BakedARea's Cultivated Blessings: A Myriad Of Genetics & Shenanigans

[Stunger]

Just out of curiosity, how old was he when his first sacs started to open up? He only getting about 12 hrs of light for the past couple weeks. So technically flipped but the days are getting longer. Don't want him to reveg, but those sacs look far enough along that they should open up...right?

Sorry BA, I completely missed notification of this.

Broadly speaking the first 'early' opening that I saw of pollen balls was mid February. But in past experience with plants grown from regular seeds, where I have paid very close and early attention in order to look for developing signs of gender, I have occasionally found a few early female pre flowers weeks before the Summer solstice, so I can also imagine that a male plant could also produce some solo pollen balls that could go also unseen.

I started collected stems with pollen balls from late February, allowing them to dry, some will open and release their pollen on their own, others once dried can be rubbed around in a sieve to help release their pollen contents.

I love the composter for mixing my soil. Open it up to empty it out in a tray underneath, and transfer into bigger totes for storage. Reduced my physical mixing time by quite a bit with more evenly mixed ingredients. Most clumps are broken up too.

I have a similar tumbler that I first used to mix up a batch of super soil some years ago. What I didn't use, stayed in the tumbler and I'd remove some when I needed for other plantings. But because of the worm castings I added, I ended up with a bunch of worms living in it, and they really didn't appreciate being tumbled, so out of respect to those little guys I tend to leave my tumbler resting as another worm farm!

 

[BakedARea]

I could size the recipe for the tumbler. I won't forget this one. I have a pretty good way for now but it gets harder every time. It'll help. Thanks!

Glad that this way may help someone!

Hello BakedArea

Finally found my way here, hehe. Mind if I grab a seat?

Absolutely! Glad you're here Verb!

A poll on whether to have a poll.
Classic. And you already have a couple of votes!

Jedi mind tricks!

I started collected stems with pollen balls from late February, allowing them to dry, some will open and release their pollen on their own, others once dried can be rubbed around in a sieve to help release their pollen contents.

That's right! I forgot you chopped some branches before they ever opened. I think some of mine are ready to pop open soon.

Current battle set 3/25 was between 5 days @InTheShed & 3 days @StoneOtter
Here they are today...a couple look like they want to be open... thoughts?

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• BakedARea
• Mar 27, 2022

But because of the worm castings I added, I ended up with a bunch of worms living in it, and they really didn't appreciate being tumbled, so out of respect to those little guys I tend to leave my tumbler resting as another worm farm!

That's awesome! I love finding worms in random containers or soil mixes I've made. Thus far, the most prolific population is in one of my compost bins and the garden box that the Candida is currently in!

@Stunger Did you ever think about the tumbler's feelings? Not being used and abused like it wants to be? A little insensitive if you ask me mister!

 

[Stunger]

That's right! I forgot you chopped some branches before they ever opened. I think some of mine are ready to pop open soon.

Current battle set 3/25 was between 5 days @InTheShed & 3 days @StoneOtter
Here they are today...a couple look like they want to be open... thoughts?

Cheers BA, some of those look very very close to opening.

When I chose stems to cut, I waited for until some pollen balls had actually opened, because then I knew that the pollen of those pods was mature/ready, and that meant that other pollen balls that were very close would likely mature and open after being cut and left to dry. The smaller more immature pollen balls, I presume would more likely contain only immature pollen. And then, there are those pollen balls that weren't yet fully mature, but when rubbed around in the sieve they too can open and spill their contents. Sorry for the waffle, the bottom line is they almost there!

 

[BakedARea]

Cheers BA, some of those look very very close to opening.

When I chose stems to cut, I waited for until some pollen balls had actually opened, because then I knew that the pollen of those pods was mature/ready, and that meant that other pollen balls that were very close would likely mature and open after being cut and left to dry. The smaller more immature pollen balls, I presume would more likely contain only immature pollen. And then, there are those pollen balls that weren't yet fully mature, but when rubbed around in the sieve they too can open and spill their contents. Sorry for the waffle, the bottom line is they almost there!

No no...helps me a lot! I brought him in tonight anyway to be on the safe side. Minimize his light exposure and start droughting him. Force him to mature. That's my theory anyway. Not sure that will work with males, but figured I'd try.

He's putting out some beautiful and aromatic flowers though!

