That's one beautiful pie crust! Nice and neat and even, just like the WW canopy. Excellent 
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Amy Gardner Of Eden: Forest Adventures With Doc Bud’s HBB
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exactly what we were discussing as we did it!
Beauty job on the training!
You know I would clip that leaf
I clipped nasty leaves on my outdoor girls all season. They loved it
You know I would clip that leaf
I clipped nasty leaves on my outdoor girls all season. They loved it
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Update: Critical Mass - day 72(??)
The reason I put ?? there is because I think this one has revegged. It started shooting pisitls out the tops way early, within days of the solstice and at the time I wondered why. Maybe stress (heat) and some dark stormy days too.
So I’m keen to see if others also think it looks like its revegged a bit. Ive never seen it happen in person before. Still has pistils everywhere, so i’m not sure. The growth structure changed and there’s some weird and stunted leaf shapes, very thin leaf fingers and some 3bladed leaves here n there.
PLUS... I did the totally non optimum thing of planting it in the raised bed very soon after adding the amendments so it’s likely the weirdness is a response to that, too. I am curious what is actually going on, so please share if you have thoughts or knowledge (The ammendment activity should have settled now, it’s more than 2 weeks since).
Regardless, it’s going and growing quite well and I hope an expect it will do its thing. I will now simply drop a photo dump from over the last week. Kind of the same angles a few times to show how the growth is taking off and how i’m trying to hold it down and shape it...
I’m not sure when to stop tying down and let it go vertical because I don’t actually know if it’s been in proper flower all this time or not
oh well... it’s all fun and games while I learn.
There has been super hot weather, and a snap cold night or 2. Drenches were given in the aftermath of rain and some Brix as well
5 days in the life of Critical Mass...
Wednesday
Thursday
Friday evening - when I realised i’d better contain things a little
Saturday morning early
Hopefully there’s enough in those pics for those who know to tell me if its revegged, or tried to, or if the slight mutations are from the sub-optimal transplant time. And to reassure me that it’s recovering and going to do it’s flowering thing just fine
I’ll be back in a while with the skinny on CD-1. I have to get out there and see if the raised bed needs a soaking - it’s a hot day gearing up.
The reason I put ?? there is because I think this one has revegged. It started shooting pisitls out the tops way early, within days of the solstice and at the time I wondered why. Maybe stress (heat) and some dark stormy days too.
So I’m keen to see if others also think it looks like its revegged a bit. Ive never seen it happen in person before. Still has pistils everywhere, so i’m not sure. The growth structure changed and there’s some weird and stunted leaf shapes, very thin leaf fingers and some 3bladed leaves here n there.
PLUS... I did the totally non optimum thing of planting it in the raised bed very soon after adding the amendments so it’s likely the weirdness is a response to that, too. I am curious what is actually going on, so please share if you have thoughts or knowledge
(The ammendment activity should have settled now, it’s more than 2 weeks since).Regardless, it’s going and growing quite well and I hope an expect it will do its thing. I will now simply drop a photo dump from over the last week. Kind of the same angles a few times to show how the growth is taking off and how i’m trying to hold it down and shape it...
I’m not sure when to stop tying down and let it go vertical because I don’t actually know if it’s been in proper flower all this time or not
oh well... it’s all fun and games while I learn.There has been super hot weather, and a snap cold night or 2. Drenches were given in the aftermath of rain and some Brix as well
5 days in the life of Critical Mass...
Wednesday
Thursday
Friday evening - when I realised i’d better contain things a little
Saturday morning early
Hopefully there’s enough in those pics for those who know to tell me if its revegged, or tried to, or if the slight mutations are from the sub-optimal transplant time. And to reassure me that it’s recovering and going to do it’s flowering thing just fine
I’ll be back in a while with the skinny on CD-1. I have to get out there and see if the raised bed needs a soaking - it’s a hot day gearing up.
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clipped nasty leaves on my outdoor girls all season. They loved it
snip snip!
I didn't have anything go into flower outside before the solstice so I'm thinking it might have been confused by the dark days, though it should take quite a few in a row to get it to send out pistils. I've had autos go into flower from heat stress though.
