Aberration Goes Ker Bloom! - Perpetual

[Aberration]

==> Fog for bugs

All Veg

In hot water:
-Mix (2) gallons.
-Per gallon:
4 t Notrozyme
1 T Ful-power
2 t yucca
4 t Azadirachtin 1.2%
pH target: 6.40 (±.03) Actual: 6.42 @ 35.4 C
2 t Spinosad 0.5%

Well, at least I got that done.

 

[MSquared]

Hey Abe! Yeah looks like you checked off another "todo"! hope all is well and how are the veg ladies coming that are going to fill the flower spots?

 

[Aberration]

The veg plants are doing great. I'll be putting them in very soon.

---

So today I had a very bad scare.

A friend who was a legal medical grower got raided today. He was over his numbers on plants. He didn't get arrested, but he's probably going to have to face some music over it.

When he let me know he said that the police were asking about me too. I wasn't worried because I stay within my legal limits most of the time and when I go over it's rarely by much, but when I counted in my head I found I was a bit over my numbers in veg too. Then I panicked. I was stuck at work for over 2 hours wondering if the police would already be at my house when I got home.

They weren't. I quickly destroyed 2 large veg plants and 3 small ones. I was about to dismember a large plant I really didn't want to lose when I was saved by the (door) bell. You might remember that I recently said I was expecting to pick up another patient's grow card? The patient showed up at my doorstep. The friend that got raided was his grower, and he came to me to see if we could do the transition immediately. Of course I jumped at the chance, because it was going to save some very nice plants.

Whew!

So now I have a signed and dated statement from the new patient indicating he is transferring his grow to me. That should protect me until he completes the official transfer paperwork (he has 30 days to submit it by law). It also means that even if you count un-rooted clones I am now fully within my limit of 12 bloom and 36 veg.

I'm still trying to calm down. That's too much excitement for me. Time for a doobie.

 

[Aberration]

I removed BBX.4F, AH1.0A, BD.7F, BBX.5D, MTP.4C, MTP.4E. Not cool.

The remaining middle veg was moved to mature veg.

==> Bloom - Pre-feed flush:

MTP.3D (38/63 days) : 0.50 gal
MTP.3E (38/63 days) : 0.50 gal

-Mix (1) gallon
-Per gallon:
1 T liquid steamed bone meal
1 T Yucca
pH target: 6.20 (±.10) Actual: 6.20 @ 20.3 C
1 t blackstrap molasses

==> Bloom - Feed:

MTP.3D : 1.25 gal
MTP.3E : 1.25 gal

-Mix (3) gallons - MID
-Per gallon:
2 T liquid steamed bone meal
2 T Biggest Bloom
2 t PGE
1 t Silica Blast
1 t Cal-Mag
1 T Yucca
2 t Notrozyme
2 t Organic Supplement
2 t Soil Nute
--- t Big Foot (ord)
1 t Calcium Syrup
1/2 t Carbon sweet
2 T Amino Blast
1/2 t TM-7
Natural @ 1080 ppm
pH target: 6.40 (±.10) Actual: 6.17 @ 20.4 C
1/2 t Companion

==> Mature Veg:

BBX.4C : 1.00 gal ea
TDR.1B

GKA.1B : 0.50 gal ea
SLH.1A
WW.0A

SLH.1D : 0.25 gal ea
AH1.0B
QLR.0A, QLR.0B
L.6A, L.6D

BD.7C, BD.7J : water to saturation
CH.1A, CH.1B

-Mix (6) gallons
-Per gallon:
1 T Pure Blend Pro Grow
1 t Cal-Mag
1 T Yucca
--- t Big Foot (ord)
--- t TM-7
Natural @ 820 ppm
pH target: 6.20 (±.10) Actual: 6.18 @ 20.7 C
1/2 t Companion

==> Early Veg:

TDR.2C : water to saturation
BBX.5A, BBX.5B
MTP.4A, MTP.4D
SLH.2B, SLH.2E

-Mix (1) gallon
-Per gallon:
1 t Pure Blend Pro Grow
1 t Cal-Mag
1 T Yucca
--- t Big Foot (ord)
--- t TM-7
Natural @ 490 ppm
pH target: 6.20 (±.10) Actual: 6.28 @ 20.3 C
1/2 t Companion

I will survive. And I will be much more vigilant about my numbers from now on.

 

[darkpiece]

Yikes

I, and I am sure many others here, have had a scares like that - that end up in complete destruction of the plant material.

