Xlr8's Quest For The Best - 2012

Mr. Krip said:
GG7, you should try some of the CS on one of your Harlequin females and collect the pollen for breeding. We'll all feel bad for you having all those feminized seeds when you like the males so much! :)
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Hah!! :)

Well...If I don't get a proper Harlequin male from the next batch of seeds, and if this CS project works out with my GDP, I might just have to do the CS treatment to a Harlequin female and save the pollen as you suggest! ;)

I'm really curious to see what a Harlequin/GDP cross would be like! :cheertwo:
 
Hello x !!!!

I'm very late and totally off topic , but i NEED to ask mostly "for OUR information" ... lol

I see you refered to steveHman and come in my mind something that had posted, long time ago..
Unfortunately, I'm not able to find it and I have searched all his posts carefully, one by one !!
No luck !!! :(
Actually to be real honest (even if I searched) I think he had sent this as a pm, to someone ...
Im talking about a diagram of using a CHILLER with multiple reservoirs !!!

Is not that I need it (no point in an ebb & flow system), but I was surfing lately and I stubbed at a post asking for that and this will be very helpfull, for some other ppl.

Then after few hours of hard google search (I think), I didn't come up with a presise diagram .
Maybe x, you were the person Steve had pm you this ? I might remember wrong , forgive me for this ...

Just for our info as I said , it's worth to have it, in our library ... Just in case ...

Sorry if I hijack your thread x, it won't happen again, I promise !!!
 
Goldengoose7 said:
My pleasure XL!

I hear ya about the cost! At least M.O.N. is somewhat reasonable at $40.00 for 6 seeds. Wiz sent me a link to Herbies today which sells Ken's GDP and I was shocked at the prices! $111.00 US for 10 seeds not including postage! :thedoubletake:

I had hoped for a Harlequin male out of my grow this year, but I ended up with all females! Most folks would have been very pleased with that 100% female result, but I had been counting on at least one male so I could cross it with my GDP and my Blue Cheese. Now that I see what a killer strain their Harlequin GDB is, I really want a male plant to use for crossing! I've got another pack of Harlequin seeds standing by for the next time I decide to do a grow, and hopefully I get a male out of that lot.

I really hope that you can get some of that and their Blue Cheese in the future! I have no doubt that you could come up with something special with those quality genetics to build on! :)
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At some point I'll definitely add a CBD plant to what I'm doing - I am hoping this can be an X-mas gift, but who knows. :) Blue Cheese definitely would be a nice one to add to the mix. It's pretty crazy how expensive seeds are, huh? But, if they are viable, and you know how to clone, that $10 a seed doesn't seem so bad in that sense... Adds up fast, though!

Thanks again for the ideas - definitely agree that those would be good to try when I can... :thankyou:
 
Xlr8 said:
First of all, :thankyou: TG :)

I think that was a typo - did you mean God Bud? I'll have to look into that one, thanks! Oh, and glad to have you subbed. :thumb:
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Yes, sorry about that. It's called God Bud. I'm on my iPhone. Fat fingers.
 
Propa Gator said:
I'd be cutting new plants off those mamas like a madman. As I stand, I'll be acquiring Harlequin as soon as I get over my hissy fit at the price. And it's non-recreational value... except that live old people have more fun than dead ones. If your religion has you thinking otherwise, fine but what's your hurry?

Read this: Scientists Find Cannabis Compound Stops Metastasis In Aggressive Cancers
then go watch Run From The Cure- The Rick Simpson Story again
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Totally agree - and great links Propa. :thumb:
 
Billy420 said:
Hello x !!!!

I'm very late and totally off topic , but i NEED to ask mostly "for OUR information" ... lol

I see you refered to steveHman and come in my mind something that had posted, long time ago..
Unfortunately, I'm not able to find it and I have searched all his posts carefully, one by one !!
No luck !!! :(
Actually to be real honest (even if I searched) I think he had sent this as a pm, to someone ...
Im talking about a diagram of using a CHILLER with multiple reservoirs !!!

Is not that I need it (no point in an ebb & flow system), but I was surfing lately and I stubbed at a post asking for that and this will be very helpfull, for some other ppl.

