Atlien0079
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Great update bro!!! Looking very tasty
Great update bro!!! Looking very tasty
Brightlight's Strain Fest: Organics & LED
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KodiakKid
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Excellent!
Excellent!
grimmreefer
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That Purple D sure is purdy!!
Looks like you have your hands full....of scissors for the next month or so.
That Purple D sure is purdy!!
Looks like you have your hands full....of scissors for the next month or so.
grimmreefer
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Oops
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Ouch you could always send me about 15 degrees. I'm going to back up abit and find that oddity you mentioned. Keepem Green
Ouch you could always send me about 15 degrees. I'm going to back up abit and find that oddity you mentioned. Keepem Green
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OUTDOOR UPDATE
Sorry I haven't updated or even acknowledged your visits & comments. Besides the outdoor garden, I have another indoor run under way. Plus I've put together another small indoor grow tent. Update on the indoor garden coming up soon.
Another apology for not ever thanking those of you who have given me "reps". Early on when I joined, I didn't even know what "reps" were, but now that I do, I'm remiss for not thanking those who gave them. So THANK YOU very much!
Thank you Uncle. The hot weather is not uncommon here in late summer & into autumn. Extended 105º range was a bit much though. It was tougher on the cut plants hanging in the garage than on the live ones outside. Made the grower fret some too.
Thanks Ms. B. I'm far enough away from the coast so much less humid & no outdoor bud rot/mold threats. Coastal fog often makes it in this far but burns off by ~mid day. Typical warm season weather is HOT & dry. Nights split between quite warm & cool when fog rolls in. Little or no rain during growing season but the occasional storm in summer can be heavy rains. I've had many branches heavy with flowers split/torn off main stem many times during late season rains. Not this yr....yet anyway.
Thank you con. Sept. harvest is not uncommon, but harvesting the Purple Diesel & GSC on Sept. 8th & 9th is definitely early. Thanks for tips. I add Gorilla Hair (shredded redwood bark) for mulch outdoors when plants taken outdoors in early June. I haven't grown pure landrace sativas for awhile since the going can get tough much beyond mid/end Oct. I've been lucky to find enough sativa hybrids I like where the high is pretty much pure sativa with the indica helping with an earlier finish but not showing up in high.
Thanks DK. 1st try on GSC. Turned out ok but not sure I'm a fan. More on that to follow.
Hey duggan. Thanks man. Mango Tango is from Elemental Seeds, which is connected to Elemental Wellness dispensary in San Jose, CA. I've heard good things about them, but have never visited. The MT was 1 of 2 regular promo seeds so I will take another try next yr. It has their flagship True OG in it, but IDK anything about it. I keep indoor grow to fems due to space.
Thanks for nice words Atlien, Kodiak, & grimm. Thanks for visiting. I put in the hours to trim the Purple Diesel & GSC last wk. to not get way behind this year. Ugh...many hours but got it done. Nice to have a broader harvest schedule this year.
Hey NCW. That "oddity" is on a Cole Train, which is part of the current indoor grow. They're finishing up veg now so time to include them in updates soon. I'll make sure I post a pic. Fyi for others...the CT had a node that was very close to a full double node....it has 4 laterals all emerging from main stem in very close proximity to each other.
CHEM 91
Harvest was delayed 5 days when yet another hot spell arrived. More like 100º - 103º this time. I wanted to check out an early harvest window version, but will have to wait. She was harvested on day 55 so adding another 10 for transition, she finished out at 65 days, which was shorter than either of her indoor sisters. Indoors I cut one at 72 days & experimented with the other taking her to 86 days. The current outdoor girl's buds look more advanced than either indoor version. ??? I love this strain so had to try an early vape. No disappointments....I was sleepy & yawning when I started. As soon as she hit, I was wide awake, alert, & feeling great. Chem 91 is an up, clear, smooth energizing, positive well being head accompanied with a make no doubt about it, strong but non lethargic, comforting body high. Smooth vape, Chemdawg taste & smell though not as pronounced as indoor versions. If anyone is curious....go for it, you will not be disappointed. Her lofty legendary status is well deserved.
LOST COAST OG
Coincidentally she was harvested on the same day as the Chem91. I say this because LG OG may be considered a modern day version of Chem91. Not changed really but a new version/interpretation of the same. LC OG is Chem #4 x (Lemon Thai x Pakistani). There are various versions/explanations of what exactly Chemdawg genetics are. I think the Thai x Pakistani theory fits best & apparently Emerald Triangle Seed folks agree. So they used old legacy Thai & Pakistani genetics & crossed it with Chem #4. Chem #4 is the 2006 "Reunion pheno" (seed from original bag of herb) that was thought to be the most like the original aka Chem91.
