Never thought of that GG7
I will do just that...damn the things we don't know. So sorry about your cat We had three for 19 years....when they went it was awful for us too. Hope you quit soon. 
Xlr8's "Flo N Gro" Hydro Multiple Strains 2011
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Never thought of that GG7
I will do just that...damn the things we don't know. So sorry about your cat We had three for 19 years....when they went it was awful for us too. Hope you quit soon. 
Never thought of that GG7
No problem OMM!
In a pinch you can buy American Spirit brand premade. Those are additive free and should provide the same benefit in terms of not having the extra addictive chemicals added to the tobacco. That is what I am smoking right now, cause I was trying NOT to "commit" to ordering a can and ZigZag tubes. I still have my Premier cig making machine in the closet, but I was trying to refrain from jumping back in with both feet.
Still... The $6.99 a pack I am paying for those AS cigs at the local Mom and Pop market is KILLING ME! I could have bought TWO cans of my old brand of tobacco by now which makes a carton each for $20.00 a can!
P.S. Thanks for you sympathy over Kimba. It has been a full week now and I still feel just as torn up about it as I did a week ago! THis is going to be a VERY LONG road to any semblance of normalcy around here. He was such a HUGE part of our daily lives, and everywhere we look we are reminded of him.
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GG7, my friend - consider this:
The tobacco thing is something you are always addicted to. Me too. It's evil stuff generally speaking and it's really bad for you, but you know this as well.
It waits for a chink in your armor to work it's way into your life again - like a death in the family, your girl leaving you, or yes a pet passing on.
It starts with one, then it's a pack, etc. Before you know it, you think -- how did I get to this point where I'm full on smoking again? It was like that with me and those tobacco pouches - snuff. Same thing. The worst for me is driving - I always get the nicotine urge....
Now -go throw the cigarettes away, rolled, American Spirit or otherwise. You made it through the hell that is quitting once, DON'T start again. Don't dig out the roller and make your own. Crush up the AS and say "whew". Or -- I know you will regret not doing so earlier. Right?
I hate being lectured too, and I'm not trying to lecture. BUT, I have been there and I struggle with it - I think I'm over the hump for now. I'm only doing this because I see myself in you - rationalizing reasons to start nicotine again. I started last time when my Uncle passed. That's how it happens for me. Almost always!
Okay, end of rant.
I wouldn't have spent the time ranting, though, if I didn't see a kind soul and a good person behind your posts, and I hope you don't continue to slide (like I have in the past). Besides, everybody around here is quitting it seems like, and you'll have a ton of support! It's okay to tell me to f*ck off, but I promise it's coming from a good place.
Kimba. I'm so sorry you lost your close friend and gardening partner. She was clearly a special part of your family, and it's tough losing a friend.
Long live GoldenGoose7.
The tobacco thing is something you are always addicted to. Me too. It's evil stuff generally speaking and it's really bad for you, but you know this as well.
It waits for a chink in your armor to work it's way into your life again - like a death in the family, your girl leaving you, or yes a pet passing on.
It starts with one, then it's a pack, etc. Before you know it, you think -- how did I get to this point where I'm full on smoking again? It was like that with me and those tobacco pouches - snuff. Same thing. The worst for me is driving - I always get the nicotine urge....
Now -go throw the cigarettes away, rolled, American Spirit or otherwise. You made it through the hell that is quitting once, DON'T start again. Don't dig out the roller and make your own. Crush up the AS and say "whew". Or -- I know you will regret not doing so earlier. Right?
I hate being lectured too, and I'm not trying to lecture. BUT, I have been there and I struggle with it - I think I'm over the hump for now. I'm only doing this because I see myself in you - rationalizing reasons to start nicotine again. I started last time when my Uncle passed. That's how it happens for me. Almost always!
Okay, end of rant.
I wouldn't have spent the time ranting, though, if I didn't see a kind soul and a good person behind your posts, and I hope you don't continue to slide (like I have in the past). Besides, everybody around here is quitting it seems like, and you'll have a ton of support! It's okay to tell me to f*ck off, but I promise it's coming from a good place.
Kimba. I'm so sorry you lost your close friend and gardening partner. She was clearly a special part of your family, and it's tough losing a friend. Long live GoldenGoose7.
GG7, my friend - consider this:
The tobacco thing is something you are always addicted to. Me too. It's evil stuff generally speaking and it's really bad for you, but you know this as well.
It waits for a chink in your armor to work it's way into your life again - like a death in the family, your girl leaving you, or yes a pet passing on.
It starts with one, then it's a pack, etc. Before you know it, you think -- how did I get to this point where I'm full on smoking again? It was like that with me and those tobacco pouches - snuff. Same thing. The worst for me is driving - I always get the nicotine urge....