Either way, those early pistils look like they're drying out and it should begin showing a new set sometime in the next 2-3 weeks I would think.
Looks like a grapevine!
Either way, those early pistils look like they're drying out and it should begin showing a new set sometime in the next 2-3 weeks I would think.
Looks like a grapevine!
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Update: Candida CD-1 - day 68
Transplanted it into the raised bed back on the 12 Jan (Same day as the WW transplant - there was help around
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Transplant day
Lesson is learned about these long square 1gal pots outside! Not only do they pose challenges with heat and rain outside, but they’re too too deep for transplanting into the ground. One has to dig a damn deep hole... especially i you want to bury the stem at all - which I did both times. I did the Critical Mass on my own and it wrecked me for a few days so I was quick to jump at the chance when a buddy was here recently to partake in some heavenly delights from the garden. HE did all the digging for me
You’ll see in a tick how well she is faring in her new home. I wanted to take this little tangent however...
Some of you will remember that she has been a bit droopy at times, and I know @newty had this as well and the breeder says it may need support too. Other growers have had none of this so maybe its a phenotype thing, or maybe its environments, or gnats (which is possible). But! I am sure I’ve noticed that it’s more prone to do it in the heat.
It’s a funny kind of droop. Most of the plant seems fine, perky even. It just “lets go” of the structural integrity at the leaves just under some tips, or the top. Here is a great example. This was first thing one morning while it was still in the 1gal, in the early morning light. It was gearing up for a fairly hot day so there was already plenty of heat in the sun. Notice how the centre of the growth tip is still upright, and the leaves below are perfectly happy too.
So that was happening a lot when she was young, on the main top and some of the nodal branching tips as well, then it wasn’t so bad for a while - almost stopped. Now I seem to notice it when it’s particularly hot, especially, maybe, when it’s hot first thing in the morning. Doesn’t seem to be hindering her at all though - it’s just an interesting habit and I’m curious if newty’s was anything like this or different, and either way it’s worth watching
Pics below show how variable this is - (now you see it, now you don’t)
I’ll do a similar photo dump of the last week like I’ve done won’t the others. It’s fun to see how much happens in a few days at this stage. I don’t know if you can tell, but from the 1st to the last pic its put on nearly 3 inches in height.
The only “tech” I am using is the gentle ‘leanback’ method I’ve picked up from @LED209 with my personal tweak addded that, if I go out in the evening, I let the main stem loose to grow straight up over night, which it loves to do it seems. Then I cinch it back to the bamboo in the early mornings to open the whole plant up to the angle of the sun. This makes it create quite a robust “skirt” - as we will all hopefully observe over the coming months. It is leant back in some of these pics and not in others
These last two are from yesterday and you can really see that things are filling out a lot. Sometime soon I’ll get a friend in there to add some stakes in preparation for some lanky sativa flowers.
This morning i went out and put the hose on a slow drip and I’ll move it around today to get a good soaking going on. We dont expect rain for a while and its fairly dry so i’ll “Chase” the soak with a 1/4 trans water sometime in the next few days.
Here’s both of them in the harsh morning light (a droopy wake-up for CD-1... like me, really)
So, I captured this little love the other day. I havent had a chance to check up on it, but it’s feathery feelers make me think it’s some kind of tiny wasp, so likely a predator. There’s a gnat-like wasp that actually feeds on fungus gnats that is native to here... I wonder if it’s one of those. If I manage to find out I’ll report back. Pretty one...
As pretty as it is, insects in the garden don’t always make the ‘critter of the week’ cut. Often they are superceded by less ubiquitous visitors.
I aim to visit the garden fairly early each day. Every morning for about a month I was hearing shuffling in the scrub to the west of the enclosure where we have been, over time, building a long narrow hill from bush scrub debris and leaves and there’s some concrete and other things underneath in its substructure - a kind of heugel culture wall (it’s called something like that - i’ll check). So I finally saw what it is. Some of you will already know we have dragons here and I’m very happy to say that they have taken up residence in our hill! I hear, and sometimes see, this one perched on top of it nearly every morning now, hunting and sunning itself. They catch and eat spiders too, for you folks who think we have too many creepy crawlies! 
