BakedARea's Cultivated Blessings: A Myriad Of Genetics & Shenanigans

Hey everyone. Hope you're all doing well. I desperately needed to get some garden chores done. I couldn't put off transplanting any longer. Crossing my fingers and toes that I can manage to get some clones transplanted tomorrow. Couldn't quite get to those.

Here they are 3/19


Space Queen has been taken a beating. I pruned a lot of this off after the transplant today.



Today pre-transplant. They all got a chance to soak up some natural sun for a couple hours.

Please ignore the horrible mess behind them inside the greenhouse. It has been a snail's pace of getting tasks done lately. Glad I at least got started today. I cleared out a bunch of weeds and added some rocks to the left side. My desire would be to get rid of this tiny greenhouse. Then build a larger semi-permanent greenhouse. Until then, this will have to do until they are all ready for the outdoor garden. I will be keeping them small until then.

While they were outside, I mixed some of my @Sierra Natural Science SNS217 and every plant got sprayed on top and below the leaves for a complete treatment. It smells so good! I waited until the sun was off of them.

While I had some time for them to soak up the sun, I cleaned the inside of the tent! It was not fun, but it was needed. Feels good to know it got cleaned before going into flower. Simple green wipe down on the floor and walls. Followed up with an alcohol wipe down of the walls.
Then it was time for some more @420 Mag stickers!!

I followed up the cleaning with a spray barrier of permethrin.

Arthropods don't like the smell and it kills them if they linger for too long. I gave the bottom corners, duct openings, and windows. I sealed up the tent and headed outside to get the plants transplanted.

I had a few extra @ViparSpectra lights that I hadn't used since I put in the @BESTVA LED lights during the GSC Comparative Grow . I wanted to at least get the Vipar P2000 put in. So that's an extra 200W of light minimum. The other two lights are the P1500.

I took out one of the Bestva Pro1000 and added a P1500, giving me an extra 50W.

I'd like to add that the @ViparSpectra lights featured are not sponsored! A part of supporting our sponsors is buying their products! These are wonderful budget friendly lights. I really like being able to have individual lights. Freedom to adjust lights as needed for different plant needs. Eventually, I'd like to add a single light that could cover the entire tent from start to finish. It would force me to get better at canopy height management.

Onto the transplanting of the 76 day old ladies! Many thanks again to @GeoPot for sending me the kickass 7 gallon fabric pots! No doubt better than any other fabric pot I have ever used. Also, thanks for the recent 2 gallon prize pack! So stoked about those. About to use them tomorrow for the clones that will be vegging in those until final transplant for the outdoor garden.
Cinderella 99 - 1 gal to 7 gal @GeoPot - approx 5.5 gallons of soil
Rosetta Stone #1 - 1 gal to 7 gal @GeoPot - approx 5.5 gallons of soil
Rosetta Stone #2 - 1 gal to 5 gal fabric pot - approx 3.5 gallons of soil
Queen of Soul #1 - 1 gal to 1.5 cubic foot
Earth Box (Round 2)
Queen of Soul #3 - 1 gal to 5 gal fabric pot - approx 3.5 gallons of soil
Space Queen - 1 gal to 5 gal fabric pot - approx 3.5 gallons of soil

I purposely left space for the next few topdressings of @GeoFlora Nutrients . They were all due for their 2 week topdress AND transplanting 2 weeks ago! Glad I was finally able to get it done though. Another thanks to the GF team for this amazing nutrient line. I decided to keep the nutrients the same all the way through flower for this round.

I also included another dose of sponsor's product called 'Soil Activator' by Earth Alive products. It's amazing stuff and has a toasty coffee aroma!

Candida clone I was blessed to receive from @InTheShed ! She's at day 136 and went from her 2 gal fabric pot into the earth box. This is Round 2. It got amended with a dose of @GeoFlora Nutrients 'Veg' and then topdressed with an overdose of 'Bloom'. I'd like to point out that this box with thriving with worms in multiple stages of life. This box had not been watered since I harvested those tiny autos. It had a wonderful rich color with no foul smells, and still had moisture!

