Amy Gardner Of Eden: Perpetually Organic

[Amy Gardner]

I'd give it another week .

Me too Sometimes “needs must”

That could be one of the causes

Also, root aphids . I am fairly sure. I’ve seen it once before - the leaves doing the super-fast turn to nasty and the plant suddenly seeming to stop progressing - but didn’t want to say anything until I’d checked, trying not to be an alarmist but I registered that it was similar so I’m pleased about that. I’ll try to photograph but I should just be binning it really - don’t want to mess w’ it

All ok regardless! I harvested, soil is quarantined and no sign of them in any other pot. Phewf! So far (I’ll root inspect tonight when lights come on, I couldn’t see anything at the soil surface On any remaking pot.

I hope they didn’t come out of that super-soil as that’s only the first plant to finish in it, I have a couple more to go... Will need to do some more reading about them - I know there’s no point treating that soil though - it’s going.

Never a dull moment! Panama is spectacular with muted pine and a sweet lavender. I toked on Sour Bubba for the harvest - good pain relief, focus, enjoyment and not at all stoney... until about 2-3 hours later when I felt like a nap and had one. Until then it was more cerebral with just a hint of mind expansion. Nice.

 

[InTheShed]

I’ll root inspect

Rootopsy!

I felt like a nap and had one

 

[kelticBlue]

root apheckerids, binning is best. Sound plan. So happy about the Panama harvest !! Sour bubba sounds great.
Enjoy

 

[Amy Gardner]

Thanks keltic I’m certainly enjoying the harvests!

Pest events are so labour intensive... identifying, looking, researching, photographing, root autopsying... and that’s all before you even know what you’re dealing with then you have to do something about it! I come up against my physical limits here very quickly.

Don’t want to root autopsy anywhere near our gardens and I can’t physically ‘travel‘ very far, so that’s problem number one regarding the possibility of a rootopsy... but i do want to. Lovely other will be called to the rescue to help me get down the driveway a bit and pull it apart (my powered chair is coming - but it’s months months away...)

WHen I read descriptions about root aphids and their effects it seems that’s what i have. No photo i can find really looks like what i am seeing and have seen tho. That happened last time I had them and i wonder if it’s a species thing - sme variation. Or it isn’t root aphids at all.

I pulled the CBD#1 rootball out of its pot last night and couldn’t see any sign of anything moving. I did see a few areas of browning on the roots tho so I’m not convinced there’s nothing there and i couldnt look for very long - I get exhausted in about 2minutes...

It’s times like this that growing with such severe limitations starts to feel like it maybe just isn’t doable. I like the alternative a lot less tho’, so I know I’ll figure it something out!

Meanwhile, i can do nothing now in the middle of the night... oh, oops! ...545am (I’ve been reading about root aphids for hours it seems!) ... so I’m diving into harvest photos!

 

[Amy Gardner]

Sour Bubba - Harvest photo dump!

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Preparing: Sour Bubba’s cousin Bubba Hash in the pipe!

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Harvest prep!

Let there be sunlight...

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Beautiful black leaves - except where shaded.

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Foxy in the morning light

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Sun kissed trichomes

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Minimal skeletal remains...

I was in love with its black leaves!

I was too wiped to get any other post harvest pics I tried some closeups but it was so windy they are simply crap - so the skeleton will have to suffice as ‘proof of death’.

Speaking of the skeleton, usually when you take the bamboo stakes out a plant flops over. This one sprang up!

Nearly ready to weigh... just in jars and hitting the 65-70% range.

Many thanks to the canna gods and goddesses and to you lot as well... keeping the Gardner on the tracks!

 

[syenite]

Good luck with the diagnosis/autopsy, Amy! Hope you get to the bottom of it soon.

And congratulations on the Sour Bubba!



Beautiful photos as always.

LOVE looking at the skeleton. Did you quad her but then not allow any secondary branching off the main branches?

 

[Amy Gardner]

I used a method similar to quadding but faster - called ‘Uncle Ben’s Topping’ method. I did a write up on it that I’ll link back to at some point (unless ‘someone beats me to it ). You let the plant grow to 4-6nodes and then chop it back to 2, letting the 4 branches of those 2 nodes come up. It makes 4 main colas. ANd I left some secondary branching - which you can see in the whole plabt shots (the second tier of buds). It involves much less work and time than ‘quadlining’. There’s no extra pruning (I will of coursed remove the odd fan leaf - usually the inward pointing ones), just that one topping and then spread out the 4 main stems as much or as little as you like. Letting The plant get to 4-6 nodes ensures a fairly mature plant with a good, well-developed root ball.