No doubt one of the worst feelings you could have, sitting at work and all the uncertainty running through your head. How much work did you get done in that 2 hr period? lol

Truly a shame that with the cultivation of this plant, comes the lingering paranoia and stress of 'what happens if I get caught?'. And the fact the government, with no hesitation, will group you in with murderers, thieves and other hardened criminals, solely for its cultivation.

Extremely happy for you that everything worked out ok.

 

[MSquared]

Hey Abe Sorry to read of your heart stopping scare At least now you are in complete compliance with the law! I feel for you, but now it should be full steam ahead

 

[Aberration]

Thanks for the support guys. I'm glad to be back in the comfy zone again.

No doubt one of the worst feelings you could have, sitting at work and all the uncertainty running through your head. How much work did you get done in that 2 hr period? lol

Oh, I didn't get much of anything done. Between the hard ball in my chest and the nausea I could barely think, and my job is a thinking job. It's definitely a strong reminder to stay within my numbers going forward, no doubt.

Edit: Hey look! My post count just went all Atari on me! (2600)

 

[MSquared]

I loved my old 2600. My friend would get so mad at his console he would hit it and it would eject the game cart accross the room (his parents had money) or he would break the joystick and just get another out of a box. too funny

 

[Tricks]

The veg plants are doing great. I'll be putting them in very soon.

---

So today I had a very bad scare.

A friend who was a legal medical grower got raided today. He was over his numbers on plants. He didn't get arrested, but he's probably going to have to face some music over it.

When he let me know he said that the police were asking about me too. I wasn't worried because I stay within my legal limits most of the time and when I go over it's rarely by much, but when I counted in my head I found I was a bit over my numbers in veg too. Then I panicked. I was stuck at work for over 2 hours wondering if the police would already be at my house when I got home.

They weren't. I quickly destroyed 2 large veg plants and 3 small ones. I was about to dismember a large plant I really didn't want to lose when I was saved by the (door) bell. You might remember that I recently said I was expecting to pick up another patient's grow card? The patient showed up at my doorstep. The friend that got raided was his grower, and he came to me to see if we could do the transition immediately. Of course I jumped at the chance, because it was going to save some very nice plants.

Whew!

So now I have a signed and dated statement from the new patient indicating he is transferring his grow to me. That should protect me until he completes the official transfer paperwork (he has 30 days to submit it by law). It also means that even if you count un-rooted clones I am now fully within my limit of 12 bloom and 36 veg.

I'm still trying to calm down. That's too much excitement for me. Time for a doobie.

Very scary!! any idea how they got their information..the police?

 

[Aberration]

Somebody we all know around here I am sure. But who? No idea. All it takes is someone with a grudge or who is in trouble, and they can drag you down with them, even if you are trying to be legal. I guess the moral of the story is RULE #1 - Don't tell anyone. People that don't know you grow have a much smaller chance of getting you into trouble.

 

[donpaul.p]

it is the harsh truth, anyone could be reading any of these journals and if your not using a proxy server then your easy fish to trace, dont take an expert more than a few clicks to find out where your posting messages and pictures from, im always warry and dont post any info from where my grow is and if you wanted to be extra secure use a decent program to bounce your ip address round a few different countries, even then you are never 100% safe but it does take them a hell of a lot longer to find, we could all be been monitored and i would hate to think anyone on this site is dropping anyone in it, where all here for the same thing and thats to grow meds as far as i see it none of us are master criminals making thousands of pounds selling what we grow, we all here doing what we love to get the meds we need to make our lives that much easier,

 

[Aberration]

Oh, I know. I use Tor. You have to be careful.

 

[Aberration]

Right. So the person who was going to help me get back on track with my cloning was the one that got raided. He's not big on coming over right now, understandably, until he know where his legal status ends up. So I went to him.

I got the routine he uses, and I have modified it very slightly, incorporating my procedural methods. Then I went home and did it. I took 12 clones. Four each of White Widow, Grape Kool-Aid, and Arjan's Haze #1. I didn't take a huge lot of photos. Just some to illustrate specific things. I need a third hand for the camera.

Disclaimer and warning: I'm not a pro. I used a similar method in the past with great success but it isn't working well now. I am trying a reset of my procedures. We will see if it works well. Also I may get rather wordy. Sorry.

So I'll start with what I used:

The orange stuff in the little 3oz plastic cup is the Rootech gel. It is supposed to be on it's side. I'll get to that. Also that's a used razor blade. I didn't want to take out a new clean one just for a photo.