Last season, it only grew some teeny tiny autos. There should be a contest for worst plant of the month, I could have won that for sure!

If this plant takes a dive, then it will either be the quality of the soil, or my watering habits. The earth box was loaded with beneficial insects. Worms thriving...tells me the soil is balanced and healthy.

Just wanted to make sure I include a HUGE thanks to @DYNOMYCO for being an amazing sponsor here for this community.
Since being introduced to them during the GSC grow last year, I haven't used anything else.




Here they are again after a short rest of no lights for 3 hours. Tomorrow, they will get an extra 3 hours of light. Helps them produce extra energy to reduce transplant sadness. I set the lights to give the canopy a 650-700 average PPFD.

After the transplant, I watered them all in with some yucca extract, kelp extract, and @Sierra Natural Science SNS209 at 8mL/gal




The Candida is getting the back right corner of the tent to herself. She's also getting the @ViparSpectra P2000 all to herself. I have a lot of small branches left to cut off. I spread her out some more. Using some craft wire, created hooks for the branches and then hooked to the trunk nodes.

After they recover, then the lights will be flipped to flower to a 7am ON and 7pm OFF cycle. I will utilizing my peak solar production during those times. Should be enough to not pull any extra from the electric grid!

Thanks for swinging by folks. I appreciate you all, members and sponsors alike. Thanks for helping me grow these amazing plants!
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Yes. I agree. I did recently transplant into these final containers. Their roots at the time were solid and healthy. I don't really have anything specific to point me toward a root zone issue. I'd like to believe my microbes and another dosage of @DYNOMYCO recently would curb any possible issues.

Thankfully, fungus gnats aren't an issue right now. My plan is to keep it that way! I do have mosquito bits sprinkled on top getting watered in every time just as a preventative. Also, the @Sierra Natural Science SNS209 does do a great job at keeping them away when the root zone has enough of it being used. Keeps away other critters too. Thrips being the most annoying to keep at bay though! Thankfully, I haven't seen any recently. I'm still treating with the assumption they are present.

If the problem is with the roots and not a deficiency, could it be that I am overeatering them causing some root rot issues? Definitely possible! Except, I have a tendency to be an underwatering fool. Which sucks because it slows down the break down process of the @GeoFlora Nutrients . I'm not really sure which way to wrap my head around it. I have been more consistent this go round with keeping some moisture in the top 1/3 of the containers.

Last night they all shared 1 gallon of water to just moisten the topdress and mulch (worm castings). Having different genetics and different container sizes compounds the confusion but I am sticking to my moisture sticks (XL bamboo BBQ skewers) for watering guidance. The smaller 5 gallon pots were significantly dryer than the 7 gallon. The self-watering pot and garden box were both doing the best.


Yeah...well...I made 3 beautiful kids so that means I'm good at it right?! Plus I can grow cucumbers! That's cause for celebration in my book.
Really gald to see that DYNOMYCO helped developping and keeping your roots healthy!
That's why we are here ....
 
Is there a specific reason to slow the process down and make flowering take longer?
I have seen some growers get to the 12/12 slower than a single flip. Different philosophy I suppose that I'm curious to replicate the seasons. Not sure if it's even needed though.

I'd also skip the SNS for the next few weeks. Eliminate variables that way.
I hadn’t read this until this morning. We're on the same page because the last 2 waterings, I haven't included it. Simplify the formula!
Are you not watering to runoff because you think they were transplanted too recently to use it? If that's not it I would skip the yucca and drench them like it was pouring rain.
Typically, I am not watering to runoff. I am attempting to give at most 10% of the soil capacity in liquid. 5 gallons of soil = 0.5 gallons of water. I believe I am not doing that often enough.

Soil grower or not does not discount your opinion Shed.

They are looking better this morning after their topdress and fuller drench. I'll have to update again later. Thanks for chiming in.