We have dragons to keep us safe!!
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I have to get outside and move the hose! I’ll correct any typos later
Transplanted it into the raised bed back on the 12 Jan (Same day as the WW transplant - there was help around
)Transplant day
Lesson is learned about these long square 1gal pots outside! Not only do they pose challenges with heat and rain outside, but they’re too too deep for transplanting into the ground. One has to dig a damn deep hole... especially i you want to bury the stem at all - which I did both times. I did the Critical Mass on my own and it wrecked me for a few days so I was quick to jump at the chance when a buddy was here recently to partake in some heavenly delights from the garden. HE did all the digging for me
You’ll see in a tick how well she is faring in her new home. I wanted to take this little tangent however...
Some of you will remember that she has been a bit droopy at times, and I know @newty had this as well and the breeder says it may need support too. Other growers have had none of this so maybe its a phenotype thing, or maybe its environments, or gnats (which is possible). But! I am sure I’ve noticed that it’s more prone to do it in the heat.
It’s a funny kind of droop. Most of the plant seems fine, perky even. It just “lets go” of the structural integrity at the leaves just under some tips, or the top. Here is a great example. This was first thing one morning while it was still in the 1gal, in the early morning light. It was gearing up for a fairly hot day so there was already plenty of heat in the sun. Notice how the centre of the growth tip is still upright, and the leaves below are perfectly happy too.
So that was happening a lot when she was young, on the main top and some of the nodal branching tips as well, then it wasn’t so bad for a while - almost stopped. Now I seem to notice it when it’s particularly hot, especially, maybe, when it’s hot first thing in the morning. Doesn’t seem to be hindering her at all though - it’s just an interesting habit and I’m curious if newty’s was anything like this or different, and either way it’s worth watching
Pics below show how variable this is - (now you see it, now you don’t)I’ll do a similar photo dump of the last week like I’ve done won’t the others. It’s fun to see how much happens in a few days at this stage. I don’t know if you can tell, but from the 1st to the last pic its put on nearly 3 inches in height.
The only “tech” I am using is the gentle ‘leanback’ method I’ve picked up from @LED209
with my personal tweak addded that, if I go out in the evening, I let the main stem loose to grow straight up over night, which it loves to do it seems. Then I cinch it back to the bamboo in the early mornings to open the whole plant up to the angle of the sun. This makes it create quite a robust “skirt” - as we will all hopefully observe over the coming months. It is leant back in some of these pics and not in others These last two are from yesterday and you can really see that things are filling out a lot. Sometime soon I’ll get a friend in there to add some stakes in preparation for some lanky sativa flowers.
This morning i went out and put the hose on a slow drip and I’ll move it around today to get a good soaking going on. We dont expect rain for a while and its fairly dry so i’ll “Chase” the soak with a 1/4 trans water sometime in the next few days.
Here’s both of them in the harsh morning light (a droopy wake-up for CD-1... like me, really)
So, I captured this little love the other day. I havent had a chance to check up on it, but it’s feathery feelers make me think it’s some kind of tiny wasp, so likely a predator. There’s a gnat-like wasp that actually feeds on fungus gnats that is native to here... I wonder if it’s one of those. If I manage to find out I’ll report back. Pretty one...
As pretty as it is, insects in the garden don’t always make the ‘critter of the week’ cut. Often they are superceded by less ubiquitous visitors.
I aim to visit the garden fairly early each day. Every morning for about a month I was hearing shuffling in the scrub to the west of the enclosure where we have been, over time, building a long narrow hill from bush scrub debris and leaves and there’s some concrete and other things underneath in its substructure - a kind of heugel culture wall (it’s called something like that - i’ll check). So I finally saw what it is. Some of you will already know we have dragons here
and I’m very happy to say that they have taken up residence in our hill! I hear, and sometimes see, this one perched on top of it nearly every morning now, hunting and sunning itself. They catch and eat spiders too, for you folks who think we have too many creepy crawlies! We have dragons to keep us safe!!View media item 1645831
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I have to get outside and move the hose! I’ll correct any typos later
dynamo1
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No matter what he has his eye on you
Candida is filling out really nicely so that lean technique works well! Those feathery feelers are wild, and you have your own issue of National Geographic every single week. Great photographs .