Then after few hours of hard google search (I think), I didn't come up with a presise diagram .
Maybe x, you were the person Steve had pm you this ? I might remember wrong , forgive me for this ...

Just for our info as I said , it's worth to have it, in our library ... Just in case ...

Sorry if I hijack your thread x, it won't happen again, I promise !!!
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Hi Billy -

Sorry, but I don't recall that. I don't currently run a chiller (though I might go that way in the future).

I have seen solutions for running multiple reservoirs with one chiller. I think typically it involves running a coil into one of (maybe both?) the reservoirs that chilled water runs through. Check out hydroinnov@tions.com perhaps (replace the @ with an "a"). If I remember correctly, they have some solutions for this problem. Though, you may be able to DIY something too...

While you are at that website (if you go there) check out the FAQ section and the rest of the website too, if you have a moment. There are some pretty cool ways you can use chilled water for cooling purposes, etc. I really don't know much about the company, but the website was helpful and they seem to carry a lot of products/solutions for using chilled water.

Don't ever worry about highjacking the thread here - it's all good brother! :)
 
TG40 said:
Yes, sorry about that. It's called God Bud. I'm on my iPhone. Fat fingers.
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Hey TG - No worries, that happens to me ALL the time. I go crazy trying to find all the errors from my own large digits. I've heard good things about God Bud before, so I'll definitely look into it. Really appreciate the tip! :)
 
Update - 49 days Bloom (Completion of 7 weeks since light period reduction)

Well, things are still looking good I think. Deadhead Ripper looks like it'll be done before the others, but I'm not certain either. It's sure starting to look close - maybe another week, perhaps 2? I think the Jack the Ripper and OG Ripper look like about 2 weeks at least yet.

Last night I had a few branches laying down on the job due to the weight of the buds pulling them down. Not complaining as there are worse problems, but it took a while to wrangle them all back together. I've been defoliating here and there as fan leaves appear to get in the way, and removed about a dozen or so last night as well.

Some of the buds on the Deadhead Ripper are so frosty you can barely see the green underneath the trichomes. It's such a trip how full of resins it is - just a freak in that sense. Like the Deadhead OG mom in the lineage, it has big fat calyx's too - they look almost seeded even when they aren't. Makes for some really pretty buds and some knock out bud to put in the vape.

I "sampled" a couple of buds of each of the unique crosses. The OG Ripper was very lemony, maybe a hint of lemon pinesol. The Deadhead Ripper was quite "Chemdog" tasting like the Deadhead OG, but with a little more of a "musk" or "sandlewood" taste that really improves the flavor a little. That one little subtle difference might be exactly the flavor improvement that makes this a winner. I was really pleased with both, especially for quick-dried buds. The highs were creepers. Unlike the JTR which feels like you got nothing, then 5-10 minutes later... WHAM. These are a gradual creep that just keeps ramping up. Both crosses had a similar "high" very reminiscent of both OG Kush and Jack the Ripper.

The OG Ripper is getting some slight purpling on the buds and sugar leaves, very much like the OG Kush part of it's lineage did at this stage. Will make for some pretty buds!

I tried to take the pics before lights came on, but was a little late so didn't get many pics in the tent that turned out well. Hence, why there is only one of the Deadhead Ripper... I'll take some more in a few days perhaps. Some of the JTR pics I took by removing the plant from the tent to avoid the funky light situation.

OG Ripper
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OG Ripper
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OG Ripper (light is funky as the lights were just turning on)
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Jack the Ripper
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Jack the Ripper
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Jack the Ripper
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Jack the Ripper
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Jack the Ripper
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Deadhead Ripper
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Looking like a white christmas mate ;)
 
i'd say 22inches tall and 16 wide?

from bottom of pot

actually i'll go 26in tall
 
Very nice XL!

Trimmer gummer uppers for sure! LOL!
 
Xlr8 said:
At some point I'll definitely add a CBD plant to what I'm doing - I am hoping this can be an X-mas gift, but who knows. :) Blue Cheese definitely would be a nice one to add to the mix. It's pretty crazy how expensive seeds are, huh? But, if they are viable, and you know how to clone, that $10 a seed doesn't seem so bad in that sense... Adds up fast, though!

