Lovely update BA. I hope you can stabilise the grow environment going forward, and hopefully soon all fully back on course.
BakedARea's Cultivated Blessings: A Myriad Of Genetics & Shenanigans
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Thanks Stung. Trying. Just need to stay focused and diligent. I should be able to keep these things from happening.
My brain is always fried my friend. You know you can always message me!
Sending good juju
Sending good juju
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Thanks '82! I hope you're doing well amiga. The whole of ya. Blessings.My brain is always fried my friend. You know you can always message me!
Sending good juju
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Ok then! Got the cloning done. I'm giving the multi clone planting a try. I basically did the same thing as last time with the aloe and kelp extract soaking mix.
Oops...hit the publish button.
Aloe & Kelp Extract Soak (20-30 minutes)
Clone bouquet!
Watering in the media with some extra aloe blended water with some Earth Alive 'Soil Activator'.
Cannot say enough how amazing this stuff is! Thanks again @DYNOMYCO for this awesome prize package!
I added 1/2 teaspoon to each cup
Thanks for watching folks!
Oops...hit the publish button.
Aloe & Kelp Extract Soak (20-30 minutes)
Clone bouquet!
Watering in the media with some extra aloe blended water with some Earth Alive 'Soil Activator'.
Cannot say enough how amazing this stuff is! Thanks again @DYNOMYCO for this awesome prize package!
I added 1/2 teaspoon to each cup
Thanks for watching folks!
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Another pictorial update from this morning's check-in. The new clones are all standing tall and firm! Makes me happy to see this organic process consistently showing good results.
Main update is about the Candida!
Many many thanks again @InTheShed
You are a blessing dude.
I decided that the original clone from Shed, my current mother, is ready to finish her life.
She has given me clones and I just took more. I have been slowly shaping her the past week just to see...
and all I see is a future gorgeous blooming plant. She has been whispering into my ear for the past month that she's ready.
Seeing her future bud sites gets me excited. She will be transitioning to the outdoor garden. I don't have anywhere to flip her right now. Otherwise, I'd love to flip all of the plants in here. I'm itching for some flowers!
Looking down on her canopy, I can see quite a few more branches that need to be taken out.
The rest of the plants have been making a decent turnaround and this morning, they all appeared to be feeling better. I raised my @BESTVA LED Pro4000 about 4" to bring the PPFD back down to an average of 450-500. The Pro1000 on the right, was raised up as well and turned up to 100%. Giving the BG plants underneath that light getting 400 PPFD and the Candida getting the least at 250-300 PPFD. The back edges of her getting even less. She will have to deal with the 2 gallon pot until she's ready to spend the nights outside where I will get her into the garden bed.
Clearing out lower growth and using those for the clones.
Over the past week, after seeing others' posts about watering in soil (i.e. @Stunger ) I decided to increase their water intake. I have given them butt chugs a couple times and more often, given the worm castings mulch layer a decent drench to keep it moist. The most I have gone is 24hrs without water for the top rhizosphere to stay moist. It is paying dividends in my eyes. I know I'm an underwatering fool. I consistently underestimate their water need.
On a side note, the Space Queen's lower canopy has become a hot spot for the start of another thrip colony trying to get established. She will be getting some pruning and SNS217 treatments. The SNS209 will also continue.
Main update is about the Candida!
Many many thanks again @InTheShed
You are a blessing dude.
I decided that the original clone from Shed, my current mother, is ready to finish her life.
She has given me clones and I just took more. I have been slowly shaping her the past week just to see...
and all I see is a future gorgeous blooming plant. She has been whispering into my ear for the past month that she's ready.
Seeing her future bud sites gets me excited. She will be transitioning to the outdoor garden. I don't have anywhere to flip her right now. Otherwise, I'd love to flip all of the plants in here. I'm itching for some flowers!
Looking down on her canopy, I can see quite a few more branches that need to be taken out.
