480W & 720W LED Grow - Land of Clovers

[IrishBoy]

re: 480W & 720W Grow LED Hydro - Land Of Clovers

Looking good Irish...... I am loving all the good info and the great vibe around this place... I would recommend earth Juice microblast, it might be a good addition to your feed... Good to see you are enjoying the organics, and the best is yet to come....

i have been looking into that, for sure. i cant wait until i finish this grow and switch over to full organics most likely the XG company i am using. my Jack Herer plants are just thriving with it. i have so much resin forming i thought it was mold.lol. never seen resin just so packed together. its been far the most easy grow ive done yet. just drop a tea bag in a bucket let it brew and feed the plants once a week other times just plain water. i cant wait to taste the finish product never had organics before.

i will look into the Micro Blast tomorrow and see how much Zinc and stuff it has.

Unless those nails are organic I wouldn't put them in for fear of any problems the rust and coating of the metal might do to the roots/plant and microlife.

Thats for sure.

 

[Dexter4Morgan]

re: 480W & 720W Grow LED Hydro - Land Of Clovers

Earth Juice Microblast is a proprietary liquid micronutrient formula to be used to prevent and correct micronutrient deficiencies. Contains Magnesium 0.50%; Boron 0.02%; Cobalt 0.0005%; Iron 0.10%; Manganese 0.05%; Molybdenum 0.0005%; and Zinc 0.05% in an organic base. Naturally buffered for assured plant absorption. May be watered in or used as a foliage spray. Use 2 tsp. Earth Juice Microblast / gallon of water.

Ingredients: Kelp meal, magnesium sulfate, borax, cobalt sulfate, ferrous sulfate, manganese sulfate, sodium molybdate and zinc sulfate.

From their website
Earth Juice Microblast

 

[lbezphil2005]

re: 480W & 720W Grow LED Hydro - Land Of Clovers

very good point. i know allot of things cause problems but i will try to avoid them all i can.

I am wondering if i feed my girls some of that Xtreme tea from xtreme gardening would help them? IDK whats in it but my Jacks dont have one problem. might be something that could help them.

Hey bro, I may be asking a question thats already been answered, but I've been following along on the whole thread and can't recall if you laid out what you were using from XG? I have looked at some of their stuff, interested especially in the myko stuff. Anyway, interested in the concoctions you are using!

 

[IrishBoy]

re: 480W & 720W Grow LED Hydro - Land Of Clovers

From their website
Earth Juice Microblast

Thanks buddy

Hey bro, I may be asking a question thats already been answered, but I've been following along on the whole thread and can't recall if you laid out what you were using from XG? I have looked at some of their stuff, interested especially in the myko stuff. Anyway, interested in the concoctions you are using!

Its on the 1st page

 

[jdizzle22]

re: 480W & 720W Grow LED Hydro - Land Of Clovers

Earth Juice is the organic 3 bottle pack I'm deciding on going with, I also bought their organic pH up and down. But for my organic soil I'm using Fox Farm Ocean Forest presently. On the way I have some Fox Farm Potting Mix and Light Warrior. Organic Black Gold, Dolomite Lime, and Fox Farm Peace of Mind Fruit and Flower. I'm going for the Moonshine Man Mix which aims to grow organically in the same soil from seed to harvest with nothing but water. I however will also be buying the organic Earth Juice 3 bottle pack (Veg, Flower, Micro nuts n bat shit/etc) just in case.

 

[IrishBoy]

re: 480W & 720W Grow LED Hydro - Land Of Clovers

Earth Juice is the organic 3 bottle pack I'm deciding on going with, I also bought their organic pH up and down. But for my organic soil I'm using Fox Farm Ocean Forest presently. On the way I have some Fox Farm Potting Mix and Light Warrior. Organic Black Gold, Dolomite Lime, and Fox Farm Peace of Mind Fruit and Flower. I'm going for the Moonshine Man Mix which aims to grow organically in the same soil from seed to harvest with nothing but water. I however will also be buying the organic Earth Juice 3 bottle pack (Veg, Flower, Micro nuts n bat shit/etc) just in case.

SubCool super Soil is great stuff.

i was going to go EJ but i like Age Old better. both seem to be top notch, but more people seem to like AO better mainly because of the big PH problems with EJ. although if you have good micro life that wont matter as much.