I wondered whether this year's slender, slighter LC OG would stack up to her Amazon woman sister grown outdoors last year. Not in plant size & stature, but an early test put a big grin on me. She turned out to be superb. Not the diesel, fuel type of taste & smell...more like sweet mild spices...vanilla & nutmeg. The high is nearly exactly like how I described the Chem91 above. Any Chem fans should consider this strain. Just a gem with so much to like & nothing to dislike.
CHEESE XXL AUTO
In July I threw 2 auto flower promo seeds into a 7 gal. pot. Soaked for a day & then planted "field style" directly into the pot. A day after she emerged, bugs completely sheared off the cotyledons. I took a picture of it, but never thought the plant would survive. Well, she did. 76 days later she was ~18" tall & harvested. This is only my 2nd ever auto so my knowledge & experience is scant. This one is far better looking than the 1st so I'm moving in the right direction. Fairly sticky, mostly fruity, some faint mint fragrance. I haven't tried it yet . But worth posting the pictures to show what a tough & resilient plant we all grow.
Girl Scout Cookies Buds
Finishing off update with some GSC bud pictures. Will give a quick smoke report on GSC & PD next time.
Thanks to all for visiting. I hope all is great with each of you & your gardens.
OUTDOOR UPDATE
Sorry I haven't updated or even acknowledged your visits & comments. Besides the outdoor garden, I have another indoor run under way. Plus I've put together another small indoor grow tent. Update on the indoor garden coming up soon.
Another apology for not ever thanking those of you who have given me "reps". Early on when I joined, I didn't even know what "reps" were, but now that I do, I'm remiss for not thanking those who gave them. So THANK YOU very much!
Looking good pal.
Sorry to hear about those high temps this late in Sep. It looks like the girls toughed it out nicely though.
I'm always memorized when looking at those lovely outdoor girls of yours.
Thank you Uncle. The hot weather is not uncommon here in late summer & into autumn. Extended 105º range was a bit much though. It was tougher on the cut plants hanging in the garage than on the live ones outside. Made the grower fret some too.
Hello Brighlight!
Some good looking fare you've got there.
The weather here also returned to low 30's over the last 3 days. I was grateful because I started to worry about BR after the thunderstorms....
Hope your weekend has started well
Thanks Ms. B. I'm far enough away from the coast so much less humid & no outdoor bud rot/mold threats. Coastal fog often makes it in this far but burns off by ~mid day. Typical warm season weather is HOT & dry. Nights split between quite warm & cool when fog rolls in. Little or no rain during growing season but the occasional storm in summer can be heavy rains. I've had many branches heavy with flowers split/torn off main stem many times during late season rains. Not this yr....yet anyway.
They look great, I'm always impressed how quickly they finish in NorCal, partly because you're closer to equator, and partly probably cause all these strain have been bred there for generations. Yep temps around 105F are a little bit too much for end of September, here I got them perfect now high 70s to low 80s, and flowers are puffing up after the rain! Maybe you could mulch, water on every day basis until heatwave breaks, and even add some calcium carbonate to improve transpiration. Anyway, the end is near
Thank you con. Sept. harvest is not uncommon, but harvesting the Purple Diesel & GSC on Sept. 8th & 9th is definitely early. Thanks for tips. I add Gorilla Hair (shredded redwood bark) for mulch outdoors when plants taken outdoors in early June. I haven't grown pure landrace sativas for awhile since the going can get tough much beyond mid/end Oct. I've been lucky to find enough sativa hybrids I like where the high is pretty much pure sativa with the indica helping with an earlier finish but not showing up in high.
Your garden is splended my friend.
Those nugs look divinely delicious.
and you gsc looks like a beast. Well done, well done.
Thanks DK. 1st try on GSC. Turned out ok but not sure I'm a fan. More on that to follow.
Mornin Bright....what a nice job brotha....excellent looking plants at finish. Some very interesting and tasty strains....shame about the Mango Tango. Gotta research that strain a little. Have an awesome day my brotha!
Hey duggan. Thanks man. Mango Tango is from Elemental Seeds, which is connected to Elemental Wellness dispensary in San Jose, CA. I've heard good things about them, but have never visited. The MT was 1 of 2 regular promo seeds so I will take another try next yr. It has their flagship True OG in it, but IDK anything about it. I keep indoor grow to fems due to space.
