4inch PVC Aero/NFT 4x5 SCROG - 1200 Watts

Re: 4inch PVC Aero/NFT 4x5 SCROG (1200 Watts)

32 OZ is my guess :grinjoint: did you get any pics of the root growth before you cleaned up


Funny you should ask....


As promised, here is the root mass. All 3 were virtually identical.



root11.jpg


root21.jpg


Thanks for the kind words everyone.

:thankyou:
 
Re: 4inch PVC Aero/NFT 4x5 SCROG (1200 Watts)

420fied... What can I say, other than Kudos on your journal and the grow !!!!
Wicked grow Bro !!
I sat back, watched and read with anticipation. I have gathered a ton info and inspiration.... many many thanx to you Bro (and Ed as well ) !! :nicethread:
 
Re: 4inch PVC Aero/NFT 4x5 SCROG (1200 Watts)

If those roots were braided up (heck even they way they are now), I wonder how much force it would take to break it. From the looks of them, It would appear that you could tow a supertanker with a tugboat using the roots as rope.

Thanks for sharing this grow with us 420fied. Now let's see them outdoor beauties!
 
Re: 4inch PVC Aero/NFT 4x5 SCROG (1200 Watts)

those roots look like obx's beard lol! nice journal fied, ive been a silent follower of ur work got me considering putting a scrog together but great job looking forward to total wieght MY GUESS 29oz :nicethread::cheertwo:
 
Re: 4inch PVC Aero/NFT 4x5 SCROG (1200 Watts)

johnnydetroit,

the hydro guy may know his stuff, or he may have never seen an aero/hydro setup with this exact size reservoir, aero sprays, 1200 watts right above it.

with the spray nozzels in the PVC dispersing the water in a mist right under those lights, with the pump constantly running and adding heat, this and any DWC/NFT/AERO setup is going to be vulnerable to warmer water temperatures.

Any problem in air temperature would be magnified if the water hitting your roots hit 90" degrees too. It would be REAL BAD, REAL FAST.

Why risk that type of investment on hot water when the man whose grow you are hoping to emulate said he wouldn't try it without a chiller when he described the setup in the first few posts?

The author wouldn't risk it, I wouldn't do risk it if I was trying to emulate it, but the grow is yours. Maybe it will be fine in your room. Only one way to find out.



420fied ----- GREAT GROW. Really cool set up. +rep.


Chiller is being ordered. I found a great local grow shop, 26% off all products, if its not in stock they will order it and I still get the 26% off.

I have some other questions, humidity and air temp. My room will be 8' x 8', using panda plastic (white/black side), using 2" x 4" studs for walls. Im ordering a 440cfpm inline fan 6". Now if the air in my room is cleared every min or so how can I control the humidity / temp? I could cut a window out in my wall and put a smaller air conditioner in it? This room is located in a basement with concert walls so in the summer its still cool. I'm ordering the $220 HORTILUX™ SUPER HPS™ in a XXXL reflector. I have to have my list ready by SAT in the A.M. Here is my list so far.



902020 SS-10 HPS 1000 $172.95

736605 ECOPLUS SUPREME 6IN INLINE FAN 440CFM $173.95

736730 AIR KING 16IN 3 SPEED FAN x2 $131.90

716650 SMS410 TDS MONITOR $117.49

716660 SMS110 PH MONITOR $116.95

730100 PANDA FILM 10' X 100' ROLL $89.95

904520 MAGNUM XXXL 6 INCH AIR COOLED (10/PLT) $214.95

901796 MT1000B-D/HOR/HTL-BLUE (6/CS) $219.95

702605 TITAN EOS 1 HUMIDITY CONTROLLER $126.95

714110 HYDROTON 10 LITER 8-16mm (140/PALLET) $9.29

728060 MAG DRIVE PUMP 500 GPH (6/CS) $102.95

728800 STEALTH RO SYSTEM 100 GPD $225.00

724370 3IN NET CUP BROWN (GH) $4.00

total/discount $1706.28 / 1365.03




728695 ECO PLUS 1/10 HP CHILLER $382.95

728075 MAG DRIVE PUMP 190 GPH (4/CS) $49.95

total/discount $432.90 / 346.32


home depot

2'x4', 4" pvc, screws, horse stand $150.00



misc
nutri $50.00

fittings $50.00

tubes $40.00

tubs $60.00

light timer $20.00

duct $25.00

total $245.00


grand total $2106.35


website Sunlight Supply

i cut and pasted my list, sorry. hand is broken and I'm limited on typing
 
Re: 4inch PVC Aero/NFT 4x5 SCROG (1200 Watts)

Those roots are incredible, I would of been happy with your little bud harvest. Great job...
 
Re: 4inch PVC Aero/NFT 4x5 SCROG (1200 Watts)

Chiller is being ordered. I found a great local grow shop, 26% off all products, if its not in stock they will order it and I still get the 20% off.

I have some other questions, humidity and air temp. My room will be 8' x 8', using panda plastic (white/black side), using 2" x 4" studs for walls. Im ordering a 440cfpm inline fan 6". Now if the air in my room is cleared every min or so how can I control the humidity / temp? I could cut a window out in my wall and put a smaller air conditioner in it? This room is located in a basement with concert walls so in the summer its still cool. I'm ordering the $220 HORTILUX SUPER HPS in a XXXL reflector. I have to have my list ready by SAT in the A.M. Here is my list so far.