I use Rootech rooting hormone gel. I am also using GH RapidStart. Store both in the fridge. There is a pair of clean Fiskars sewing scissors. Great for trimming buds. I'll use them to trim leaves on my cuttings. Bottom right are craft sticks, popularly referred to as popsicle sticks. You can get like 100 for $1.00 or something like that at a lot of $1 stores. I buy single-edged razor blades at HD in packs of 100.

Cleanliness is very useful when cloning. Until they have a working vascular system that includes roots they are vulnerable to attack and every cut is a potential point of entry. I use a new razor for all the cuttings from a single plant, but never for another plant. That way if by chance one of my girls gets a virus, I don't pass it to the next plant by reusing a razor. It also has the side effect of preventing it from being used for more than a few cuts. I would prefer to use a new blade for every cut, but that would get really expensive.

Never dip directly into the container the gel comes in. You introduce contaminants that way. I use the craft sticks like butter knives to scoop some of the rooting gel from the container and put it in the 3oz cup. I use a clean stick every time. They are that cheap. I use the stick to place the gel in a line from top edge to bottom. It makes it easier to get it on the sides of the stem, and the gel won't really slump out. I stays put pretty well. Just remember not to set the cup down upright but always on the side, so the gel won't slide to the bottom of the cup.

I mixed up 1 gallon of aged/bubbled water from my res with 1 teaspoon of the RapidStart and 1 teaspoon of Hygrozyme (not shown). I pH'ed it to a target of 5.9 (actual: 5.90 @ 20.9). I put some of this into a clean glazed ceramic mug. Any clean cup will work.

One other bit of prep: I opened a fresh new Rapid Rooter tray with coco plugs. I put all but 12 of the plugs in a gallon freezer ziploc bag. They'll keep for later in the back of the fridge. I took the remaining 12 plugs and reamed each with the little screwdriver I use for this. It's an adjusting screwdriver for a ppm meter I usually buy so I have like 3 of them, but you could use a chopstick instead. The point is to prevent bent stems by reaming the existing hole a little bigger and a little longer. Not much. Just enough to prevent the stem from getting hung up. I forget to ream them now and then, and I always end up jamming and bending the stem. Now we are ready.

Using a new razor blade, I cut bits off of a healthy plant. I want branch ends, not too spindly. I cut about 5" off and immediately put the cutting into the mug I filled earlier. I get all the cuttings from one plant, then let them sit in the mug for about 10 minutes.

Then I put them into plugs. First I took a plug and plunged it into the rest of that gallon I mixed up. I did a gentle squeeze and release a couple times to soak it up and then squeezed most of the liquid out. I left them still quite moist, but not drippy. Maybe half wrung out I guess.

One at a time I took each cutting out of the mug and quickly stripped all but the top two open leaves off the stem with the razor. Then i made a new cut, preferably through the center of a node, leaving about a 4" cutting. I immediately put the cut end into the gel for a second, then abraded the stem near the end with the razor. Not too much, but it's an underlayer that produces callus and root so exposing a bit more to the rooting hormone is good. Then back in the gel, this time rolled up the stem:

Never mind the droopy leaves - I had gotten that cutting wet already. Normally I would keep the leaves dry. Once the end is coated in gel, I gently inserted it into one of the plugs. I'm trying not to remove any more gel than I have to. Afterwards, there is a good gap all around the stem:

So I pinch off a bit from the outer edge of the plug:

And stick it in the hole beside the stem. I pick the side that will help stand the cutting up straighter. In this next pic, I circled the bit I crammed in - you can see it just inside the red line:

I then cut off about half the length of each finger on each leaf with the Fiskars. I also made sure I cut the leaf opening up at the tip. Don't cut the tip itself (apical meristem) or the cutting will fail, but I like to nip a little off the leaf. That way when I see a little leaf unfolding later and there's nothing missing I know it has actually grown and is nearly ready. The idea is that the plant will not do much above the surface until it has had a chance to get callus and minimal roots going. If you see growth, we have success below. Usually anyway.

Next, I plunged the entire plug and plant into the remainder of the gallon I mixed up. I don't want to squeeze and release this time because I want the gel to stay where it is and not get washed out (thus the reason I soaked the plug before putting the cutting in). I hold the entire cutting under the surface for about 10 seconds, then take it out and shake the water off gently.