Thanks for nice words Atlien, Kodiak, & grimm. Thanks for visiting. I put in the hours to trim the Purple Diesel & GSC last wk. to not get way behind this year. Ugh...many hours but got it done. Nice to have a broader harvest schedule this year.
Hey NCW. That "oddity" is on a Cole Train, which is part of the current indoor grow. They're finishing up veg now so time to include them in updates soon. I'll make sure I post a pic. Fyi for others...the CT had a node that was very close to a full double node....it has 4 laterals all emerging from main stem in very close proximity to each other.
CHEM 91
Harvest was delayed 5 days when yet another hot spell arrived. More like 100º - 103º this time. I wanted to check out an early harvest window version, but will have to wait. She was harvested on day 55 so adding another 10 for transition, she finished out at 65 days, which was shorter than either of her indoor sisters. Indoors I cut one at 72 days & experimented with the other taking her to 86 days. The current outdoor girl's buds look more advanced than either indoor version. ??? I love this strain so had to try an early vape. No disappointments....I was sleepy & yawning when I started. As soon as she hit, I was wide awake, alert, & feeling great. Chem 91 is an up, clear, smooth energizing, positive well being head accompanied with a make no doubt about it, strong but non lethargic, comforting body high. Smooth vape, Chemdawg taste & smell though not as pronounced as indoor versions. If anyone is curious....go for it, you will not be disappointed. Her lofty legendary status is well deserved.
LOST COAST OG
Coincidentally she was harvested on the same day as the Chem91. I say this because LG OG may be considered a modern day version of Chem91. Not changed really but a new version/interpretation of the same. LC OG is Chem #4 x (Lemon Thai x Pakistani). There are various versions/explanations of what exactly Chemdawg genetics are. I think the Thai x Pakistani theory fits best & apparently Emerald Triangle Seed folks agree. So they used old legacy Thai & Pakistani genetics & crossed it with Chem #4. Chem #4 is the 2006 "Reunion pheno" (seed from original bag of herb) that was thought to be the most like the original aka Chem91.
I wondered whether this year's slender, slighter LC OG would stack up to her Amazon woman sister grown outdoors last year. Not in plant size & stature, but an early test put a big grin on me. She turned out to be superb. Not the diesel, fuel type of taste & smell...more like sweet mild spices...vanilla & nutmeg. The high is nearly exactly like how I described the Chem91 above. Any Chem fans should consider this strain. Just a gem with so much to like & nothing to dislike.
CHEESE XXL AUTO
In July I threw 2 auto flower promo seeds into a 7 gal. pot. Soaked for a day & then planted "field style" directly into the pot. A day after she emerged, bugs completely sheared off the cotyledons. I took a picture of it, but never thought the plant would survive. Well, she did. 76 days later she was ~18" tall & harvested. This is only my 2nd ever auto so my knowledge & experience is scant. This one is far better looking than the 1st so I'm moving in the right direction. Fairly sticky, mostly fruity, some faint mint fragrance. I haven't tried it yet . But worth posting the pictures to show what a tough & resilient plant we all grow.
Girl Scout Cookies Buds
Finishing off update with some GSC bud pictures. Will give a quick smoke report on GSC & PD next time.
Thanks to all for visiting. I hope all is great with each of you & your gardens.
UncleCannabis
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I'm drooling over your Chem 91 and Lost Coast OG. Nicely done my friend!
I've noticed that you seem to like the Chem genetics same as I do. I assume that you've grown out a few different Chem strains over the years. Do you have a short list of favorites by breeder that you'd care to share?
I'm drooling over your Chem 91 and Lost Coast OG. Nicely done my friend!
I've noticed that you seem to like the Chem genetics same as I do. I assume that you've grown out a few different Chem strains over the years. Do you have a short list of favorites by breeder that you'd care to share?
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Hey Unc! You & I could probably talk strains for hours & I know conradino & CareStaker would join us. Hope there are others....420 isn't strain talk heavy like some other forums. I love it so let's do it!
Pure original Chemdawg....I've only grown the Cali Connection offering. That he was able to use the "Skunk VA" handle gave me confidence in it. I actually only know of 2 other pure Chemdawgs....the DNA OG Kush & the Dinafem DinaChem. I'm sure there are some other seed companies offering it, but with so many breeders & companies, it's like filling a bucket with a thimble trying all the ones that catch our eye. I kinda stick to certain breeders that have panned out for me & usually go through full seed packs trying to hone in on a good plant, which limits my ability to try more. Please tell me of other straight Chemdawgs if you're familiar with some.