902020 SS-10 HPS 1000 $172.95

736605 ECOPLUS SUPREME 6IN INLINE FAN 440CFM $173.95

736730 AIR KING 16IN 3 SPEED FAN x2 $131.90

716650 SMS410 TDS MONITOR $117.49

716660 SMS110 PH MONITOR $116.95

730100 PANDA FILM 10' X 100' ROLL $89.95

904520 MAGNUM XXXL 6 INCH AIR COOLED (10/PLT) $214.95

901796 MT1000B-D/HOR/HTL-BLUE (6/CS) $219.95

702605 TITAN EOS 1 HUMIDITY CONTROLLER $126.95

714110 HYDROTON 10 LITER 8-16mm (140/PALLET) $9.29

728060 MAG DRIVE PUMP 500 GPH (6/CS) $102.95

728800 STEALTH RO SYSTEM 100 GPD $225.00

724370 3IN NET CUP BROWN (GH) $4.00

total/discount $1706.28 / 1365.03




728695 ECO PLUS 1/10 HP CHILLER $382.95

728075 MAG DRIVE PUMP 190 GPH (4/CS) $49.95

total/discount $432.90 / 346.32


home depot

2'x4', 4" pvc, screws, horse stand $150.00



misc
nutri $50.00

fittings $50.00

tubes $40.00

tubs $60.00

light timer $20.00

duct $25.00

total $245.00


grand total $2106.35


website Sunlight Supply

i cut and pasted my list, sorry. hand is broken and I'm limited on typing

Johnny,

I've read your post and your list and I have a few questions and comments:

1. Your room is 8x8 and if I'm reading right the walls will be studded with panda over them as sheating, correct?

2. If so, and this room is enclosed in a cool basement(how cool is it?), logic tells me that this room is going to have relatively the same RH as the basement itself. Therefore, you really won't know if you'll need a dehumidifier until you start growing. You can veg with RH in the 70-80's but you want to flower in the 40-55% RH range. As far as the AC goes, I'd need to see the setup to comment but if I'm reading right, wouldnt the AC be inside the basement?

3. You have $50.00 listed for "nutri" which I suspect is nutrients. It's very important to grow with good nutes that won't gum up your sprayers. I used Advanced Nutrients Sensi Grow A&B as well as Conniseur A&B. I've also used Sensi Bloom A&B and it does a fine job. Either way, Expect to have 200-300 invested in nutrients per grow.

4. I see 3 inch net cups listed but you plan to use 4 inch PVC? 4 inch PVC will not accomodate 3" cups. You must use 2" cups and neoprene sleeves in the 4 inch pipe. There's no room for hydroton. To grow this way you need to keep a mother and clip clones from to feed your system with. Snip em, dip em, place them right into the sleeve and start spraying them.

5. You need to look into investing in a light mover for your 1000 watter. It'll pay for itself after 1 harvest.

6. You need a lot of special fittings, float valves, vinyl hose in various sizes, drains, etc to set your system up right. Have you thought of these things? Have you ordered your sprayers? grommets? brass fittings to run your sprayer hoses from? Have you built your spray pump or do you have an idea or concept for it?

The details make all the difference when growing like this.

All of these items and ways to get them can be found within my journal. Use it as a resource/blueprint if you'd like.

Lastly, I know why they promised you the 20% off.... those folks are expensive.....lol

Either way, best of luck!
 
Re: 4inch PVC Aero/NFT 4x5 SCROG (1200 Watts)

Ya I'm still unsure on how the spray system will be built but there will be 22 jets. The basement is about 35' x 25'. Yes the studs will be lined with panda pvc liner for a fully enclosed 8' x 8' room. I guess I have to keep the incoming air cooled? Meaning I have to cool the basement (incoming air) with a air conditioner/heater (cold winters, cool summers.) I'm not sure. Ya I wont use any medium, I'm using 4" square pvc probably will use 2" nets, 3" will fit. I figured 50$ on nutrients to start. Need another paycheck :)
 
Re: 4inch PVC Aero/NFT 4x5 SCROG (1200 Watts)

Those roots look perfect. You have convinced me to emulate your grow when I move back to the beach. Very Nice. RoorRip

Question: Do you think a longer pipe would help? I think you mentioned going with a 6" pipe - from those roots, seems like 20' of 4" pipe could be filled... with U's of course to keep them within the grow space.
 
Re: Hell of a grow!!!

I know that harvest took alot out of u. Nice work, definitely gonna give hydro a run. I'll take a stab at it and say 26oz dry weight. PPM never exceeded 600W, damn. How's the potency? Hell of a journal man, let us know when ur gonna do it again. :grinjoint::cheertwo:;):cheertwo::nicethread::cheertwo::peace:

I know. 420fied has shown us all that pumping in high nutrient levels won't necessarily lead to bigger grows even if the plants can tolerate those high levels.
 
Re: 4inch PVC Aero/NFT 4x5 SCROG (1200 Watts)

once again, great job.
too bad you aren't gonna run the next one for us to see.

Catch ya later.
WOF

We need to start the peer pressure ;)


:cheertwo:Appeal from the Fans:cheertwo:
 
Re: 4inch PVC Aero/NFT 4x5 SCROG (1200 Watts)

Unfortunately, I just now stumbled on your journal (wish it had been sooner). I have been reading the thread for the last hour and a half! I am totally amazed at the amount of information you have shared. I have been accumulating the parts I need to do an aero grow and you have answered every question I had about the system and experiance. Thanks so much for all of your effort! GREAT JOB! :adore:
 
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