Then I place them in the tray. I like to avoid the outside edge spots in the tray because the leaves that are stuck touching the dome wall will mold and die:

Mist the inside of the dome lightly with distilled water. Put the dome on and keep them in the upper 70's and humid inside. Close the vents. You should always see a little condensation on the inside of the dome at this stage. After a week or two I should see the stem thicken where it goes into the plug. When I see this, they need to come out of the dome into the open air, but slowly in stages. First just open the vent some, then after a few days all the way, then take the dome off a few days after that. All this time they get weak light. The idea is to slow down respiration until the roots are established. When the plugs get dry-ish and start to lighten up in color (almost brown-paper-bag color) I will use the remainder of that gallon to water them, using a turkey baster.

So that's what I did this time. In a week to three they should have roots coming out of the plug. Hopefully in two weeks or less. I guess I'll find out soon enough.

 

[Aberration]

==> Bloom - Pre-feed flush:

MTP.3D (41/63 days) : 0.50 gal
MTP.3E (41/63 days) : 0.50 gal

-Mix (1) gallon
-Per gallon:
1 T liquid steamed bone meal
1 T Yucca
pH target: 6.20 (±.10) Actual: 6.24 @ 21.2 C
1 t blackstrap molasses

==> Bloom - Feed:

MTP.3D : 1.25 gal
MTP.3E : 1.25 gal

-Mix (3) gallons - MID
-Per gallon:
2 T liquid steamed bone meal
2 T Biggest Bloom
2 t PGE
1 t Silica Blast
1 t Cal-Mag
1 T Yucca
2 t Notrozyme
2 t Organic Supplement
2 t Soil Nute
--- t Big Foot (ord)
1 t Calcium Syrup
1/2 t Carbon sweet
2 T Amino Blast
1/2 t TM-7
Natural @ 1080 ppm
pH target: 6.20 (±.10) Actual: 6.26 @ 21.2 C
1/2 t Companion

==> Mature Veg:

BBX.4C : 1.00 gal ea
TDR.1B

GKA.1B : 0.50 gal ea
SLH.1A
WW.0A

SLH.1D : 0.25 gal ea
AH1.0B
QLR.0A, QLR.0B
L.6A, L.6D

BD.7C, BD.7J : water to saturation
CH.1A, CH.1B

-Mix (6) gallons
-Per gallon:
1 T Pure Blend Pro Grow
1 t Cal-Mag
1 T Yucca
--- t Big Foot (ord)
--- t TM-7
Natural @ 790 ppm
pH target: 6.20 (±.10) Actual: 6.26 @ 21.2 C
1/2 t Companion

 

[Aberration]

 

[donpaul.p]

their some nice looking ladys you got their,

some very nice looking buds,

 

[Dumpy]

Nice. You are certainly a master of your craft.

 

[Aberration]

their some nice looking ladys you got their,

some very nice looking buds,

They are doing OK. Those in bloom there are Matanuskan Thunderfu@k. Easy as pie to grow a lot of potent pot as long as you can put up with the floppyness. The stuff in veg is either really young or it already getting too big for veg. Yeah, the Matty sure is a nice plant.

Nice. You are certainly a master of your craft.

I dunno about that. I struggle. I forget. By and large they do come OK though. Thanks.

So I've been silent a few days. I've actually been busy in the garden. Two days ago, I transplanted GKA.1B, SLH.1A, WW.0A, and AH1.0B into 9 gallon pots. In order, that is Grape Kool-Aid, Super Lemon Haze, White Widow, and Arjan's Haze #1. Then I put all four, plus TDR.1B (Tangerine Dream) and BBX.4C (BigBud x BlueMagoo) into bloom. So now there are 8 bloomers going.

==> Transplanted (4):

GKA.1B : 1.00 gal ea
SLH.1A
WW.0A
AH1.0B
Transplanted to 9 gallon pots

-Mix (4) gallons.
-Per gallon:
2 T Organic Supplement
1 t Big Foot (1st)
2 t PGE
1 oz. Yucca
Natural @ 450 ppm
pH target: 6.20 (±.05) Actual: 6.21 @ 13.6 C
1/2 t Companion
1/2 T Myco powder
1 t Bt-i

==> Put into bloom

TDR.1B
SLH.1A
AH1.0B

BBX.4C
GKA.1B
WW.0A

Yesterday I fed all of the remaining mature veg:

==> Mature Veg:

SLH.1D : 0.25 gal ea
QLR.0A, QLR.0B
L.6A, L.6D

BD.7C, BD.7J : water to saturation
CH.1A, CH.1B

-Mix (2) gallons
-Per gallon:
1 T Pure Blend Pro Grow
1 t Cal-Mag
1 T Yucca
--- t Big Foot (ord)
--- t TM-7
Natural @ 850 ppm
pH target: 6.20 (±.10) Actual: 6.12 @ 17.6 C
1/2 t Companion