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• BakedARea
• Mar 27, 2022

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• Mar 27, 2022

 

[Stunger]

I must say, pretty looking pods.

 

[BakedARea]

Running through with an update if aggravation and concern. The past 2 days have been plagued with the power to my lights going in and out due to an overload of the surge protector! It was my exhaust fan pulling too many amps when it ramped up to full power. Got that and the little fans switched out to another line and turned it down to 50% for good measure. Plus I lowered the lights and turned down the bigger ones. Still need to make some more adjustments. But most importantly was to keep the lights on. Having all this happen after bending was not ideal. The C99 has been slow to recover because of it. The Rosetta Stone #2 looks like all the nodes are facing the right way thankfully.

Any whoooooo...need to take off. I'll have to catch up with everyone a different night. Blessings y'all.

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• BakedARea
• Mar 27, 2022

C99

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• Mar 27, 2022

RS #2

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[BakedARea]

Another quick pic update from this morning. My adjustments have been working on the power stayed on throughout the night!

They have not had any water for a couple days. I'll be giving them a drench later this evening.

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• BakedARea
• Mar 28, 2022

So some close ups of each plant. Looking at the group shot, I'm going to move from the front right to the back, middle front, middle back, then the left two plants.

Another day or two and she should be all the nodes should be pointing the right direction.

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• BakedARea
• Mar 28, 2022

Lower canopy is showing stress but the rest if the growth looks lush. I'm a bit confused. I have fan leaves droopy, which can be an indication of too much water. The upper parts of the nodes are stretching and appear to be happy. Any ideas?

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• BakedARea
• Mar 28, 2022

Candida is looking happy in my eyes!

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• BakedARea
• Mar 28, 2022

Space Queen is still showing signs of either a deficit or excess. I'm leaning toward a potassium deficiency. The top few nodes and growth are all green and lush though. My inclination is to not make any adjustments right now.
Thoughts?

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• BakedARea
• Mar 28, 2022

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• BakedARea
• Mar 28, 2022

Rosetta Stone #1 appears to be showing signs of a deficiency now. Stress from transplant showing its ugly face? Or something it is missing? Being organic inputs, it may need another week or two before another load of nutrients are bioavailable. What would you do with her if she was yours?

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• BakedARea
• Mar 28, 2022

Rosetta #2 on the right and Queen of Soul #3 on the left looking the happiest of them all. Praying and pushing those lower nodes out to reach for more light. She's going to be a beauty! If I can keep her that way.

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• BakedARea
• Mar 28, 2022

Thanks for stopping by 420 Mag fam. You're appreciated and your insights are always welcomed here! Even if there is something I'm not seeing that you see...please feel encouraged to say something anytime. I want this to be a positive learning journal for anyone that happens upon it. Blessings y'all.

 

[Stunger]

Lower canopy is showing stress but the rest if the growth looks lush. I'm a bit confused. I have fan leaves droopy, which can be an indication of too much water. The upper parts of the nodes are stretching and appear to be happy. Any ideas?

Hey BA, my cheap guess here (just 2 cents worth!), is that the plant is prioritising who gets the resources. That's what I feel after having seen similar things many times growing outdoors whether the weather can rapidly dry a plant out. The plant desperately wants to protect it's growing tips and will divert resources, in this case it looks like water being the one in demand, from the lower less critical parts to the upper parts.

 

[BakedARea]

the plant is prioritising who gets the resources

Makes sense to me. It happens so quickly. I feel like I just pruned off some ugly leaves and then boom...more ugly leaves!

The plant desperately wants to protect it's growing tips and will divert resources, in this case it looks like water being the one in demand, from the lower less critical parts to the upper parts.

I have not been giving them deep drenches. Only a little bit at a time thus far. I was worried about overly drenched pots since they don't have enough roots to drink that water. Thanks for the insight Stung.

 

[InTheShed]

You don't want my advice on organic soil grows so I'll just answer this:

Current battle set 3/25 was between 5 days @InTheShed & 3 days @StoneOtter. Here they are today...a couple look like they want to be open... thoughts?

It's been 3 days, of course they're starting to open!

Love the colors on that male BTW.