The rest of the plants have been making a decent turnaround and this morning, they all appeared to be feeling better. I raised my @BESTVA LED Pro4000 about 4" to bring the PPFD back down to an average of 450-500. The Pro1000 on the right, was raised up as well and turned up to 100%. Giving the BG plants underneath that light getting 400 PPFD and the Candida getting the least at 250-300 PPFD. The back edges of her getting even less. She will have to deal with the 2 gallon pot until she's ready to spend the nights outside where I will get her into the garden bed.
Clearing out lower growth and using those for the clones.
Over the past week, after seeing others' posts about watering in soil (i.e. @Stunger ) I decided to increase their water intake. I have given them butt chugs a couple times and more often, given the worm castings mulch layer a decent drench to keep it moist. The most I have gone is 24hrs without water for the top rhizosphere to stay moist. It is paying dividends in my eyes. I know I'm an underwatering fool. I consistently underestimate their water need.
On a side note, the Space Queen's lower canopy has become a hot spot for the start of another thrip colony trying to get established. She will be getting some pruning and SNS217 treatments. The SNS209 will also continue.
She's going great BA. Excellent work getting the clones off her to continue her line, I look forward to seeing her flowering! So great that you were able to make use of her from Shed's previous curatorship!
My pots are heavily drilled out and I have measured the temperature of the stone tiles on the balcony which reached 50.5C or 122F, so I don't have much concern of overwatering. But I realise from past harvests that in hindsight, I effectively 'underwatered'. What I mean by that is, if the same quantity of water is given but poured on more quickly, it will tend to run off and run down channels in the soil which then upon harvest you may see that the root formation did not grow evenly, where there may be areas of soil in the pot that didn't have many roots working it because the water given tended to flow away from that area. So for my current grow I have been instead giving them their initial day's watering very very slowly initially to let it permeate and sink it, and I usually do so at least 2, or if not, 3 times over the day with the aim of trying to give moisture to all of the soil in the pots. Next year I may look to utilise a surfactant like Yucca to help with that, which sounds a good thing because if the pots are getting 'dry' areas then then that would be restricting potential growth.
I hope you have room for that Candida outside because it's going to be at least 4' wide and tall when you harvest in early October!
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Thanks! Yeah, it was a strong clone to start with. Handled everything I have done wrong like the champ she is. Going to give her some extra time to further recover and get her outside.
Precisely what I am doing. Keeping the soil at a more consistent moisture level, specifically the rhizosphere. I used to water too quickly before and would lose a lot to "
Plenty of space!!! She's going to need to be pruned though to keep her in control.
Looking good girlfriend!
Those plants are a beautiful colour
Those plants are a beautiful colour
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I was thinking...do you think she's ready to go out now?! I know it's early. Or keep her in momma mode for a while indoors and put her outside in late spring?
Moving plants from long inside light hours to much shorter outside light hours will send them into flower immediately. Then they will have to reveg before flowering again in late June. Certainly doable but not ideal.
As I mentioned to LED209 in my thread, you can move them as soon as the nighttime temps will stay in the mid-60s. But you should be running them inside at the same light/dark period it will be for that date to keep them from flowering early. If you wanted to find out the day/night hours for a specific date, you would find out here:
You can drag the date bar around to find your daylight hours for that date.
Since you are running longer light hours inside before you put them out, you would need to add the supplemental light outside to match what your timer was doing inside to keep them from flowering immediately.
As I mentioned to LED209 in my thread, you can move them as soon as the nighttime temps will stay in the mid-60s. But you should be running them inside at the same light/dark period it will be for that date to keep them from flowering early. If you wanted to find out the day/night hours for a specific date, you would find out here:
Sunrise and sunset times in Monterey
Calculations of sunrise and sunset in Monterey – California – USA for September 2024. Generic astronomy calculator to calculate times for sunrise, sunset, moonrise, moonset for many cities, with daylight saving time and time zones taken in account.
www.timeanddate.com
You can drag the date bar around to find your daylight hours for that date.