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Your plants are humming right along! That water dragon is beautiful!
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He really did! In the first one he was kind of coming at me! I stopped bothering him after that...No matter what he has his eye on you
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Well, it was after solstice - but only about a weeek. ANd there probably was dark days for a while so maybe it’s just triggered more easily than the others. We may never really know...
That’s been happening a bit for a little while. ON the WW too and a tiny bit on the CD-1. I wondered if it was part of the Ca deprivation, or just heat stress maybe. Maybe someone will chime in if thye’ve seen it before. There has been some hot hot days, over 35ºC. They ya get intermittent direct sun and dappled shade throught the afternoon though so they get some respite. I put ice cubes on the soil too, for the pots...
It’s over 1m wide now - and it even looks like i could pull the ends down another time
Beautiful updates today
My Candida was very floppy but also healthy looking by this stage so I’d say very similar. She was topped and trained so that’s the only difference
My Candida was very floppy but also healthy looking by this stage so I’d say very similar. She was topped and trained so that’s the only difference
Hiya AmyG,
Your ladies are really looking nice! I love your outdoor garden space. Just outside the door, conveniently located, and stocked with necessary plants.
Are you doing DBHBB in the soil? I remember you were asking about that quite awhile ago. I was interested in that also, back when I still had money, lol.
Great pic of the water dragon. He'll be a nice addition around for bug control. Cheers
Your ladies are really looking nice! I love your outdoor garden space. Just outside the door, conveniently located, and stocked with necessary plants.
Are you doing DBHBB in the soil? I remember you were asking about that quite awhile ago. I was interested in that also, back when I still had money, lol.
Great pic of the water dragon. He'll be a nice addition around for bug control. Cheers
Creepy hairy looking things...…...dragons (is that like 121 cm?) that look like they could eat you and plants, beautiful plants. What I would give for the chance to grow just two plants outside where they would be full sunlight all day. I have a lot of trees so I have nice shade in the summer. I usually have a couple autos that I run late spring through early summer. I carry them outside each afternoon for five or six hours and then take them back and put them into their tent for the rest of their lighted period. You appear to have a fantastic layout and area in which to grow. And it looks like you've got everything under control. Last summer one of my plants (Critical from RQS) that started to show pre-flowers about 3 weeks before her outdoors mate did. The Critical was early for sure. I thought it odd. She finished fine though in the end.
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Yes! It’ll take a few seasons to get it humming, but the soil in that raised bed was tested for me by Doc and I had custom ammendment made for it. This season might be a bit rough as things settle in but should be super great regardless if how things seem now are an indication. I’m using the kit soil in the pots.
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@beez0404 Thanks for posting that! That’s fantastic to see. ANd there are some of those funky 3blades on there as well so perhaps there’s a genetic component to that occurrence. I thought there was a critical group grow somewhere around 420, but i looked and didnt find anything.
cheers beez
cheers beez
Kismet
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Outdoor plants look great and are really starting to kick in gear Amy. Love being able to see them outdoors thriving living vicariously through you at the moment dark days of winter here 
. Love the water dragon wish i had some in my garden on pest control. Looks like it could eat just about anything smaller than itself 
. Love the water dragon wish i had some in my garden on pest control. Looks like it could eat just about anything smaller than itself Hiya AmyG,
I started an outside plot a couple years age. I amended it with Doc's mineral mix (nothing like growing in his kit soil) and soil did very well last year. This year I'm using Emmie's lactobacillus serum and nutes it will produce. Trying to figure this stuff out is a fun part of the challenge of growing.
Looks like you're on your way to some top shelf smoke. Cheers!
I started an outside plot a couple years age. I amended it with Doc's mineral mix (nothing like growing in his kit soil) and soil did very well last year. This year I'm using Emmie's lactobacillus serum and nutes it will produce. Trying to figure this stuff out is a fun part of the challenge of growing.
Looks like you're on your way to some top shelf smoke. Cheers!
kelticBlue
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love, love, the pics in the morning light
he is goorrrgeous, and he knows it.