 

[IrishBoy]

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i was thinking, if i feed my girls with a good feeding of seaweed shouldn't that give the plants Zinc or Iron? i believe Seaweed has all that in it?

 

[Doc Bud]

re: 480W & 720W Grow LED Hydro - Land Of Clovers

i was thinking, if i feed my girls with a good feeding of seaweed shouldn't that give the plants Zinc or Iron? i believe Seaweed has all that in it?

That would be a good way to maintain zinc/iron levels...but you have a deficiency.

Use a supplement!

Also Iron=rust. don't be afraid of it....iron shavings are in natural soil everywhere....remember when you had a magnet and played in the dirt?

So the nails work just fine.....but they are SLOW. Ironite or liquinox my friend. Then keep things going with the microblast.

Also, once you try the organic buds you'll not ever go back. The taste is superior.

Personally, I find that if you try to provide everything in the soil, and then supplement with a few enhancers and a low dose of OC+/DM you get a nearly perfect grow. No burning, no deficiencies....near perfect.

Setting Sun got hold of some Jack Herer buds grown that way, he did a smoke report on my journal....said it was possibly the best tasting bud ever....top few for sure....and he's been doing this since the '70's.

Organics are the way to go!

 

[molotov]

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Doc, how about using an organic zinc supplement for people in pill form. Just dissolve it in a gallon of water. I would imagine the zinc is the same as for plants right? Get a bottle of zinc supplement at a drugstore and dissolve a pill or two in a gallon of water? I want to get the Liquinox zinc and iron but I guess you have to order online. Can't find it in any local garden centers.

 

[go green]

re: 480W & 720W Grow LED Hydro - Land Of Clovers

Give the ladies plenty of root space as well...

There likely would not be a need for additional supplements per adequate root space.



-Go

 

[Be Irie]

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Kelp makes a great foliar.... 2x a week.... also add it in to mixes.. IMHO kelp is the single best thing for your plants... Wouldn't grow without it...

 

[Dexter4Morgan]

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Kelp makes a great foliar.... 2x a week.... also add it in to mixes.. IMHO kelp is the single best thing for your plants... Wouldn't grow without it...

How far into flower do you use it ?

U using the liquid Maxicrop ?

 

[Be Irie]

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I use maxi and age old kelp in liquid form and also have a few different powdered forms that are added into my soil mixes. I only foliar with straight water in flowering. I add it to the feeds in flowering..

 

[IrishBoy]

re: 480W & 720W Grow LED Hydro - Land Of Clovers

That would be a good way to maintain zinc/iron levels...but you have a deficiency.

Use a supplement!

Also Iron=rust. don't be afraid of it....iron shavings are in natural soil everywhere....remember when you had a magnet and played in the dirt?

So the nails work just fine.....but they are SLOW. Ironite or liquinox my friend. Then keep things going with the microblast.

Also, once you try the organic buds you'll not ever go back. The taste is superior.

Personally, I find that if you try to provide everything in the soil, and then supplement with a few enhancers and a low dose of OC+/DM you get a nearly perfect grow. No burning, no deficiencies....near perfect.

Setting Sun got hold of some Jack Herer buds grown that way, he did a smoke report on my journal....said it was possibly the best tasting bud ever....top few for sure....and he's been doing this since the '70's.

Organics are the way to go!

i got both liquinox and nicro blast today. hit them right now with the liquinox because its cheleated and made for these def, then latter on down the road i will feed them the microblast once in a while to keep them fresh. A Zinc def is know joke one of the worse def ive ever seen, straight makes buds stop growing in their tracks and kills all resin where their yellow. trying to act fast since their only almost 4 weeks in.

now my XG organics grow is off the hook, not one problem and the buds at 2 weeks are just covered in resin, never seen anything like it that young. i bet my whole grow gets changed over. i am not going to deal with the DM red is Zinc is going to be a issue, because thats takes the whole point away from it. i much rather use the XG TRF's because their organic and the NPK is good or even the DM brown bottle thats organic with micro blast added. i cant wait to try the organic buds! but i think for sure i will stay away from the organic soil they dont drain all that good and cuts allot of air out to the roots. SS#4 mixed with EWC and kelp is where its at.