Since you are running longer light hours inside before you put them out, you would need to add the supplemental light outside to match what your timer was doing inside to keep them from flowering immediately.
LED209
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Yea shed just schooled me on this the other day. I just bought me a single panel LED stoplight from Home Depot to put on them when they go outside. I plan on keeping the same day/night schedule they are on now to try and mitigate as much stress as possible. So my lights will come on when it starts to get dark and run till about 11pm then on again at 5 am till sunrise. I’ve contemplated the night interruption technique with about 1.5 hours of light in the middle of their dark period to keep them in veg. It’s still to cold here at night. Temps hover around 47-52 at night. So they will prob get another month at least in the tent
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Yeah...I don't want to do that. I'm actually thinking of flipping the tent instead. A late night stoned thought last night.
Soooo, check this. I have kept the C99 male outside for the past week. It is now in full sun most of the day and stays outside for the evenings. Zero signs of cold stress! I honestly forgot to bring him in last week. After I saw him completely fine the next morning, I figured WTH, let's see what happens. My plan is to bring him back in anyway though since I don't want pollen flying everywhere. I'd rather have him in a controlled environment. Just thought I would share that insight of their cold tolerance. I do thinks different genetics will react differently though.
I appreciate the link! I've had that one bookmarked for a while. I knew our days aren't quite long enough yet. Just wasn't sure about if it would keep flowering or reveg. You answered that one. Thanks again!
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Been a crazy week. The plants got another decent drench yesterday. They are soaking up water fast and doing their best to battle the environmental failures on my part. They are looking decent but not wonderful.
The latest clones are doing so-so and the older clones seem to be plugging away just fine. I'll be transitioning them outdoors into the greenhouse soon with supplemental light to keep them vegging. That will give me space to flip the tent for flowering.
Yesterday - pre-drench
This morning - looking slightly happier
The latest clones are doing so-so and the older clones seem to be plugging away just fine. I'll be transitioning them outdoors into the greenhouse soon with supplemental light to keep them vegging. That will give me space to flip the tent for flowering.
Yesterday - pre-drench
This morning - looking slightly happier
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Hey everyone. Hope you're all doing well. I desperately needed to get some garden chores done. I couldn't put off transplanting any longer. Crossing my fingers and toes that I can manage to get some clones transplanted tomorrow. Couldn't quite get to those.
Here they are 3/19
Space Queen has been taken a beating. I pruned a lot of this off after the transplant today.
Today pre-transplant. They all got a chance to soak up some natural sun for a couple hours.
Please ignore the horrible mess behind them inside the greenhouse. It has been a snail's pace of getting tasks done lately. Glad I at least got started today. I cleared out a bunch of weeds and added some rocks to the left side. My desire would be to get rid of this tiny greenhouse. Then build a larger semi-permanent greenhouse. Until then, this will have to do until they are all ready for the outdoor garden. I will be keeping them small until then.
While they were outside, I mixed some of my @Sierra Natural Science SNS217 and every plant got sprayed on top and below the leaves for a complete treatment. It smells so good! I waited until the sun was off of them.
While I had some time for them to soak up the sun, I cleaned the inside of the tent! It was not fun, but it was needed. Feels good to know it got cleaned before going into flower. Simple green wipe down on the floor and walls. Followed up with an alcohol wipe down of the walls.
Then it was time for some more @420 Mag stickers!!
I followed up the cleaning with a spray barrier of permethrin.
Arthropods don't like the smell and it kills them if they linger for too long. I gave the bottom corners, duct openings, and windows. I sealed up the tent and headed outside to get the plants transplanted.
I had a few extra @ViparSpectra lights that I hadn't used since I put in the @BESTVA LED lights during the GSC Comparative Grow . I wanted to at least get the Vipar P2000 put in. So that's an extra 200W of light minimum. The other two lights are the P1500.
I took out one of the Bestva Pro1000 and added a P1500, giving me an extra 50W.