 

[DonkeyDick]

When my plants start looking distressed I most often find root issues - gnats for example. So, mozzie dunks get chipped and sprinkled and the roots get a rest.
I’ll give the microherd a further boost with some myco too. Then when I give a plant like that a nitrogen bump she’s more likely to take it up. (That’s free from me. I can’t be assed with the admin for a 2c invoice. Not when exchange rates are factored in. I’d probably end up owing you!)
Normally I can say here take my advice I’m not using it, but I have been breaking the life cycles for gnats in a couple of pots. I don’t give the mycos until I want a plant to boost. I like to be able to stall a healthy plant in veg until I want to get her going.

 

[Trala]

Hey Rea

I know we are semi taught not to celebrate man when it comes to plants and sex, but that pic of your young boy is just beautiful

 

[BakedARea]

When my plants start looking distressed I most often find root issues

Yes. I agree. I did recently transplant into these final containers. Their roots at the time were solid and healthy. I don't really have anything specific to point me toward a root zone issue. I'd like to believe my microbes and another dosage of @DYNOMYCO recently would curb any possible issues.

Thankfully, fungus gnats aren't an issue right now. My plan is to keep it that way! I do have mosquito bits sprinkled on top getting watered in every time just as a preventative. Also, the @Sierra Natural Science SNS209 does do a great job at keeping them away when the root zone has enough of it being used. Keeps away other critters too. Thrips being the most annoying to keep at bay though! Thankfully, I haven't seen any recently. I'm still treating with the assumption they are present.

If the problem is with the roots and not a deficiency, could it be that I am overeatering them causing some root rot issues? Definitely possible! Except, I have a tendency to be an underwatering fool. Which sucks because it slows down the break down process of the @GeoFlora Nutrients . I'm not really sure which way to wrap my head around it. I have been more consistent this go round with keeping some moisture in the top 1/3 of the containers.

Last night they all shared 1 gallon of water to just moisten the topdress and mulch (worm castings). Having different genetics and different container sizes compounds the confusion but I am sticking to my moisture sticks (XL bamboo BBQ skewers) for watering guidance. The smaller 5 gallon pots were significantly dryer than the 7 gallon. The self-watering pot and garden box were both doing the best.

not to celebrate man when it comes to plants and sex, but that pic of your young boy is just beautiful

Yeah...well...I made 3 beautiful kids so that means I'm good at it right?! Plus I can grow cucumbers! That's cause for celebration in my book.

 

[BakedARea]

Hey 420 Mag fam! It's been great to see the clones doing so good since the transplant. The transition to the outside temps haven't deterred them from growing!

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• BakedARea
• Mar 29, 2022

I have 3 Candida clones that are looking about the same. Excellent and beautiful growth in my book! @InTheShed

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• Mar 29, 2022

Rosetta Stone

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• Mar 29, 2022

Cinderella 99

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• Mar 29, 2022

The newest clones are growing and rooting even with all the cold weather.

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• BakedARea
• Mar 29, 2022

A look at the temps and humidity over the past week inside the greenhouse. I figured some of you may be interested in seeing the plant's resilience under cold temps.

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• Mar 29, 2022

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• Mar 29, 2022

 

[StoneOtter]

What a swing they have!

 

[BakedARea]

What a swing they have!

Right?! 40° swing in the temps I would have thought for sure I'd have some unhappy plants. NOPE! Not one bit! They are growing! Their foliage communicates the opposite of what I was expecting to see honestly. I figured they would be going through a month or two of struggling because of the still crisp nights and mornings. I could get better growth if it were warmed. No doubt about that. But knowing the limits of my growing zone is an important factor for my future decisions.

 

[StoneOtter]

Nice!

 

[BakedARea]

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• BakedARea
• Apr 2, 2022

Good morning growers! Super stoked to be off work today and tomorrow! Really need it. A bit of a rough week to say the least. Slept in this morning about 4.5 hours past my goal...but it is ok. Just going to plug away with what I can and at least make a little dent on the task list. One step forward is better than none at all. Took a couple Blue Dream capsules I made a while back. Very mellow but hopefully able to curb some of the issues and get me moving.

A quick look at the male Cinderella 99 a couple days ago. Since then, I have seen a couple pods fall but they aren't opened. Almost like they dried too much on the branch. I gave him a decent drink yesterday to perk him up. Today, I'm going to go with @Stunger 's process of cutting off the branches of pods and let them finish that way. Going to do that a few times and hopefully collect something that way.

