6-Day Sensitization Protocol: Resetting The Tolerance Levels

[Amy Gardner]

After I’ve had a bit more experience with it I may start a thread on intermittent fasting.

I’ve been meaning to suggest we do that since you started it! I might start to slowly collate some info for you...

So glad it’s going well for you.

I wish is didn’t struggle so much with this protocol, or knew why that happens. I think maybe there’s so much going on in my system that it’s really hard to listen to! Am too depleted to write more about that atm - I think I’m finding the doses are having a sedative effect. But there could be so many reasons for that... I’m having other issues that I didn’t have last time. And still wonder if I’m using the protocol correctly by trying to do the dosing oil with it. It kind of means I don’t vape at all for the whole time. This time I think, once I’m 6days done - I’ll repeat days 3-6 for the vape... maybe that’ll be the ticket... I never did get around to emailing Dr S about multiple modes of delivery and using to treat different things. Will try to find the energy to do that...

 

[Advocate420]

I’ve been meaning to suggest we do that since you started it! I might start to slowly collate some info for you...

So glad it’s going well for you.

I wish is didn’t struggle so much with this protocol, or knew why that happens. I think maybe there’s so much going on in my system that it’s really hard to listen to! Am too depleted to write more about that atm - I think I’m finding the doses are having a sedative effect. But there could be so many reasons for that... I’m having other issues that I didn’t have last time. And still wonder if I’m using the protocol correctly by trying to do the dosing oil with it. It kind of means I don’t vape at all for the whole time. This time I think, once I’m 6days done - I’ll repeat days 3-6 for the vape... maybe that’ll be the ticket... I never did get around to emailing Dr S about multiple modes of delivery and using to treat different things. Will try to find the energy to do that...

If I can offer any help. Please let me know Amy. Hang i there. The boat is not strait forward.

 

[SweetSue]

If I can offer any help. Please let me know Amy. Hang i there. The boat is not strait forward.

If you could be so kind as to forward her question to Dr. Sulak it would allow her to conserve her energy.

What is the protocol for introducing multiple medicines? Amy depends on both modes of delivery, using oil and flower.

 

[Amy Gardner]

... moved me to tears right there Sue

 

[Advocate420]

If you could be so kind as to forward her question to Dr. Sulak it would allow her to conserve her energy.

What is the protocol for introducing multiple medicines? Amy depends on both modes of delivery, using oil and flower.

Not really enough information.

 

[Advocate420]

If you could be so kind as to forward her question to Dr. Sulak it would allow her to conserve her energy.

What is the protocol for introducing multiple medicines? Amy depends on both modes of delivery, using oil and flower.

... moved me to tears right there Sue

Strategies for Non-Psychoactive Cannabis Use - Healer

 

[SweetSue]

Not really enough information.

Do you mean we’re breaking new ground, or we need to be more precise about the question?

 

[SweetSue]

... moved me to tears right there Sue

 

[Amy Gardner]

Strategies for Non-Psychoactive Cannabis Use - Healer

Thanks! Yes - I’m already pretty across all that! I’ve read his website extensively actually as well as a myriad sources about dosing with CBD as well as THC. I have been microdosing for about 6 months with infused EVOO oil made from a 2:1 CBD:THC plant. I had a recent break because I ran out of the oil, but since a new harvest and making more oil Ive been back on track with that. I was planning that this run through the protocol would get me acquainted with the new oil in more detail. That’s not really happening because I can’t read what’s going on because there is so much and the physical symptoms I have confuse things a lot. Plus there are other medications in the picture (one added quite recently) so clarity in response is hard to come by. I’m realising how much the vaping has been adding to my ability to cope with the life situation (as well as other actual direct symptoms of the illness).

Today I’m wondering if I mightn’t just say screw it and leave the oil at a .25ml 4xday dose like I was doing with the other batch, and just go through the microdosing protocol with the vape on top of that.

I can’t find anything on the healer website about treating more than one condition with more than one dosing protocol simultaneously and how one might go about that. I imagine it’s true for many people though. I probably need a face to face with him because while I still have the capacity to write, laying out what I need to in text format is beyond me right now. That’s unlikely at this distance and with my budget.

I seem to be not cut out for this protocol - which would ironic because I’m a big fan! But I struggled with finding the oil dose last time and had similar issues with not really being able to read the respaonsea well. This time is worse though on that level, and last time I was more well than I am now, so there’s a possible correlation.