I've not read consistent reports on the DNA version, which is somewhat surprising considering their usual standards. So I haven't rushed to get them....yet. I do have a Dinafem Dinachem that I've wanted to grow for awhile. It is probably real since it is verified to have come from the JJ-NYC line of Chemdawg.
Adam at TH is well connected to JJ & AJ is also part of the NY stratospheric level breeder group, so TH (despite its mixed reviews that confuse me, since I've had so much luck with its strains) has access to pure orig. Chems & Sour. TH Underdawg is not the JJ-NYC Underdawg, but AJ's Stardawg, which I think is his name for JJ's Tresdawg...Chem91, Chem D & Chem #4. Drooling just typing the 3 in the same sentence. So I have a couple of TH Underdawg promos & really been telling myself to boost them up on the next to grow list as I've learned more about it.
If we extend this conversation to include the D's, #4's, Sis', Sours & OG's, we could talk for a longtime. Hope some others like this as much as us & join in. An ongoing strain (any & all) talk thread is WELCOME here.
I'm drooling over your Chem 91 and Lost Coast OG. Nicely done my friend!
I've noticed that you seem to like the Chem genetics same as I do. I assume that you've grown out a few different Chem strains over the years. Do you have a short list of favorites by breeder that you'd care to share?
Hey Unc! You & I could probably talk strains for hours & I know conradino & CareStaker would join us. Hope there are others....420 isn't strain talk heavy like some other forums. I love it so let's do it!
Pure original Chemdawg....I've only grown the Cali Connection offering. That he was able to use the "Skunk VA" handle gave me confidence in it. I actually only know of 2 other pure Chemdawgs....the DNA OG Kush & the Dinafem DinaChem. I'm sure there are some other seed companies offering it, but with so many breeders & companies, it's like filling a bucket with a thimble trying all the ones that catch our eye. I kinda stick to certain breeders that have panned out for me & usually go through full seed packs trying to hone in on a good plant, which limits my ability to try more. Please tell me of other straight Chemdawgs if you're familiar with some.
I've not read consistent reports on the DNA version, which is somewhat surprising considering their usual standards. So I haven't rushed to get them....yet. I do have a Dinafem Dinachem that I've wanted to grow for awhile. It is probably real since it is verified to have come from the JJ-NYC line of Chemdawg.
Adam at TH is well connected to JJ & AJ is also part of the NY stratospheric level breeder group, so TH (despite its mixed reviews that confuse me, since I've had so much luck with its strains) has access to pure orig. Chems & Sour. TH Underdawg is not the JJ-NYC Underdawg, but AJ's Stardawg, which I think is his name for JJ's Tresdawg...Chem91, Chem D & Chem #4. Drooling just typing the 3 in the same sentence. So I have a couple of TH Underdawg promos & really been telling myself to boost them up on the next to grow list as I've learned more about it.
If we extend this conversation to include the D's, #4's, Sis', Sours & OG's, we could talk for a longtime. Hope some others like this as much as us & join in. An ongoing strain (any & all) talk thread is WELCOME here.
Conradino23
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Chemdawg, aftergrowing Grape Dog and Ultra Dog I really know what the fuss is about. It ups the potency of every cross you make and gives you that stellar zip, doesn't it?
Chemdawg, aftergrowing Grape Dog and Ultra Dog I really know what the fuss is about. It ups the potency of every cross you make and gives you that stellar zip, doesn't it?
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"Stellar zip" is good description. I find that aspect of Chem rivals most sativas. Not too surprising since it is ~60/40 S/I. The accompanying indica power is a great compliment.
Chemdawg, aftergrowing Grape Dog and Ultra Dog I really know what the fuss is about. It ups the potency of every cross you make and gives you that stellar zip, doesn't it?
"Stellar zip" is good description. I find that aspect of Chem rivals most sativas. Not too surprising since it is ~60/40 S/I. The accompanying indica power is a great compliment.
UncleCannabis
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I'm a strain junkie myself. I collect seeds like some folks collect stamps. LOL!
I do notice that there is not as much strain discussions here on 420mag compared to some of the other sites.
420mag seems to attract a more mature and chilled out clientele than some of the others so I'm sure we could talk genetics till our faces turn blue without anyone jumping in and polluting your journal with the drama and mudslinging that I see on some sites when it comes to genetics and breeder discussions.