I'd like to add that the @ViparSpectra lights featured are not sponsored! A part of supporting our sponsors is buying their products! These are wonderful budget friendly lights. I really like being able to have individual lights. Freedom to adjust lights as needed for different plant needs. Eventually, I'd like to add a single light that could cover the entire tent from start to finish. It would force me to get better at canopy height management.
Onto the transplanting of the 76 day old ladies! Many thanks again to @GeoPot for sending me the kickass 7 gallon fabric pots! No doubt better than any other fabric pot I have ever used. Also, thanks for the recent 2 gallon prize pack! So stoked about those. About to use them tomorrow for the clones that will be vegging in those until final transplant for the outdoor garden.
Cinderella 99 - 1 gal to 7 gal @GeoPot - approx 5.5 gallons of soil
Rosetta Stone #1 - 1 gal to 7 gal @GeoPot - approx 5.5 gallons of soil
Rosetta Stone #2 - 1 gal to 5 gal fabric pot - approx 3.5 gallons of soil
Queen of Soul #1 - 1 gal to 1.5 cubic foot
Earth Box (Round 2)
Queen of Soul #3 - 1 gal to 5 gal fabric pot - approx 3.5 gallons of soil
Space Queen - 1 gal to 5 gal fabric pot - approx 3.5 gallons of soil
I purposely left space for the next few topdressings of @GeoFlora Nutrients . They were all due for their 2 week topdress AND transplanting 2 weeks ago! Glad I was finally able to get it done though. Another thanks to the GF team for this amazing nutrient line. I decided to keep the nutrients the same all the way through flower for this round.
I also included another dose of sponsor's product called 'Soil Activator' by Earth Alive products. It's amazing stuff and has a toasty coffee aroma!
Candida clone I was blessed to receive from @InTheShed ! She's at day 136 and went from her 2 gal fabric pot into the earth box. This is Round 2. It got amended with a dose of @GeoFlora Nutrients 'Veg' and then topdressed with an overdose of 'Bloom'. I'd like to point out that this box with thriving with worms in multiple stages of life. This box had not been watered since I harvested those tiny autos. It had a wonderful rich color with no foul smells, and still had moisture!
Last season, it only grew some teeny tiny autos. There should be a contest for worst plant of the month, I could have won that for sure!
If this plant takes a dive, then it will either be the quality of the soil, or my watering habits. The earth box was loaded with beneficial insects. Worms thriving...tells me the soil is balanced and healthy.
Just wanted to make sure I include a HUGE thanks to @DYNOMYCO for being an amazing sponsor here for this community.
Since being introduced to them during the GSC grow last year, I haven't used anything else.
Here they are again after a short rest of no lights for 3 hours. Tomorrow, they will get an extra 3 hours of light. Helps them produce extra energy to reduce transplant sadness. I set the lights to give the canopy a 650-700 average PPFD.
After the transplant, I watered them all in with some yucca extract, kelp extract, and @Sierra Natural Science SNS209 at 8mL/gal
The Candida is getting the back right corner of the tent to herself. She's also getting the @ViparSpectra P2000 all to herself. I have a lot of small branches left to cut off. I spread her out some more. Using some craft wire, created hooks for the branches and then hooked to the trunk nodes.
After they recover, then the lights will be flipped to flower to a 7am ON and 7pm OFF cycle. I will utilizing my peak solar production during those times. Should be enough to not pull any extra from the electric grid!
Thanks for swinging by folks. I appreciate you all, members and sponsors alike. Thanks for helping me grow these amazing plants!
Here they are 3/19
Space Queen has been taken a beating. I pruned a lot of this off after the transplant today.
Today pre-transplant. They all got a chance to soak up some natural sun for a couple hours.
