Woodsman's Northern Light #5 Grow

Good morning Woodsman,
Your plants are looking awesome and you are an awesome dad to your plants, that was a very good job finding the heat problem as fast as you did and reacting to it. Low 80's is not too warm for them but I would not let it get much warmer than that.
On my NL which is the exact same as yours for anybody who does not know yet and mine show sex on the 7th internode from the bottom and you will probably notice the white hairs before you see the pistils at least on mine that is how I found them.
I really don't know why there cant be something started for identifying different strains, I'm growing 3 different strains and the leaf structures are all different. Also if you think about it there are many varieties of lets say Maple trees and Oak trees, I know they're not weeds but each one of them are identifiable by leaf structure, barks, trunks, canopy shapes and different colors so why can't MJ be done?

my box temp is usually 77 to 80 degrees(during lights on) and seems to be a good temperature. About the identification of cannabis plants based on the leaf and stem structure I am very curious to find info on that. To be able to tell the difference of plant types based on looks would be an amazing ability! Thats pro level stuff! lol. It could help me though because the past grows I had were all bagseed and all of them failed. The last one survived only to be male. Now I've got a better setup (not that much better) and I have some legitimate Northern Lights seeds. Which reminds me does any one know how to make a link for grow journals in their sig? Any way woodsman excellent grow I hope they are all females. This grow and a few others are my favorites right now. Pretty soon we could be northern lights buddies, lol.
 
Quote by BreakPoint:

"Man this pic looks just like yours, on p.13 of Jorge's MJ Horticulture...
cannabis Afghanica has "...distinctive , broad, dark-green leaflets and leaves. Dense branching and short internodes, most often with long leaf stems..."
it also says 'hash plant' is a classic example of c. afghanica"


Thanks Break, I'll be checking those references out and I'll let you know if there is a match, Thanks!

Well I'm waiting to see the results hope it's great for u friend

Thanks Love1Fear I really appreciate the encouragement
Nice find & recovery! :bravo:

Your girls (I have my fingers crossed for ya) are lookin' real nice Woodsman!

82 degrees isn't too warm at all IMHO. We shoot for 80 to low 80s ourselves and they are lovin' it.

This is a fun journal :nicethread:

Thanks Clowns for stopping in and for the nice words. My last grow with the Mazar, never got into the 80's at all. Of course I had only the 100w hps and later two 26w cfls. I think my 'high' temp is fine, it's my low temp that I would think is more of a concern at 62-63. That's what the house temp is upstairs at night.
Nice girl, c'mon!
:peace:

Hey Super always nice to hear from you!

I like your setup.

Thanks CadillacMike, please come by anytime!

Good morning Woodsman,
Your plants are looking awesome and you are an awesome dad to your plants, that was a very good job finding the heat problem as fast as you did and reacting to it. Low 80's is not too warm for them but I would not let it get much warmer than that.
On my NL which is the exact same as yours for anybody who does not know yet and mine show sex on the 7th internode from the bottom and you will probably notice the white hairs before you see the pistils at least on mine that is how I found them.
I really don't know why there cant be something started for identifying different strains, I'm growing 3 different strains and the leaf structures are all different. Also if you think about it there are many varieties of lets say Maple trees and Oak trees, I know they're not weeds but each one of them are identifiable by leaf structure, barks, trunks, canopy shapes and different colors so why can't MJ be done?

About the sexing:
Really still nothing definite this morning, but I did not get an up and close look, later today I will be up there again with a fine tuned eyeball! I think that someone up there is in charge of confusing growers when it concerns the early detection of plant sex!

Plant ID:
Like you said there are tree ID books insect ID books, bird ID books etc etc....I know we have some of them. I grew up looking at the bird and tree books years and years ago and as a young kid, I would not look in the insect book (hated bugs)!. You know the 'pocket' guides or like the Audubon society bird books.