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• Apr 2, 2022

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Another look at the clones outside! Giving them a few hours of direct sun every day. I overly drenched them a few days ago and you wouldn't even know it by looking at them. The power of the sun...it is simply better! I'm getting really excited about getting these plants ready for the outdoor garden. I've been slowly prepping the beds for the past month. Outdoor garden journal starting soon. I think these and this process is appropriate here in this perpetual journal.

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• BakedARea
• Apr 2, 2022

And now...the sadness of the tent from the past week.

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• BakedARea
• Mar 31, 2022

I truly believe that one of my issues is continuing to underwater. It keeps the nutrients and microbes from effectively breaking down. In turn, making them sad from not enough nutrients and moisture. Double whammy is my gut feeling here. @DonkeyDick , again I appreciate your insight previously. I believe it shouldn't be any root pests since I've been consistent with my SNS209 treatments. Not sure if you, or anyone for that matter, can help identifying anything else I'm too ignorant to observe.

A few days ago they all got 3 gallons of filtered tap w/ yucca extract at 1tsp/gal, Kelzyme at 1oz/3gal, and SNS209 at 8mL/gal.

*** Garden Tip ***
A little contact time with any products that increase your saponin percentage is important. It dissolves slowly! For example, I planned on watering in at least 3 gallons. So I decided that I would use 900mL of water. Then mixed in my 3 tsps of yucca extract. After an initial vigorous mixing, I let it sit for 15-30 minutes. Longer doesn't hurt. Then. Mix again and it is nearly all dissolved.
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This was 3/31 - a couple days after the last pic update of 3/28 and the C99 still has not corrected herself.

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• BakedARea
• Mar 31, 2022

This was her this morning...after another small drench yesterday. A little perkier but barely. I'm concerned.

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• BakedARea
• Apr 2, 2022

The rest of the tent this morning. Yesterday, they all got a small drench of only water just to moisten the top layer. Some of them were still too dry in the deeper root zones. As a reminder, I use long bamboo BBQ skewers for moisture observations.

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• Apr 2, 2022

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• Apr 2, 2022

If you made it this far down, thank you. I appreciate your time and following along my journey.

Tomorrow is topdress day. Going to manage that later this evening. I was hoping to get them flipped soon. Until I see happy plants, it's not happening! My only goal is to see them happy. I will be slowly decreasing their DLI until flip day. Or should I flip then suddenly from 21/3 to 12/12?

Here is the tent environment for the past week.

The dips down in temps are between 7pm - 10pm during lights out. I have the exhaust fan set to turn on at 80°. It is maxed out at 50% at the moment. A/C unit kicks on at 84° since the exhaust fan can't keep up. The ambient air temps in the garage are starting to climb. So begins my struggles with ambient temps again. Trying to do this with minimal energy used. More adjustments needed!

I'm planning on moving my fan output to 75% and move my fan target temp down to 75°. AC units stay at 84°.

What or how would you do?!

 

[Stunger]

A quick look at the male Cinderella 99 a couple days ago. Since then, I have seen a couple pods fall but they aren't opened. Almost like they dried too much on the branch. I gave him a decent drink yesterday to perk him up. Today, I'm going to go with @Stunger 's process of cutting off the branches of pods and let them finish that way. Going to do that a few times and hopefully collect something that way.

When I recently collected pollen I waited until the first lot of pods opened. But I would imagine that if you chopped some off and first let them dry, then break them up in a sieve, then many would break open and release their pollen.

Giving them a few hours of direct sun every day. I overly drenched them a few days ago and you wouldn't even know it by looking at them. The power of the sun...it is simply better! I'm getting really excited about getting these plants ready for the outdoor garden. I've been slowly prepping the beds for the past month. Outdoor garden journal starting soon.

Sounds great!

What or how would you do?!

I am sorry I really don't know, but I will be interested in any suggestions you get. I haven't personally been using mycos which I now plan to get for my next grow, but I see you have the Dynomyco sticker on the tent wall so your plants are presumably not short of that. Hoping you get an answer BA.

 

[InTheShed]

I'm not an organic soil grower but here are my two cents:

Are you not watering to runoff because you think they were transplanted too recently to use it? If that's not it I would skip the yucca and drench them like it was pouring rain. It's not as if rain comes down like a spray bottle with surfactant in it, so why would plants expect that?

I'd also skip the SNS for the next few weeks. Eliminate variables that way.

Or should I flip then suddenly from 21/3 to 12/12?

Is there a specific reason to slow the process down and make flowering take longer?