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How wet are the bottoms and sides of the pots with 10% water volume? I'm in a much lighter medium than you and .7 gallons wouldn't touch all the roots in my 7 gallon pots.
They are definitely dryer than they probably should be. I primarily use skewers that reach the bottom of the pots. The past few checks have shown they are too dry. I'm currently increasing my drench quantity and frequency. But not doing too much too fast. And honestly, it's probably closer to 5% total volume because I'm afraid of overwatering. LOL.

So yeah...I'm fairly certain my primary care failure has to do with poor watering habits. It inhibits the nutrient breakdown further which is not helping them at all!
 

Good morning growers! Super stoked to be off work today and tomorrow! Really need it. A bit of a rough week to say the least. Slept in this morning about 4.5 hours past my goal...but it is ok. Just going to plug away with what I can and at least make a little dent on the task list. One step forward is better than none at all. Took a couple Blue Dream capsules I made a while back. Very mellow but hopefully able to curb some of the issues and get me moving.

A quick look at the male Cinderella 99 a couple days ago. Since then, I have seen a couple pods fall but they aren't opened. Almost like they dried too much on the branch. I gave him a decent drink yesterday to perk him up. Today, I'm going to go with @Stunger 's process of cutting off the branches of pods and let them finish that way. Going to do that a few times and hopefully collect something that way.


Another look at the clones outside! Giving them a few hours of direct sun every day. I overly drenched them a few days ago and you wouldn't even know it by looking at them. The power of the sun...it is simply better! I'm getting really excited about getting these plants ready for the outdoor garden. I've been slowly prepping the beds for the past month. Outdoor garden journal starting soon. I think these and this process is appropriate here in this perpetual journal.

And now...the sadness of the tent from the past week.
I truly believe that one of my issues is continuing to underwater. It keeps the nutrients and microbes from effectively breaking down. In turn, making them sad from not enough nutrients and moisture. Double whammy is my gut feeling here. @DonkeyDick , again I appreciate your insight previously. I believe it shouldn't be any root pests since I've been consistent with my SNS209 treatments. Not sure if you, or anyone for that matter, can help identifying anything else I'm too ignorant to observe.

A few days ago they all got 3 gallons of filtered tap w/ yucca extract at 1tsp/gal, Kelzyme at 1oz/3gal, and SNS209 at 8mL/gal.

*** Garden Tip ***
A little contact time with any products that increase your saponin percentage is important. It dissolves slowly! For example, I planned on watering in at least 3 gallons. So I decided that I would use 900mL of water. Then mixed in my 3 tsps of yucca extract. After an initial vigorous mixing, I let it sit for 15-30 minutes. Longer doesn't hurt. Then. Mix again and it is nearly all dissolved.
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This was 3/31 - a couple days after the last pic update of 3/28 and the C99 still has not corrected herself.

This was her this morning...after another small drench yesterday. A little perkier but barely. I'm concerned.

The rest of the tent this morning. Yesterday, they all got a small drench of only water just to moisten the top layer. Some of them were still too dry in the deeper root zones. As a reminder, I use long bamboo BBQ skewers for moisture observations.






If you made it this far down, thank you. I appreciate your time and following along my journey.

Tomorrow is topdress day. Going to manage that later this evening. I was hoping to get them flipped soon. Until I see happy plants, it's not happening! My only goal is to see them happy. I will be slowly decreasing their DLI until flip day. Or should I flip then suddenly from 21/3 to 12/12?

Here is the tent environment for the past week.
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The dips down in temps are between 7pm - 10pm during lights out. I have the exhaust fan set to turn on at 80°. It is maxed out at 50% at the moment. A/C unit kicks on at 84° since the exhaust fan can't keep up. The ambient air temps in the garage are starting to climb. So begins my struggles with ambient temps again. Trying to do this with minimal energy used. More adjustments needed!

I'm planning on moving my fan output to 75% and move my fan target temp down to 75°. AC units stay at 84°.

What or how would you do?!
Well since you asked lolllllled.

If it was me, I’d water them.

Do you grow other plants? Coz at the end of the day, it’s just another plant. I do think I see so much over complication when it comes to watering plants in here lol. If you can grow other things, then apply the same rationale. Tho if you can’t, Emilya is a great person to teach you when it comes to watching plant needs based on its health.
 