Please ignore the horrible mess behind them inside the greenhouse. It has been a snail's pace of getting tasks done lately. Glad I at least got started today. I cleared out a bunch of weeds and added some rocks to the left side. My desire would be to get rid of this tiny greenhouse. Then build a larger semi-permanent greenhouse. Until then, this will have to do until they are all ready for the outdoor garden. I will be keeping them small until then.
While they were outside, I mixed some of my @Sierra Natural Science SNS217 and every plant got sprayed on top and below the leaves for a complete treatment. It smells so good! I waited until the sun was off of them.
While I had some time for them to soak up the sun, I cleaned the inside of the tent! It was not fun, but it was needed. Feels good to know it got cleaned before going into flower. Simple green wipe down on the floor and walls. Followed up with an alcohol wipe down of the walls.
Then it was time for some more @420 Mag stickers!!
I followed up the cleaning with a spray barrier of permethrin.
Arthropods don't like the smell and it kills them if they linger for too long. I gave the bottom corners, duct openings, and windows. I sealed up the tent and headed outside to get the plants transplanted.
I had a few extra @ViparSpectra lights that I hadn't used since I put in the @BESTVA LED lights during the GSC Comparative Grow . I wanted to at least get the Vipar P2000 put in. So that's an extra 200W of light minimum. The other two lights are the P1500.
I took out one of the Bestva Pro1000 and added a P1500, giving me an extra 50W.
I'd like to add that the @ViparSpectra lights featured are not sponsored! A part of supporting our sponsors is buying their products! These are wonderful budget friendly lights. I really like being able to have individual lights. Freedom to adjust lights as needed for different plant needs. Eventually, I'd like to add a single light that could cover the entire tent from start to finish. It would force me to get better at canopy height management.
Onto the transplanting of the 76 day old ladies! Many thanks again to @GeoPot for sending me the kickass 7 gallon fabric pots! No doubt better than any other fabric pot I have ever used. Also, thanks for the recent 2 gallon prize pack! So stoked about those. About to use them tomorrow for the clones that will be vegging in those until final transplant for the outdoor garden.
Cinderella 99 - 1 gal to 7 gal @GeoPot - approx 5.5 gallons of soil
Rosetta Stone #1 - 1 gal to 7 gal @GeoPot - approx 5.5 gallons of soil
Rosetta Stone #2 - 1 gal to 5 gal fabric pot - approx 3.5 gallons of soil
Queen of Soul #1 - 1 gal to 1.5 cubic foot
Earth Box (Round 2)
Queen of Soul #3 - 1 gal to 5 gal fabric pot - approx 3.5 gallons of soil
Space Queen - 1 gal to 5 gal fabric pot - approx 3.5 gallons of soil
I purposely left space for the next few topdressings of @GeoFlora Nutrients . They were all due for their 2 week topdress AND transplanting 2 weeks ago! Glad I was finally able to get it done though. Another thanks to the GF team for this amazing nutrient line. I decided to keep the nutrients the same all the way through flower for this round.
I also included another dose of sponsor's product called 'Soil Activator' by Earth Alive products. It's amazing stuff and has a toasty coffee aroma!
Candida clone I was blessed to receive from @InTheShed ! She's at day 136 and went from her 2 gal fabric pot into the earth box. This is Round 2. It got amended with a dose of @GeoFlora Nutrients 'Veg' and then topdressed with an overdose of 'Bloom'. I'd like to point out that this box with thriving with worms in multiple stages of life. This box had not been watered since I harvested those tiny autos. It had a wonderful rich color with no foul smells, and still had moisture!
Last season, it only grew some teeny tiny autos. There should be a contest for worst plant of the month, I could have won that for sure!
If this plant takes a dive, then it will either be the quality of the soil, or my watering habits. The earth box was loaded with beneficial insects. Worms thriving...tells me the soil is balanced and healthy.
Just wanted to make sure I include a HUGE thanks to @DYNOMYCO for being an amazing sponsor here for this community.
Since being introduced to them during the GSC grow last year, I haven't used anything else.
