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re: 420 Consumer Reports - GrowLEDHydro Spectra 300w LED / Lowryder II by Setting Sun

Irishboy said:
hey just to let you know when the girls get older, ive been keeping my 300's at around 14" and as you've seen in the pics their loving it. just thought i would share that info with you. know IMO i think its best to have the light higher until you see some good flowers forming then lower the light. ive seen allot of grows with lights being kept too close during the 1st few weeks of flowering and they were worst then when it was higher at 1st. just keep that in mind.

the girls look great getting nice and big, huge leafs on those lady's
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yep, I've been reading and watching where you got your lights at. I'll definitely be dropping them when they start to bloom.

They are some leafy ladies. Stems are getting nice and fat too ;)

thanks bro
 
re: 420 Consumer Reports - GrowLEDHydro Spectra 300w LED / Lowryder II by Setting Sun

808sWAGG said:
Yeah thats true about the 12/12 from start huh. But theirs just something about autos that is yes pretty fascinating to me haha:Hookah: So would it be cool to use say for instance 4 6500k cfls for about 3-4 weeks then switch it to 2500k for the rest of the time or would it be better to mix match the cfls all throughout the grow? Example 3 6500k 1 2500k for 3-4 weeks then 3 2500k and 1 6500k for the rest? Just curious haha thanks bro happy growing!:ganjamon:
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If I'm using a type of light that allows me to do it, I like to transition the plants by using just 6500k (or in my case 6700k) for most of veg, then half-&-half transitioning into bloom and early bloom, and then all 2500k (or in my case 3000k) for mid and late bloom.

If the plants start looking like they need to green-up a little in bloom, I might add some 6700k back in to stimulate the foliage.

I'd do the same for non-auto strains.

Just because they start to "flower" from the get-go, doesn't mean they don't have a vegetative phase, IMO.

I wouldn't give them bloom nutes from the beginning either for the same reason.

good question bro
 
re: 420 Consumer Reports - GrowLEDHydro Spectra 300w LED / Lowryder II by Setting Sun

KX808 said:
Howzit Setting Sun, hope you don't mind another hungry LED noob absorbing some knowledge. I've seen your postings around and I'm confident I'll learn some valuble intel.

Very interested in these Autos too as I popped a freebie bean almost 4 wks ago (N Lights) and she's been 24/0 from birth (another new exper).

And yeah, contradictions abound! Described as great for cloning which makes little sense to me cause 90day Mom could have a 145day daughter?

And oops, I just LST'd her a couple days ago using Irishboy's style. This baby is much more vigorous growing than her outside only cousins by 66% (ie Outside 3wk old W Widow & NY-47 aver 3" vs 3wk 24/0 NL @ 5").

I keep her in sun then move to lights (CFLs until Jul 3d when I switched to the supa bright 180w LED), which she adores BTW.

It's been a while since I've seen drama on these threads but can't wait for my fake cola....no rubber for me, Carbon Fiber Baby!

Peace! :peacetwo:
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glad you're here KX808!

Is this an auto Northern Lights? Do you know the seed co?

If it's an auto strain, you can't clone them because the clones, being the same age as the mom, would die before they had a chance to grow. Autos have to be grown from seed.

Yeah, if it's an auto, you don't want to stress it in any way because that just slows them down and gives them less time to grow buds.

I made a mistake with these LR2's by starting them in containers that were too small. Transplanting them stresses them and isn't good either. Next time, I'll start them in bigger pots.

Glad she's doing good under the 180w!

These are some very bright lights!
 
re: 420 Consumer Reports - GrowLEDHydro Spectra 300w LED / Lowryder II by Setting Sun

ol hippy said:
Hey guys was wondering what do you think about starting a grow( hydro res 5 fem'd NL from seeds) under a 288 watt LED ? How high up would you start off for seed germination?, using my old SH bubble res to start them off I was going to put the seeds right in the rockwool (worked before with HPS) and just go from there !? Never used these new lights before so any help from your experience would be appreciated ! Thanks :peace:
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For germination and baby seedlings, I'd start at around 30" or thereabouts.

Watch closely for stretch and if you get any, adjust down carefully to eliminate it.

I don't know much about rock wool. You have to PH it down, it tends to stay too wet, and enough peeps have trouble with it that I avoid it.

I like these Rapid Rooter plugs I've been using, and there is another brand called Root Riot that are good too. They contain natural rooting hormones and stay moist well, but don't promote stem rot, which is a problem with rock wool.
 
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I took my fave out for a few pics:


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I'll stick a pencil in there next to the stem for perspective next time, but the stems are getting nice and fat.

No signs of flowering yet at 4 weeks, and I'm getting a bit concerned but I think the transplant stressed them and slowed them down. If they don't start blooming in a few more days, I may flip them to 12/12.

They're looking good, nice and healthy ;)
 
re: 420 Consumer Reports - GrowLEDHydro Spectra 300w LED / Lowryder II by Setting Sun

Setting Sun said:
If I'm using a type of light that allows me to do it, I like to transition the plants by using just 6500k (or in my case 6700k) for most of veg, then half-&-half transitioning into bloom and early bloom, and then all 2500k (or in my case 3000k) for mid and late bloom.

If the plants start looking like they need to green-up a little in bloom, I might add some 6700k back in to stimulate the foliage.

I'd do the same for non-auto strains.

Just because they start to "flower" from the get-go, doesn't mean they don't have a vegetative phase, IMO.