Well since you asked lolllllled.

If it was me, I’d water them.

Do you grow other plants? Coz at the end of the day, it’s just another plant. I do think I see so much over complication when it comes to watering in here. If you can grow other things, then apply the same rationale. Tho if you can’t, Emilya is a great person to teach you when it comes to watching plant needs based on its health.
Yes. I grow a bunch of other plants. Indoor and outdoor. Sorry but not all plants are the same. Different growing mediums. Different nutrient uptake. Different growth patterns. I just don't agree with that statement. I understand your approach to simplify it though. Different containers are another variable I forgot to mention. Lol

My concern is moreso about overwatered plants have more difficulty overcoming the consequences of that versus underwatering. So I have been too conservative in that regard. I have been slowly giving them more though. Some of their symptoms have looked like overwatered plants which had me holding back on the quantity but that appears to be a mistake. They were asking for more and it has caused some nutrient deficiencies/lock outs.
 
Yes. I grow a bunch of other plants. Indoor and outdoor. Sorry but not all plants are the same. Different growing mediums. Different nutrient uptake. Different growth patterns. I just don't agree with that statement. I understand your approach to simplify it though. Different containers are another variable I forgot to mention. Lol
Sorry, what I mean is the foundation for growing is the same. When you understand the species, the plants foliage tells you what it needs. And exactly, different dirt/breed warrant for different treatment ie ferns light sun and moist, natives full sun and can cope with dry as fuck, their foliage will tell you what it needs, and the common denominator is water. I think it’s like trying to learn a new plant language. Because they all speak, I just need to work out what they are trying to say. Lollll
My concern is moreso about overwatered plants have more difficulty overcoming the consequences of that versus underwatering. So I have been too conservative in that regard. I have been slowly giving them more though. Some of their symptoms have looked like overwatered plants which had me holding back on the quantity but that appears to be a mistake. They were asking for more and it has caused some nutrient deficiencies/lock outs.
I had so much trouble when I first joined here, I was overthinking and trying to reinvent my grow wheel. I had terrible droop a few grows ago, my climate is hot, really hot and while the majority, and when I say majority I mean all of my advisers were saying overwater, I could see them getting worse. I now trust my gut and go by plant happiness and weight of my pots, like I always have when growing house plants. If there isn’t a problem I don’t look for fixes. Granted you defs have a problem. I think @Emilya is the definite water goddess when it comes to teaching people how to read their plants and understand the plants language and thirst.
 
I think it’s like trying to learn a new plant language. Because they all speak, I just need to work out what they are trying to say. Lollll
Completely agree! Every plant has their own language. I have compounded my interpretation problems by having different types of pots and different sizes. Haaa haaa. So who knows wtf they are telling me at this point.
:rofl:
advisers were saying overwater, I could see them getting worse. I now trust my gut and go by plant happiness and weight of my pots,
Yeah...I was thinking I was overwatering too. I need to trust my gut more often as well. Thanks for that T
 
Completely agree! Every plant has their own language. I have compounded my interpretation problems by having different types of pots and different sizes. Haaa haaa. So who knows wtf they are telling me at this point.
:rofl:
I think you grow well, really well. I’m sure you will work it out.
Yeah...I was thinking I was overwatering too. I need to trust my gut more often as well. Thanks for that T
Sometimes I think they just want to be left alone for a couple of days. I’ve just endured this with a Dos Si Do. I call her Maya, and she was just sad. I could feel by her pot it wasn’t thirst, or overwater for that matter, so I just let her be for a couple of days, and yesterday when I woke her up she was big smiling at me.
 
Here are pics from this morning. Clearly they have been suffering, but I am hopeful that the recovery this week will be positive. They actually looked better this morning than they have the past couple days.

They all got another small drench this morning. I'm going to do what Shed suggested and soak them until I have a decent runoff.

@InTheShed I forgot to address the yucca extract input. It is meant to slow down the watering process and get more evenly distributed moisture in the soil. Not necessary. Just a good input in my experience.

