Amy Gardner Of Eden: Perpetually Organic

Plants all look great, Amy, and nice work on the new grow space! :high-five:

As far as lighting schedules go, the only thing you really need to be careful of is to try to not interrupt the dark period during flower. Vegging plants are extremely forgiving and, as long as they have long days, you can change schedules pretty much anytime. It's the flowering girls that really need their beauty sleep. ;)
 
Hi Amy! Awesome update. Your nw grow box is awesome! :bravo: Your plants are also gorgeous as usual. :green_heart:
 
InTheShed said:
Interesting...both of my flowering plants have gone from smelly to stealth over the last few days.
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I've been noticing that too. I think it indicates it's time or near time to me. It happens when the tops are done and I want to go another week for the lowers to catch up I'm pretty sure.
 
:ciao: Been a hot minute since I stopped by it’s crazy how fast time can fly! Beautiful garden and awesome setup! I hope you’re feeling a lil better and taking rests when ya need them. I hope you have a great and relaxing rest of your day!
:peace::love::Namaste:
 
Very nice grow box you put together, Amy!
Amy Gardner said:
Here’s how it looks when closed at the moment with only one piece of corflute - not a grow box but a glow box!
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That panel would look cool painted like a cannabis themed stained glass window....wouldn't help with the "stealth" aspect,though ;)
 
Mr. Krip said:
Plants all look great, Amy, and nice work on the new grow space! :high-five:
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Thanks Krip! :high-five: ANd thanks for dropping by, i appreciate it... and the input :thumb:
I am not around here as much and have so many journals to catch up on... I expect i will be cruising into one of yours soon :)
BooWho2 said:
nw grow box is awesome! :bravo: Your plants are also gorgeous as usual. :green_heart:
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Thanks Boo! It’s made things very much easier for me :green_heart:
InTheShed said:
...both of my flowering plants have gone from smelly to stealth over the last few days.
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stoneotter said:
I've been noticing that too. I think it indicates it's time or near time to me. It happens when the tops are done and I want to go another week for the lowers to catch up I'm pretty sure.
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It’s definitely a thing. Conradino harvests based purely on tracking the changing smells.
candycane said:
Beautiful garden and awesome setup! I hope you’re feeling a lil better and taking rests when ya need them. I hope you have a great and relaxing rest of your day!
:peace::love::Namaste:
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Thanks candy - I am. Having a fatigue condition and bi-polar can interract in the most problematic ways sometimes ... wiped out and manic = Very challenging! I thanks the heavens for cannabis regularly for so many different reasons!
I hope the same for you - good rests and symptom relief :love:
carcass said:
Very nice grow box you put together, Amy!
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:thumb: Thanks! :D I’m thrilled with it.
carcass said:
panel would look cool painted like a cannabis themed stained glass window....wouldn't help with the "stealth" aspect,though ;)
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I have thought something similar! Not he stained glass effect tho - that would be super cool. I thought a photograph mounted onto it would give a groovy light box kind of effect, except the stripes from the panel could kill the effect a bit. I may put a nice image on it at some stage but I think i will have to stick with black panel outside to keep the light down... especially now with lights on overnight. Just about every bug in the forest is on my window some nights! :laughtwo:
kelticBlue said:
very welcome news
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kelticBlue said:
stopped by for the critters and leave saying that Panama tho.
Keep on rockin on.
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:thanks: :Namaste: always nice to have you drop by keltic
 
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I’m going to check these out-thanks Sy! That would be maybe simpler... could check it without even getting up! Excellent...
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syenite said:
Loving this Amy. I'm definitely going to have to try this for any "sativa" leaners I want to gamble on growing in my micro (nano?) spaces. :thumb:

Panama :slide:
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:high-five: I watched @Graytail do it for sometime with great success so have been on a mission to try it for a while. The stretchier sativas will be trickier but I plan to keep em in small pots as long as possible to helpkeep them contained. 3gal max size for finish - in organic soil. Gray’s journals are worth checking for some great examples of his ‘3gal wonders’ - if I have a chance I will try to dig up some of his images....
 
Amy Gardner said:
Conradino harvests based purely on tracking the changing smells.
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That's curious, Conradinos is a place on my list of places to go and stay for awhile. Thanks for that!
 
Amy Gardner said:
harvests based purely on tracking the changing smells.
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Indeed a smell change in the harvest window. I think it is a last gasp begging for pollen. I dunno.
I also note that If I harvest with intent to re veg or just partial harvest, that which I leave behind takes a turn in smell like maybe a defense mechanism.
I just did a partial harvest this morning, it went from sweet to sour within an hour of chop. Interesting stuff.
 
OOOF!
The flower tent has had a small explosion of gnats (since the SB came out - not that I think they’re connected - but...). Overnight I caught about 20 On some fresh sticky traps. NOt outrageous but a lot and many more than I’ve had all year (often one or two here n ther).

And the Panama upper fanleaves have gone completely necrotic and show signs of advanced potassium and manganese deficiencies. They are pretty much dead leaves so I’ll pull them off and get some pics. Obviously its been coming but these leaves went south pretty much overnight. They were fading a bit, and then...

