Wow, and you're like 12-14" away.. I'm very interested 
in this so can't wait to see them pics.
in this so can't wait to see them pics.
Xlr8's "Flo N Gro" Hydro Multiple Strains 2011
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Hey, Bro! Sorry to hear about the bleaching. I don't think I posted any info or pics, at the time, but, on my first grow I had the same issue with no more room to raise the lights. So, what I did was to make a new light hanger (it was for the 180w UFO) out of a few pieces of chain. It let me raise the lights up to another 6" or so, in about 1/2" increments and worked like a charm. I don't know if you can replace the exisiting light hangars you have, but just a thought!
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Hey, Bro! Sorry to hear about the bleaching. I don't think I posted any info or pics, at the time, but, on my first grow I had the same issue with no more room to raise the lights. So, what I did was to make a new light hanger (it was for the 180w UFO) out of a few pieces of chain. It let me raise the lights up to another 6" or so, in about 1/2" increments and worked like a charm. I don't know if you can replace the exisiting light hangars you have, but just a thought!
Hey Mr. Krip - Already did it, but good idea. Thanks for the suggestion!
Sisco - It's really not looking like it's affecting the buds at all yet - just some loss of color from some of the fan leaves. It's the only thing I can think of since the leaves aren't losing any color on the tops that aren't in the middle...
Spike69
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looking great buddy-as usual.
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Picture Update October 25th - Day 33 Bloom:
Not much new to report - still looking nice and healthy. The Lavender is really building some impressive buds. Shoot, they all are, but she's got a couple of meaty tops going. It's really more even in there than it looks in the photos - I am okay with a bit more height on the outer edges, too.
Group Shot
I tried to get a picture that captured a little yellowing on some of the leaves near the middle of the canopy...
Nice Lavender bud
Not much new to report - still looking nice and healthy. The Lavender is really building some impressive buds. Shoot, they all are, but she's got a couple of meaty tops going. It's really more even in there than it looks in the photos - I am okay with a bit more height on the outer edges, too.
Group Shot
I tried to get a picture that captured a little yellowing on some of the leaves near the middle of the canopy...
Nice Lavender bud
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Argh, I immediately went to next page right after posting photos, so I'm bumping the post. No sense in posting pictures just to bump 'em right off the page next post! 
Picture Update October 25th - Day 33 Bloom:
Not much new to report - still looking nice and healthy. The Lavender is really building some impressive buds. Shoot, they all are, but she's got a couple of meaty tops going. It's really more even in there than it looks in the photos - I am okay with a bit more height on the outer edges, too.
Group Shot
I tried to get a picture that captured a little yellowing on some of the leaves near the middle of the canopy...
Nice Lavender bud
naphtali5725
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XL, some of the yellowing may just be the normal yellowing that may take place during flower phase... have you checked it against a picture chart of known deficiencies?
kind regards,
kind regards,
OG13
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I think they look great X, keep it up.
Looking for the bleaching..... looking for the bleaching...where the heck is the bleaching! All looks good (real good) to me.
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Thanks guys. I'm really not too concerned with the lighter leaves - not too big of a deal. The only reason I think it's the lighting somehow is that it's all in the "middle" section of the canopy, affecting 3 of the plants - but only on tops in the middle. All 3 have tops off to the sides, too, but none of them have - what looks like bleaching to me. Doesn't matter - I'm not worried about it anyway, and they don't look too bad or worse for wear!
Hey got it looking good Dude. If that yellowing keeps up maybe alittle ebson salt to the water? It worked for mine and the plants won't bitch about the extra mag you throw at them. I think it was like a tblespoon per gallon. Plants colors change alot with minor deficiencies. If it get worse I know you will be digging in alittle deeper on researching.
Looks great and hope it continues. Keepem Green
Looks great and hope it continues. Keepem Green
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Thanks man, that's a great suggestion. I actually just gave them a larger dose of a Cal/Mag+ additive that Blue Planet formulated, just in case. I was actually on a pretty conservative dose, so it can't hurt I don't think - especially seeing that I'm using RO water. It really does seem like some sort of "light" stress to me, but who knows. I'm not one to freak out anymore over a few yellowish leaves - nothing else is outta whack, so I'm just not seeing any need to worry. Thanks for dropping by my friend!
What's the ph?
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It's ranged primarily between 5.5 and 5.7. I'm actually having a hard time keeping it up right now, it wants to keep settling on 5.5 - good but I'd like a little more fluctuation. I'm fully confident in my calibration. I check it weekly and do a 3 point calibration. Should be right on. I'm not too worried, but appreciate any thoughts or ideas if you think I should be more worried.
No, I don't think you should be worried. I was just wondering what it was.
Picture Update October 25th - Day 33 Bloom:
Not much new to report - still looking nice and healthy. The Lavender is really building some impressive buds. Shoot, they all are, but she's got a couple of meaty tops going. It's really more even in there than it looks in the photos - I am okay with a bit more height on the outer edges, too.
Group Shot
Not to be biased, or anything, and not ignoring the others, I just have to comment on this...
Look at Lucy standing tall and proud back there! The picture of health, I tell ya! And those buds! I think I shall fall on the floor now. [thunk]
naphtali5725
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awesome bro, keep up the great updates 
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Grow Update October 27th - Day 35 Bloom:
I didn't get a chance to look the plants over since early yesterday morning, and this morning I have a few burnt looking tips, specifically on the tops near the middle again. Still not real worried, they're all healthy, but I thought I'd expand on my thinking and brain-dump here a bit.
Heat was also up to 82f, and it had been running more at 78-79f. I noticed the past few days it had crept to 80f a couple of times, but 82 is new. To go along with it, my RH went from it's steady 40% to about 36%. A bit low, frankly, but not too concerning mid-flower. Contrary to what some believe, RH can get too low in flower.