Is the Deadhead OG the Cali Connection variety that you are referring to?
I have some Chem seeds from various breeders but have been reluctant to try to grow any of them indoors due to odor concerns.
The itch for a Chem girl has finally gotten the best of me, so I do have an Amherst Diesel from Humbolt Seed Co. that is in early veg right now.
From what I've been able to dig up this is supposed to be a direct genetic descendant of the accidental pollination between the (Chemdawg 91 x Mass Super Skunk/NL) x DNL with DNL being a NL/Shiva Skunk x Hawaiian.
I've read a few good reviews about this one, but I still have my doubts about it's authenticity simply because of all of the rumors about the Chemdawg lines.
When I hear folks bad mouthing bag seed I almost always mention that the original Chemdawg 91, Sour D, OG Kush, Tahoe OG, and many other high quality and well known varieties can all trace their lineage back to a single ounce of seeded ganja.
Chem 91', OG Kush, and DJ's Blueberry seem to have become to US genetics what Jack Herer, Northern Lights, and Skunk #1 are to Dutch genetics.
I'm a strain junkie myself. I collect seeds like some folks collect stamps. LOL!
I do notice that there is not as much strain discussions here on 420mag compared to some of the other sites.
420mag seems to attract a more mature and chilled out clientele than some of the others so I'm sure we could talk genetics till our faces turn blue without anyone jumping in and polluting your journal with the drama and mudslinging that I see on some sites when it comes to genetics and breeder discussions.
Is the Deadhead OG the Cali Connection variety that you are referring to?
I have some Chem seeds from various breeders but have been reluctant to try to grow any of them indoors due to odor concerns.
The itch for a Chem girl has finally gotten the best of me, so I do have an Amherst Diesel from Humbolt Seed Co. that is in early veg right now.
From what I've been able to dig up this is supposed to be a direct genetic descendant of the accidental pollination between the (Chemdawg 91 x Mass Super Skunk/NL) x DNL with DNL being a NL/Shiva Skunk x Hawaiian.
I've read a few good reviews about this one, but I still have my doubts about it's authenticity simply because of all of the rumors about the Chemdawg lines.
When I hear folks bad mouthing bag seed I almost always mention that the original Chemdawg 91, Sour D, OG Kush, Tahoe OG, and many other high quality and well known varieties can all trace their lineage back to a single ounce of seeded ganja.
Chem 91', OG Kush, and DJ's Blueberry seem to have become to US genetics what Jack Herer, Northern Lights, and Skunk #1 are to Dutch genetics.
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Where I'm at, most of the local weed worth buying, was Chem based. We had the real SourD, east coast green-blue-gray-pink stinky buds...nothing like it. The only downside to growing your own is, not having access to the clone only genetics. Hopefully that will change in this state soon.
BL, great stuff as always, you got me thinking about that LC OG. Shopping for beans.
Where I'm at, most of the local weed worth buying, was Chem based. We had the real SourD, east coast green-blue-gray-pink stinky buds...nothing like it. The only downside to growing your own is, not having access to the clone only genetics. Hopefully that will change in this state soon.
BL, great stuff as always, you got me thinking about that LC OG. Shopping for beans.
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Amherst Sour Diesel is an outstanding smoke, and a great plant to grow. I've run a single genetic of her quite a bit, and she's got that unmistakable Chem power and smell. I had a Chem leaning plant, and the odor wasn't too bad -- moderately stinky, but, manageable. I don't know how it all worked out, but ASD is the original Chem91 X MSS Amherst (pheno of Mass Super Skunk). The DNL cross was for EastCoastSourD, which is my all time favorite, as you can tell from my prior post - with the DNL being the one secret ingredient. The pheno of MSS used to make Amherst (party college campus of Umass) Sour Diesel, is rumored to be of Sensi origin, and could also be attributed to the same 'skunk_va' person, that was also in possession of the original Chem. Well, that's all rumor from internet forum posts - so really, who knows. I remember getting baked at Umass Amherst many times, always good weed there. We were spoiled for east coasters, maybe because Chem was also from MA. There's some grown out ASD in my journal if you'd like to see how they grow.