Now -go throw the cigarettes away, rolled, American Spirit or otherwise. You made it through the hell that is quitting once, DON'T start again. Don't dig out the roller and make your own. Crush up the AS and say "whew". Or -- I know you will regret not doing so earlier. Right?
I hate being lectured too, and I'm not trying to lecture. BUT, I have been there and I struggle with it - I think I'm over the hump for now. I'm only doing this because I see myself in you - rationalizing reasons to start nicotine again. I started last time when my Uncle passed. That's how it happens for me. Almost always!
Okay, end of rant.
I wouldn't have spent the time ranting, though, if I didn't see a kind soul and a good person behind your posts, and I hope you don't continue to slide (like I have in the past). Besides, everybody around here is quitting it seems like, and you'll have a ton of support! It's okay to tell me to f*ck off, but I promise it's coming from a good place.
Long live GoldenGoose7.
Thanks XL! I appreciate what you are trying to do, and it means a lot!
I don't think a loss of a person or an animal has ever hit me as hard or as deeply as the loss of our Kimba Boy. Animals have a way or worming their way into our hearts so easily, and he was of course no exception.
But the bond I had with this animal went far beyond that. I always said that Kimba was my lifeline to the positive. His love of life and nature was truly an inspiration, and he could always make me smile when I was feeling blue about my own problems and my chronic pain.
I loved to just sit out on the front porch and watch him sitting on the big rock in our front yard. Like a little lion surveying his territory. He would often glace over in my direction, and all I needed to do was smile at him and he would come running and "plop" down onto his back and start rolling around on the ground making his loud purring noise. He loved to have his belly rubbed and would stretch his arms out into the air like he was trying to touch the sky!
Adorable was hardly the word for it! Everyone who witnessed this would let out a chuckle when Kimba would run up to them, slide onto his side and then onto his back and do his little "Roly Poly" dance as we would call it.
I hear ya about the smoking, but now is not the time to be worrying about that. It is a cold comfort, but a comfort none the less during a time of such deep sorrow. Heck! I didn't even water the plants yesterday cause I just couldn't bring myself to go out there and face all the memories. Last night we did end up watching a slide show I had prepared on his birthday showing all the great photos of him from the time he was a baby. Yesterday was day 8 since he disappeared, so our remaining hopes for a miracle had all but faded. That made yesterday one of the hardest days emotionally since this all started.
I just ordered a memorial statue of a cat curled up contently sleeping. It looked a lot like him, and we plan to build a little memorial to him out in our front yard next to that big rock he so loved to lay on every afternoon.
Don't worry my friend. I will quit again. I've done it before and I will do it again, just not right now.
Take care and thanks for listening!
Sorry to be such a downer on your journal, but sharing my feelings with you, and the rest of our extended family here really does help to cope with the loss and move on.
God bless my little Kimba Boy!
Cheers.
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It's all good! 
I'm glad you are able to quit like that, GG7. It's not that easy for me, but I sure wish it was! Kimba must have really been an important part of your life. Sorry again for the loss of your little buddy. I really can relate. My heart goes out to you man. Glad you didn't take that the wrong way - I was trying to help 'cuz it's so damned tough for me to quit stuff like that.
Tare care,
X
I'm glad you are able to quit like that, GG7. It's not that easy for me, but I sure wish it was! Kimba must have really been an important part of your life. Sorry again for the loss of your little buddy. I really can relate. My heart goes out to you man. Glad you didn't take that the wrong way - I was trying to help 'cuz it's so damned tough for me to quit stuff like that.
Tare care,
X
It's all good!
I'm glad you are able to quit like that, GG7. It's not that easy for me, but I sure wish it was! Kimba must have really been an important part of your life. Sorry again for the loss of your little buddy. I really can relate. My heart goes out to you man. Glad you didn't take that the wrong way - I was trying to help 'cuz it's so damned tough for me to quit stuff like that.
Tare care,
X
The key is additive free tobacco!
Night and day difference! I know cause I quit off Camels twice and went through hell just like you! Bought roll your own first out of cost savings which is HUGE, but when I quit off those the first time, it was a lot easier.
I also smoke a pipe sometimes, so I just used that for the first week or so, (don't inhale that stuff! It'll kill ya!) and then just went cold turkey, and it wasn't that bad. Went two whole years without a cig! I quit right around the time that Kimba came into our lives.
Your not exaggerating when you say how special my bond with Kimba was. I'm frankly surprised myself at how hard this has hit me. If I had known that his loss would be this painful, I would have never let him out after dark! I kick myself that we got lax on enforcing the "In at Sundown" rule that we kept him on until this last spring.
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Grow Update October 3rd - Day 11 Bloom:
I always stress at this point of the grow, 'cuz they're at that stage where they grow inches every day, and it just looks like a short matter of time before the roof blows off.
