with 16 diodes/pkg. at 5.4 watts/pkg. Fully dimmable, which has turned out to be a great feature. All flowering done directly under LED footprint for maximum umols so really growing in a 2' x 4' area.

Gorilla 4 x 4 tent using full 8' height extension. Vortex S-line 6" fan & Phresh filter. All plants grown in 2 gallon Root Pouch (grey level) pots. Coco medium. Fully amended....I use wide variety of stuff, 12-15 ingredients, but not a lot of any one ingredient. Details always available to anyone that is interested.

Only "training" is FIM. Usually 3/plant/grow. Sometimes a top to slow down a runaway....usually a sativa. Some late supercropping if necessary also for height control.

The Brightlight
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:Namaste:
 
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