With all the knowledge out there among the breeders, growers, authors etc etc , why no ID book on Cannabis Identification!
Haha you crack me up man I love reading your journal cuz i always get a good laugh :grinjoint: 82 ain't bad though man but 75-78 would be a lot better my plants chill at about 82-86 overnight when my closet door is closed and during the day with it open they are chillin at 75-78 with humidity of about 45% and they are just killin it in growth, a good way to do both of these if you don't have a good way to bring colder air in is to grab a bucket, some newspaper, and dry ice; wrap the dry ice in the newspaper put it in the bucket and put it in your tent:smokin: i've been told it also puts off CO2 however, i have never had the equipment to be able to tell if it does or not but i definitely put this method to use and it was quite effective in fact watch your temps if you try it out cuz they drop pretty quick:smokin2: But the ladies are lookin nice there Mr. Woods keep it up hope that info can help:bravo:

COmmj, thanks for the good words. I like to liven things up sometimes as do many of us that visit. It makes for a more relaxing atmosphere. I have a great suspicion that after indulging, I am more apt to 'say'' things than when I am 'not'. The easy banter that goes on here sometimes and in other threads is almost like it is in person when you sit around with smoking buddies and bullsh*t . Can't be serious all the time, right!

The temps you have are strange in that your dark temps are warmer than your day temps. Are you on an opposite schedule (your lights are on at night time and off at daylight)?

If I had extra space in there, I would add a heater to the grow during my dark hours.

my box temp is usually 77 to 80 degrees(during lights on) and seems to be a good temperature. About the identification of cannabis plants based on the leaf and stem structure I am very curious to find info on that. To be able to tell the difference of plant types based on looks would be an amazing ability! Thats pro level stuff! lol. It could help me though because the past grows I had were all bagseed and all of them failed. The last one survived only to be male. Now I've got a better setup (not that much better) and I have some legitimate Northern Lights seeds. Which reminds me does any one know how to make a link for grow journals in their sig? Any way woodsman excellent grow I hope they are all females. This grow and a few others are my favorites right now. Pretty soon we could be northern lights buddies, lol.

As far as a link in your signature to your grow check this out:How to Add Links to Signatures - 420 Magazine. Make sure you follow the directions to the 'T' and you will be alright. Remember that you will be able to review your signature before posting.

I just figured someone would've come up with an ID reference 'page', thread, or book by now!


:passitleft::thumb:
 
Wood....looks like we are in the same boat. Looking for sex that it is....lol. Anyhow, we do not have anything definitive yet, but we are keeping our fingers crossed and our eyes peeled. Good luck my man.
 
Wood....looks like we are in the same boat. Looking for sex that it is....lol. Anyhow, we do not have anything definitive yet, but we are keeping our fingers crossed and our eyes peeled. Good luck my man.

Thanks Hypo. Ya we are definitely in the same boat. I just came down from the grow and have some interesting photos. I'll be working on uploading those right now. Could take a half hour or so. Got quite a few.:thumb:
 
Below is a comparison of my 'mystery' plant #5 with a normal looking NL in plant #4. I will ID each plant in each of the comparison pics.

If any of you has a guess as to what the mystery plant is, I would love to have your opinion! All my plants are supposed to be NL#5 and are from the same package from the same Seed Co. Plant #5 is very different from the others though? Look at the pics of the mystery plant and a normal looking plant (#4) and compare the two. #4 is about the same size as #5 (mystery)



Mystery plant #5
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'Normal' plant #4
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First leaf comparison. I have a pic of one mature fan leaf from each of the plants. Note the end tips of the two leaves. The mystery plant is much different at the tip than #4. One is pointed and elongated and the other is not.

Mystery Plant
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Plant#4 Notice the spear-like tip
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Mystery Plant: A smaller leaf (older) from lower down on the plant. These smaller leaves show not only the same 'end tip' as the larger fan leaves, but also the 'teeth' are slightly rounder or 'softer' than the next pic of #4's smaller leaf.

Mystery Plant
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Plant#4
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Mystery Plant close up of same small leaf
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Plant#4 Notice the difference?
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Tell me now, are these two NL#5 phenoms or are they two completely different strains of Cannabis Indica. If the mystery plant is a different strain, does it look familiar to any of you?

Guesses are welcome and photos also if you have them. Expert analysis is always welcomed and I would like nothing better for someone to say "I've got (or had) the same looking plant and it is ..... strain! I've searched the net with no luck myself. BreakPoint mentioned above 'Hash Plant'?