Doc, how about using an organic zinc supplement for people in pill form. Just dissolve it in a gallon of water. I would imagine the zinc is the same as for plants right? Get a bottle of zinc supplement at a drugstore and dissolve a pill or two in a gallon of water? I want to get the Liquinox zinc and iron but I guess you have to order online. Can't find it in any local garden centers.

i wouldn't chance it. i found my bottle at OSH

Give the ladies plenty of root space as well...

There likely would not be a need for additional supplements per adequate root space.



-Go

my girls have 5 gal pots the problem is that DM red dosent have Zinc in it, so thats how the problem happen

Kelp makes a great foliar.... 2x a week.... also add it in to mixes.. IMHO kelp is the single best thing for your plants... Wouldn't grow without it...

I use maxi and age old kelp in liquid form and also have a few different powdered forms that are added into my soil mixes. I only foliar with straight water in flowering. I add it to the feeds in flowering..

I think Seaweed is the best thing ever! and EWC right behind it. Some reason everyone says not to use Seaweed in flowering only veg i cant figure it out? dose it mess with taste? even GH says to stop using their seaweed in flowering. any idea why?

Do you use just their kelp or their kelp/fish from A.O.?

 

[wannabgreen]

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hey, irish
very very longtime(years) lurker/ recent member/ and a huge fan of your grows even though i rarely coment on any threads there are some guys and gals on here who really got it 2gether and even a handfull or so i consider it a priviledge to be able to read their grows and view their bud/plant porn(yours/pitv/lavender and a few others whos names escape me at the moment). more times than i have fingers have i smoked out with the local dro and drooled over budporn on this site--it's an awesome site and mainly because people all seem to get along here no matter where their from or what they do for a living or what race they are theres young adults/middle aged folks/senoir citizens everyone is here all walks of life sowing the seeds of greatness and helping the others here to sucess in sowing the seeds also-
i firmly believe that weed and industrial hemp could save this country and possibly even the world. wow that was good some og when im done writing this i gotta go bak and cop another sak of that--it's a rare occasion when something hits me like that shit just did got me rambling-i came to ask a question about the glh lights and ended up writing a novel b4 i got to it, well here goes on glh website it gives a coverage area and saturation area for each light assuming each light is used in it's recommended sized areas do you or anyone here have an opinion on whether or not the differant size lights will produce the same quality meds just in a differant size areai am finally growing some balls and going to order some lights and get started i have as much space as needed and wanted to wait for my lights decision and design a room or 2 around the lights my only goal is for me and my brother to never buy any again so 3 or 4 at a time should do just fine-i kinda wanna do 2 smaller rooms so after a batch or 2 i can dedicate 1 to makeing crosses just for the fun of it thats gotta be awesome to make your own mixes alot of times i smoke out and surf seedbank sites looking for shit that would be something i'd want mixed 2gether wandering what youd get if you crossed this with that.1 thats stuck in my head right now is lemorine skream which of course would tangerine dream and a good old lemon skunk

 

[jdizzle22]

re: 480W & 720W Grow LED Hydro - Land Of Clovers

Hey Irish might I suggest you give Air Pots a shot? You could easily do a comparison without needing an extra tent, but I do think one needs to water these a little more often.

Air-Pot Garden

I got mine from Air Pots

 

[Be Irie]

re: 480W & 720W Grow LED Hydro - Land Of Clovers

I have used all of the Age Old line.. Right now I have their kelp and fish ( for the veg plants and I use the Max for both stages... My nutes are stopped around three weeks before estimated harvest. The they just get light mollasses feedings and the last watering or two are water... I try not to feed anything serious for the last three weeks.. No guanos for sure, sometimes I have had to throw in a light dose of something to help hold them over for a week or so..... I am not sure about the not using it into flowering.. I know more then a few growers that use kelp in their flowering mixes... Guess i will have to look into that..