Here they are again after a short rest of no lights for 3 hours. Tomorrow, they will get an extra 3 hours of light. Helps them produce extra energy to reduce transplant sadness. I set the lights to give the canopy a 650-700 average PPFD.
After the transplant, I watered them all in with some yucca extract, kelp extract, and @Sierra Natural Science SNS209 at 8mL/gal
The Candida is getting the back right corner of the tent to herself. She's also getting the @ViparSpectra P2000 all to herself. I have a lot of small branches left to cut off. I spread her out some more. Using some craft wire, created hooks for the branches and then hooked to the trunk nodes.
After they recover, then the lights will be flipped to flower to a 7am ON and 7pm OFF cycle. I will utilizing my peak solar production during those times. Should be enough to not pull any extra from the electric grid!
Thanks for swinging by folks. I appreciate you all, members and sponsors alike. Thanks for helping me grow these amazing plants!
Beautiful update BA! A serious collection of lights you have there, looks like your tent is going to be comprehensively lit! Plants are all coming along nicely. We don't get the Sierra product here when I last looked, I guess it smells of rosemary as read that is one of their ingredients, or perhaps there is something else aromatic in the mix. Cheers.
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Hey Stung! I'll be swinging by your journal shortly. I appreciate your words and reading along. The plants seemed to have taken the transplant without too much drama. A little droopy but not too bad. I was planning on giving them another spray drench again later today. Slowly increasing the container moisture content versus completely getting them soaked at the get go.
I wish you guys could get the SNS stuff. It's wonderful stuff! It was the first time trying the SNS217 for me. It is a 10% concentration of the rosemary. Most of the rest is water and a few other ingredients. I'm not sure if anything else changed the aroma of it. It's a distinct aroma of rosemary and...chemicals?!
I don't know...but it smells good.
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A quick update on the clones and their first night outside. It was a drastic difference between the comfort of the tent and getting some crisp spring air throughout the night.
Last night under the supplemental light. It is just a led shop light. Nothing fancy.
Here they are this morning. Perky and ready to get potted up.
A look into the past 24 hrs from the sensor I have in the greenhouse. It only matters from where the temp spikes up, that's when the sensor came from inside to the greenhouse.
Now the RH...the doors did get closed up after nightfall. Need to keep dogs and any curios critters out.
Here is an update on the Cinderella 99 male. He's putting out some plump pollen sacs! I'm not quite sure how much longer before they start opening up though. I have about 5 nodes x2 with clumps of sacs like this.
I'm keeping him outside for now, but he goes back inside as soon as they start to open. Anyone out there that would like to take a guess at how much longer before I can start collecting pollen?
Last night under the supplemental light. It is just a led shop light. Nothing fancy.
Here they are this morning. Perky and ready to get potted up.
A look into the past 24 hrs from the sensor I have in the greenhouse. It only matters from where the temp spikes up, that's when the sensor came from inside to the greenhouse.
Now the RH...the doors did get closed up after nightfall. Need to keep dogs and any curios critters out.
Here is an update on the Cinderella 99 male. He's putting out some plump pollen sacs! I'm not quite sure how much longer before they start opening up though. I have about 5 nodes x2 with clumps of sacs like this.
I'm keeping him outside for now, but he goes back inside as soon as they start to open. Anyone out there that would like to take a guess at how much longer before I can start collecting pollen?
Good work on the clones BA, it's always heartening to wake up and see what you did the previous day is looking good.
For collecting pollen which I've done on my current grow. I separated the male so I could wait for the first pollen balls to mature and begin to open, then the collection method that seemed easiest for me was to cut off some of the pollen ball stems and let them dry over some baking paper before putting them in a sieve to let the pollen fall through and catching it.
For collecting pollen which I've done on my current grow. I separated the male so I could wait for the first pollen balls to mature and begin to open, then the collection method that seemed easiest for me was to cut off some of the pollen ball stems and let them dry over some baking paper before putting them in a sieve to let the pollen fall through and catching it.