@InTheShed i have a big favour to ask of you.
If I tell you what ratio of bud to oil I used for my infusion, could you do the Oldbear spreadsheet thing for me to work out my likely amount of mg/ml? I just can’t sit at the computer ATM and can’t comprehend the spreadsheet (even though the spreadsheet is awesome and clear - it’s my brain. I used to write the damn things ffs, but many faculties have deserted me with this thing). I’d really like to know the likely ballpark of my oil strength so I can assess how many mg of the cannabinoids im gettIng. I realise it’s not totally precise because who knows how efficient my decarb or my infusion is, but it gives some idea, right?

I used 4g of CBD Critical Cure bud, decarbed @ approx 110*C for 110 minutes and then infused it into 4oz of EVOO for 8hrs.

If you can - then awesome. No big rush on that request. Just realised the few days as I’ve tried to do it that it’s not going to happen.

 

[Advocate420]

Thanks! Yes - I’m already pretty across all that! I’ve read his website extensively actually as well as a myriad sources about dosing with CBD as well as THC. I have been microdosing for about 6 months with infused EVOO oil made from a 2:1 CBD:THC plant. I had a recent break because I ran out of the oil, but since a new harvest and making more oil Ive been back on track with that. I was planning that this run through the protocol would get me acquainted with the new oil in more detail. That’s not really happening because I can’t read what’s going on because there is so much and the physical symptoms I have confuse things a lot. Plus there are other medications in the picture (one added quite recently) so clarity in response is hard to come by. I’m realising how much the vaping has been adding to my ability to cope with the life situation (as well as other actual direct symptoms of the illness).

Today I’m wondering if I mightn’t just say screw it and leave the oil at a .25ml 4xday dose like I was doing with the other batch, and just go through the microdosing protocol with the vape on top of that.

I can’t find anything on the healer website about treating more than one condition with more than one dosing protocol simultaneously and how one might go about that. I imagine it’s true for many people though. I probably need a face to face with him because while I still have the capacity to write, laying out what I need to in text format is beyond me right now. That’s unlikely at this distance and with my budget.

I seem to be not cut out for this protocol - which would ironic because I’m a big fan! But I struggled with finding the oil dose last time and had similar issues with not really being able to read the respaonsea well. This time is worse though on that level, and last time I was more well than I am now, so there’s a possible correlation.

@InTheShed i have a big favour to ask of you.
If I tell you what ratio of bud to oil I used for my infusion, could you do the Oldbear spreadsheet thing for me to work out my likely amount of mg/ml? I just can’t sit at the computer ATM and can’t comprehend the spreadsheet (even though the spreadsheet is awesome and clear - it’s my brain. I used to write the damn things ffs, but many faculties have deserted me with this thing). I’d really like to know the likely ballpark of my oil strength so I can assess how many mg of the cannabinoids im gettIng. I realise it’s not totally precise because who knows how efficient my decarb or my infusion is, but it gives some idea, right?

I used 4g of CBD Critical Cure bud, decarbed @ approx 110*C for 110 minutes and then infused it into 4oz of EVOO for 8hrs.

If you can - then awesome. No big rush on that request. Just realised the few days as I’ve tried to do it that it’s not going to happen.

He for sure needs to know the medications, ailments being treated, quality of product, methods, medical history.. I’m not sure I can cover that in a friendly email in any responsible manner. I know for me micro dosing was affordable to do at the dispensary and getting actual measured doses was key.

 

[Amy Gardner]

I understand that. But has he ever talked about using more than one mode of delivery at once do you know?
It is just some guidance, in general, about how the protocol might be applied to that circumstance that we’re aiming for.

 

[Advocate420]

I guess I don’t know what the problem is exactly, too much, too little. I mean pharmacodynamics says the oral meds are going to give a slower relaease over a longer period of time and the smoke is going to give a short acting more potent dose on that but will also make the microdose less effective.

 

[SweetSue]

And the challenge here is how to introduce the meds back in because her body needs both types of medication to get the relief she’s seeking.

Hmmm.... ok.... everything always works out for us Amy. We’ll figure this out. I think your plan is a good one. This protocol is excellent if the patient is only coming back to one medication, but how many of us are only medicating with one method?

With my daughter the CBD Critical Cure forms the baseline of her regimen. She takes approximately 160 mg of CBD and about half that in THC with this med. That keeps her anxiety at a manageable level.

As she lets the weight go that dose’ll decrease, but for now we learned that we can’t drop it at all or she slips to the dark side.

But she vapes also, because that baseline, effective as it may be, isn’t enough to keep her emotional tone even enough to banish the fear. She also vapes for pleasure.

I keep wondering if we really understand what’s going on inside the human body? That’s just frustration sneaking in.

How do you end this protocol with more than one medication? The obvious answer is to start with the most critical meds, but how do we really determine that? In this case the vaping is as important as the oil.