Candida is starting to show signs of being unhappy too.


 
I forgot to address the yucca extract input. It is meant to slow down the watering process and get more evenly distributed moisture in the soil. Not necessary. Just a good input in my experience.
Slowing down the water distribution with surfactants using a very small amount of water might mean that no water ever makes it beyond the top few inches. Water is what plants crave, not surfactants. Too many input parameters and maybe even a toxic buildup of SNS in the top layer of the soil. If the pots are light, water to runoff with plain water.

That's my two additional cents!
 
Running through with an update if aggravation and concern. The past 2 days have been plagued with the power to my lights going in and out due to an overload of the surge protector! It was my exhaust fan pulling too many amps when it ramped up to full power. Got that and the little fans switched out to another line and turned it down to 50% for good measure. Plus I lowered the lights and turned down the bigger ones. Still need to make some more adjustments. But most importantly was to keep the lights on. Having all this happen after bending was not ideal. The C99 has been slow to recover because of it. The Rosetta Stone #2 looks like all the nodes are facing the right way thankfully.

Any whoooooo...need to take off. I'll have to catch up with everyone a different night. Blessings y'all.


C99
RS #2
What a beautiful set-up. Wish I had the space. :adore:
 
Hey folks!! Sorry for the absence and delay in responses.
If the pots are light, water to runoff with plain water.

That's my two additional cents!
I've been only watering with water this week. They are looking much better. Pic updates below.

Not sure how I feel about the surfactant opinion. It helps distribute the moisture evenly through the medium. That is my understanding. So I would agree that I am/was not watering enough. No doubt about that! I have been drenching by using a garden sprayer. I used to just use a watering can and I would pour too quickly. Now, I take the spray head off and get to work. It takes a few minutes to get through the gallon of water using the sprayer. If I drench too quickly without a surfactant, it can pass right through. With all that said though, I have removed the variables in my drenches and increased the frequency and quantity. They are getting better.

What a beautiful set-up. Wish I had the space. :adore:
Thanks Scott! I wish I had more space too! Haa haa :passitleft:
I can be an underwaterer if I'm not careful. When that happens my plants get strange symptoms they shouldn't. :) When my garden is growing the best, it's always from when I've been watering to runoff and getting into a good cycle of watering early in veg.
Thanks Otter. This has bit me in the ass a few times now. Trying to be too careful and causing excessive droughting stress! On the bright side, when it comes to droughting late in flower...I'm a master!!! ;)
 
Last pics I posted was Tues 4/5. I have been drenching them with water only and increased the frequency. They got a drench on Tues until I saw them dripping. I don't have drip pans underneath them so it will be a dirty tent after harvest. Oh well!

Here they are 4/7 AM. I dispersed 2 gallons of drench between all the plants.

Then 4/7 PM and another 2 gallons in the late afternoon along with some cleanup of dead or unhealthy foliage.
New growth looks happy.


I pushed some branches down on this Rosetta Stone to even out the canopy some more.

In case someone is wondering, I have the main lights on a 12/12 cycle and have these lights on as supplemental light at 16/8 until I feel they are ready for the flip.

Here they are this morning
Queen of Soul #3 is clearly the happiest of the bunch still!
 
Loving the drenching!
Right?! Yeah, they were slowly dying of thirst but also, not enough moisture to break down all the GF nutrients. I need to get this figured out. I feel shitty about it but also glad that I'm learning. Appreciate you man. Please know that.
 
Here's some update pics from last night showing more improvement and this morning with even more. They all got another drench of water only this morning. I split 5 gallons between them all.



Candida damage vs new growth. I had a brief discussion with Shed...I was thinking of taking her out of the garden box and get her into a smaller container. I'm on the fence about that. I'd rather not wait even longer before flipping.

The new growth on this Rosetta Stone is telling me she's much happier. This plant is ready to flower in my eyes.
Here's the same plant this morning.

And all of them this morning. I want to rip off all the nasty looking leaves. Just to pretend for a short moment that everything is going swimmingly.

Have a wonderful and blessed day fellow growers!
 
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