Amherst Sour Diesel is an outstanding smoke, and a great plant to grow. I've run a single genetic of her quite a bit, and she's got that unmistakable Chem power and smell. I had a Chem leaning plant, and the odor wasn't too bad -- moderately stinky, but, manageable. I don't know how it all worked out, but ASD is the original Chem91 X MSS Amherst (pheno of Mass Super Skunk). The DNL cross was for EastCoastSourD, which is my all time favorite, as you can tell from my prior post - with the DNL being the one secret ingredient. The pheno of MSS used to make Amherst (party college campus of Umass) Sour Diesel, is rumored to be of Sensi origin, and could also be attributed to the same 'skunk_va' person, that was also in possession of the original Chem. Well, that's all rumor from internet forum posts - so really, who knows. I remember getting baked at Umass Amherst many times, always good weed there. We were spoiled for east coasters, maybe because Chem was also from MA.
There's some grown out ASD in my journal if you'd like to see how they grow.
Conradino23
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DJ Short said in one interview that his Blueberry became an important building block for West Coast genetics, and it's 70% of all strains that carry these genes. Might be less, but doesn't matter, it's important for sure. Then you have Chemdawg and OG family including loved Sour Diesel, all great strains. Skunk #1 is a good example of old school building block, but it's never been Dutch as it was developed in Santa Cruz, California. There is Auggie around here, he grew shitloads of plants with Mendocino Joe who grew his own variation of the original Skunk #1 in NorCal. In the 70s and 80s these were sativa-dominant strains carrying either Colombian Gold or Acapulco Gold punch, Green Crack is actually a variation of it, and my Colombian Punto Rojo is very similar!
DJ Short said in one interview that his Blueberry became an important building block for West Coast genetics, and it's 70% of all strains that carry these genes. Might be less, but doesn't matter, it's important for sure. Then you have Chemdawg and OG family including loved Sour Diesel, all great strains. Skunk #1 is a good example of old school building block, but it's never been Dutch as it was developed in Santa Cruz, California. There is Auggie around here, he grew shitloads of plants with Mendocino Joe who grew his own variation of the original Skunk #1 in NorCal. In the 70s and 80s these were sativa-dominant strains carrying either Colombian Gold or Acapulco Gold punch, Green Crack is actually a variation of it, and my Colombian Punto Rojo is very similar!
UncleCannabis
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Thanks for the Amherst SD report. Much appreciated!
Amherst Sour Diesel is an outstanding smoke, and a great plant to grow. I've run a single genetic of her quite a bit, and she's got that unmistakable Chem power and smell. I had a Chem leaning plant, and the odor wasn't too bad -- moderately stinky, but, manageable. I don't know how it all worked out, but ASD is the original Chem91 X MSS Amherst (pheno of Mass Super Skunk). The DNL cross was for EastCoastSourD, which is my all time favorite, as you can tell from my prior post - with the DNL being the one secret ingredient. The pheno of MSS used to make Amherst (party college campus of Umass) Sour Diesel, is rumored to be of Sensi origin, and could also be attributed to the same 'skunk_va' person, that was also in possession of the original Chem. Well, that's all rumor from internet forum posts - so really, who knows. I remember getting baked at Umass Amherst many times, always good weed there. We were spoiled for east coasters, maybe because Chem was also from MA.
Thanks for the Amherst SD report. Much appreciated!
UncleCannabis
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The way that I understand it, the first skunk variations were developed in Ca. then brought to Holland by Ben Donkers of Sensi shortly after the lines were developed. Once back in Holland he then began working these genes into the lines that Sensi had going at the time.
At least this is the story that I've heard and read. True or not I have no way of knowing for sure. What I do know for sure is that the skunk genetics are very prominent in the dutch lines regardless of their original US origin.
The first variations of skunk that I was exposed to all seemed to be heavily indica dominant. This was back around the mid 80's.
The buds seemed to be a darker shade of green and much more dense than any of the sativa's that were the norm around my area during that time.
When the first bags of skunk came around I collected whatever seeds could be found. When I began growing them out the following spring all had indica type leaves and growth structure. None of the seedlings or plants that I grew from skunk bag seed even closely resembled the sativa's of the day (Colombian, Mexican, Panama, Hawaiian, Thai, etc..) that I had grown previously.
Since becoming aware of the supposed heavy sativa lineage of the skunk strains (70% or more sativa as reported) I've always wondered why the ones that I grew out during the mid 80's exhibited such indica heavy traits.
In hindsight the leaves and growth structure may have been very similar to the hybrids of today. But since all I had been exposed to up until that point were the long and thin leaf sativa's I guess anything even remotely different was assumed to be an indica variety. LOL!! We live and learn.