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Last night I switched the "redder" MH bulb that I'd left in over the taller plants to a HPS (I switched to HPS on the side where the plants were shorter a few days ago). I just felt like this is the point I want HPS so I can really get flowering in gear a bit.
My PPM's for the Flo N Gro were up to 1420 during the last reservoir change (Oakton .7 conversion). After a day and a half, they are down to 1260 after a top-off, so they're gulping it down pretty good right now. I'm losing about a gallon every two days or so from the reservoir (rough estimate). The PH is staying pretty stable at this PPM level and mix - right at about 5.8.
Looks like all girls in the tent unless one hermies. The only non-fem seed, the Magic Bud, is a girl. Pistils poppin' all over. I was hoping for a boy, so I could isolate him and collect some pollen, but so be it. That would have allowed me to have some fun making seeds, and free up some space in the tent. I like the strain too much to kill it, and it's usually a good producer, so she stays for now. I'm going to have to do some defoliation in a week or so as it's getting pretty jungle-like in there.
Here's what I'm giving the plants in the Flo N grow right now (20 gallon res):
Blue Planet Nutrients 3 part:
210ml grow
140ml micro
300ml bloom
Supplements:
40ml BPN Cal Mag
50ml Silica
4ml BPN root zone
40ml BPN "Liquid Blue" Bloom booster
Overall temp avg. ~77f
RH ~50%
PH 5.8 (holding there pretty steady)
PPM's 1420 (at res. change)
Chocolope - PPM's 1200, PH pretty steady at 5.8-5.9, getting a proportionate diet to the Flo N Gro plants, but dialed down a bit for her smaller stature. She's still looking healthy again overall, but so slooooww to develop. She's had some shock and really shouldn't have been part of this grow, but I'll see where she takes me.
Strains -- Top row: Magic Bud, Lavender, Lucy. Bottom row: Chocolope (in bucket), Skywalker, Skywalker, Lucy
With HPS lights still on:
Teeny little Chocolope
Right after lights off - where's the floor?
I always stress at this point of the grow, 'cuz they're at that stage where they grow inches every day, and it just looks like a short matter of time before the roof blows off.
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Last night I switched the "redder" MH bulb that I'd left in over the taller plants to a HPS (I switched to HPS on the side where the plants were shorter a few days ago). I just felt like this is the point I want HPS so I can really get flowering in gear a bit.
My PPM's for the Flo N Gro were up to 1420 during the last reservoir change (Oakton .7 conversion). After a day and a half, they are down to 1260 after a top-off, so they're gulping it down pretty good right now. I'm losing about a gallon every two days or so from the reservoir (rough estimate). The PH is staying pretty stable at this PPM level and mix - right at about 5.8.
Looks like all girls in the tent unless one hermies. The only non-fem seed, the Magic Bud, is a girl. Pistils poppin' all over. I was hoping for a boy, so I could isolate him and collect some pollen, but so be it. That would have allowed me to have some fun making seeds, and free up some space in the tent. I like the strain too much to kill it, and it's usually a good producer, so she stays for now. I'm going to have to do some defoliation in a week or so as it's getting pretty jungle-like in there.
Here's what I'm giving the plants in the Flo N grow right now (20 gallon res):
Blue Planet Nutrients 3 part:
210ml grow
140ml micro
300ml bloom
Supplements:
40ml BPN Cal Mag
50ml Silica
4ml BPN root zone
40ml BPN "Liquid Blue" Bloom booster
Overall temp avg. ~77f
RH ~50%
PH 5.8 (holding there pretty steady)
PPM's 1420 (at res. change)
Chocolope - PPM's 1200, PH pretty steady at 5.8-5.9, getting a proportionate diet to the Flo N Gro plants, but dialed down a bit for her smaller stature. She's still looking healthy again overall, but so slooooww to develop. She's had some shock and really shouldn't have been part of this grow, but I'll see where she takes me.
Strains -- Top row: Magic Bud, Lavender, Lucy. Bottom row: Chocolope (in bucket), Skywalker, Skywalker, Lucy
With HPS lights still on:
Teeny little Chocolope
Right after lights off - where's the floor?
Hey xlr8
That's one beautiful stuffed tent. The girls look great. I'm going to watch how you control them all. That was my big problem in my first tent grow as I'm sure you remember. It's strange saying this...but.....too bad you didn't get a boy.
That's one beautiful stuffed tent. The girls look great. I'm going to watch how you control them all. That was my big problem in my first tent grow as I'm sure you remember. It's strange saying this...but.....too bad you didn't get a boy.
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That is one crowded party X. Ready for some supercropping? You going to tie the screen to the tent supports?
Nice canopy, Bro! 
How long have they been in flower again? Two weeks?
How long have they been in flower again? Two weeks?