Back to pest related investigations, I have today (well, wee hours of this morning actually) discovered the Bug Lady (real name Suzanne Wainwright-Evans)

She recently co-authored this paper on rice root aphids in cannabis (with a dude called Whitney Cranshaw). Excellent read!

Cannabis sativa as a Host of Rice Root Aphid (Hemiptera: Aphididae) in North America

Abstract. Rice root aphid, Rhopalosiphum rufiabdominale (Sasaki), is a cosmopolitan species widespread in North America. Most records of this insect are of

academic.oup.com

 

[Amy Gardner]

I am equipped with camera-fitted-with-macro-lens and heading out to dissect the Panama rootball - hoping to find nothing!

 

[syenite]

You let the plant grow to 4-6nodes and then chop it back to 2, letting the 4 branches of those 2 nodes come up. It makes 4 main colas. ANd I left some secondary branching - which you can see in the whole plabt shots (the second tier of buds). It involves much less work and time than ‘quadlining’. There’s no extra pruning (I will of coursed remove the odd fan leaf - usually the inward pointing ones), just that one topping and then spread out the 4 main stems as much or as little as you like. Letting The plant get to 4-6 nodes ensures a fairly mature plant with a good, well-developed root ball.

Your description is exactly what I thought quadlining was. Oops, maybe I need to go review. Appreciate you taking the time to write this out, thank you.

Good luck with the macro!

 

[Amy Gardner]

Another article by the other author - links to that paper I linked as well.

Rice Root Aphid: An Insect Surprise on Indoor-Grown Cannabis

A widespread pest known best for infesting grain crops, the rice root aphid has emerged as a leading pest of indoor-grown cannabis crops.

entomologytoday.org

That first photo - I just photographed a lot of ‘things‘ that look just like that ...

he writes:
For years, there has been a lot of internet chatter about “root aphids” on cannabis, most all of which contained serious error. Postings typically used borrowed images and incorrect biology information, typically drawing from totally different root-infesting species, such as grape phylloxera or various Pemphigus species. Our goal, with this paper, is to correctly set the record of “root aphid” issues on C. sativa so that integrated pest management programs can be appropriately developed.


I’ll post my pics later - but that article leaves me in little doubt unfortunately. I didn’t see any crawling form root aphids but the root ball was extremely poor, thin and loose and we have hopefully some pics of eggs to examine.

 

[dynamo1]

Beautiful harvest, gorgeous plant

 

[Amy Gardner]

Damn ambiguity - still going through the pics. The lovely other leans very much towards the ‘not root aphids’ side of possibility. That’s helping. Many things point to it but the shape of the body is fairly different... again, more later.

I’m enjoying getting harvest pics of Panama ready to upload as a nice diversion from thinking about bugs. I had na excellent bath, too, so I don’t feel covered in creepy crawlies anymore. Phewf!

Beautiful harvest, gorgeous plant

Thanks dynamo! There’s some really nice aromas developing as it starts to cure.

I was actually just admiring this pic - which I shared Earlier already but I zoomed in a lot further and it really shows the lovely colours that came out in the buds towards the end (very similar to the way the Bubba Hash did).

... Plus the frosty frostiness!

Sour Bubba​

 

[Amy Gardner]

Harvest Photo-drop: Panama! ​

I would have given it another week...
Even so I’m pretty happy I’ve waited on dropping this seed for 2 years, so - it’s a holy grail in terms of my ‘desire to sample’. I do think it’s highlarious that my first pure sativa has come down a little early, c’est la vie right . I estimate it is about a 60/30/10 split between cloudy, clear and amber. I can live with that!

The top cola was (is) soooo heavy it was doing the most fantastic swaying from side to side - practically a 3’ swing!

I think it qualifies as quite a stupendous @DonkeyDick if ever there was one - whadd’ya say Donk? Do I make the cut?

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It was damn windy again so there’s a little motion blur I think...

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It was a gorgeous day for harvesting. Warm and windy and dry (down to 37%), so that big phhhaaat central cola got plenty of warm dry air through it after washing.

I managed some post-wash pics this time (smaller harvest) while the buds were catching their last ever rays of sun. They went into the shade after about 2-3 hours of sun and stayed there the rest of the day.

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The smells were amazing during harvest. The lovely other (was helping again ) took a sniff and got a glint in the eye like I don’t see very often and said, “wow, that’s taking me right back to about 1982 ”. Very promising!