The way that I understand it, the first skunk variations were developed in Ca. then brought to Holland by Ben Donkers of Sensi shortly after the lines were developed. Once back in Holland he then began working these genes into the lines that Sensi had going at the time.
At least this is the story that I've heard and read. True or not I have no way of knowing for sure. What I do know for sure is that the skunk genetics are very prominent in the dutch lines regardless of their original US origin.
The first variations of skunk that I was exposed to all seemed to be heavily indica dominant. This was back around the mid 80's.
The buds seemed to be a darker shade of green and much more dense than any of the sativa's that were the norm around my area during that time.
When the first bags of skunk came around I collected whatever seeds could be found. When I began growing them out the following spring all had indica type leaves and growth structure. None of the seedlings or plants that I grew from skunk bag seed even closely resembled the sativa's of the day (Colombian, Mexican, Panama, Hawaiian, Thai, etc..) that I had grown previously.
Since becoming aware of the supposed heavy sativa lineage of the skunk strains (70% or more sativa as reported) I've always wondered why the ones that I grew out during the mid 80's exhibited such indica heavy traits.
In hindsight the leaves and growth structure may have been very similar to the hybrids of today. But since all I had been exposed to up until that point were the long and thin leaf sativa's I guess anything even remotely different was assumed to be an indica variety. LOL!! We live and learn.
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That is a good looking plant Unc! Deadhead OG is the CC Chem91 x SFV OG. I've been growing the Chem91 w/o the SFV. Nice smelling but not that pungent. So ok as far as smell concerns. But Sours usually smell more I think. The Cali Sour is the one I've grown the most. ~1 of 3 plants reeks. The HSO ASD is one I will definitely try. For sure go check out CareStakers. You'll be happy you started one.
That is a good looking plant Unc! Deadhead OG is the CC Chem91 x SFV OG. I've been growing the Chem91 w/o the SFV. Nice smelling but not that pungent. So ok as far as smell concerns. But Sours usually smell more I think. The Cali Sour is the one I've grown the most. ~1 of 3 plants reeks. The HSO ASD is one I will definitely try. For sure go check out CareStakers. You'll be happy you started one.
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re: Brightlight's Strain Fest - Organics & LED
Good info CS. Any idea what the "unknown strain" that SD is crossed with on the ASD genetic tree in seedfinder? I guess this is how ASD differs from SD?
Amherst Sour Diesel is an outstanding smoke, and a great plant to grow. I've run a single genetic of her quite a bit, and she's got that unmistakable Chem power and smell. I had a Chem leaning plant, and the odor wasn't too bad -- moderately stinky, but, manageable. I don't know how it all worked out, but ASD is the original Chem91 X MSS Amherst (pheno of Mass Super Skunk). The DNL cross was for EastCoastSourD, which is my all time favorite, as you can tell from my prior post - with the DNL being the one secret ingredient. The pheno of MSS used to make Amherst (party college campus of Umass) Sour Diesel, is rumored to be of Sensi origin, and could also be attributed to the same 'skunk_va' person, that was also in possession of the original Chem. Well, that's all rumor from internet forum posts - so really, who knows. I remember getting baked at Umass Amherst many times, always good weed there. We were spoiled for east coasters, maybe because Chem was also from MA.
Good info CS. Any idea what the "unknown strain" that SD is crossed with on the ASD genetic tree in seedfinder? I guess this is how ASD differs from SD?
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re: Brightlight's Strain Fest - Organics & LED
What are some of the best Skunk lines in your experience? Such an important foundation strain used universally so now countless versions. I know grower who grows the entire Mr. Nice catalog & says Shantibaba's Skunk is one of the best.
The way that I understand it, the first skunk variations were developed in Ca. then brought to Holland by Ben Donkers of Sensi shortly after the lines were developed. Once back in Holland he then began working these genes into the lines that Sensi had going at the time.
At least this is the story that I've heard and read. True or not I have no way of knowing for sure. What I do know for sure is that the skunk genetics are very prominent in the dutch lines regardless of their original US origin.
The first variations of skunk that I was exposed to all seemed to be heavily indica dominant. This was back around the mid 80's.
The buds seemed to be a darker shade of green and much more dense than any of the sativa's that were the norm around my area during that time.
When the first bags of skunk came around I collected whatever seeds could be found. When I began growing them out the following spring all had indica type leaves and growth structure. None of the seedlings or plants that I grew from skunk bag seed even closely resembled the sativa's of the day (Colombian, Mexican, Panama, Hawaiian, Thai, etc..) that I had grown previously.