Panama still has plenty white pistils so I hope it gets a move on and finishes. I gave it a seaweed fert yesterday. It didn’t want all the water it usually gets which could mean it;s slowing down or that the gnats are causing some issues. A bit hard to tell. I watered it from the bottom becasue i had sprinkled DE on top.

So, on DE (Diatomaceous Earth). I have never used it before. I understand from some reading that I sprinkle a layer on the surface and keep it dry.

I see some folks around here talk about mixing it into their soil etc. ANd other recommendations to also lib=ne the base of a pot with it.

So, does that work? Because most of what I read bout using it says that one it gets wet it isn’t useful for the gnats anymore.

So there are some contradictions in what I have found out about using it. Not unusual (the contradictions), I’m just curious what folks who do use it have to say about how to ...

FYI - I have perlite/vermiculite on the way for putting on the surface of my pots and I always keep a mosquito dunk (containing BTi) in my 25L water reservoir in my room so I have ongoing gnat mitigation practices - they just got away on me! Maybe the dunk in the res ran out... better check!

And i will inspect the necrotic leaves to see if i have some other issue... :hmmmm:

Suddenly a busy morning :eek: Better make coffee first!
 
I hope you sort the leaves out soon! DE absolutely does not work when it's wet, which makes if form a cake. It's the individual diatoms with the knife-like edges that shreds the exoskeleton of the bugs and dehydrates them, so it does need to be kept dry.
 
InTheShed said:
I hope you sort the leaves out soon! DE absolutely does not work when it's wet, which makes if form a cake. It's the individual diatoms with the knife-like edges that shreds the exoskeleton of the bugs and dehydrates them, so it does need to be kept dry.
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Hmmm. I've been mixing my DE into the soil, which I know for a fact has gnats. So far I have never seen more than 1 or 2 adults, and only very occasionally at that.

While the point about it only being effective when dry may be true, I wonder if it still works better when it's mixed throughout the soil. As the soil dries out in the wet-dry cycle, that would mean the DE in those regions would also become active in this sense, right?

Put differently, surely it's more effective to have the DE mixed throughout the soil, rather than having a layer above and a layer below? The latter would also increase the risk of a cake forming?
 
My feeling is that if you put it on top when the surface is dry it spends a lot more time slicing bugs than the few hours the soil is dry enough to make it effective during the wet-dry cycle.

For the larvae, mosquito dunks are much more effective.
 
The DE gives silica dose to your soil so it’s good to mix in, but I don’t think it has kill properties as much when mixed in soil, but IDK. As you know the sharp edges cut their exoskeleton. Trouble is most of us probably use food grade DE which is tumbled anyway which rounds off the microscopic sharp edges. Yes as far as top dress - it is ineffective when wet. I know Sulfur is a deterrent for mites but think it also deters fungus gnats from landing in the first place. I grind up mosquito dunks and mix in top inch of soil, plus I use dunks in water buckets too. If the outbreak is bad then I revert to bottom water only for a while to let top of soil dry out & put sticky traps right on top of soil too plus over canopy.

I keep a fan blowing at soil level and I mix a small dose of Neem & dishwashing liquid to hit the top of soil, buggers can’t fly after getting oil on their wings. i Just recovered the top of my soil with perlite and dusted again with sulfur -hope I’m done with this latest round. Gnats could be living in old containers, heck I found some worked there way into my secondary fridge via a bad spot in door gasket, plus the drip pan under fridge had a hoochie mama gnat bordella going on.
 
I have read that it is more that the DE absorbs/affects their waxy coating and dehydrates them that way rather than the slicing thing, which may a bit of a myth but i will need to investigate that a bit more :nerd-with-glasses:


My leaf issue may be septoria... investigating and removing affected leaves. Will get some pics later - meeting with OT this morning so plants will have to wait!
 
The BTi is your best weapon Amy. DE in the soil really doesn’t deter them at all, it’s been a component of my soil for years and I still get the little buggers. And as a top dress, as mentioned, once wet, doesn’t affect them any more.

I had a severe bout of gnats and thrips last indoor grow, my own fault, I flooded the tent. To combat and rid myself of them, I used BTi as both foliar spray and soil drench and also used nematodes. It took one treatment of nematodes and daily BTi treatments for about 10 days to rid my grow of the buggers, but they were thick.
 
The Celt said:
The BTi is your best weapon Amy. DE in the soil really doesn’t deter them at all, it’s been a component of my soil for years and I still get the little buggers. And as a top dress, as mentioned, once wet, doesn’t affect them any more.

I had a severe bout of gnats and thrips last indoor grow, my own fault, I flooded the tent. To combat and rid myself of them, I used BTi as both foliar spray and soil drench and also used nematodes. It took one treatment of nematodes and daily BTi treatments for about 10 days to rid my grow of the buggers, but they were thick.
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What is BTi, Celt?
 
Amy Gardner said:
My leaf issue may be septoria... investigating and removing affected leaves.
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Hi Amy. Really sorry to hear about your potential septoria. I had something in that family create havoc on my big outdoor Cinderella. working with @MrSauga I decided to spray them with H2O2, and I also added M
a Biofungicide/bactericide Disease Control Product to its feeding. It seemed to stop the issue from getting worse very quickly. The leaves were pretty fugly by the time it stopped, but oh well. I hope you get things figured out and turned around soon! :goodluck:
 
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