I wouldn't give them bloom nutes from the beginning either for the same reason.

good question bro
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Sweet thanks alot Setting Sun cleared that up real nice and simple:slide: haha was hoping my ? wasnt to confusing:ganjamon: Plants look amaking by the way keep it up:goodjob: Might just start bloomin over night "cross thos fingers"! Peace bro
 
re: 420 Consumer Reports - GrowLEDHydro Spectra 300w LED / Lowryder II by Setting Sun

808sWAGG said:
Sweet thanks alot Setting Sun cleared that up real nice and simple:slide: haha was hoping my ? wasnt to confusing:ganjamon: Plants look amaking by the way keep it up:goodjob: Might just start bloomin over night "cross thos fingers"! Peace bro
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No problem 808, glad my response made some sense.

That's just how I do it. It's not like I ran any formal experiments or anything like that. It might even be better to use a 50/50 mix of bulbs/tubes all the way through.

PitViper said he has bloomed plants just fine using his T5 and leaving them at all 6500k, so there's more than one way that works well.

When germinating regular seeds and early veg, I do like to stick with just 6700k because some studies have shown that it increases the percentage of females.
 
re: 420 Consumer Reports - GrowLEDHydro Spectra 300w LED / Lowryder II by Setting Sun

Tunes420 said:
:goodjob: brother grower....plants look super healthy :thumb: I agree the self watering pots grow some nice plants...perfect for lowryder's IMO :popcorn:
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Tunes! whattup brother? ;)

thanks for visiting!

I just went over to take a look at what you're up to. WOW!

I'm going to have to go back and check your journal out some more. Lots of good stuff happening there ;).

Have you used these self-watering pots to grow weed?

I like how the Pondcare aquatic soil is working. It's actually the same thing as Turface, which is sold much cheaper in larger bags, but I couldn't find any locally.

It works just like vermiculite to increase water retention, but it doesn't have PH drift or break down like vermiculite does.

I can tell the pots are holding a lot more water than just perlite alone because of their weight, and I only added about 20% to the perlite.

hope all is well with you my friend, your garden is always fun to check out ;)
 
re: 420 Consumer Reports - GrowLEDHydro Spectra 300w LED / Lowryder II by Setting Sun

Setting Sun said:
No problem 808, glad my response made some sense.

That's just how I do it. It's not like I ran any formal experiments or anything like that. It might even be better to use a 50/50 mix of bulbs/tubes all the way through.

PitViper said he has bloomed plants just fine using his T5 and leaving them at all 6500k, so there's more than one way that works well.

When germinating regular seeds and early veg, I do like to stick with just 6700k because some studies have shown that it increases the percentage of females.
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Roger that:) Thanks much, i'll definetly take your word for it:thankyou: Just on here soaking in all the info i can! Happy growing bro keep it up:ganjamon:
 
re: 420 Consumer Reports - GrowLEDHydro Spectra 300w LED / Lowryder II by Setting Sun

SS: Bubbles in hempy? What's up with that? Why not just DWC? Plants look great. But I'm tripping on the hybrid hempy/bubbles thing.
 
re: 420 Consumer Reports - GrowLEDHydro Spectra 300w LED / Lowryder II by Setting Sun

hydronewbie said:
SS: Bubbles in hempy? What's up with that? Why not just DWC? Plants look great. But I'm tripping on the hybrid hempy/bubbles thing.
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Air stones are reported to make no difference in hempy buckets, but these pots aren't hempy buckets.

These have an actual fluid reservoir that can be oxygenated very easily, and since I already had everything I needed (from keeping tropical fish), I decided to set it up. It only took a few minutes.

Interestingly, I can shove the air stone in far enough so that very few bubbles escape through the access hole, which is what I'm showing in the second pic. I'm not sure what the dynamics are going on in there, but I think it's good, and I suspect it will make a difference in these pots.

I already notice a difference in the far back plant in the pics. She's been a bit droopy compared to her sisters until I set up the air stones. I'm also pretty sure I see even faster growth than previously, but it's gonna take a few more days to get a better sense of things.

At the very least, the extra O2 will help keep things fresh and prevent root rot, but I suspect that it will do more than just that.

Why not DWC?

Because this mod did not introduce any failure points.

If the power goes out, which happens around here, DWC could be a disaster, while my girls in their big pots just get a few more hours sleep, minus bubbles ;).

scaredeecat said:
looks great
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thank you scaredeecat!

:welcome:
 
re: 420 Consumer Reports - GrowLEDHydro Spectra 300w LED / Lowryder II by Setting Sun

Setting Sun said:
Why not DWC?

Because this mod did not introduce any failure points.

If the power goes out, which happens around here, DWC could be a disaster, while my girls in their big pots just get a few more hours sleep, minus bubbles ;).
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One sharp tack is Setting Sun!
:peace:
 
re: 420 Consumer Reports - GrowLEDHydro Spectra 300w LED / Lowryder II by Setting Sun

WONDER what would happen if you stuck couple of thos airstones into the soil??:reading420magazine:
 
re: 420 Consumer Reports - GrowLEDHydro Spectra 300w LED / Lowryder II by Setting Sun

It wouldn't work and might even be detrimental. Roots can't absorb oxygen in gaseous form, they draw the molecule from H2O in fluid form through the roots.

Adding air directly to the soil could dry the roots out and/or prevent uptake of nutrients.

It would be better to use the air stone to thoroughly oxygenate the water before watering the plant with it.
 
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