I don't, sorry.
What? No way. White flies are so easy to get rid of. Take it outside and spray with water it from below. Done and done.
Heh. I reject your assertion. Here’s why. I just found out for sure that’s what it was. Sure enough for me. I have zero doubts in my ability to independently research and separate bullshit from fact. Especially when I’m pissed and ultra razor focused on a specific goal. So all day I’ve been doing my level research offsite. That includes many visits to many sites both pot and plant (non pot) related. Many. Plus every growers forum you ever heard of. Plus every type and various wording of every incantation of words to get different results. Plus asking a bunch of questions in forums I join for one question then quit. (Heh. I don’t care. Screw them. I believe in loyalty and the best and I have it. Let the second and third tier growers have their sites.). But it’s easy to identify any potential good grower if you look at enough pictures and easy enough to ask a question to someone. Rarely does someone blow off a nicely worded and please help with a question request. It also includes a very lengthy narrowing down of photos project until I narrow it down to the maybe this and then research the shit out of all potential candidates. With pot, sometimes all that isn’t even enough. But in this case:
1. They are most definitely whiteflies. Specifically they are the most common and the hardest to get rid of type: the greenhouse whitefly. They hang out primary under the leaves and lay their eggs. Which then hatch and after a brief crawl the sucking begins and there you go.
2. The most involved process to get rid of them i found involves 8 steps, including Neem as one. Also hose vacuuming, mild dish soaps with water, etc etc.
3. Once you reach the point of infestation only a chemical cure of shit that kills pot would effectively rid them. This is why that is true: there are live adults flying around. There are eggs and nymphs on the underside. And there are larvae in the soil. It is almost impossible to cover all those bases (once infestation is reached) effectively in the lifespan of a pot plant.
4. Mine are past the point of infestation, it was just invisible three days ago. Now, every single leaf on the plant, and I mean every single one no matter where it is, (was), is almost entirely covered with eggs. Hundreds on each leaf. The eggs of this particular species are not as “on top of” the undersides, they are more like “in” the undersides. They lay them inside and you see the bulge. Little tiny spots. Atop each egg on the other side the leaves are just beginning to turn. When you slap the buds around a cloud of tiny white flies emerge and scatter. This girl has 40 days left. There was no way to rid them on all fronts in that time span at this point in flower when most of the 8 steps are anti bud steps, including Neem.
The greenhouse whitefly has a reputation as one of the worst pot pests and hardest to get rid of that exist.
All that said, if you get them in veg or before infestation point, it’s 1000x easier. Neem alone in veg or soapy dish soap and water spray takes care of it. Just gotta repeat a lot for two or three weeks to prevent differing times the eggs were laid and prevent stuff from emerging. And also Shed, in that scenario, what you said is 100% true. It’s just (and of course you and I didn’t know this) mine is already too late given the necessary steps and time left along with the level of infestation. And even if I could, the potential danger to the 9 plant tent is too great. The flies live a long time for flies - up to 40 days or more depending on environment. This is another contributing factor in why they are so hard to lose. And you can’t spray the burrowed eggs off with a hose.
Anyway, I learned a lot about these guys, and they’re bad. I chose to cut bait when I saw what had happened in just a few days since I thought we were clear. Between that and the proximity to the big tent, I chopped her.
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Also, thank you
@InTheShed, I appreciate you having my back even in those extremely rare times I disagree with you.