My daughter uses oils as a baseline, vaping to level off her mood and brownies to both help her sleep through the night without terrors and gain the courage to leave the apartment. If you asked her which one was most important she’d say the oils, “but”.

Also, not everyone wants to medicate without euphoria. Some of us cherish our euphoria.

 

[Advocate420]

With my last advice in mind it would stand to reason that you would have to increase your oral meds dosing to get the same effect throughout the day as your levels build. Just saying. You can’t do that without quickly building a tolerance

 

[Advocate420]

And the challenge here is how to introduce the meds back in because her body needs both types of medication to get the relief she’s seeking.

Hmmm.... ok.... everything always works out for us Amy. We’ll figure this out. I think your plan is a good one. This protocol is excellent if the patient is only coming back to one medication, but how many of us are only medicating with one method?

With my daughter the CBD Critical Cure forms the baseline of her regimen. She takes approximately 160 mg of CBD and about half that in THC with this med. That keeps her anxiety at a manageable level.

As she lets the weight go that dose’ll decrease, but for now we learned that we can’t drop it at all or she slips to the dark side.

But she vapes also, because that baseline, effective as it may be, isn’t enough to keep her emotional tone even enough to banish the fear. She also vapes for pleasure.

I keep wondering if we really understand what’s going on inside the human body? That’s just frustration sneaking in.

How do you end this protocol with more than one medication? The obvious answer is to start with the most critical meds, but how do we really determine that? In this case the vaping is as important as the oil.

My daughter uses oils as a baseline, vaping to level off her mood and brownies to both help her sleep through the night without terrors and gain the courage to leave the apartment. If you asked her which one was most important she’d say the oils, “but”.

Also, not everyone wants to medicate without euphoria. Some of us cherish our euphoria.

Maybe it is to be considered if your goal is euphoria then nope this program won’t work for you. Just how tolerance works.

 

[InTheShed]

@InTheShed i have a big favour to ask of you.
If I tell you what ratio of bud to oil I used for my infusion, could you do the Oldbear spreadsheet thing for me to work out my likely amount of mg/ml? I just can’t sit at the computer ATM and can’t comprehend the spreadsheet (even though the spreadsheet is awesome and clear - it’s my brain. I used to write the damn things ffs, but many faculties have deserted me with this thing). I’d really like to know the likely ballpark of my oil strength so I can assess how many mg of the cannabinoids im gettIng. I realise it’s not totally precise because who knows how efficient my decarb or my infusion is, but it gives some idea, right?
I used 4g of CBD Critical Cure bud, decarbed @ approx 110*C for 110 minutes and then infused it into 4oz of EVOO for 8hrs.
If you can - then awesome. No big rush on that request. Just realised the few days as I’ve tried to do it that it’s not going to happen.

I'd be happy to Amy! I need the following info to do the calculations:
THC %
CBD %
You already gave me the plant material (4 grams, after decarb?) and oil quantity (4 ounces/118.294ml of EVOO).

With just those two pieces of info I can get you a rough mg/ml calculation.

 

[SweetSue]

I like to be conservative when I calculate ours. I go with 8% CBD and 5% THC.

Seedsman lists it at 5.5% THC and 8.3% CBD

I like round numbers.

 

[SweetSue]

Maybe it is to be considered if your goal is euphoria then nope this program won’t work for you. Just how tolerance works.

Why can’t the goal be medical relief with euphoria? Euphoria has great medical benefit.

The question is how to use the protocol with more than one cannabis medication?

 

[SweetSue]

Is there any way to ask Dr. Sulak that simple question?

 

[Amy Gardner]

or she slips to the dark side

.... slip!

If you asked her which one was most important she’d say the oils, “but”.

This! ^^^

Also, not everyone wants to medicate without euphoria. Some of us cherish our euphoria.

... and this^^^

Maybe it is to be considered if your goal is euphoria then nope this program won’t work for you. Just how tolerance works.

I think I'd have to politley disagree there. He explicitly talk about this protocol helping people achieve their desired high at a lower dose. It's one of the ways he recommends people to use it.

I'd be happy to Amy! I need the following info to do the calculations:
THC %
CBD %
You already gave me the plant material (4 grams, after decarb?) and oil quantity (4 ounces/118.294ml of EVOO).

With just those two pieces of info I can get you a rough mg/ml calculation.

Thanks Shed - that 4g was dry bud before decarb - and yes it was decarb'd before the 8hr infusion.

I like to be conservative when I calculate ours. I go with 8% CBD and 5% THC.

Seedsman lists it at 5.5% THC and 8.3% CBD

I like round numbers.

And thanks Sue!

Shed, do you have everything you need now?