This plant (mystery) has yet to show it's sex. I really hope that she is a she (showing no sign @ day 6 of flower). I would love to grow her alongside the other 'normal' NL#5 plants and compare their different characteristics as they mature and finally fatten up and bud and then to see the difference in smoke, taste and high!

:thankyou: :thumb: :passitleft:
 
Wood...I can tell you the leaves look very different to me. If they are supposed to be the same cultivar it is surprising to see such a difference. I can tell you that we have plants grown from the same pack of seeds that were supposed to be white widows that are COMPLETELY different types of plants....one looking sativa-like and one very indica-looking. Not saying that these are different plants because plants (and animals for that matter) have different phenotypes and this may be an acceptable difference and still be a Northern Lights plant.....just different looking. Maybe like you and your brother (if you have one) look totally different but have the same parents. Make sense?
 
I am hesitant about posting the following photos. I didn't want to draw your attention away from my earlier quest with the 'Mystery Plant'! Please don't forget about that, as these next pics are just trying to figure out if it's a male or not. That is not as important as my original mission above. In the end we have no control over the sex of our plants!


First photo is of my pride and joy, Plant #1. She is just a little over a month old (about 5 weeks) and six days since I went to 12/12. I have been encouraged by the fact that 'she' is not showing any sexual inclination whatsoever compared to plants #2 and #3 which are showing some 'suspicious' looking signs! My other two (the ones from the previous post above) are also not 'showing' and that is good also!


Plant #1
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The following are five pics (3 of plant#3 and 2 of plant #2). They are the only plants that are showing signs. I think they're males. Here are some different views. What do you think?

Plant#3
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Plant#3
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Plant#3
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Plant#2
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Plant#2
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Males? Let me know what you think.

I'll be waiting for all your suggestions and theories about the previous post and also this post.

:thankyou: :smokin2:
 
Wood....I am by no means an expert, but I would say that plant #3 looks like it might have a Y chromosome for sure. #2 is questionable. I hope I am wrong, but time will tell...right?
 
Wood....I am by no means an expert, but I would say that plant #3 looks like it might have a Y chromosome for sure. #2 is questionable. I hope I am wrong, but time will tell...right?

Thanks for piping in hypo, I think your correct and I have a feeling that both will turnout to be males.. Hopefully they are the only two!
 
For sure wood i got no leads on your strain problem however yes it does feel like we are just some smokin partners in a smoke sesh whenever i am on 420mag oh and my closet door just closes so i can sleep my lights are still on 24hr and veggin haha the temps are higher cuz the fans can't pull cold air in from the window good luck with the sexing
 
same as hypo, the first set looked male, 2nd a little hard to say but leaning toward male

oh, and no idea as to the different phenotype (or possible different strain?), sorry

Hey HD, Maybe tomorrow will bring a little more clarity into the picture. It's been great these last few days waiting with anticipation! Thanks for taking a look at the pics!

For sure wood i got no leads on your strain problem however yes it does feel like we are just some smokin partners in a smoke sesh whenever i am on 420mag oh and my closet door just closes so i can sleep my lights are still on 24hr and veggin haha the temps are higher cuz the fans can't pull cold air in from the window good luck with the sexing

Hello COmmj thank you for given them a look also.

Ya this place is a smokers and growers social club. Its just the wife and I out here and she doesn't partake too often. Your right, it's like having the guys over for a good smoke. It's great!

Here pass it around! :passitleft: :bigtoke:
 
What would be the reason or benefit not to go to 12/12 now? Having to grow in a small space ourselves we look to get to flowering as soon as possible. Your plants look fantastic in size and shape. My vote would be to shut down the lights for 36 hours and then bring them on starting 12/12.

+rep if I can. they look fantastic! :bravo:
I've always heard this, scooterclowns. Can you explain what the 36 hrs. of darkness, is supposed to do ?? Thanks !!:surf::peacetwo:
 
I have no clue about the strain difference, but the plants in the pics above might be male. I also read that males show signs of sex first (not sure if I'm right or not). If that is true then hopefully the others will be girls ya! Just a theory.
 
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