Today I noticed that, from up really close, the ‘burnt rubber’ terpene is making an appearance. Still some pine, lavender and sweetness like before (something a bit floral that I just can’t place) but the burnt rubber tyres smell is definitely in there. It’s fairly muted (and mixed with the anise kind of tone, actually) which I’m happy about because I grew something else that had the burnt rubber thing going full-on and it didn’t suit me at all (headaches etc.) so I hope this version stays a bit softer the way it is now. Time will tell.

I will probably snip the top cola buds off the stem sooner rather than later because it’s so fat and heavy! I don’t want to lose it to mould. (Wow, my arm got so tired washing it!)

And while I still don’t have any nice hi-res pics of my critters, I captured our new resident wallaby on my iPhone the other day - munching out on the banana peel they love so much. Honestly, they bliss out while eating it, they must get something from it. It comes to the ‘usual’ spot looking for it now...

*So this is not a kangaroo... it’s a swamp wallaby (with very damaged ears - stoopid humans and their fences ).

That’s one big difference between swamp wallabies and kangaroos (and some other wallabies actually), that they use their paws to eat - like a possum or a squirrel does. Kangaroos don’t do that!

I’m feeling better about maybe not having root aphids - really couldn’t see anything other than gnat larvae in the soil so maybe it’s just my BTi running out in the res and those li’l fookers getting a hold. I’ve still tossed the soil, just in case and because I dont know for sure yet. But I’m carrying on as if I don’t have that problem and will deal differently if it turns out that I do.

I’ll make the post about the it in my predators of Eden thread - seeing as I made that for the dual purpose of posting nice beneficial insect photos and identifying and distinguishing them from pests! I’ll link here when I get that together.

Slightly nervous about the potential raciness of this Panama with the clear trichs and white pistil hairs still in there, but it is what it is and I will simply have to approach with some caution. I chose it because it is not known for being a heart-rate elevating sativa and also because of it’s CBG content (which could be part of why it is gentle). Well and, actually, because I saw it in Graytail’s and neikodog’s gardens and fell in love with it! So while slightly apprehensive, I’m pretty excited to try it.

And I have CBD on hand for any ‘oops! too much!’ moments.

I’ll be off now - that was a bit chatty for a photo-drop Hope everyone is safe and well adjusted with whatever adjustments you fancy. I’ve been experimenting with THCa recently... more on that down the track, still ‘reading’ it.

But this afternoon... it’s THC for me!

 

[InTheShed]

That's a beautiful plant with the black leaves and the white frost. Nice harvest! Oh wait, you posted another harvest! Black leaves = Sour Bubba. Lemme look at the Panama...

Whoa that is definitely in the donkey category and I'm sure DD will assent. Well done and an excellent way to cross a must-grow off your list. And having some CBD handy in case of raciness is just one of the reasons to have a pure CBD strain on hand.

on the harvests. Nice swamp wallaby too!

unless ‘someone beats me to it

called ‘Uncle Ben’s Topping’ method

Below in reply to sy...

I am equipped with camera-fitted-with-macro-lens and heading out to dissect the Panama rootball - hoping to find nothing!

Fewer bugs, fewer baths needed! Good to hear you are leaning toward the not-root-aphids side of the house.

Your description is exactly what I thought quadlining was. Oops, maybe I need to go review. Appreciate you taking the time to write this out, thank you.

Here you go!

I had na excellent bath, too, so I don’t feel covered in creepy crawlies anymore. Phewf!

Phewf!

Plus the frosty frostiness!

Very frosty frostiness!

 

[Amy Gardner]

on the harvests.

Phewf!

IKR!

Here you go!

I knew you would! I would have waited a week, LOL!

Whoa that is definitely in the donkey category

Why thank you!

Nice swamp wallaby too!

IKR! Seriously tho, I’ll let her know - pretty sure it’s a she. We think it might have been the mate to the old fella who used to pretty much live here - there’s also a spritely yuonhgster who makes an appearance occasionally that we have decided must be their offspring. They’re mostly solitary critters and quite territorial.

just one of the reasons to have a pure CBD strain on hand.

many possible phewf!s

frostiness

FTW!

 

[StoneOtter]

Congratulations on the beautiful sour bubba harvest Amy! Mother nature rules!

 

[The Celt]

Beautiful bud Amy, excellent harvest pics

 

[StoneOtter]

And the Panama! Missed it for a minute. That one is going to be fun to combust and see!

 

[Agemon]

Nice pipe!

 

[PGA Caddie]

Awesome updates Amy. Hope your feeling well...