I think the changing seasons is in play with the temps and humidity. In the summer, I can actually pump AC in there when needed, and in the winter it usually stays much cooler in the basement where things are, but in the fall -- no AC, and basement isn't as cool as in the winter - it also gets dryer. I do have good air movement, and it's cooler at the floor level (mid 70's) just a bit warmer/dryer than I'd like up high.
It's minor, but it is heat/dryness/intense light stressing of some sort I'm sure (the leaves affected near the middle of the canopy). All of the leaves at the secondary level look fine, and none of the buds seems adversely affected. I'm going to see what I can do about getting the temps to maintain below 80 by tweaking some of the ambient stuff. I want to maintain <80f, 40% RH if possible.
There is always a trickle down effect when environment gets out of whack even the slightest amount. The plants in the Flo N Gro also drank more water as a result, spiking up the PPM's and dropping the PH level in the nutrient reservoir. I'm on top of all this, so I'm not worried, but in one day the PPM's went up from about 1350, to 1450. The PH went from 5.7 last night to 5.5 this morning, and there was a good 1-2 gallons of water gone from the reservoir. All of those results are still in the okay zone for me, but it's good that I'm watching them, as they are getting borderline, and I'm sure this has lead to some heat/light/dryness stressing near the middle/top of the canopy. Yes, I am a bit of a perfectionist -- not perfect mind you, but never fully satisfied with anything short of my goal.
The plan today is to:
Again, nothing has me worried, but I wanted to share my plan on addressing the slight change in my environmental conditions and the impact those changes have had/will have. Much of this is about being preventative so that these minor issues stop, versus becoming more pronounced. A lot of what is going on with some minor leaf yellowing is just natural for this stage of the grow, anyway, so I'm just focusing on good environmental conditions and good hydro practice (flushing) as those are the things I can control.
Oh, and Holy cow are there some nice looking buds in there. The plants are still really healthy, and the tops seem to swell noticeably even in the course of one day! I'm very happy with how things are going still, and the plants are too. I'm super stoked about what I think will be a pretty good harvest when all is said and done. I'm also very pleased with how nicely the Blue Planet nutes are working and how good the flower development is as a result.
I didn't get a chance to look the plants over since early yesterday morning, and this morning I have a few burnt looking tips, specifically on the tops near the middle again. Still not real worried, they're all healthy, but I thought I'd expand on my thinking and brain-dump here a bit.
Heat was also up to 82f, and it had been running more at 78-79f. I noticed the past few days it had crept to 80f a couple of times, but 82 is new. To go along with it, my RH went from it's steady 40% to about 36%. A bit low, frankly, but not too concerning mid-flower. Contrary to what some believe, RH can get too low in flower.
I think the changing seasons is in play with the temps and humidity. In the summer, I can actually pump AC in there when needed, and in the winter it usually stays much cooler in the basement where things are, but in the fall -- no AC, and basement isn't as cool as in the winter - it also gets dryer. I do have good air movement, and it's cooler at the floor level (mid 70's) just a bit warmer/dryer than I'd like up high.
It's minor, but it is heat/dryness/intense light stressing of some sort I'm sure (the leaves affected near the middle of the canopy). All of the leaves at the secondary level look fine, and none of the buds seems adversely affected. I'm going to see what I can do about getting the temps to maintain below 80 by tweaking some of the ambient stuff. I want to maintain <80f, 40% RH if possible.
There is always a trickle down effect when environment gets out of whack even the slightest amount. The plants in the Flo N Gro also drank more water as a result, spiking up the PPM's and dropping the PH level in the nutrient reservoir. I'm on top of all this, so I'm not worried, but in one day the PPM's went up from about 1350, to 1450. The PH went from 5.7 last night to 5.5 this morning, and there was a good 1-2 gallons of water gone from the reservoir. All of those results are still in the okay zone for me, but it's good that I'm watching them, as they are getting borderline, and I'm sure this has lead to some heat/light/dryness stressing near the middle/top of the canopy. Yes, I am a bit of a perfectionist -- not perfect mind you, but never fully satisfied with anything short of my goal.
The plan today is to:
- Reduce ambient temps to help bring temps down in the tent.
- Dial back the Dehumidifier to keep RH at 40% - 36% is a bit low, but not too bad.
- Top off the reservoir with an extra gallon or so of RO water to help buffer against PPM spikes if the plants take too much water as I work to slightly improve the environmental conditions.
- Flush - this is something I'm due for anyway, and it's not directly related to the environmental changes - just a good thing to do periodically, and it's due.
Again, nothing has me worried, but I wanted to share my plan on addressing the slight change in my environmental conditions and the impact those changes have had/will have. Much of this is about being preventative so that these minor issues stop, versus becoming more pronounced. A lot of what is going on with some minor leaf yellowing is just natural for this stage of the grow, anyway, so I'm just focusing on good environmental conditions and good hydro practice (flushing) as those are the things I can control.
Oh, and Holy cow are there some nice looking buds in there. The plants are still really healthy, and the tops seem to swell noticeably even in the course of one day! I'm very happy with how things are going still, and the plants are too. I'm super stoked about what I think will be a pretty good harvest when all is said and done. I'm also very pleased with how nicely the Blue Planet nutes are working and how good the flower development is as a result.
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Jandre2k3! I am really stoked about those Lucy's too, and they are really looking healthy as you mentioned. There are some more of them too that are more to the left of the canopy, but probably obstructed from view in most of the photos - I have her tops spread all across the back of the Canopy using string and twist-ties. There is a nice little nook carved out for her in that back right corner!I appreciate the kudos my friend - thanks again!