Then tonight I fed all 8 bloomers at once:

==> Bloom - Pre-feed flush:

MTP.3D (44/63 days) : 0.50 gal
MTP.3E (44/63 days) : 0.50 gal

TDR.1B (02/77 days ?) : 0.50 gal
SLH.1A (02/77 days ?) : 0.50 gal
AH1.0B (02/77 days ?) : 0.50 gal

BBX.4C (02/56 days) : 0.50 gal
GKA.1B (02/56 days ?) : 0.50 gal
WW.0A (02/56 days ?) : 0.50 gal

-Mix (4) gallons
-Per gallon:
1 T liquid steamed bone meal
1 T Yucca
pH target: 6.20 (±.10) Actual: 6.17 @ 17.8 C
1 t blackstrap molasses

==> Bloom - Feed:

MTP.3D : 1.50 gal
MTP.3E : 1.50 gal

-Mix (3) gallons - MID
-Per gallon:
2 T liquid steamed bone meal
2 T Biggest Bloom
2 t PGE
1 t Silica Blast
1 t Cal-Mag
1 T Yucca
2 t Notrozyme
2 t Organic Supplement
2 t Soil Nute
--- t Big Foot (ord)
1 t Calcium Syrup
1/2 t Carbon sweet
2 T Amino Blast
1/2 t TM-7
Natural @ 1050 ppm
pH target: 6.20 (±.10) Actual: 6.25 @ 17.8 C
1/2 t Companion

TDR.1B : 0.75 gal
SLH.1A : 0.75 gal
AH1.0B : 0.75 gal

BBX.4C : 0.75 gal
GKA.1B : 0.75 gal
WW.0A : 0.75 gal

-Mix (5) gallons - EARLY
-Per gallon:
1 T liquid steamed bone meal
1 T Biggest Bloom
1 t PGE
1 t Silica Blast
1 t Cal-Mag
1 T Yucca
2 t Notrozyme
2 t Organic Supplement
1 t Soil Nute
1 t Big Foot (2nd)
1 t Calcium Syrup
1/2 t Carbon sweet
1 T Amino Blast
1/2 t TM-7
Natural @ 740 ppm
pH target: 6.20 (±.10) Actual: 6.29 @ 17.9 C
1/2 t Companion

 

[CronicHempHog]

more weed porn..............

 

[Aberration]

A note about hermies and feminized seeds.

I believe that feminized seed should be no more likely to produce hermies that the parents were, since both parents are actually the same female plant. Here is why I believe that:

Here I will define selfing as the process of stressing a female plant to produce male flowers and using the resulting pollen to pollinate either the same plant, or a clone of it. The plant can be stressed by altering it's conditions drastically, or by treating it with one of various compounds that will produce a similar effect (like colloidal silver). This is the basic mechanism of making feminized seed, and as all such seed has exclusively female chromosomes, all the offspring should be female unless stressed. In genetics selfing means something different usually, but I need the term to shorten my prose.

It is an established principle that only genetic traits carry over to offspring. Acquired traits are not passed on. In school the classic example was that a man who loses an arm will not then have children with only one arm. Damage to the plant is not going to pass to the offspring. Stressing a plant until it hermies is not going to alter the genetics of the plant - it only forces some undifferentiated cells in the plant to react by maturing into male flowers instead of female. The cells' choice is driven by the balance of hormones.

As another example, I happen to know someone who is transgender. He became a her. He had hair on his chest until he had hormone injections, and then grew breasts. But that would not make her possible son more likely to spontaneously grow breasts, because her hormone injections will not alter her son's inherited genes one iota.

The same applies to hermies. The act of stressing a plant alters the hormonal balance, causing otherwise female flowers to develop as male instead. How can that alter the genes for the offspring however? How can the offspring help but express it's own genes? It will not express the parent's forced hormonal imbalance. I cannot see how the offspring of selfing could then possibly be more likely to hermie than the parent plant. I just don't see it.

Now that is mostly my opinion, layered on a basic understanding of genetics. I have heard opinions that say otherwise. I would love to hear the mechanism that allows the offspring to be more likely to hermie than the parent. I am not afraid to be wrong. I welcome the education it provides. As of yet, I have not heard a reasoned explanation, only assertions that I am incorrect.

Take it as you will. I am not a pro, etc, etc. Please speak up if you can explain it to me: Why do some people believe that feminized seed is more likely to hermie?