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Hi OG13 -
Yes, it's definitely getting crowded in there, and I'm having a problem with my health at the moment (slow recovery from recent surgeries) and it's all I can do to keep the nutes changed weekly. I can't bend worth a damn, and it's a bitch to get up and down. I'm a mess. Nothing life threatening, but a mess!
Consequently, I haven't been able to do any kind of LST, etc., which I would have liked to have been doing all along. I even bought a bunch of clips to use, but couldn't take the bending and kneeling. My wife helps some with things, but I can't push that either as she was encouraging me to take a break and not grow anything until my health was better. Creates a small dilemma if I need or ask for too much help! She's a wonderful woman, who is supportive of my hobbies - growing, and 420mag.
I wish I had a scrog screen and felt up to the bending and tucking. That would really be a great way to maximize the space in a tent like this.
Gonna have to wing it as I go along I think. I should have stuck to my original plan, which was 4 plants.
Having said that, it will be getting thinner in there.... See upcoming post!
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Hey xlr8
That's one beautiful stuffed tent. The girls look great. I'm going to watch how you control them all. That was my big problem in my first tent grow as I'm sure you remember. It's strange saying this...but.....too bad you didn't get a boy.
Hi OMM!
Haha - that does sound strange. I didn't get a boy, but it looks like one of the Skywalkers is jealous and wants to be a boy. I'm pretty sure she's starting to show nanners by the looks of it, in addition to her lady parts.
I think I'm ready to be done with Dutch Passion genetics, at least related to their Blueberry. The Blueberry I grew a couple of grows ago hermied, and Skywalker is a strain with Blueberry in it as well. I've gathered from a few people now that their Blueberry has some issues, hermie traits being one of them. Through several grows, those would be the only 2 plants I've had hermie. So, unless my eyes are deceiving me, I'll have one less Skywalker in the tent.
And honestly, it's the sort of thing I'm more than prepared for with the extra plants in there, so it'll create a little space for the others that will make up for the loss.
Hope you're feeling better!
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Nice canopy, Bro!
How long have they been in flower again? Two weeks?
Hi Mr. Krip -
12 days so far. Hoping they get sick of growing upward soon. 2-3 inches a day last few days.
Hi Mr. Krip -
12 days so far. Hoping they get sick of growing upward soon. 2-3 inches a day last few days.
Yeah, I would guess they'd stop stretching in the next week, but, that could be another 1-2 feet at that rate!
Magic beans
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Looking good, X!
How far are you keeping the lights from them? Theyre 2 400s if I remember correctly right? You got fans on those bad boys?
How far are you keeping the lights from them? Theyre 2 400s if I remember correctly right? You got fans on those bad boys?
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Thanks buddy! I should have saved her for the next round, but was excited about trying a Sativa. She seems difficult to make happy - but she's still kicking and developing ever so slowly, so I'll leave her be.
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Hey MB! Yes, (2) 400s. I'm keeping 'em around 18" right now, which seems like as close as I dare get - the leaves start to look a little dry/unhappy if I let them get much closer. They have a really strong 400cfm fan pulling air through the hoods, and there is an oscillating fan in the tent as well, which keeps heat from settling at the top of the canopy. The hoods are actually cool to the touch, except at the glass.
I still have some room to move 'em up. Just not unlimited.
Hi OMM!
Haha - that does sound strange. I didn't get a boy, but it looks like one of the Skywalkers is jealous and wants to be a boy. I'm pretty sure she's starting to show nanners by the looks of it, in addition to her lady parts.
I think I'm ready to be done with Dutch Passion genetics, at least related to their Blueberry. The Blueberry I grew a couple of grows ago hermied, and Skywalker is a strain with Blueberry in it as well. I've gathered from a few people now that their Blueberry has some issues, hermie traits being one of them. Through several grows, those would be the only 2 plants I've had hermie. So, unless my eyes are deceiving me, I'll have one less Skywalker in the tent.
And honestly, it's the sort of thing I'm more than prepared for with the extra plants in there, so it'll create a little space for the others that will make up for the loss.
Hope you're feeling better!
Hi xlr8
THsea and I had a conversation about that very thing, Dutch Passion genetics. I have few more seeds from them and am afraid to grow them now.
A waste of a space in my garden.
At least that gives you a bit more space.
I'm feeling better my friend.....you don't sound too good Brother. Helpless feeling I know. All you can do is try. Good luck my friend.
I am doing my second dp blueberry grow. My first I did a few years ago and had no problems except for superstretch and they were a super knockout couchstone but they didn't taste much like blueberries. My newest dp blueberry grow has been bushmastered so stretch is nolonger a issue. When I tried cloning them a few years back the clones did tend to freak and/or hermed so I figured its not a very good cloner. I wasn't a big fan of their POG pot of gold. Me and my friend nicknamed it POS piece of shit. Besides their strengh of the blueberry I am not a big fan of Dutch Passion.