Thanks again for the ideas - definitely agree that those would be good to try when I can... :thankyou:
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You're right in that if you look at the long term you can get your money back eventually through cloning, but I still wish that seed prices were not so freaking high! I understand that everyone needs to make their money back and stay in business, but MMJ is supposed to be a not for profit undertaking, so I can't help but question these outrageous prices being charged for so few seeds!

We both know that a single plant properly pollenated can produce hundreds of seeds in a single season, and if you have a greenhouse full you can easily end up with tens of thousands. So why not charge more reasonable prices and allow more folks on fixed incomes to be able to afford these quality strains? I believe that in the long run, these seed companies would probably make just as much $$ or more over time selling to a larger percentage of the MMJ community.

It just makes me question a lot of the motivation behind some of these so called MMJ based seed banks. $111.00 for 10 seeds is just a bit much, even for a strain as good as the genuine GDP.
 
Goldengoose7 said:
You're right in that if you look at the long term you can get your money back eventually through cloning, but I still wish that seed prices were not so freaking high! I understand that everyone needs to make their money back and stay in business, but MMJ is supposed to be a not for profit undertaking, so I can't help but question these outrageous prices being charged for so few seeds!

We both know that a single plant properly pollenated can produce hundreds of seeds in a single season, and if you have a greenhouse full you can easily end up with tens of thousands. So why not charge more reasonable prices and allow more folks on fixed incomes to be able to afford these quality strains? I believe that in the long run, these seed companies would probably make just as much $$ or more over time selling to a larger percentage of the MMJ community.

It just makes me question a lot of the motivation behind some of these so called MMJ based seed banks. $111.00 for 10 seeds is just a bit much, even for a strain and good as the genuine GDP.
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Seeds are expensive. i remember paying £237 for 5 pukka armageddon about 5 years ago ($500ish) only for 3 to hermie!!!

The trouble is the seed producers in europe do operate for profit and if a bank in states is sourcing from the likes of greenhouse seed then they'll have to pay their rates and pass on any extra costs to the consumer. What bugs me is that seeds, arent difficult to produce and one plant can produce many many seeds. so why the price so high? I understand paying a premium for the rarer breeds but seed companies are raking it in at the moment.
 
just like oil just because one country can drill for next to nothing there is a market price.
sure seeds are easy to make but not the varieties so you are at the mercy of the distibutor and you have to trust that what you order will be as said. I wish I could have how evermany different strains to make seeds but thats a ludicrous thought and I know you all have your favs so if you want more your going to have to pay the price at least the first time......damnit
 
what annoys me thoughh is the fact seed producers are trying to do away with regular seed and just produced fem seeds so its harder to breed them. Not impossible but still thats not the point.
 
Cultivator, many growers like me have demanded fem seed only. I don't want to waste time & space growing males that may contaminate my crop. I find seed to be a necessary, expensive evil and use cuttings to produce. One seed gives me the genetics. Let pros do the breeding, and others formulate fertilizer. I save my worrying & work quotient trying to bend guitar strings accurately. And playing RTS video games :)
 
Propa Gator said:
Cultivator, many growers like me have demanded fem seed only. I don't want to waste time & space growing males that may contaminate my crop. I find seed to be a necessary, expensive evil and use cuttings to produce. One seed gives me the genetics. Let pros do the breeding, and others formulate fertilizer. I save my worrying & work quotient trying to bend guitar strings accurately. And playing RTS video games :)
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LOL agreed! but there are the heirlooms. just like tomatos or other fruit that will fade if you cant breed the original.
yeah I know that we can guarenty a quality plant almost evrytime but there will always be a loss somewhere in the mix.
so it is nice to have the option to carry on the family name:)
 
hey im a man who likes his moms, but to keep the breeds alive u need those males. Otherwise we end up with interbred mutants. I have mothers over 4 years old and they from femmed seed. i dont disagree that fem seed arent practical for 95% of growers but the option should be there. Hermying plants for seed isnt the way forward as it waters down genes and people do like to grow from seed. not everyone is comfortable taking cuttings like some of us.
 
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