Since becoming aware of the supposed heavy sativa lineage of the skunk strains (70% or more sativa as reported) I've always wondered why the ones that I grew out during the mid 80's exhibited such indica heavy traits.
In hindsight the leaves and growth structure may have been very similar to the hybrids of today. But since all I had been exposed to up until that point were the long and thin leaf sativa's I guess anything even remotely different was assumed to be an indica variety. LOL!! We live and learn.
What are some of the best Skunk lines in your experience? Such an important foundation strain used universally so now countless versions. I know grower who grows
the entire Mr. Nice catalog & says Shantibaba's Skunk is one of the best.
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I'm holding the following Skunk seeds but haven't popped any of them yet:
Sensi Skunk, Skunk #1, Super Skunk, and Shiva Skunk - Sensi
Lemon Skunk and RKS - DNA
I must say that the Lemon Skunk from DNA that I've smoked in the past is really nice. Out of all of the skunk beans that I'm holding these are the ones that will likely get grown out first. Again, same as the chem and diesel lines I'm a bit worried about odor growing these indoors. LOL!!
My experience growing skunk is limited to the bag seeds that were found in bags of early skunk from the mid to late 80's. The last skunk plant that I grew was probably back around 2001 or 2002.
Not all of the skunk plants that I grew over the years were the same so there were some different strains or phenotypes but to everyone that I knew, myself included, it was all Skunk weed. If it smelled like skunk it was called Skunk. There was no Skunk #1, Super Skunk, etc that I was aware of back then. Keep in mind, I lived way down south along the Gulf Coast (way out in the boonies), and this was before I had access to the internet and google. So I was not privy to all of the MJ related information that is so readily available today.
Back then there weren't all types of fancy names attached to most of the MJ that was available. There were names such as Columbian Gold, Panama Red, Jamacian, Hawaiian, Acapulco Gold, Thai Stick, etc but almost everything else was either called Mexican brick (most common back then), Skunk, or Kind Bud (KGB - Kind Green Bud). Kind Bud/KGB was a generic name for all other primo smoke that didn't smell like skunk or bear similarities to the aforementioned sativas.
The exception was some really nice pine scented and flavored smoke that would come around every now and then that was called Pine Sense or Christmas Weed (one and the same) but it seemed to have disappeared after around 86' or so.
As soon as I'm able to take things outdoors I'll have the whole neighborhood thinking that someone opened a skunk petting zoo nearby.
What are some of the best Skunk lines in your experience? Such an important foundation strain used universally so now countless versions. I know grower who grows
I'm holding the following Skunk seeds but haven't popped any of them yet:
Sensi Skunk, Skunk #1, Super Skunk, and Shiva Skunk - Sensi
Lemon Skunk and RKS - DNA
I must say that the Lemon Skunk from DNA that I've smoked in the past is really nice. Out of all of the skunk beans that I'm holding these are the ones that will likely get grown out first. Again, same as the chem and diesel lines I'm a bit worried about odor growing these indoors. LOL!!
My experience growing skunk is limited to the bag seeds that were found in bags of early skunk from the mid to late 80's. The last skunk plant that I grew was probably back around 2001 or 2002.
Not all of the skunk plants that I grew over the years were the same so there were some different strains or phenotypes but to everyone that I knew, myself included, it was all Skunk weed. If it smelled like skunk it was called Skunk. There was no Skunk #1, Super Skunk, etc that I was aware of back then. Keep in mind, I lived way down south along the Gulf Coast (way out in the boonies), and this was before I had access to the internet and google. So I was not privy to all of the MJ related information that is so readily available today.
Back then there weren't all types of fancy names attached to most of the MJ that was available. There were names such as Columbian Gold, Panama Red, Jamacian, Hawaiian, Acapulco Gold, Thai Stick, etc but almost everything else was either called Mexican brick (most common back then), Skunk, or Kind Bud (KGB - Kind Green Bud). Kind Bud/KGB was a generic name for all other primo smoke that didn't smell like skunk or bear similarities to the aforementioned sativas.
The exception was some really nice pine scented and flavored smoke that would come around every now and then that was called Pine Sense or Christmas Weed (one and the same) but it seemed to have disappeared after around 86' or so.
As soon as I'm able to take things outdoors I'll have the whole neighborhood thinking that someone opened a skunk petting zoo nearby.
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