Thank you Boo. That gives me an idea of what I can aspire to, and puts my mind somewhat at ease about training.Thanks Carmen. Yes I did measure as they stretched and I don’t think any of them were taller than 2-3 feet from the top of the soil. I’d have to go back and look. I do train them just like @ Carcass and @ Trala but I just use pipe cleaners and clips on the edge of the pot. Like I said, my canopies are never as beautiful as many others’ around here and I don’t work super hard at it, I just want the lower nodes to catch up as much as they can with the top two nodes while the plant is in flower stretch.