 

[IrishBoy]

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hey, irish
very very longtime(years) lurker/ recent member/ and a huge fan of your grows even though i rarely coment on any threads there are some guys and gals on here who really got it 2gether and even a handfull or so i consider it a priviledge to be able to read their grows and view their bud/plant porn(yours/pitv/lavender and a few others whos names escape me at the moment). more times than i have fingers have i smoked out with the local dro and drooled over budporn on this site--it's an awesome site and mainly because people all seem to get along here no matter where their from or what they do for a living or what race they are theres young adults/middle aged folks/senoir citizens everyone is here all walks of life sowing the seeds of greatness and helping the others here to sucess in sowing the seeds also-
i firmly believe that weed and industrial hemp could save this country and possibly even the world. wow that was good some og when im done writing this i gotta go bak and cop another sak of that--it's a rare occasion when something hits me like that shit just did got me rambling-i came to ask a question about the glh lights and ended up writing a novel b4 i got to it, well here goes on glh website it gives a coverage area and saturation area for each light assuming each light is used in it's recommended sized areas do you or anyone here have an opinion on whether or not the differant size lights will produce the same quality meds just in a differant size areai am finally growing some balls and going to order some lights and get started i have as much space as needed and wanted to wait for my lights decision and design a room or 2 around the lights my only goal is for me and my brother to never buy any again so 3 or 4 at a time should do just fine-i kinda wanna do 2 smaller rooms so after a batch or 2 i can dedicate 1 to makeing crosses just for the fun of it thats gotta be awesome to make your own mixes alot of times i smoke out and surf seedbank sites looking for shit that would be something i'd want mixed 2gether wandering what youd get if you crossed this with that.1 thats stuck in my head right now is lemorine skream which of course would tangerine dream and a good old lemon skunk

Hey buddy welcome.

It is a great thing how every one on this site helps each other out and how close we are when we never even met in person, its truly amazing! i am very thankful to be apart of this and others actually like my grows. makes me feel good.

as far as ur GLH question, all though i haven't used all of their lights from what i have seen each light will make the same high quality buds. just the higher wattage lights will make more on a yield stand point IMO. just like a 400w HPS vs a 1000w HPS the 1000w will yield. just more intense light creates bigger/more dense buds IMO. dosent mean that two 180's would beat a 300w leds light.

thats is something ive always dreamed about doing. crossing my own strains. thats very cool to have ur own cross.

Hey Irish might I suggest you give Air Pots a shot? You could easily do a comparison without needing an extra tent, but I do think one needs to water these a little more often.

Air-Pot Garden

I got mine from Air Pots

to be honest ive looked into them and all my friend and web members that ive seen do side x side yielded no different with they vs plastic pots, just created more work and money. so i never tried them out. once i see some that make me think twice ill give them a try.

I have used all of the Age Old line.. Right now I have their kelp and fish ( for the veg plants and I use the Max for both stages... My nutes are stopped around three weeks before estimated harvest. The they just get light mollasses feedings and the last watering or two are water... I try not to feed anything serious for the last three weeks.. No guanos for sure, sometimes I have had to throw in a light dose of something to help hold them over for a week or so..... I am not sure about the not using it into flowering.. I know more then a few growers that use kelp in their flowering mixes... Guess i will have to look into that..

cool thanks for the info. it would be real cool if you could get a sample pack of the Xtreme Gardening products, their treating my girls real good, ive never seen anything like it. as simple as it gets bro, drop a tea bag thats pre made and brew it for 1-3 days depending on temps and feed once a week and just plain water the other feedings. my Jacks have a shit load of frost and not one single leaf problem as of now. its the most easy grow ive do to date. i think you might like them.
cant wait to see how they turn out? i truly think these Jacks are going to be amazing bro.

question for you, how often do u feed ur girls the Microblast? its says every 2-4 weeks do u go by that?

Also have u ever looked into Sucanat? i thinks its allot better then Molasses IMO and cheaper, with allot more carbs and all the goodies. suppose to give amazing flavor to the weed also.

if i get good results at the end from these XG products then i am going to switch everything over to their products, its allot cheaper in the long run and allot easier. Micro life is where its at bro, i love those little Homies

 

[lbezphil2005]

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Thanks for the info, Irishboy. After I posted the question I thought about it and figured it would probably be on the first page. Doh!!

 

[go green]

re: 480W & 720W Grow LED Hydro - Land Of Clovers

Thanks for clearing things up Irish! DM still seems to do wonders....

-Go-